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to think it’s not really a spoiler if it’s already been on the telly

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Ellybellyboo Wed 01-Nov-17 11:31:19

My colleague and I have been at work since about 5am so decided to nip over to the staff canteen for coffee and bacon rolls.

We were sitting together at a table, minding our own business, nattering about last night’s Bake Off.

Another colleague came over to join us and as soon as she realised what we were talking about started ranting at us for ‘ruining the whole series’ for her and ‘thanks for the spoiler’

The winner was announced at 9:15pm last night, is it really reasonable to expect other people not to talk about it the next day, just in case someone hadn’t seen it yet?

We weren’t yelling across the office, we were having a quiet conversation

On Facebook last night I saw a friend having a row over spoilers with someone who had posted the winner’s name, after the programme had aired.

So, aibu to think it’s not really a spoiler after the TV programme has aired?

Redcrayons Wed 01-Nov-17 11:33:55

Agree. It's fair enough to say 'I haven't seen it so don't tell me what happens'. But if it's already been on then it's fair game.

PinkHeart5914 Wed 01-Nov-17 11:34:14

Well I wouldn’t tell someone who won something that was on tv just last night for example without asking if they’d seen it.

I’ve not seen last nights bake off yet as I had other things to do. I still don’t know who’s won and I won’t until I watch it tonight.

QueenofallIsee Wed 01-Nov-17 11:35:12

I really hate the fact that social media is so ubiquitous that you get spoilers like it or not, but i don't think that once a programme has aired you can expect everyone to check before they open their mouths!

so I think publishing on FB is a no-no (why do you need to anyway) but your colleague was mental to be ranting about your quiet chat!

MrsHathaway Wed 01-Nov-17 11:38:00

I think she overreacted.

But many people record things to watch later, especially if there's a clash. The morning after broadcast is still well within normal first-watch time.

A week later is absolutely fair game, but not the morning after.

I expect though in this case she had been carefully avoiding all the Twitter (etc) spoilers and news reports of Prue Leith's spoiler, whereas another week she wouldn't have been as bothered.

DeadGood Wed 01-Nov-17 11:41:20

I don’t think you really know what a spoiler is.
Do you consider it to only be if a TV show has been leaked before broadcast? That doesn’t happen all that often.
A spoiler is when someone reveals details of a show to someone who hasn’t yet seen it. I agree with a PP that there is a timing element to it. The morning after? Definitely still spoiler territory.
She overreacted, but you did “spoil” it. For sure.

bellagood Wed 01-Nov-17 11:41:42

YANBU. You are quite entitled to talk about the winner. It's not your problem if she didn't see it. Nothing was going to stop me watching the final last night, even a tv clash. Even if I had recorded it, I would have watched it before I went to bed.

She is being a drama queen. And yeah, it's not a 'spoiler' if it's already been on tv! confused

EdmundCleverClogs Wed 01-Nov-17 11:42:49

If we were still living in a culture where a program was on when it was on, no catch up and streaming, you'd have a point. However, that is no longer the case - people are not tied to the tv schedule. Whilst obviously you can't avoid these things 100% after initial broadcast, I don't think it's unreasonable to have a 24/48 'hush time', so anyone yet to catch up can do so. I don't think it's that ridiculous an ask, most media outlets I like keep things as spoiler free in titles for a good couple of days (American programs which are shown earlier in the USA manage not to accidentally spoil it for the rest of us for example). I can see why your colleague was cross to be honest.

Glumglowworm Wed 01-Nov-17 11:42:56

I agree that once it's aired it's fair game

People can still say "oh please don't tell me who won I've not seen it yet" but if they've not asked you not to talk about it then you're under no obligation to hold up signs saying spoiler alert

If someone really cares that much about not being spoiled they should watch it when it airs or at least before going to work with people who are likely to discuss it

pigeondujour Wed 01-Nov-17 11:43:41

It's pretty self obsessed to expect people to discuss popular tv programmes to your personal timeline. Watch it when it's on if you're that bothered. If you can't, accept that that's life and don't be a brat.

bellagood Wed 01-Nov-17 11:43:49

@Deadgood I think that's a bit daft, as there is bound to be someone who hasn't seen it. I am not going to not talk about it, because there may be someone listening, who didn't manage to watch it. confused

PerfumeIsAMessage Wed 01-Nov-17 11:45:41

No it's not. Here on MN every year though, about other things but mainly bake off, there is absolute hysteria with posters piling in on poor OPs, crying literally at times because they didn't watch the telly at the same time as other people.
Some people I guess are more telly addicts than others.
I get they are disappointed to find out before watching a show I suppose though I can't imagine being that absorbed by anything on TV, drama or reality show.

Goldfishshoals Wed 01-Nov-17 11:49:06

I think you are confusing spoilers with leaks. The normal way for spoilers to occur is for other people to have seen something you haven't, for which it must have aired!

The woman was unreasonable, because you had every right to chat about it, but her terminology in calling it a spoiler was fine.

LoverOfCake Wed 01-Nov-17 11:53:41

No yanbu it's not a spoiler if it's already aired. Not even if you've decided to record and watch later.

Figgygal Wed 01-Nov-17 11:56:07

I don't even care that much but I avoided all internet and radio this morning to try preserve my ignorance until I'd watched it.

amusedbush Wed 01-Nov-17 11:56:34

I'm busy during the week with work, the gym, errands, etc so I watch all of my TV for the week on a Saturday morning.

I think maybe five days after something airs is acceptable to not want any spoilers.

Says the person who is trying to avoid spoilers for the West Wing, which ended a decade ago grin

bellagood Wed 01-Nov-17 11:56:49

If we were still living in a culture where a program was on when it was on, no catch up and streaming, you'd have a point. However, that is no longer the case - people are not tied to the tv schedule. Whilst obviously you can't avoid these things 100% after initial broadcast, I don't think it's unreasonable to have a 24/48 'hush time', so anyone yet to catch up can do so. I don't think it's that ridiculous an ask, most media outlets I like keep things as spoiler free in titles for a good couple of days (American programs which are shown earlier in the USA manage not to accidentally spoil it for the rest of us for example). I can see why your colleague was cross to be honest.

@EdmundCleverClogs

Do you suggest the whole of the internet, the media, the newspapers, all the tv channels, all the news bulletins, EVERY single medium just hushes up and doesn't mention the winner of the most popular terrestrial show on tv, for 2 days, to accommodate the divas who are getting pissy at people revealing the winner to them, before they have watched it on catch up! confused

What if someone doesn't manage to watch it by the end of the second day? Do we not talk about it for a bit longer, so as not to upset the entitled divas?

I suggest the snowflakes and divas who can't bear to hear the result of something that has been aired on tv, but they haven't been arsed to watch yet, don't leave the house, don't put on the tv, don't use the internet, and don't answer the door, til they have seen it. Because I sure as hell ain't gonna not talk about it because of some precious diva who can't be arsed to watch it before they come out in public. hmm

Ellybellyboo Wed 01-Nov-17 11:57:52

I suppose to me, and everyone I’ve ever spoken to about stuff like this before, a spoiler is when someone reveals something before it’s been aired - so when people at Strictly live shows post the person who leaves before the live show has been aired on the Sunday.

But still, is it really reasonable to expect people not to talk about a popular TV show that has already aired if you haven’t seen it.

We were having a quiet conversation, not shouting or plastering it on FB

Last night and this morning there were people moaning about spoilers on GBBO’s own Facebook page. Of course they’re going to announce the winner of their own show.

I kind of think if someone hasn’t seen it, it’s up to them to avoid social media/other peoples conversations, not police the rest of us

Hippee Wed 01-Nov-17 12:00:24

It's not the end of the world, is it - though I'm still pissed off with the newspaper that printed the photo of the murderer from Broadchurch on the front page the day after the episode aired - had been looking forward to watching the whole series, but ended up deleting it.

TieGrr Wed 01-Nov-17 12:01:59

If she came over to join you, I'd have expected one of you to say 'we're talking about GBBO' or something along those lines before continuing on with the conversation. At which point she could have either left or asked you not to reveal who won.

Ellybellyboo Wed 01-Nov-17 12:09:17

She didn’t really give us a chance to say or do anything.

She came over and sat down before either of us had really realised she was there.

We stopped talking pretty much straight away

Ellybellyboo Wed 01-Nov-17 12:10:28

Sorry, pressed post too soon,

We stopped talking pretty much as she sat down then she immediately started ranting at us

SomethingNewToday Wed 01-Nov-17 12:21:58

to me, and everyone I’ve ever spoken to about stuff like this before, a spoiler is when someone reveals something before it’s been aired

Not to me tbh. With popular TV shows or series/films, I'd always say along the lines of 'Have you seen this now before we ruin the ending?' to anyone in the group. Even when I'm taking about old but popular shows like Prison Break - it's years old now but so popular I know a number of people that have only recently watched it or are intending to so don't want to know the outcome.

My sister is awful for film spoilers - she'll say 'Oh have you ever seen XXX?'. I get chance to go 'mmm not sure, maybe...'.
Now a reasonable person would say along the lines of 'it's the one with Jonny Depp, set in the 1800's?'. Oh no. My sister will go 'you know, the one set in the 1800's where Jonny Depp saves the princess then jumps off a cliff at the end and dies?'. angry

EdmundCleverClogs Wed 01-Nov-17 12:23:25

bellagood by 'hush' I don't mean not talk about it, just be a bit more aware that in this modern day of watching tv wherever and whenever I don't think it's unreasonable that someone hasn't sat down at 8pm on the dot to watch something. It's very easy to have click titles that say 'Winner of GBBO announced' rather than 'James/Sarah/Zog has won GBBO!'. Same with being aware of surroundings when talking about it, I wouldn't be impressed by learning a spoiler by someone talking too loudly in public about it e.g. ringing your mum on the train 'did you see it last night? I'm so pleased X won!'. It's just a bit of awareness and courtesy surely?

Oh, and I don't think you filled your quota of using the word diva there - do you want to try and slip a few more in, just so you really get your point across to anyone who may disagree with you?

JaneJeffer Wed 01-Nov-17 12:25:47

That'll teach her to eavesdrop. She should have worn a sign saying don't tell me who won Bakeoff.

I think once it has aired it's hard to avoid finding out.

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