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To be confused about the gender identity bill?

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StillConfusedAboutLife · 23/10/2017 18:13

I know it's supposed to make it easier for people with gender dysphoria or people who feel like they were born in the wrong body to change their gender, but how? What will you have to do to change your gender? Will you still have to see a doctor beforehand?

I don't understand how this will progress trans rights or make things easier tbh. Am I just being thick? I really don't understand it.

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Pengggwn · 23/10/2017 18:14

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CaoNiMwahaha · 23/10/2017 18:35

What will you have to do to change your gender?

Fill in a form online.

Will you still have to see a doctor beforehand?

Nope.

So you can look forward to seeing blokes in places you might not want/expect to see them. On the other hand, you can switch sides and petition for membership of men only clubs.

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Bufferingkisses · 23/10/2017 18:44

You also won't be able to access support for your dysphoria because it will no longer be classed as a "problem". You'll just fill in your form and have no further issues Smile

So pleased the government has sorted that little problem out...

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MaidOfStars · 23/10/2017 18:51

Basically, you will simply apply to legally change your gender, like a deed poll. A form to fill, an administrative charge, job done.

There is a deeper issue too. The protected characteristic of 'gender' covers those who have 'legally changed gender' and those 'in the process of changing gender'. She really, nobody need even fill in that form.

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MaidOfStars · 23/10/2017 18:51

So really, not 'she really'. Although ironic typo in context.

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CurbsideProphet · 23/10/2017 18:56

It essentially means that a biological man can access women's services ie refuges simply by saying that he is now a woman. Or you ask to see a female doctor and when a male doctor walks through the door you will be accused of discrimination/transphobia if you question this.
I'm sure that in The Handmaid's Tale there is a line about sleepwalking into the new world. Well here we are...

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Theducksarenotmyfriends · 23/10/2017 19:00

Do you have a reason for needing to?

Erm because we all live in this society together and it's nice to be informed and understand why stuff happens Confused

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StillConfusedAboutLife · 23/10/2017 19:02

So it is not actually there to progress trans rights at all then? What the bloody hell is it for then?

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MyYoniFromHull · 23/10/2017 19:04

Men. It's for men.
The word woman will be meaningless if it includes males who have completed a form.

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Pengggwn · 23/10/2017 19:05

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StickThatInYourPipe · 23/10/2017 19:09

Women have a right to know and understand why there are suddenly men in all their safe spaces Pengggwn. That is why the OP and many others will want to know.

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Pengggwn · 23/10/2017 19:10

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StickThatInYourPipe · 23/10/2017 19:56

But the questions raised in the OP are completely valid!

I personally cannot see this helping Transgender rights at all. Infact quite the opposite. It actually seems to take away support and help. Questioning these things is not anti Transgender, I don't see why it is an issue to want to understand these points.

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Pengggwn · 23/10/2017 19:58

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Theducksarenotmyfriends · 23/10/2017 21:10

Pengggwn cancer treatment is a life or death situation, clearly medical and affecting an individual. The op is discussing something which crosses medical and metal health services as well as having a direct wider impact (ie on women's services). I think it's fair enough they want to have some understanding of what it's all about. For the record I don't think they're a gf. Why are we not allowed to ask questions about it?

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Pengggwn · 23/10/2017 21:18

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Rumandraisin1 · 23/10/2017 21:29
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