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AIBU?

Why bother even asking

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Extua · 22/07/2017 12:23

Brief context - I have a slightly strained relationship with my mother and sister, though I'm not sure they would see it that way. My sister is 10 years younger than me, so in her late teens. My mother was a drug addict when we were younger (functioning, in that bills mostly got paid, food was mostly in the cupboard etc) but that meant I did a lot of caring for my sister and hand holding for my mother. Sort of a second parent to my sister and a friend to my mother. It's a fairly dysfunctional relationship. They want my opinions and support only when they are having dramas, the rest of the time it feels like they don't want to hear what I think. Their relationship is very intense as neither of them have many friends and therefore they spend a lot of time together. It's taken some active work on my part to distance myself enough to get on with life and not get drawn in all the time. I try and keep boundaries as much as possible now as they've always been so blurred in the past. Sorry not very brief.

Anyway AIBU - mother texted yesterday morning asking if her and my sister could pop over later. I'd taken the kids out for the day and wasn't expecting to be back until 4 or 5 at which point I'd be cracking on with dinner as OH was going out at 7. So I said as much, that I would be back too late but offered to call in the evening.

So about 5.30pm they rolled up anyway? Not for any reason other than they'd bought a toy for DS1 (2). They then stayed nearly an hour, holding the baby and talking and generally making it hard to get on with the evening. Luckily OH had cancelled plans so was around to help out, but they didn't know that. If they'd turned up out of the blue I would have been mildly put out, but am finding it really annoying that they asked me and then just ignored my answer. It's another in a long list of times I've felt my thoughts were ignored so maybe I'm a bit over the top/sensitive but aibu to find this irritating?

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StillStayingClassySanDiego · 22/07/2017 12:27

I would find the complete lack of regard from them about what you wanted intensely irritating.

Did you bring it up that you weren't expecting them?

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Sirzy · 22/07/2017 12:27

Did you point blank say "sorry tonight is no good" or did you say "I will be out til about 5 and then DH is out at 7" coz I can see how it could be (maybe deliberately) misconstrued if not very clear

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Extua · 22/07/2017 12:55

Just looked back at the messages, my reply I said "I'm out all day and won't be back til after 4 or 5 so it'll be too late. I could call in the evening though" so possibly a bit unclear but my mother replied "ok no worries, ring me tonight if there's a time that works for you if not we can speak tomorrow" so she clearly understood?

I didn't say anything when they arrived as I have no back bone.

Another example is she knows I am careful about how much sugar DS has and I particularly avoid him having sugary drinks as I don't see the point. He likes water. The other day she was giving him sips of her sugary bottled drink and I said "That's full of sugar" and her reply was just "well it's nice for him to have a treat when he's with me"... surely the correct response is "shit sorry, I won't give him any more (particularly as I know how you feel, you've said a lot how you feel about these drinksHmm)". Again I didn't say anything more, I just stew so I guess it's my fault.
Her and my sister both do things very impulsively and sloppily (e.g. half paint a wall then change their mind and it'll just stay that way for months) whereas I try and do stuff properly now because it makes me happier. I feel like they see me as lame and boring as a result and find it really hard to show any kind of spine when they do things as I feel like I'm confirming that I'm uptight toothem. I don't think I am uptight or that any of my friends would describe me that way.

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WonderLime · 22/07/2017 12:59

I do think they are rude, but I think as you've probably identified it's more about you standing up to them and putting boundaries in place.

And I do get how hard that is. I'm expecting my first child, and there are a lot of boundaries I need to put in place with my mum but I find it really hard because I know how she is wont to react. However we need to do what's right and just say no when we mean no.

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StillStayingClassySanDiego · 22/07/2017 13:00

I know it's easy to say 'find your back bone' when someone has little self esteem.

Are you bothered about their opinion of you? If they think you are lame boring or uptight so bloody what?

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StillDrivingMeBonkers · 22/07/2017 13:21

I don't understand these threads .

Its perfectly normal for relatives and friends to drop by. There simply isn't a booking system. There will be some very lonely old people , who will be unvisited if they treat their own children the way they treat their parents.

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PickAChew · 22/07/2017 13:27

You need to leave no wiggle room in your replies. "Tonight would not be possible" is all you needed to say.

Still, Op is perfectly entitled to keep relatives she doesn't have a good, healthy relationship with at arms length. There are no medals awarded for being a doormat. Popping in and out might be normal in your family, but OP is not in your family.

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Extua · 22/07/2017 13:30

I do care what they think I suppose. And I don't like that I do.

I disagree stilldrivingmebonkers. I wouldn't turn up at anyone's unannounced. I'd always ring or text first. I have plenty of friends who'll ring and say ooh I'm nearby are you about, and that's fine. I think it's rude to assume someone is prepared to drop whatever they're doing if you knock on the door. But in this case they did ask, I said it wasn't convenient and they came round anyway.

I wish I could find it in myself to stand up for myself with them. I know I need to, it's no use complaining if I don't make them aware when things bother me. It's just everything is dismissed.

For example their phone contracts are in my name as way back (we're talking 8 or 9 years) my mum couldn't get credit. They pay me for them every month but I have to look up the bill and tell them the amount and it's a pain. When their contract ended I asked my mother if they could get their own and she was very dismissive "what's the big deal doing it this way, does it even matter" I said it did to me and she acted like I was making a huge fuss. She's not an aggressive person but somehow manages to cow me.

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CoughLaughFart · 22/07/2017 13:36

It's perfectly normal for relatives and friends to drop by. There simply isn't a booking system

Isn't that up to the OP? And as she says, why bother asking if they were just going to turn up anyway?

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Extua · 22/07/2017 13:39

God I sound pathetic. I don't think I am in the rest of my life. And I have a job that requires me to be assertive and I manage that fine.
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StillStayingClassySanDiego · 22/07/2017 14:13

I don't think you sound pathetic, I do think your history with being a 'mother figure' to your sister and actual Mother has somehow stopped you feeling able to assert yourself, the phone contract being a case in point.

I would strongly recommend you looking for books/ online guides to boost your self esteem and techniques about learning to be assertive.

This isn't just about them just dropping by unannounced , it's time you changed the way you accept their treatment of you and not be cowed by them.

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amber90 · 22/07/2017 14:27

It's perfectly normal for relatives and friends to drop by. There simply isn't a booking system

Its really not. Its rude and inconsiderate and I cant stand when people just "drop by". I'd never impose myself on anyone - friend or family, without calling to at least see if it was convenient for them!

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Extua · 22/07/2017 14:48

I think I find it hard to say something in this instance because it would be taken as me not wanting to see them. Then I'd have to say how I like seeing them it's just basically the principle of asking then ignoring my response at which point it'll be well what does it matter (since you are happy to see us) - circular logic that backs me into a corner

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MadMags · 22/07/2017 14:50

If it had been my mum and sister I'd have stuck extra food on and just got on with things around them.

But obviously your relationship with them is very different.

It's hard, I think, for people like me to see it as a big deal!

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Extua · 22/07/2017 14:56

My sister had work later so they had already eaten. I think because I feel a bit tense around them I can't be like that MadMags. I think once a upon a time it might have been more like that but feels impossible now. It would be nice.

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Mysteriouscurle · 22/07/2017 14:58

When phone contract comes up for renewal could you manage to say youre cancelling the contracts because its a hassle for you. And then just cancel. They will have to make their own arrangements then. I would also be loathe to tell people to back off in real life but I'd probably not be answering the door if I told them it wasnt convenient and they ignored me anyway. I probably would avoid justifying my movements and instead of saying about in at 5 and OH out at 7 I would prob say no x day is no good. And draw the curtainsGrin

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