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To fucking hate SATS?

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justwait Wed 26-Apr-17 11:15:46

Dd is in year 6. I'd like to say the school has been low key about SATS but it hasn't. She's been tested about 6 times this year. She had a test the morning she got back after easter and didn't do very well in it. We did no sats practice over easter because she's on a sports talent programme and was away a lot.

She's thin, not eating. She said she she sat at the table yesterday and everytime she looked at the paper everything went 'prickly and she didn't feel real'

I think she's massively anxious. She's doing really well in literacy predicted over 110 and maths just over 100. I have told her time and time again not to worry.

Just wanted to rant. The best thing she's done this year was make a little Anderson shelter during the ww2 topic and write a beautiful story about it. I'm gutted she's not done more of this kind of thing in her last year at primary. It's shit.

Fuzzipeg Wed 26-Apr-17 11:31:42

I can utterly sympathise, DD had this last year. The school dropped music, french, art, DT and PSHE in year 6 to push the SATS. School was boring and stressful. Tests were repeated again and again and the children got into trouble if they didn't improve on their score each time. The teacher, who we knew to be lovely also became shouty and stressed.
You just have to continue to put things into perspective where the school haven't. Remind dd that high school do different tests ( much more low key) in year 7, so although it would be nice to do well it's not the end of the world if you don't. SATS are there to test the teachers and how well they are doing their jobs. Once they are over there will be time to do the special end of Primary school things. Don't stress over SAtS practise at home but do fun, relaxing things instead. If she is already predicted to reach the expected standard, doing extra at home isnt really necessary. 💐

justwait Wed 26-Apr-17 11:34:01

I have spoken to five other parents and they all have tutors! Honestly I wouldn't have believed that if I hadn't heard it myself. It's NUTS.

justwait Wed 26-Apr-17 11:35:19

I think dd is worried because she doesn't have a tutor. One girl in her class cried because she got ONE QUESTION WRONG IN THE MATHS PAPER

This is a normal state primary. Wtf is wrong with us??!!

Girlwhowearsglasses Wed 26-Apr-17 11:37:55

Yanbu

We were asked to do half an hours work every day over Easter and I have had enough now and we didn't do it. DS has anxiety amongst other things and he needed a break.

I would have boycotted the tests if that would have made any difference -but it's all the preparation and continual talk about them that's actually the pressure. School was really good about the age 7 ones but they just can't afford to ignore these ones and we all pay a massive price.

What with all the angst over school open days and application in the autumn term year six is a massive waste of a really crucial year in a child's life sad

justwait Wed 26-Apr-17 11:41:22

One girl has given up her sport so 'she can concentrate on sats'

Over my dead body

CassandraAusten Wed 26-Apr-17 11:44:04

My DS is in year 6. His school has a low key approach to SATs, so it does exist! They've been doing a bit of revision but not OTT and none of the kids seem to be worried about it. Maybe speak to the teacher and share your concerns?

JennyOnAPlate Wed 26-Apr-17 11:44:31

We're in a similar situation only with year 2 sats. Dd was in tears and inconsolable at bed time last night because she got a few questions wrong on a practice test. Once a month or so all year they've spent a whole week doing practice papers. It's shit and I hate it.

My 7 year old has gone from loving school to not wanting to go.

RedSkyAtNight Wed 26-Apr-17 11:46:49

DD's school is thankfully lower key than that but even then she's had the odd moment.

I always point out on Primary Education threads that the reason that school A has better results than school B may well be because of hothouse madness in Year 6. Often wonder how many parent who picked a school for its better SATS results in YR or Y3 are complaining about the SATS hothouse in Y6 ...

RedSkyAtNight Wed 26-Apr-17 11:47:24

And totally wrong that 7 year olds are stressing. 7 year olds should not even know what SATS are IMO

NavyandWhite Wed 26-Apr-17 11:49:36

I agree OP. It's ridiculous the stress it causes a lot of children. One of the perks of going private is that they don't do sats at ds' school!

justwait Wed 26-Apr-17 11:50:54

"Often wonder how many parent who picked a school for its better SATS results in YR or Y3 are complaining about the SATS hothouse in Y6 ..."

Not me. This is my local village school where I've lived for years. In fact their SATS results weren't that great in 2015 which I guess is why they've ramped it up this year.

knackeredinyorkshire Wed 26-Apr-17 11:51:31

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justwait Wed 26-Apr-17 11:51:58

My older children went private at year 6 and yes, no sats were good. Their school did have quite full on exams at the end if year 6 though.

hesterton Wed 26-Apr-17 11:52:44

It is appalling. Horrific for staff and children. All so the government can add to data. Learning should be far more fun and content, varied.

knackeredinyorkshire Wed 26-Apr-17 11:55:33

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C0untDucku1a Wed 26-Apr-17 11:57:26

Sats are pointless. They will be reassessed in secondary and sets changed of needed. Usually Needed. Sometimes quite dramaticlly depending on yr 6 attitudes to sats.

friendlyflicka Wed 26-Apr-17 11:57:26

Mine is year 5, already school has got really boring - and this is a nice good fun school generally. I think that is the real shame of it - suddenly all normal stuff is dropped in favour or unimaginative cramming.

Whatsername17 Wed 26-Apr-17 12:04:24

My school used to be a middle school- year 6-9. The best thing about it was that all kids followed a secondary timetable. Therefore, they still did PE, humanities, drama, science, ADT as normal because it was time tabled. Our results were always fantastic. We are now 11-16 so all the focus is on gcse. We try hard not to put pressure on three kids but it's hard when the government are hammering you for results. It's so wrong. I blame Gove.

Creampastry Wed 26-Apr-17 13:01:31

SATS are a waste of time as where we live all schools in year 7 reassess the kids. Primary schools also, IMO, focus too much just because if targets and league tables. Just tell your kid to try their best and they are for the government and have little no impact in the next school.

CPtart Wed 26-Apr-17 13:04:54

DS2 did SATS last year and was 'set' on the results. Despite the year group being retested there has been virtually no movement, even of children from different schools. Same with DS1 two years earlier.

Whatthefudger Wed 26-Apr-17 13:14:10

I hate these DS is about to do them now. He has a tutor but I've told him not to worry.

justwait Wed 26-Apr-17 13:15:43

I do think the secondary feeder sets on the SATS results. So I suppose they are important for those reasons.

amicissimma Wed 26-Apr-17 13:19:39

I would say the problem is not the SATs so much as what the school is doing.

Neither of my DCs were more than slightly aware that they were being tested and attached minimal importance to them. This was because the school, who had been gradually teaching what the children needed for good SATs results since year 1, made no fuss over the tests and any practice was very subtle. The results were very good.

I wouldn't like to get rid of SATs as I think we need to check that the schools are actually getting the children up to the standard they need to handle secondary. I would prefer to bring them forward to the end of year 5 or January of year 6 to allow time for remedial action to be taken where necessary.

My neighbours' DCs are at a private school and they don't do SATS but they do sit exams of some kind every year. The children all seem very laid back about them and seem to actually enjoy 'Exam week' with its longer breaks and different structure.

Morphene Wed 26-Apr-17 13:21:20

Every time I have a wobble over whether or not to continue home eding, a thread comes up like this.

Honestly, please just take your children out of school if they are getting so ill and distressed by what the school is putting them through. It isn't for the good of the child, or their education, it is purely for the good of the school and its league position. It doesn't just have no value for the children, it has negative value. It makes many of them ill immediately and many many more will suffer anxiety disorders later in life. It reinforces terrible conceptions of learning that they will have to spend time and effort escaping from when they move to Higher education.

We are facing a mental health crisis in Higher Education already, and we don't yet have students that have had the full whack of the current testing regime yet.

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