Aibu to think this will is fair?(34 Posts)
So background dh has two dc (ds and dd) and I have two boys.
This is what dh thinks Is fair either me or dh passes away the surviving partner gets everything. Then when the sole partner dies it will be divided between all four dc.
I am against this I have money I've inherited including a property that I don't want dh's dc to get a share of it because why should they.
I think it should be split and be given to dc in trust when the dc die.
Depends, does he bring anything to the marriage?
I think you can specifically exclude family money.
YABVU. I'm with your DH; that's the fairest thing. Sounds like you don't like your stepchildren very much.
It's not fair anyway, because what if either of you remarried after the other died?
I think you should leave the house you live in to all four children, but leave your money wherever you want to. Would that work?
How old were your step DC when you married, and how old are they now?
Why should she leave her other house to her step children?
Your inheritance was given to you by your relatives. . Ones who don't know your dsc so you are right it doesn't need to be shared out to them imo. .
They will inherit from dm +df family will they not anyway?
If they have your share then that's 3 shares!! When your own dc will have only yours and df inheritance.
It could be even worse if the surviving spouse remarries and subsequently dies as everything could go to someone else entirely! It is a difficult one but you might want to make some provision in your will for DH's children with the bulk of 'your' money going to your DC. You must expect DH to make a will in a similar manner of course. A modern-day dilemma - you need a good financial adviser who specialises in this type of inheritance planning.
The thing is that there's nothing stopping the surviving partner from selling up, downsizing and spending the difference, is there?
Yes, leaving absolutely everything to the spouse is risky.
Are your DC your OH's children? I think that makes a doffernce
i think what is fair in this sort of situation is for each of you to have your half of the marital assets and your will says your half is split between your children and your husbands will says his half is split between his children . with the wills each providing for a lifetime interest in the house the surviving spouse lives in.
Whatever happened to "what's mine is yours" and "with all my worldly goods I thee endow"?
When did it turn into "what's mine is yours, except for what I inherit from my family, that's mine alone (and won't be shared with any children you might have had before you knew me ..)"
If DH's parents win millions on the lottery and then suddenly and tragically die before spending it, would you be happy that your own children were excluded from inheriting that money simply because it came from his side of the family?
Please make sure you look after all your children. My exH died suddenly having always intimated to my DDs that they would be looked after when he'd gone, only to discover he'd left everything bar to his new DW. He didn't even name them in his will. This really hurt them as they felt they meant nothing to their DF.
My DH and I have set things up so there is life insurance to the value of what our house is worth for each of us so our DCs get something immediately, mortgage protection to pay off mortgage and our wills state the surviving spouse can remain in the property as long as they need to but on departure it is to be sold with half of the proceeds going to the deceased's children.
And yes, all our DCs are named in our wills.
My mum and her partner had mirror wills , leaving each other everything, then to be split with us 3DC, 1 mutual DC, partners DD and me. My mum died last year, and I've just found out from dsil that before my mum was even cold I'd been written out of the remaining will. My late dB and I always knew he would do that if dm went first, think carefully about what you do. My dh and I have mirror wills too, you have to trust your partner to do it though.
I think if one goes then their estate should be immediatly split with half going to the partner and the other half split equally between the deceaseds children.
As and when the other person passes they give to their own.
DO NOT HAVE MIRROR WILLS IN A BLENDED FAMILY - EVER!!!
If you die 1st nothing stopping dh giving everything to his 2 children and visa versa.
Or getting remarried and have a mirror will and his new wife gives it all to her children.
Threads come up here and over sites and are populated with hundreds of posts from people who have been disinherited by step parents.
If you talk to a solicitor they will tell you just how often the surviving spouse in these siuations ignors the wishes of the deceased spouse to some degree or other.
Personally i agree with you. I dont see that his children should automatically benefit from your inheritance.
Whatever happened to "what's mine is yours" and "with all my worldly goods I thee endow
This is fine when it's a first marriage and the only DCs are of the marriage. it gets more complicated when there are second marriages, step kids etc.
I didn't marry DH until my DCs were older teens and DD1 was at university. We lived separately until then. They have a great relationship, but he was never a "Stepfather' figure. My house was paid off, he had his own house which he now rents out. DCs DF is producing siblings for them at a rate of knots - and his DW is same age as DD1 so not much chance of inheriting there.
The deal is that my DCs inherit what I have, and his DNs inherit what he has. I know too many cases like Boon describes.
YANBU - no way would I agree to this.
A good friend of mine had a mother who came from a very wealthy family. When she died she left everything to her DH who remarried. The second wife had a will which split everything between my friend, her three siblings, and her own two children.
As soon as friends father died, second wife changed her will and when she died, all the money went to her 2 DC. The estate was over £3 million, most of which came from friends mother. She and her siblings never saw a penny of it.
I would leave everything in trust for your DC.
Do not risk leaving it to DH. So many stories about the surviving partner having promised to share between kids either:
Remarries, dies and his new wife, (random woman with zero connection to any of the DC) has all the money. She may even have her own DC to leave it to.
Finds relations getting difficult with teen/adult step DC and decides that they don't deserve it as relationship breaks down.
Needs it all for lifestyle/living abroad/care home costs
The only way to protect it is to leave it direct to your own DC
Obvs see a lawyer to protect DH's interest as well.
If everything is left to the surviving spouse, you risk your dcs being disinherited if you die first. It is as plain as that.
This happened to my DM and her siblings. As soon as my DGF died, his partner rewrote her will so that only her children inherited the estate she had inherited from my grandfather. It was quite a lot of money, and the situation was made worse by the fact that my grandmother had had to take out a second mortgage on the old family home to buy my grandfather out when he left and it was that money that formed a major part of my grandfather's estate.
I've known of some horrendous situations. If your spouse inherits everything, there's nothing to stop him turfing your kids out of the house on the event of your death. I've known that happen to a pair of siblings.
What is yours must go to your children and visa versa.
DO NOT HAVE MIRROR WILLS IN A BLENDED FAMILY - EVER!!!
It probably isn't a good idea in non-blended families either. While they might not be blended now, there's no guarantee that they won't become part of a blended family after your demise.
Just to say that we used Marlow Wills which is run by a Mumsnetter. Yvonne was really good at setting out various options and helping each of us to decide what to put in our wills in a similarly complicated scenario. It was all done by email and post, really fast and very reasonable too. Thoroughly recommended.
We dont. Kids get half the house and some other assets if one of us dies or this reason.
It may sound harsh but if my wife died and i remarried I would not trust my new wife to put the interests of my kids above hers no matter what she might say. Equally i would not expect her to trust me either.
I'd keep it separate too. Your step children will have a mother who they'll inherit off as well, I can't see her including your children in her will
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