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To report this neighbour to HMRC...??

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Willybumbum Sun 12-Feb-17 17:34:40

Long time MNer, but need to keep it anonymous for this one - thank you.

To cut a long story short, we have the typical nightmare neighbour from hell in our block - won't go into the whole long saga there!

I've not been directly involved with the situation cause I am shit scared of them, but know from contact with the residents' association the family's names, that the police have been called multiple times by different people on the block, and also that social services are involved (immediate neighbours have reported verbal and physical abuse towards wife and kids on the dad's part).

The tenancy is managed by a landlord's representative, who has been spectacularly unhelpful so far when issues have been reported, and we had the feeling that either the message wasn't getting through to the landlord or that for whatever reason the landlord didn't seem to want to know.

I was initially doing a bit of Googling to see if we could track down the landlord's address or contact details to speak to him directly, having obtained his name and basic details from the land registry.

No joy in that, but searching led on to include Companies House / Endole / 192 type sites, where I found that landlord, landlord's agent, tenant and tenant's wife all had the same really strange pattern in their Companies House profiles - i.e. a series of previous companies dating back years, each of less than 18 months duration and with no accounts filed, and none with any "real world" presence (i.e. website, telephone number) beyond Companies House. One is even in our local high street, and definitely doesn't exist there as an actual business. Several of the director names on the businesses and associated business addresses overlapped, though in no instances was there any direct link between landlord and tenant. None of the business names really seem to give any indication of what the business is / does, or reflect any kind of trend or pattern in business activity.

The tenant was also declared bankrupt last year (he was listed on the file as occupation unknown), but at about the same time a new business was registered to the wife's name and - for the first time - to their home address (which I'm not sure is allowed under the terms of a residential release). Again, the business doesn't have any "real world" presence, and the company name is "meaningless" in terms of indicating what the business is all about.

I'm not an accountant by any means, but this surely must be something dodge - money laundering or tax avoidance or something, and goes beyond coincidence in pointing to (if not proves) a connection (family maybe?) between landlord, agent and tenant...? I am presuming the tenant and his wife would not be acting without guidance here, as they don't exactly come across as your criminal mastermind or your entrepreneurial types - but who knows...??

Am putting this to the collective wisdom of Mumsnet in the hope that there might be any accountants / police etc types who might be able to shed some light on what the above really means...?

Would I be AIBU to report this anonymously, and if I did would it actually go anywhere with HMRC...?

MongerTruffle Sun 12-Feb-17 17:41:25

They certainly could be tax dodging e.g. spreading income over companies could avoid VAT.

I would report to HMRC to be on the safe side.

witsender Sun 12-Feb-17 17:47:38

I wouldn't. Why does it impact you? What is on companies House is public knowledge, so doesn't sound particularly secretive...What would you actually say to them?

Awwlookatmybabyspider Sun 12-Feb-17 17:47:52

I wouldn't. Hes had to make himself bankrupt. In monetary terms it doesn't get much worse than that. He doesn't need you adding to it by running to the HMRC.
You seem to know an awful lot about your neighbours, so I take it you must be very close to them.

haveacupoftea Sun 12-Feb-17 17:51:51

Yes of course YABU! Stop googling your neighbours!

Willybumbum Sun 12-Feb-17 17:54:21

It effects me in that they are putting the collective block through hell through anti-social behaviour, so whatever aids the effort to get them to either move on or pipe down...

I wish I didn't know about them TBH but they make themselves very hard to miss. I only know so much as a Google search revealed, but it just looks really strange when viewed all in context - I will admit to know being intrigued though!

Willybumbum Sun 12-Feb-17 17:56:07

I don't routinely google my neighbours (or not ones who are not a collective nightmare) - as I mentioned, this was meant to start as a search for the landlord's contact details directly, and this is where it led.

gandalf456 Sun 12-Feb-17 18:00:10

I wouldn't. It could make things worse un less it results in him moving away

Awwlookatmybabyspider Sun 12-Feb-17 18:01:24

If someone was googling me. I'd find it pretty odd, tbh.

Willybumbum Sun 12-Feb-17 18:22:12

I find it odd to scream abuse and assault manifold neighbours, and not expect at least one of them to see what they can do about it - even if that in the event turns out to be nothing.

haveacupoftea Sun 12-Feb-17 18:24:23

Ring the police if you are being assaulted and abused.

ilovesooty Sun 12-Feb-17 18:33:13

A couple of things strike me:

Another coward hiding behind a name change
You've already decided you aren't BU so I don't know why you asked.

JeNeSuisPasVotreMiel Sun 12-Feb-17 18:39:07

It's none of your business.

If you like, for fairness' sake, give us your name and we can see what a bit of googling throws up about you.

BorrowedHeart Sun 12-Feb-17 18:47:51

I've never thought to google a neighbour.. not even an annoying one. That alone seems strange to me. The rest I don't understand, not for how it's worded I just don't know what any of it means. Not helpful, I know.

Awwlookatmybabyspider Sun 12-Feb-17 18:55:14

Op. Is there something else going on here. I say this in relation to your post at 18.22. If you are being verbally abused. We can support you with that.

EveOnline2016 Sun 12-Feb-17 18:59:45

Report it if you really want to be responsible for causing the wife and children more verbal and physical abuse, because that will happen if HMRC investigate. He will take it out on them.

DrivingMeBonkers Sun 12-Feb-17 19:00:56

One is even in our local high street, and definitely doesn't exist there as an actual business.

That doesn't mean anything, it's the registered address, not the trading address.

Livelovebehappy Sun 12-Feb-17 19:46:31

I would just use the HMRC whistle blowing site. If it's nothing, then no harm done, as they won't take it further. They seem to have made yours and your neighbours lives hell, so nothing wrong in directing a bit of grief their way. Karma and all that.

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