To park on single yellow line?

[TheoriginalLEM]

On a bank holiday.

We generally park on single yellow lines on a Sunday and DP maintained that you can also do so on a bank holiday as it is classed as a Sunday?

We return to the car to find we have a parking ticket. So it would appear that bank holiday is not classed as a sunday after all. We were not the only idiots as the whole road was full of cars. There are no other restrictions on this road and we have parked there for many years with no incident.

DP raving on mansplaining how bank holiday is or at least should be the same as a Sunday and that he is going to contest it. I say, "I didn't realise/understand" is not an adequate defence and just pay the fucking fine within 14 days so as to avoid it being double.

Get home and he "asks google" and google confirms that he is indeed correct, but in the city of Westminster (we have parked in London on many occasion on single yellows - no ticket!)

Our local council website doesn't state anywhere clearly what the situation is, had to download the whole regulations for the area and about to wade through it now.

The bloody annoying thing is that we would have parked at the other side of town and walked through and it was about the same distance to walk.

It would seem others were under the same impression.

What is your council policy?

I reckon we will end up having to pay and fair enough, but we clearly weren't the only ones and I can't believe about 20 people were daft enough to take a chance.

[DollyPlastic]

I think he's right.

[DanniiMinogue]

If the line is not enforced on a BH the time plate will say so. There is no hard and fast rule, it differs depending on the needs of the area.

[TheoriginalLEM]

Our local council (Canterbury) website is as clear as mud,, just looked on city of London website and it clearly states that parking restrictions on single yellow lines are not upheld on a bank holiday or Sunday. DP is from London so all his life that has been what has followed.

There were a lot of tickets issued, I'm not fecking paying it though.

[DesolateWaist]

There should be a sign near by which says if bank holidays count or not.
I know the single yellow where I live do still count on a bank holiday.

[TheoriginalLEM]

Danni, the needs wont be any different on a Sunday than a bank holiday though. Of course, I bet they use this as their get out. Fuckers.

[DanniiMinogue]

I've never heard of there being an actual rule that BH are enforced in the same way as Sundays because, as I said before everywhere is different. You always need to check the signs. People make the assumption that enforcement officers wont be around because it's BH when on fact, it's probably the time when they do need to be around due to the increase in traffic.

[TheoriginalLEM]

Desolate, we are going to go and look for that I think. There is NOTHING on the website. Bloody annoying and they clearly targeted that area today.

[DesolateWaist]

Why are you refusing to pay? I'm guessing the traffic wardens know the rules.
You parked, failed to check if you were legal to park there, and were fined according.

[DesolateWaist]

Can you look on street view for the sign?

[DanniiMinogue]

The needs for a BH are and can be totally different in London, for example, you have the New yrs day parade on central London, it's a BH but it won't always fall on a Sunday.

I would email in to the Council and explain but do so within the 14 day period. My feeling is that you will have to pay it but emailing in gives the Council a chance to check the case and make sure that the ticket was issued correctly in terms of policy.

[TheoriginalLEM]

We didn't park there because we thought the enforcement officer wasn't around though, we parked there because we thought we were fine to do so. I don't recall seeing this on the sign, I think there is one to day Monday-Saturday but in all fairness we didn't check today. There should be a hard a fast rule though!

[DanniiMinogue]

If you do find a time plate (and there may not be one immediately at the location - there doesn't necessarily have to be), it will probably simply be a standard 'no waiting' with the associated times. You can ask the Council to provide a photo if you can't find it on Google though.

[PossumInAPearTree]

If bh don't count it will say so on the sign in the street. The signs near here clearly state that you can park on a single yellow on Sundays and bank holidays.

[TheoriginalLEM]

Apparenly the rules changed, in this area in October 16 so I guess we are fucked but there has been no announcement. If there is no sign we wont be paying, if there is then I guess we will have to, but having parked there for years I guess we didn't feel the need to check.

[DesolateWaist]

This is the sign from the end of my road.
I've just found it on street view. It only says about Monday to Sunday. So I wouldn't park there on a bank holiday.

[DanniiMinogue]

There can never be a hard and fast rule, it's not possible - how can the rules that apply in a small northern market town also apply in central London?

If the time plate states Mon - Saturday and you're parked on a Monday then the restrictions apply. Thats the simplest way to do it so that it is clear and consistent for everyone.

[downwardfacingdog]

Single yellow line means - check the sign for restrictions. It means that everywhere so you should have just done that sorry. Sometimes restrictions are Monday - Friday, sometimes they are certain times of day, you need to read the sign. Presumably the warden did.

[PidgeyfinderGeneral]

It depends on the sign that was by the side of the road.

Westminster is usually the same as Sunday on a bank holiday and their website suggests that today as an alternative bank holiday is also free.

www.westminster.gov.uk/bank-holiday-parking-controls

However, Westminster are a bit of a mare with parking. Can you remember what the sign said?

[PossumInAPearTree]

And traffic wardens don't always know the rules.

Street near me always been a single yellow line. My mum parks there every Sunday for church. One day she got a ticket because they'd repainted the yellow line and in places the line was wobbly and looked like a double. But it was blatantly still a single as the double bits only lasted for about 2ft, then was fine for 6ft then went double again. Also no stop bar. Mum appealed, council refused the appeal and said it was a double line. Mum insisted on a site visit where she met some senior bod who admitted mum was right.

[PidgeyfinderGeneral]

Sorry, x post.

In that case, you can try appealing it and see where you get.

[MotherFuckingChainsaw]

The actual regulations are pretty clear though. The plate tells you the hours of operation. If you CBA to wade through.

www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/455160/TSRGD-august-2015-regulations.pdf

If it doesn't actually say bank holidays then they are not exempt. They're are quite a few plates round our way that do specifically state a bank holiday exemption.

In your example I would probably have chanced it myself, but would accept it was my fault if I got the ticket.

[DesignedForLife]

Don't know, but I know a few years back the wardens went out in Faversham and ticketed everyone whose car was parking facing the wrong way (against the direction of traffic), so wouldn't surprise me if they had done it on purpose

[TheoriginalLEM]

They changed the rules recently - came into force Nov 16.

This is what the website says "At the moment some parking restrictions apply on bank holidays and some do not. In order to reduce the inevitable confusion, references to bank holidays are to be removed from all of the orders. All parking restrictions will therefore apply as normal on the day of the week concerned."

But who checks a website before they go to town? Desolate, I agree with you totally in principle, however it has always been that you could park there on a BH up until November so will appeal I think as I feel that they should have been clearer. The website is as vague as hell and I wouldn't have found this information without trudging thgrough it.