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Change to work hours - 1 day notice?

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jennifleurs Mon 17-Feb-14 11:16:05

In my contract it says something about being flexible to meet the demands of the company.

But for the 2nd time (a couple of weeks apart) my shift time has been changed short notice and im struggling for child care.

It's only an hour different - was supposed to do a 5-9 but now changed to a 4-8, but boss emailed everyone last night at 7.30pm.

Am I in the right if I ring and say I can't come in earlier because I have child care arranged for 5-9?

glasgowsteven Mon 17-Feb-14 11:27:27

Turn up at 5,

Sorry never checked my email last night

you should really have phoned - really sorry boss.

Also turn off your phone smile

glasgowsteven Mon 17-Feb-14 11:27:57

Unless you are paid to check your email on a sunday night smile

ThePinkOcelot Mon 17-Feb-14 11:40:22

I would just go in for your original time, and just say you haven't been on your emails.

Fairenuff Mon 17-Feb-14 11:41:19

Yep turn phone off. Turn up as usual.

jennifleurs Mon 17-Feb-14 11:41:57

Doesn't everyone have smart phones these days with their email synced? I do so no getting away from it unfortunately.

Think I will have to ring and explain and hope he isn't too annoyed :/

glasgowsteven Mon 17-Feb-14 11:49:06

Do what you want smile

Go in without a phone and say

My phone has beenbroken all weekend.

How has everyone been.

Or ignore all the advice and make things difficult for yoruself sad

glasgowsteven Mon 17-Feb-14 11:49:30

Do you read every email you get

Got so many over the weekend I never noticed


FoxesRevenge Mon 17-Feb-14 11:51:26

Don't be a doormat, follow the advice above. He cannot reasonably expect you to check your emails on a Sunday night and even if you did, like you say you have childcare to take into consideration. Just be assertive and tell him straight.

Fairenuff Mon 17-Feb-14 11:53:27

Think I will have to ring and explain and hope he isn't too annoyed

Tbh I think that's a bit wishy washy. He is being unreasonable to expect you to drop everything at a moment's notice. Who cares if he is annoyed.

You can bet he's not at home worrying that you might be annoyed with him.

Email him back and state that it is not possible to change your previous commitments at such short notice. In future you need x amount of notice to do this.

Keep copies of all correspondence and don't talk in person.

glasgowsteven Mon 17-Feb-14 11:55:38

Disagree Fairenuuff,

I would avoid the confrontation by not knowing about it....

Never checked email.

Phone next time please smile

glasgowsteven Mon 17-Feb-14 12:01:15

I am on a capped contract and had no data left on my contract.

I had locked myself out of my hotmail as had forgotten my password...

be creative

Stinklebell Mon 17-Feb-14 12:03:02

I'd just rock up at my normal time and say I'd never got the email

I've always accidentally left my phone in my friend's car and didn't get the email with things like this

glasgowsteven Mon 17-Feb-14 12:04:40

Another good one. Left my phone at a friends house last night...Getting it tonight after work

jennifleurs Mon 17-Feb-14 12:08:12

Not ignoring the advice, I appreciate it! I'm just a bit intimidated by him as he's quite moody a lot of the time and has 'told me off' in front of colleagues before (has done it to other colleages on different occasions). Spoke to him privately about it after once I'd calmed down.

I do think it's unreasonable to change our shifts the might before. He is quite an unreasonable person.

LimitedEditionLady Mon 17-Feb-14 12:09:37

Id just go in at the normal time and say sorry i had no childcare,tried to get someone earlier but they only managed to get there at the same time so im here now.If you make a fuss youll get a fuss back.

LimitedEditionLady Mon 17-Feb-14 12:10:44

Sounds like he has no respect for you guys,if you change last minute once he will expect it everytime.

NotNewButNameChanged Mon 17-Feb-14 12:11:51

jennifleurs - I don't have a smartphone, just a bog standard mobile, so no, not everyone has their email synced to a phone

ivykaty44 Mon 17-Feb-14 12:12:32

next time, I take it this treatment of changing hours at the drop of a hat is expected to continue

I would email back and say not enough notice has been given for a change of hours and you will start your shift at the allocated time, in further you will need 48 hours notice and this is for working days only - therefore you would need to know on Thursday if a change of pattern is required for a Monday as child minders are not working or contactable at weekends.

glasgowsteven Mon 17-Feb-14 12:12:48

I too dont have a smartphone - a ten quid samsung without a camera even.

to the shame of my teenage daughter.....

Bowlersarm Mon 17-Feb-14 12:13:05

Christ you're a dishonest bunch.

I'm not sure what I would do OP. I think the turn up at normal time, saying it was too short notice to put other childcare into place, option.

SandStorm Mon 17-Feb-14 12:14:47

I do have a smart phone but the signal around here is appalling so I often don't sync for three or four hours at a time, sometimes longer.

Just tell him you weren't able to rearrange your childcare.

glasgowsteven Mon 17-Feb-14 12:20:33

Christ you're a dishonest bunch.

I'm not sure what I would do OP. I think the turn up at normal time, saying it was too short notice to put other childcare into place, option.

To do that she would really have to phone him - now - and tell him she wont be able to make it early to allow him to cover....

and he will just shout and bawl

chippers1 Mon 17-Feb-14 12:29:32

The boss, if he is not stupid, will have put a read reciept on his email, so will know if you got or not. Lying will only mean you could get sacked ???

Braganza Mon 17-Feb-14 12:38:32

Your contract should specify notice of any change to shifts, but it sounds as though it doesn't. Obviously 1 day is not reasonable. How long have you been employed there? If long enough to have employment rights (an so they can't just get rid of you), your best bet is to call him and say he hasn't given you enough notice to change childcare, and you'll be in as he first told you. Lying is pointless as this will happen again. You can be clear that you are happy to be flexible if possible, but it is not likely to be possible at short notice. Standard is that shifts are known at least a week in advance. If he kicks up, you could suggest that it's indirect sexual discrimination as it discriminates against workers with children.

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