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In thinking that racisim is sometimes used when suited by some!

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Mum2harryandben Sun 05-Dec-10 00:14:26

A child was invited to a sleepover at school(of Asian decent, fasts at Ramadam so not sure of religion or culture issues here) and said to the other kids, they were not allowed to go as it was to a white person's house, one of the children said that is racist and the Asian kid said I know!

I was shocked that this goes on in this day and age, does it still go on a lot?! Also I wonder if the child having the party said to that Asian kid, you can't come as you are white what the parents reaction would have been?

Mum2harryandben Sun 05-Dec-10 00:15:32

opps, should have been, you can't come as you are not white!

AgentZigzag Sun 05-Dec-10 00:18:30

Where did you come by the info on this?

If it was from a DC, I wouldn't give it too much credence.

Mum2harryandben Sun 05-Dec-10 00:19:38

yes dc, I am a single parent and it has been bothering me!

Limez Sun 05-Dec-10 00:19:40

I dont understand.

Anyway, kids come out with all kinds of crap.

Mum2harryandben Sun 05-Dec-10 00:19:57

not got dp to talk this through with

Mum2harryandben Sun 05-Dec-10 00:22:40

ok you guys think that the other kid made it up then? maybe they did!

Goblinchild Sun 05-Dec-10 00:22:52

If the child fasts at Ramadan, they are Muslim.
So the parents may be concerned about halal food, alcohol drinking by adults, smoking by the adult female, cultural clash stuff.
Or they could be racist. Some of the nastiest insults used to fly between the Pakistani and Bengali children in my school, both groups Muslim.

AgentZigzag Sun 05-Dec-10 00:22:56

Children say all sorts of things they 'shouldn't'.

'He's a gay', 'you're fat and ugly' 'you live in a rented house' (one I threw at someone when I was younger blush).

I bet the conversation didn't go anything like how it was retold.

Mum2harryandben Sun 05-Dec-10 00:24:25

Goblin, then it was probably a religious thing, kids not always able to explain to one another! thanks x

narkypuffin Sun 05-Dec-10 00:26:46

My muslim friends at school weren't allowed to set foot in the house of non-muslim friends by their parents.

narkypuffin Sun 05-Dec-10 00:27:00

The girls that is

Mum2harryandben Sun 05-Dec-10 00:27:48

Narky, definatly sounds like a religious thing that the kids could not explain/understand! I will explain to kids now, what it was all about, thanks x

Goblinchild Sun 05-Dec-10 00:28:27

I've had white Exclusive Bretheren in class, not allowed to socialise with others not in the sect.

Mum2harryandben Sun 05-Dec-10 00:29:50

Goblin not sure exactly what you mean?

narkypuffin Sun 05-Dec-10 00:34:59


Goblinchild Sun 05-Dec-10 00:36:35

That some groups aren't comfortable with the loss of control they face if their child goes to an unknown person's house.
The Brethren are a very strict Christian sect.

Goblinchild Sun 05-Dec-10 00:37:19

NP, they left the Plymouth lot because they weren't strict enough. smile

curlymama Sun 05-Dec-10 00:41:45

When I was little one of my Muslim friends wasn't allowed to come to our house because my family isn't Muslim.

Racism works both ways.

magicmummy1 Sun 05-Dec-10 00:53:33

There are several muslim children of asian descent in dd's class, and another from an arab family. They all socialise with non-muslims outside school, and one of them is regularly at our house!

However, there is a little girl from a very strict christian family who isn't allowed to play outside school with children who don't attend her church. For whatever reason, some people don't like to mix outside their own circle. Pity, because it's the children that suffer.

Mum2harryandben Sun 05-Dec-10 00:59:02

It sounds more like a religion thing than a race thing, from what other posters are saying!

ccpccp Sun 05-Dec-10 09:46:16

No race is more 'racist' than any other. Its just that in a predominantly white country we are the only ones who ever get pulled up on it.

The more multicultural the UK gets, the more you will see other cultures showing their racism. Some of that will be against white people.

Firawla Sun 05-Dec-10 22:03:31

I wouldn't be surprised about it, some people are like that within every community and it definitely exists within the muslim community, it is more of a religion thing than race, if it was a white muslim house i think they would have more chance of allowing it, although alot of parents are strict and wouldnt allow their dc to sleep over @ anyone's house whatsoever so it could be they said that reason but even another asian house they wont allow them to stay over anyway.
But yes there is racism within the asian and muslim community, you should see the issues we have with marriage if you want to marry someone from a different background (muslims but from a different country or area) - in some families this is like omg scandal, no way! and we have a lot of struggle with it. but its more with the elder people, the younger generations are much better and more open, generally. and those who dont live in mixed communities but only with their own people, they just dont have much experience of others so it becomes like a fear of the unknown type thing, and sometimes percieving that all non muslims are against us etc - i know alot of people with this attitude, and it does take time to wear it down.
and its not everyone in our community whos like this so wouldnt let it put u off inviting muslim children again or anything

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