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The genetic lottery

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Papergirl1968 Tue 22-Oct-19 22:50:22

Looking at the pic of Amanda Holden in the Daily Mail today, with her husband and kids, it struck me that the whole family is very good looking.
I don’t like Amanda (although sorry to hear she’s broken her leg) and her husband isn’t my cup of tea, but they’re admittedly both attractive and their daughters have clearly struck the genetic lottery. With two such good looking parents it’s no surprise they’re both very pretty girls.
Having said that, I’d still rather not have Amanda for a mum and that my own parents were very ordinary.
I’m sorry I can’t do links so will add a pic instead!

cactusthief Tue 22-Oct-19 22:54:56

I don't really follow why you are trying to say. 2 attractive (in your opinion) people have children and you think they have won a lottery of looks confused

cactusthief Tue 22-Oct-19 22:55:11

*what you are trying to say

Finfintytint Tue 22-Oct-19 22:56:33

Not sure what your point is. Would you feel better if they were all fugly?

FlibbertyGiblets Tue 22-Oct-19 22:59:59


How can you "not like" someone you don't know? She's not going to be sobbing into her cushions btw.

You're being weird about the appearance of a successful woman's children. Creepy.

isitfridayyet1 Tue 22-Oct-19 23:01:11


OutOutBriefCandle Tue 22-Oct-19 23:02:19

We have a conventional idea of what is 'good looking' (which might have - and actually would have been - different a few hundred years ago). Two 'good looking' parents will usually have a 'good looking' kid. Cleopatra was considered the most beautiful woman in the world; if you google reconstructions of her, you might see what I mean.

Either be your own person, or a slave to the time. (I advise the former!)

Finfintytint Tue 22-Oct-19 23:02:23

Has Amanda offered to be your mum then?

Papergirl1968 Tue 22-Oct-19 23:26:14

Oh ffs, I’m just saying that with two good looking parents, it’s no surprise the kids are good looking too.
I find it quite offensive to be called creepy, actually. I’m a straight woman in my 50s with two daughters of my own who I consider pretty gorgeous. You make me sound like a pervy old man.
I don’t know, Amanda, no, but I’m just saying I don’t particularly like what I’ve seen of her, just like some people don’t like Meghan Markle,
Catherine Zeta Jones, Holly Willoughby or any number of famous people they’ve never met.

LemonMousse Tue 22-Oct-19 23:26:41

Me and my OH are very 'average' looking but have three very good looking children.
Not just me thinking that - it has been commented on by many people.
I now suspect that my husband has slept with Amanda Holden!

Papergirl1968 Tue 22-Oct-19 23:30:28

Actually those are all women so in the interests of equality I’ll give...oh, let’s say, Daniel Craig, Matt Baker and Jeffrey Archer as examples of famous people not everyone may like too.

Finfintytint Tue 22-Oct-19 23:33:18

Lol. You’re the only one sounding like a pervy old man. Why are you judging one woman, one husband and a couple of children based purely on their looks? Pretty sure there may be some humans involved here.

OooErMissus Tue 22-Oct-19 23:37:50

It interesting that some people seem to strike the genetic lottery. Assuming by 'genetic lottery', we mean good looks, and not stunning intellect, physical ability, or peak health, of course.

The Clements twins, for example, are exquisite looking (possibly compounded by the fact that they're twins), while their parents are 'just' good looking.

It's like they're a vastly improved version of their parents' combined genes.

Papergirl1968 Tue 22-Oct-19 23:52:51

Oh give it a rest Fin.
I don’t judge people on their looks. I was unlucky myself in the genetic lottery. My dds are adopted, and I do sometimes muse on how different they’d look if I’d given birth to them.
I also muse on how good looking people generally have an easier ride in life. I think it’s been proved that they’re more likely to succeed at a job interview over a plainer candidate for example.
Amanda’s younger daughter interviewed Angeline Jolie, I think it was, and she’s only about seven, so I guess that got me thinking she was bound to end up a tv presenter. Again easier for kids with a parent in showbiz.
Meanwhile my oldest dd, having left school with a couple of GCSEs and then having a baby at 17, has just started an apprenticeship and I’m so proud of her, of both of them actually, for overcoming an awful start in life.
I wasn’t trying to be nasty or controversial and certainly not creepy, and I really think you should apologise for your comment.
However don’t bother. An apology that has to be asked for is worthless.

SpiderCharlotte Tue 22-Oct-19 23:54:30

Okaaaaaaay ...

Papergirl1968 Tue 22-Oct-19 23:55:26

Oh and that goes for Flibberty too.
Not nice, the comments from both of you.

Papergirl1968 Tue 22-Oct-19 23:58:56

I hadn’t heard of the Clements twins OooEr but yes, they’re very pretty.

Finfintytint Wed 23-Oct-19 00:00:36

Oh don’t be silly. You are hung up about the supposed genetic lottery. Not going to apologise. Your initial statement suggests you are hung up on looks. Just relax.

OooErMissus Wed 23-Oct-19 00:04:03

I think there's an interesting discussion to be had on the topic, but clearly referring to actual people in the OP - and Amanda Holden no less! - means the thread will get completely derailed....

fallfallfall Wed 23-Oct-19 00:06:00

my mom made it very clear to consider genetics when marrying and having children.
for some people it's a priority and works out well.
her list included height consideration, all immediate family illnesses, teeth, skin and hair plus much more.

thewomanontheshore Wed 23-Oct-19 00:07:02

The girls in the photo aren't good looking.

Finfintytint Wed 23-Oct-19 00:07:23

Yes. Had to look up who Amanda Holden was. Why judge a woman based on looks?

U2HasTheEdge Wed 23-Oct-19 00:32:02

The girls in the photo aren't good looking.

They are young girls, was there really any need to type that?

OooErMissus Wed 23-Oct-19 00:37:05

* The girls in the photo aren't good looking*

What are they then? Plain? Ugly?

You sad little person!

AthollPlace Wed 23-Oct-19 00:47:08

One of my biggest regrets is that I didn’t have the opportunity to have DC with someone better looking. DH is a good person but has below average looks. I know how much of a difference good looks can make to your life and I’m praying DC got a freak combo of genes that results in beauty.

GrumpyHoonMain Wed 23-Oct-19 00:47:10

That photo has at least 3 filters on it. Am not convinced they did win the genetic lottery - but am sure their parents’ money definitely helped their looks. Anyone can be beautiful when they can get all the dental care / teen facials / hair and make up / styling they need at the drop of a hat.

HUZZAH212 Wed 23-Oct-19 00:52:01

Well I think I've got to say with Amanda's previous track record for husbands and partners, she's definately not hung up on the ''must be good looking' criteria. Which is fair play to her I guess.

U2HasTheEdge Wed 23-Oct-19 01:15:04

Plenty of average looking people have beautiful children.

And plenty of beautiful people have average looking children.

One of my biggest regrets is that I didn’t have the opportunity to have DC with someone better looking.

Blimey! You only had children with your husband because you didn't get a chance with anyone else?

MissLadyM Wed 23-Oct-19 01:17:59

What a pointless post. You must have really low self esteem. The husband looks like a crab and A-Ho is like a plastic blow up doll!

bowtieandheels Wed 23-Oct-19 01:29:07

Pre surgery Amanda is (in my opinion) a very plain woman. Could never understand the fuss about her at all.

AthollPlace Wed 23-Oct-19 02:01:20

Blimey! You only had children with your husband because you didn't get a chance with anyone else?
Being good husband and father material isn’t the same as having good genes. In terms of genetic material I wouldn’t have picked DH as a father for my child. It would have been better if I’d got pregnant to some good looking deadbeat then DH became the step-parent.

CilantroChili Wed 23-Oct-19 02:12:46

Look at her face floating above her orange neck

EmpressJewel Wed 23-Oct-19 08:16:14

They are all dressed up in the picture. Have a look at other pictures of the family.

Waxonwaxoff0 Wed 23-Oct-19 08:18:34

I personally don't think Amanda Holden is attractive, or her husband. Beautiful girls though.

My DS is a lot better looking than exh and I, although obviously I'm biased!

BeanBag7 Wed 23-Oct-19 08:26:07

I don't think any of them are astonishingly beautiful. It is generally suggested that very rich people are more attractive because they have the money to spend on healthy food, dieticians, cosmetics, personal trainers etc.

TartanTexan Wed 23-Oct-19 08:54:31

I know a very wealthy family that have a particular interest, something that makes them unusual & they are photographed a lot on insta, videoed, press etc.

Whilst their children are perfectly attractive I was stunned to see one daughter and her mother in the flesh recently, she looked nothing like she appears in their publicity shots and videos.

I was left wondering what they do to appear so much better looking & glossier? They look like different people.

x2boys Wed 23-Oct-19 09:56:55

I.think the girls are pretty enough , but no prettier than lots of other young girls and as others have said money helps .

DisgraceToTheYChromosome Wed 23-Oct-19 10:05:10

The real win in the genetic lottery is not getting cancer until you're past 70. Add to that a mild auto immune disorder for fighting parasites, AB+ blood group to fend off dysentery, freedom from congenital heart failure and being really good at hiding from the enemy snipers. My grandfather had all of these. Apart from the blood group and the snipers, so do I. My face is about average, but my grandson is stunning.

Papergirl1968 Wed 23-Oct-19 10:57:09

You’re absolutely right, Disgrace.
Wise words.

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