Hooray, I've done it! The new thread is here Thought I'd get a bit poetic, hope you like it

See you there x

Hello!

How is everyone this morning? Was thinking in the middle of the night (as you do ) that we need to start a new thread, as we've only got a couple of posts left on this one and one needs to be for a link to the next one... If no-one's done it in the next couple of days then I shall wrack my brains to think of a nice way to start another one

Can't be long as mum and aunt still here and they're off to the airport this arvo. Things have been a bit crazy here so am looking forward to a break!

Becky Poor you re heartburn - have you tried the Gaviscon Double Action tablets? They were a lifesaver when I was expecting ds. Sounds like you had a lovely time in Brixham - where is that? You are brave going without the ds's, bet you couldn't stop thinking about them.

m2o Thanks re kitten Not sure what she is as got her from parents of kids in my class - there were four in her litter, and all different colours, so am thinking they're just a bit of a mixture. When you say cobby do you mean heavy? Cobby in horse terms would mean something that had a bit more bone to it, is that the same? She is a cutey though, and since we have changed her diet and got rid of her worms she is doing brilliantly!

Have to dash, love to you two Poppy and Nandos too...

Have a think re the new thead please - I am so unimaginative when it comes to things like this

Hi all

mbm your symptoms are strange. I hope you are feeling better now your AF has been.

I can't wait to see a pic of your new kitty

I've just got back from 4 days in Brixham with my mum, sister, and brother to celebrate my mum's 70th birthday. We had a lovely time but I missed DS1 and DS2 so much. I hadn't been away from there for more than 1 night before and this was 3 nights. I want to move to Brixham now but DH isn't convinced!

I've got the most horrendous heartburn now. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. I can't eat anything without getting it.

Hello- flying visit as usual!!!!

mbm Is she a british short hair?? She is gorgeous!! Looks very cobby.

You need to put her in a cage/wire pen to introduce her to the dogs. That way they can sniff her and see her but she won't get hurt and reassure the dogs loads and give treats while they are being calm and not barking. Take it slow.

Have just put a little pic on my profile, yay!

Hello

Just another quick one from me! Just got in from the cinema - a rare treat as mum and dad offered to babysit

Becky Can't believe you can feel your bean kicking That's amazing! It only seems like yesterday you said you were pg! Hope you feel a little less stiff in the morning - bet you were brill at the facepainting, was it difficult? I could never do anything like that... I have many talents but artistic skill is not one of them
My AF started properly on Friday, which is fine as it would've been pretty awful timing what with getting the kitten, it being the start of the summer hols and my parents staying... It's been really odd with the sickness - it only lessened yesterday when AF became really heavy and I was in loads of pain. I have been truly feeling awful, just like having morning sickness, and even today, although it's better, it's defo still there. I think there's something not right, but dh thinks it's been another cp, although I don't agree with him. Normally I know when I've conceived, and I don't think I did. Is v odd though, and each cycle things are getting worse.

Nandos Lots of movement sounds like a good thing, and I don't think ds moved less towards the end. It all sounds pretty normal to me, and he must be getting cramped in there by now Hope you managed to get an early night, and feel a bit less tired today!

m2o and Poppy Hello! How are you both? Hope you're doing okay and have had nice weekends?

Our little kitty is settling in fine - will post a pic on my profile when I get a min. Have decided to call her Dusty as she is grey but looks like she is coated with white dust on her face and a patch of brown on her back. She's a plucky little thing, and has no fear of ds - they've been playing together loads, and ds is so cute with her! Off to vets tomorrow for check-up and first vacc's. Anybody got any tips on introducing cats and dogs?? One of our dogs has seen Dusty and went ballistic - a 25kg dog going crazy is difficult to control and I'm terrified that she's going to hurt her if we put them together... The other dog just sniffed at her a bit and was fine bless her, but Dusty was hissing and making very odd noises. She must've been terrified!

Off to bed now xxx

Poppy so sorry for you being mistreated by your friend. She seems to be approaching the problem in a very childish way. I don't really know what to suggest. I'd probably just ignore her or send her a email or something to try to explain things from your side (but that's just me - I'm rubbish at confrontations).

mbm have you not done a test yet? Your symptoms sounds a bit strange - you do tend to get sickness quite early on normally, don't you with pregnancy?

Nandos I know how you feel! The last weeks are quite hard when you just want to have your baby and get your body back to normal!

The little bean inside me is kicking me now - all the time it feels like. It particularly likes food!

I had to do facepainting for three hours yesterday at DS1's school summer fayre. It nearly did me in! I woke up really stiff today and my left arm was killing me from painting for three hours. But it was fun

Better go - making fish pie for the DSs.

mbm hope your kitty is lovely and m2o I hope you are ok

hi everyone..

Poppy hmm thats not very nice of your friend to say such things if it was untrue i think even if u respond to her texts/msgs, it wouldnt be the same friendship as last time iykwim..
MBM if i were you now, i would have taken my leftover pee stick and test on it now since its CD35 already..
btw am jealous of u getting a kitten! i lurve kitties..why do u all have cats n kittens lol!! i want one..or two badly but family and hubby not so interested so cant keep them even though they love cats but to them, cats stink maybe we dont put enough soap on them or something when bathing them lol
hope everyone else, becky and M2O are doing fine
as for me, i find it a bit weird as most of the women on MN says in late preg baby tends to move less often due to lack of space but mine seems to be hyper active nowadays and its hurting a lot hes trying to push his legs up to my ribs and kidneys for more space..
is that normal??
anywayz i am off to zzzz land as have been out early n gone home late past two days and legs are aching so much..
goodnite everybodyy

Hi All!

Poppy Rant on here as much as you like, that's what we're here for Things like that can be very upsetting, I hope you feel better about it soon. Do you think she realises she's upset you? also re AF. Have you got over your colds?

m2o, Becky and Nandos How are you all?

Have to be quick as naked ds is waiting for me to take out a bucket of water into the garden - he's standing in the paddling pool looking hopeful Its just filling now...

Having another confusing month here - am on CD35 and think AF's due Saturday/Sunday time. However, have been feeling sick for the last week, getting worse each day, but think AF might now have started. I don't feel pg, but this sickness is doing my head in. Am bloated too. Am wondering what's going on! Got my appt soon though, so will be able to bore new doctor silly with my list of questions

Better go as ds waiting... Sorry re not being on much - school finishes tomorrow and I've been out/away quite a bit. Busy busy busy!

Be back on soon!

ps Getting my kitten tomorrow, and my parents are arriving to stay too, hooray!

Oh MBM Take That I am soooooo jealous I like them even better now I am old!

nandos 35 wks omgoodness how time flies. You must be so excited. You will have so much fun when the little one arrives.

becky I can't believe you are half way there! It seems to have gone in very quickly - well at least to us virtual onlookers

I am quite pissed off just now. Am v premenstrual which is not helping and also making me feel a little disappointed "again" although to be honest with the state of dh and I with our vile colds last month there wasn't really much of a chance anyway!

Also one of my friends had a go at me in public last week saying I was talking about her behind her back. It is a long story and totally untrue but upsetting anyway. She sent me a vile text which I tried to respond to nicely but then 2 days later while we were taking our ds's to taekwondo she was coming in behind me, poked me in the back and started having a go. I explained that she was all wrong and eventually left but I was raging mad. In the past I have done so much to help her as she has lots of probs but obviously after all these years she cannot trust me and that I find very hard to take. She has since texted me and left messages on my phone but so far I haven't repsonded as I am at a loss as what to say. Anyway sorry for the huge ramble! I'm sure you all have better things to do than listen to this!!!!

lv poppy xxx

Just another quick one from me, sorry! Have just got back from UK about 40 mins ago, and ds is now in bed

Yes Becky I did go to Take That on Friday night and oh my goodness me it was AMAZING Have you seen the pics on my FB page? One of my friends took them but tagged me so you should be able to see How are you doing?

Nandos Wow, 35 weeks Try not to worry as everything WILL come together in time...

Poppy How are you?

m2o how's the pain? Hope it's not too bad...

Will try to come back on tomorrow

xxx

mbm have you seen Take That yet? How was it?

Hello Nandos! 35 weeks! Nearly there. Ohhh it is exciting and you'll be a great mum I am sure.

hello all!

Becky! u r 20 wks now..how time flies! good to know everything is ok..just halfway more to go
am 35 wks already n dreading it..the labour, baby stuffs, finance etc..i want baby here right now but not so soon cos' i havent pack anything, no cot, havent washed baby clothes, no pram am i gonna be a bad mom?? still bz working my bum out which is crazy.
dh not here maybe thats why no motivation to push me to do the necessary things hes coming only mid-end july which is very close to my due date, hope he'll be here on time..

hope everyone else is well..

Boo! Hope everyone is well. I'm just about to make everyone some Heinz spaghetti on toast for lunch.

V quick one to say hello to you all and well done to Becky on a fab scan - hooray

Will be back on tomorrow - have got PIL's staying at mo...

Hope you're all okay!

Hello everyone

I've had my 20-week scan today and all is ok, thank goodness, and the flavour is...I don't know because you have to pay here for an extra scan for flavour determination! But the main thing is the little bean appears to be in working order. It was quite amazing seeing its little heart beating and being told 'that's the stomach', 'that's its kidneys' etc.

Hi there Nandos we've missed you! You must be getting soooo close now. Sorry to hear about your hospital nightmare. Not nice.

Poppy hope your busy weekend went well

mbm how are you? Soon time to get your kitty! I think it is a brilliant idea. Dogs and cats sometimes get along together surprisingly well (better than two cats!).

m2o have your little furry bundles settled down a bit yet?

We've had some problems with DS1 getting picked on by some boys in his class: kicking, pinching, pulling his trousers down, so I've been busy worrying about him. His classteacher is aware and has spoken to the parents of the boys so hopefully it won't come to anything but it was heartbreaking to hear him telling me what had been happening to him

Better go - bathtime for DSs! Hope everyone is well

hello everyone!
am soo sorry abt not posting lately..been a busy month for me
hope all of you are doing fine..including your cats
dh just left a week ago and he was here for abt 10 days so was spending time with him and buying some stuffs for the baby.
also got a new wardrobe so am clearing all my old stuffs/clothes, junks etc but still got loads to fold and iron.
oh and abt the hospital check-up it was really horrible 2 wks back cos' i had waited for more than 3 hours and when i asked the nurse and the receptionist, they said they would call my name soon but didnt till i went back to work, reached there and an hour later a nurse called my mobile and asked me if im outside the doc's room lol. i said im outside the hospital and had waited so long so i left. got another appt few days back went to see the doc and another nurse insensitively asked me if i left without letting them know and bla bla. really pissed off with the service cos' its not free check-up and still i have to wait bloody long for it..
ok finished ranting..anywayz baby is doing fine and he weighs around 1.8kg (abt 4 pounds) 2 weeks back
i have to go to bed soon as its past 12mn here and got to wake up learly tmr will try to post more whenever im free..
take care all ..

Boo too!
I am loving hearing all the cat chat especially introducing new cats to the house. My cat is 13.5 yrs old and there is nooooo way now she would allow any young pretenders into her home she is too old and grumpy (like her mummy!)

Just getting organised for mum's bday on sat. She has been away all week on a trip to France visiting battlefields etc.(school trip btw - she is a teacher) and they are now in Paris and finishing off by going to Disneyland Paris. It is also her towns galaday on sat and she normally has all the family over and in typical mum madness she has decided to continue on with this tradition even though she won't be back till the afternoon so my poor dad and brother have to clean house, buy food and make buffet etc. I have been left with pressie shopping So this week has been a bit manic esp as there have been things on at ds's school etc.

Anyway hope you are all well - time for me to feed the moggy and head to bed.

ps nandos hope you are ok and still blooming

xxx

Boo! To you too

How are you all?

Just on the way to put ds to bed, but wanted to say hello, and that I think we might be getting a kitten! Any tips anyone? Am worried about introducing her to the dogs... If dh doesn't change his mind (again) we'll be getting her on the 2nd July, am so excited!

Have to dash, but that is my exciting news

Boo everyone!

Hmmm. I'm not sure. Cats can be quite boistrous in their play. If the vet says leave them then I'd probably just try my best to do that! I think the fact they sometimes sleep together is a good sign and from what you descirbe there is affection there. Liquorice and Aki would never ever sleep next to each other! They keep their distance from each other.

The cleaning this is supposed to be a good sign. That means Evie feels maternal towards Meg. Perhaps they are acting like mother and daughter?

Better go - get DS2 up and get DS1 from school!

Hope everyone is ok

I think I need to just make it clear that when Evie has Meg pinned down and is biting at her it LOOKS nasty but we are not sure if it is or not.

Becky My main problem is, I just don't know what to make of what they are doing!!! This is a typical scenario.....

They meet face to face, rub up eachother and Evie will clean Megs ears. Meg will then get excited and jump up Evie and paw at her. Evie gets annoyed and paws back. Meg paws at Evie some more. Then Evie pounces and knocks Meg to the floor. She then bites/gnaws/chews at Megs neck and front legs. Meg doesn't cry or squeal- she just bites back and pushes Evie away and gets up. They both have a clean then start to chase/pounce and paw at eachother. Besides all this they will sleep together occasionally, Evie is always trying to clean Meg and they eat togther with no problems. Have spoken to the vet and told her all this and she says it is a case of play and dominance and they need to be left alone to sort it out. Its the biting that REALLY worries me although there is never any marks and Meg rarely murmers when Evie is doing it.

What do I do??? Would you be concerned or is it totally normal???

m2o I've seen your distressed posts on FB and have been thinking about what to advise you but I really don't know what to say as our cats get on now and didn't really have any proper cat fights as such - they used to chase each other up and down the stairs and Liquorice would wait until Aki had hidden behind something and guard it so she couldn't get out but that's all really. At first the older one, Liquorice, was a bit hostile but not to the extent of Evie. Liquorice is quite a passive cat generally (for her being hostile is just a bit too much effort - she prefers a quiet life and a good 22 hours sleep a day). Have you tried posting for advice on the pets section on MN? I am sure I did when we got Aki but I can't remember the advice various people gave. Sorry not to be more help

I wonder where Nandos is too. Hello Nandos!!!

Glad to hear that I am not the only one with urgent toilet issues Its so embarrassing but mine is totally around ov time- rest of the time I am ok.

MBM- the pain that I have has only been since the MC. The first time I ov'd after the MC I thought I had slipped a disc- the pain was horrendous and I just didnt know what was going on. I kind of put it down to things settling down and put it to the back of my mind then it happened the month after too. I knew it wasnt normal for me as I had never suffered ov pain before- perhaps a little niggle but nothing like the agony it was leaving me in for those 2 cycles after the MC. Luckily after those 2 cycles I spoke to my GP and he immediatly put me on the pill for 6 months as he recognised endo symptoms and said that it was best to prevent any further damage. After 6 months on the pill I had my laparoscopy which confirmed mild endo round my left side (prob would have established itself a lot worse unless I had had those 6 months on the pill) and a 'filmy adhesion' between my bowel and left tube and ovary. In fact the cons couldnt see my left ovary properly because my bowel was just stuck. But my tube is clear which is good news- god only knows the mess I would have been in if my GP hadnt acted so quickly and put me on the pill, the constant bleeding in that area would have done more damage. Since I came off the pill in Dec the ovulation pain has returned, sex is painful midcycle and my bowels are very painful- sometimes I cant sit down because it feels like someone is sticking a sword up my bottom that is something I could only say here!!!! BUT on the bright side, the right side is fine and something can be done. The cons at CRM suggested laser surgery and corrective surgery on the adhesion so there is some hope there. only 9 days to go and we will know what is happening!!! CAN'T WAIT!!!!! Sorry is I have said all this before but had to go through it all again cos just telling part of the story won't make sense!!! I should just cut and paste!!

becky I need to know all about how you got your cats to get on please!!!! write it all here cos we are having a nightmare with playing/fighting (can't tell which is which!!) and I need your help. Sorry for the me me me- hope you are ok!!!!

poppyhope you are well chick.

Bit worried about nandos hope she is ok?? Was she going away??? Is that why we haven't heard??? Sorry if she has said this before but does she live in England?? she is such a jetsetter I dont know!

Love to all xxx hope you are having a gpood weekend

Hi ladies
Just a quick one from me!
Have spent the last few nights helping ds (ie making for him) a model of a bus. They have been learning about transport at school and visited the transport museum in Glasgow this week. Right up ds's street. We have just finished decorating it now and he is being "jammied" as we speak. The only snag is they have to stand up and describe how it was made but most of the other mums have been modelling planes, buses, cars etc this week as well

becky poor you with ulcers they are truly vile. I have been getting loads of them just now and had blood test done to see if there was a cause but so far nowt!!!

mbm hope your appt with specialist is useful. Your health system sounds great!

nandos how are you?

M2o (((hugs))) for all that pain. No-one deserves that.

Better go as my dh and ds are rutting upstairs and I need to go and intervene xxx

Hi everyone

I can also relate to the 20 second warning. In fact it makes me slightly nervous when we are out in town or something if I know I am more than 20 seconds from the toilet! I thought this was just me who suffered in this way!!!! If I have a tummy bug it is worse and I get about 2 seconds - no time at all - hell. TMI I know but I wasn't like this before having DS1 at all.

I have my fingers crossed for babies for you all too - for all of you. I feel bad that I was the 'lucky' one and I already have two children - I am so greedy and selfish - I'm so sorry guys I wish you all were pregnant too. I wish I could make it happen for you all. I'd do anything I could if I could make it happen.

mbm I'm not going to find out the sex. You have to pay £50 here for an extra scan if you want to find out anyway and anyway, surprises are good! I didn't find out with the DSs. I have no gut feeling so far either way. We'll see Three boys would be a handful and think of all those hormones when they are teenagers - crumbs - and the state of the toilet with their weewee! It's bad enough now!!!!! My twenty-week scan is 24 June so not long now.

I'm having a nightmare work week this week - testing a CD-Rom for English Language Learning called Happy House which the DSs love because it is full of games and songs. But it is making me so stressed that I have a horrible mouth ulcer under my tongue and I can only grunt at poor DS2. Reading stories to him really hurts

Better get back to work...then pick up DS1 from art club after school.

I hope you are all well and happy.

Is there...

Hi m2o So sorry to hear that the pain is so bad - I read your post on Sunday night, but not had time to write anything really since then. Have been thinking of you... What are they going to do? I there anything that can be done to improve it? Sorry if you've already gone over this on this thread, but my memory is crap.
Can totally relate to the 20 second loo warning - I get that sometimes too If I have to go, I HAVE to go like now, and have been known to stand outside toilets doing lamaze breathing whilst bent double and sweating if the toilet is occupied. Is truly awful
The guy I'm seeing in July is also an endo specialist - if you get no joy in the UK maybe you should come over here Re being private - the system is completely different here, and you have to pay for every appointment, even if it's just the GP. Everyone has health insurance and so the fee's are reimbursed at least in part by the insurance company. I like to think of it as a big savings account really - pay all these docs my money and when I send the slips in (you have up to two years) you get the money back Last time I got about 500 Euro's back coz had waited for ages!
It's also really good coz you can go to see whoever you like, you don't have to be referred or get a letter from your GP. In fact my GP has to rely on me to tell her who I've been seeing. The patient is much more in control. I think this health system is great
What were your first symptoms of endo if you don't mind me asking? Someone else on MN suggested that I could have it, so am going to make sure I mention possible symptoms to specialist, but am pretty sure I dont have it.
The pain I get is v different to what yours sounds like, and is no way near as bad. It must be so upsetting for you to be in so much pain that you can't do the necessary. Would you consider doing IVF? Would that be an option?

Poppy your gala day sounds lovely, very countryfied Those sorts of days are fab when you're a kid - many of my best memories from being little are to do with rain and clutching warm foods Did you and ds have a lovely time? Wow re the house, it sounds spectacular!
re AF and cramps. I have my fingers crossed for you and m2o that you get lucky soon, and for me too of course It's just taking too long now isn't it. Do you ever feel like you want to be done with this 'waiting' part of your life? I just want to get pg, have a healthy baby and get on with the other things that I want to do. Hopefully that'll be the case for all of us soon. Fingers crossed anyway...

Becky How are you? I am seconding m2o's request to know if you're going to find out the sex! I reckon you'll have another boy! Three boys, now that'd be a handful

Nandos how are you too? How's the bump doing? Only a couple of months to go now Are you staying where you are till after the birth?

Better go to bed now as working in the morning, but love to you all as always xxx

Its been lousy all weekend here!! Although I am glad to stay in with my new kitten at the mo Who needs kids when you can have delicious yummy bundles of fur??!!!

Also, pain has been immense this week cos I have been ovulating- in fact too painful to do colouring which defeats the object How can I get pg like this??!!! My bowels are terribly affected too which is making me REALLY sad- sorry for the TMI but when I need to go i have about 20 seconds notice and am terrified of an accident

CRM appt in 2 weeks though so fingers crossed something will be done.....

poppy that house sounds amazing!!! I nominate Simon for loads of stuff too- cheeky isnt it??!!!!

becky am really looking forward to your 20 weeks scan- will you find out the flavour? I predict a girl.

MBM fingers crossed for mc specialist- will be interesting to see what they suggest. Do you have to go private?

nandos hope you are well chick

Love to all xxxxx

Hello ladies you all sound like you have been doing nice things
I'm exhausted, it was out town galaday yesterday so a very busy few days, tidying, buying in food, getting ds new shoes and then yesterday out most of the day watching procession, going to watch a sheepdog display in showpark (in heavy rain!) and taking ds round all the rides later on. At one point we were being lashed by rain and clutching chips and hot dogs to warm us up!
Ds's friend who stays round corner from us was a rainbow girl and was having her house decorated as The wizard of oz, so I volunteered dh to help with the work. They went down trad route and had to have spruce arch and window frames. Then the entire front of house had a wooden frame attached and then they built a castle onto that. It was amazing and they won first prize. The parents have spent a bomb and months of work so it was well deserved.

Am resting today as feet very sore with all the walking yest. Dh has taken ds out as my AF has arrived and got quite bad cramps Quite nice having a bit of quiet just now though. Hopefully be more perky whn they get back!!!

Oooh tell you what Becky how about we do a swap? You can have all the crumble that I had planned and I'll gladly eat your Easter eggs

Just a quicky as had lovely news at lunch - our friends that we met have just been through their first round of IVF having tried for 2 and a half years. They're now 8 weeks pregnant! I am so happy for them A little envious of course, but so thrilled! They're coming to dinner in a few weeks, and so I can't wait to talk babies!

Hope you're having a lovely time at your in-laws Becky!

Going to put ds down for his nap now...

ps trouser update - went out with wet legs and waist Not only that but the coat I washed yesterday and presumed would be dry by now was also damp inside when I put it on... If I come down with a cold in the next week or so it's entirely my own fault

mbm I can just picture you standing by the washing machine willing it to hurry up!!

I can't imagine being 'crumbled out'. But then again I am 'Easter Egged' out as we still have two Easter Eggs and I am sick of the sight of them!

The DSs do like going to the parents-in-laws and I like it to because they entertain them and I can have a bit of a rest

Good that you're got an appointment with an MC specialist - I hope they will be able to help. Good luck this month though you never know. Each month is a new month.

Have a good lunch with your DH and DS and visit to your friends and their baby.

Hope Nandos (you must be coming up close to due date soon!), Poppy, and m2o are doing ok. I hope it isn't as wet and miserable where you all are as it is here.

Morning!

Your poor dh having to work on Sunday! And poor you! Hope you have a nice time at the in-laws - do the ds's have lots of fun there?

Haven't made a crumble for...oohh... at least three days DH has announced that he is 'crumbled out', and just when I've perfected my topping too! He has banned me from making crumbles for the foreseeable future, but I don't mind too much as my jeans have been getting tighter by the day

At the mo I'm standing by the washing machine willing it to go lightning speed - me and ds are meeting dh at the golf club for lunch after his round (he was up at 6 this morning ) and I have nothing to wear! Am going to crank up the heating and hope that my trousers dry in time, argh!!! Might be going out wet... Then this arvo we're off to friends who had a prem baby about a month ago. It'll be the first time we're seeing him, bet he'll be tiny!

How's everyone else? Poppy you okay? Nandos how are you feeling? m2o Hope you're okay too...

By the way, I've made an appointment (at last ) to go and see that mc specialist I found out about. It's on the 16th July, so am looking forward to hear what he's got to say. Think there's deffo something going on as i think last month was an anovulatory one. Have stocked up on OPK's for this month in an attempt to find out when/if am ov'ing!

Have a lovely Sunday all! We only have 34 messages left on this thread before we must move Who's going to come up with some fab name for the next one? Wonder if that'll take a year to get through too

I'm fine! Not much happening. It's gone cold again and I even put the heating on yesterday. DH has gone to work today so am feeling a bit abandoned as it is a Sunday. We're going to descend on the in-laws for lunch - I need to do the cleaning first

What are you up to? Have you made any delicious crumbles recently??

Hello!!! How are you doing?

It's been very quiet on here recently, think we need to liven things up a little

I'm here

Hellooooooooo??

Anyone there???????

PS Ooh ooh ooh re Take That! I love tenuous links to celebrities You are so going to have to remember which one it was so I can impress my girly friends

Ah Becky You are so lovely and have such a wonderful way of putting things Had just read your post and some colleagues came in and wanted to see a pic of ds, so I showed them and they started saying how precious children are and how they are the best thing in your life. Am sat here struggling not to cry
Right must pull myself together and get back to work...

Really, lots of love to you all - can´t believe it has been a year since we all met. Like Becky said I couldn´t have got through this last year without you all. Although we´ve all had a tough time of it we are so lucky in other ways...

Enjoy the sunshine xxx

Hello everyone!

Poppy big hugs to you. I can't believe it is a year since we were all feeling 'sad and miserable' over in the MC threads and decided to help each other over here and keep each other positive. Those initial weeks were tough, weren't they? I think I've blanked a lot of it out as it is just too painful to remember. It is so hard for you being a year ttcing but try to focus on the fact that something positive has come out of all this: we've all become friends and are still supporting each other and will continue to do so until and beyond our babies come. I couldn't have got through the last year with my sanity intact without you guys. I didn't think I'd get pregnant ever again, every month rolled by, and I then just like that I did so I am sure that it will happen to you too, and mbm and m2o. I really believe that. It'll take you completely by surprise one month, as it did me. Just keep positive, try to enjoy the moment until then, and keep hoping it will happen. It's happened before so it'll happen again.

I know what you mean about the chess on demand though Poppy it is hard. My DH was really feeling that too and at times we just gave up and ended up snapping at each other instead of having nice, relaxing chess matches and all I'd think was 'we've missed the chance now' and feel grumpy.

mbm sorry your DH is poorly hope he is better now and sorry your AF has arrived but lucky you going to see Take That! I can't remember which one but one of them once went out with a girl the year below me at school before he was famous. It wasn't Robbie I know that. I wish I could come too

The sickness has almost gone now, yeah! I am struggling in this heat though and only 16 weeks so hardly hippo standards yet!

Better go get ready to take everyone to school now. Take care all and keep smiling in the sunshine. xxxx.

Hello!

Becky sounds like you had a fab time! Has all the sickness gone now?

Poppy Hasn't it been lovely weather! Glad to hear you've had it up with you too I can completely relate to the year on thing - I really struggled too. People kept randomly asking if I wanted to do something on that particular date, and I knew it rang a bell - when I sat down to figure out what it was it hit me like a ton of bricks. It still hurts doesn't it
You poor thing re your cousin. It's not irrational at all. I think it's entirely normal for you to be angry.
It's tough ttc and failing each month - I've only had 4 months of that, but to have a year must be horrible. Maybe relaxing is the answer, but if you find a way to do that be sure to let me know your secret won't you

AF started for me on Friday, so off we go again. At least I have Take That to look forward to at the end of this month I can't wait!

Nandos How are you feeling? Any better?

m2o Hello lovely How are you doing? Still managing to keep away from MN then - I admire your willpower!

It's been a Bank Holiday here today, and we had lovely things planned, but DH has been poorly and so we stayed home I couldn't even sunbathe as we had a gardener start work on a path today and it didn't feel right that I should be sat there sunning myself while he was slogging his guts out. I managed to have lunch outside though, just hid my chair round the corner and I don't think he saw me

aggghhhh

sorry for doublew post

message vanished into ether and when I put in password again and pressed send somehow 2 messages appeared!!!

Just sums up my day!

Hi all

becky your Wales trip sounds very good imagine being in the sea in May!!!!

It has been hot hot hot here in sunny Scotland for a change and haven't been online for days as we have all been enjoying the sun. Paddling pool has had it's first airing of the year - lets hope it's not the last and I was even forced to put fake tan on my pasty body

Had a bit of a rocky week as last mon was a year to the day of the last mc and obviously not managed to get pg since then and have endured a million blood tests etc etc. All that would have been bad enough but my aunt appeared last week and told us that my crazy cousin who accidentally got pg (19 no job, lives with boyfriends gran etc) is now 22 weeks and found out she is having a boy. I smiled at the time but inside I was irrationally angry. DH thinks I am mad because as he says her life is a car crash and has nothing to do with us but it is still hard. Also dh getting a bit sick of sex on demand and feels "used". Anyhow we cleared things up and he admitted he feels very down as it was anniv of mc and he also feels bad as he hasn't had a lot of work and that is really been bad for his self esteem. Agreed that we both want to keep on trying and perhaps we need to relax a bit as all the ftc is v hard. On the plus side am now cd 24 and pmt symptoms not really appeared yet. Just know I am not pg but hoping my chaotic cycle is normalising again which will prob help matters. Also going for reiki tomorrow so that will be good. Sorry for all the rambling

nandos and mbm amd M2o hope you are all well.

xxx

Hi all

becky your Wales trip sounds very good imagine being in the sea in May!!!!

It has been hot hot hot here in sunny Scotland for a change and haven't been online for days as we have all been enjoying the sun. Paddling pool has had it's first airing of the year - lets hope it's not the last and I was even forced to put fake tan on my pasty body

Had a bit of a rocky week as last mon was a year to the day of the last mc and obviously not managed to get pg since then and have endured a million blood tests etc etc. All that would have been bad enough but my aunt appeared last week and told us that my crazy cousin who accidentally got pg (19 no job, lives with boyfriends gran etc) is now 22 weeks and found out she is having a boy. I smiled at the time but inside I was irrationally angry. DH thinks I am mad because as he says her life is a car crash and has nothing to do with us but it is still hard. Also dh getting a bit sick of sex on demand and feels "used". Anyhow we cleared things up and he admitted he feels very down as it was anniv of mc and he also feels bad as he hasn't had a lot of work and that is really been bad for his self esteem. Agreed that we both want to keep on trying and perhaps we need to relax a bit as all the ftc is v hard. On the plus side am now cd 24 and pmt symptoms not really appeared yet. Just know I am not pg but hoping my chaotic cycle is normalising again which will prob help matters. Also going for reiki tomorrow so that will be good. Sorry for all the rambling

nados and mbm amd M2o hope you are all well.

xxx

Hello everyone! I've just got back from three days in mid-Wales by the sea and it was sooooo hot. I am burnt. I swam in the sea today it was amazing. I even persuaded DS1 to get in the sea too - he loved the big waves. I don't want to go back to real life tomorrow, school, work, cleaning the house, etc. BORING!!!! I hope you have all had a good time in the sun. It has been an amazingly hot weekend, at least in Wales it was

Hi girls

How are you all? Sorry not been on for so long, think it is a record for me actually Got back Sunday night and ds been poorly since, and been back at work, so now just grabbing a min while supper's cooking!

Becky 15 weeks My goodness me that's zoomed by! Did you manage to get the IO dress? What's it like? Tis very exciting that you're getting maternity stuff!

Nandos Poor you being ill It's horrible if you're ill when you're pg. Hope you're feeling better? Please don't worry re your bump, one of my friends got to full term and only looked about 4 months - I think it was her posture. She was pg at the same time as me with ds and I remember standing there trying different positions in the mirror (ie shoulders hunched/unhunched, sticking bum out/in etc) and I managed to make my bump look like hers. She had the same size bump with her second pregnancy and managed to pop out 7 pounders both times!

Poppy and m2o how are you both? I forgot to go back a page to look at your last posts before I started writing this so can't remember much of what you wrote, sorry! I remember thinking that O's room sounds gorgeous though m2o when I read it quickly over the w/end!

Hope you're all okay and had good bank holiday weekends? It wasn't a BH here, but we get one next Monday instead so am v looking forward to that!

hi everyone,
sorry for not posting
have been ill for a week now just starting to recover from cough and flu, although fever is gone now

hope u MBM,Becky, Poppy and M2O are ok

all the coughing made me kind of pity the child inside me during my worst day, i took the meds at 2am and baby keep moving around so much that i end up puking everything out again at 3am..maybe he figues med is too yucky to be absorbed while hes sleeping

Becky 15 weeks! thats so fast that i thought just a mth ago u fell pregnant
am now in the 30th week of pregnancy but tummy is still like im just 4mths pregnant ..hmm is that good or bad??
i feel like with the earlier MS which last for mths and now down with fever n cough, i might be having a small frail baby

anywayz am off the take a bit of rest for now...hope to post more soon..

take care ..

m2o Olivia's bedroom sounds totally lush - I want it!!! I love Kath Kitson stuff. You can talk to me about day bed cushions anytime you like! I love decorating and filling the house with cushions an things (DH thinks we have too many!). It is funny I didn't realise you were the only one with a girl until now either.

All my facebook updates seem to be about food! One 'friend' (as in not a close friend in real life) has twigged that I am preggers so the signs must be slipping through.

I am going to be here holding everyone's hand until we all have babies, that is guaranteed.

I do feel less sick these days, 15 weeks pregnant now, which is good. I've just dug out my old maternity clothes and treated myself to a few other bits on the internet. I'm bidding on in ebay for an Isabella Oliver dress for a wedding in July. Well, DH is bidding for me as I am crap at ebay.

Well have a nice day everyone - hope it is nice and warm in Scotland poppy. It is lovely in Shropshire today

Hi all

M2O your dd's bedroom sounds fabby. Maybe interior design could be the next step My ds's best friend is a wee girl who lives 2 doors up and she is very girly and loves all things pink, frilly and sparkly and has a million soft toys Last year during the summer hols she made my ds "marry" her and we had to find rings etc. but she is not daft as what she was really after was pressies! My ds spent all summer being her husband! Now she fancies going on a "date" to the cinema or swing park can tell they are only 6!!!!!

Hope you are all getting dry weather. It's been very mixed here in Scotland and today am sitting with heating on in May!!!
Have had a few chess matches but tonight am having wine and no chess as we are both shattered. Probably miss the crucial night as today is day 15. Would be just my luck

Tomorrow dh is going hillwalking with my db and ds has a boys brigade parade in afternoon so bring on sunshine!!!

my grammar is shite. and my spelling. Soz.

Hello you lot!!!!



Hope you are all having a fab BH weekend so far???? Mine has been slightly gash up to now- been at work and it was HORRENDOUS. 3 people supplying drugs to a mega busy busy massive hospital and me being one of them and also the senior - I am totally out of practise with dispensing and felt ever so slightly out of my depth and judging by the fact that we left at 5.30pm when we were supposed to go at 3 I dont think I did terribly well!!! Oh well- get a day off in the week for my trouble but will spend the next couple of days worrying whether I have made any mistakes! Is it worth it??? erm no!!!!

Have finished decorating Olivias bedroom today and it looks absolutely lush!!! We have gone very over the top girly (just realised that none of you have girls??? How weird!!! I am the only girl mummy here! Is Nandos having a girl?? Hope so- need someone to discuss day bed cushions with...). In short Olivias room is a gorgeous pale dusky pink, white furniture, white wrought iron day bed, Cath Kidston bedclothes, Laura Ashley chintzy curtains, chintzy bunting on one wall and a lobely butterfly capiz chandeliar. It looks absolutely gorgeous and am seriously considering dumping my bed for hers!!! I am so pleased with it. And everything has been bought in sales so sounds/looks very costly but was actually mega cheap- how clever am I???!!!!!

How are you all anyway? Good I hope????

Claire I am a bit miffed at your lack of cycle signs- do you think the 2 CP's have temporarily cocked your cycle up? When mine was a bit dodgy Agnus Castus get everything regular again- may be worth a look. And I would eat a crumble with shit in if it looked tasty enough.........

Becky How are you feeling? Any more sickness? Dont see many pregnancy related updates from you on FB!!! And you are the only person I really want to see them from!!!!

poppy Hope you are ok Well done to your DS for the medal

Nandos Update please!!!!

We may need a new thread soon- any ideas for a title? and as I started this one I need to pass the baton- any takers???? We need the next one to be even luckier- out of the 5 of us 2 have graduated. We need to hold hands tightly till we all do and acheive safe and healthy pregnancies

Hi everyone!

Yeah your DS Poppy.

I hope the chess is going well for everyone

We used to have some rhubarb in our garden in the old house so we miss it here so DH has been buying some - I just love to eat stewed rhubarb with icecream in a bowl. Lovely.

DH is ripping the house apart today. He's trying to sort the wireless nextwork system out or something I don't know. I just let him get on with it. And he tells me he's bought something on Ebay from Llaneli which is at least 3 hours away from here and needs to collect it!

Hope everyone is enjoying yet another bank holiday weekend.

mbm how was your trip to the UK?

Hi all

My ds did really well on Sun and got another medal (they all get one at his age but it is a real confidence booster)

Last night we were at his anchor boy (boys brigade) parents night where all the boys did songs, games, plays, played music etc for the parents to watch and then they had a presentation of awards and ds got his second badge so it has been an exciting week so far. In fact even better because on mon at school they got taken to the local theatre to watch a play performed by p6&7's called the dracula rock show. Ds was very impressed

Agree with you MBM that chess on demand is harder work than chess for playings sake but have managed 2 games so far and am planning more moves tonight

ps your crumble did really sound delicious! I made cookies on sunday and banana and raisin muffins yest. Was going to make banana loaf but ds dropped one of my 2 remaining eggs after pretending to be a chicken

becky glad you are feeling a bit better now and you managed some shopping. The sore boob thing is vile like having pmt boobs for weeks on end - but it will all be worth it. My friend who had her little boy a 3 weeks ago has now succumbed to the fatigue as her new ds has turned day into night. Very very cute though!!!

nandos hope you are well.

I was being totally serious. I don't mind a bit of poo . Your crumble sounded yummy.

My voice is back and my bump is growing.

I did get coats for the DSs and summer hats. I'll send you a BK Whopper with lots of ketchup in exchange for some crumble!!!!

Perhaps you did ovulate without realising it mbm.

My boobs are permanently sore. I had to run to fetch DS2 from nursery but I couldn't run too fast as it was agony!

Our half term is next week.

Enjoy your picnic: hope the sun shines

And happy birthday to your dad!

Poppy I hope you are ok.

Hello Nandos and m2o if you are about!

Morning! Crumble been sent Becky I can't figure out whether you and Poppy are being serious re the crumble sounding delicious knowing as you do where it grew

How's your voice Becky? Is it back yet? How's your bump doing? Ooh it's very exciting going shopping, did you get nice raincoats for the boys? Burger King, YUM!!! I love the small Whopper with loads of ketchup - they don't have BK's here Probs a good thing or else I'd be there the whole time!

Poppy Hope you had a nice game of chess the other night. It's tiring isn't it, when you 'have' to perform at the right time each month. I'd forgotten how frustrating it is not to get pg straight away! What was it you said you were taking to help your cycles? Was it Vit B6? Am off back to the UK tomorrow, so shall try to pick some up.
How did DS get on on Sunday? Hope he did well!

M2O and Nandos How are you both?

Am now on CD22 and still no sign of ovulation Having said I was only going to play chess once or twice, we have done it this month almost more than the last few months put together Am terrified am going to miss it! Boobs are a bit sore so wondering if it's happened without me knowing about it! Am a bit of a control freak and can't be doing with this!

Anyway, am on half term this week, it's a lovely sunny day and ds and I are off to meet my MN friend and her LO's for a picnic in a bit. Then off to UK tomorrow for Dad's 60th at the weekend which is very exciting Lots of things to enjoy.

Lots of love to you all xxx

Ooooh mbm send me some of that crumble it sounds really delicious. I could also eat some of your cheese scones Poppy so next time you make some send some down to me

My cold is getting better thanks but I've lost my voice. Croak!

Good luck with the chess Poppy. Good luck also to your DS with his Taekwondo comp.

I've been to Birmingham shopping today and I bought the DSs some rain coats and sun hats. Birmingham on a Saturday is a bit of a nightmare. It is sooo crowded. But I had a good time and had Burger King for lunch - not a sprig of brocolli or green leafy veg in sight! Yum.

Hi becky hope your cold is better now. My ds has been sneezing all week and is quite scared re all the ads on tv regarding swine flu. Quite scary when you are only 6 and have just got sniffles!

MBM well done you - your crumbles sounds fab . I made some cheese scones on thursday and they lasted about 2 seconds!
After me going on about having a normal cycle the one before last I should have kept my trap shut because last month I began pmt sore boobs at 22 days and then the dreaded spotting culminating in AF arriving 3 days early. Am now on CD8 and hoping this month is a bit better although ds stayed with my parents last night and dh and I had a take out, a bottle of wine and a huge sleep didn't manage any chess due to extreme tiredness hoping to be more up for chess tonight after getting batteries recharged

DS has a Taekwondo competition tomorrow morning at 9am sharp! in Falkirk which is a 30 min drive so we will need to be up and organised tomorrow morning. Hopefully he will get another medal!

nandos and M2O hope you are both having a good weekend.

Oooh hello all!

Oh Becky poor you having a stinky cold and not being able to take anything for it Hope you're feeling better? Wow re 14 weeks! You'll have to take a pic of your little bump for us to see

nandos that's so lovely that you got the cereal bars I wish we could see your bump too! Any decisions made on where the baby will be born yet?

Poppy lol re rhubarb We ended up having it, but not until I had washed it all in hot water with antibacterial handwash Think that probably tastes better than dog poo! There was bird poo on it too! Nice. I put in pears, strawbs and raspberries too, and it was probably the best crumble I've ever made <<<very proud emoticon>>> No side effects from the handwash either Congrats to your hubby, he must be very happy, as must you!

Hi M2O How are you doing? Hope all good with you! How's Simon's training going?

Things okay here, confused AGAIN this cycle as absolutely no EWCM. Am on CD18 and there's not even a hint of it, yet boobs are sore like after ovulation. Am convinced it's a dud month, but hey ho, got Take That to look forward to if I'm not up the duff so either way I'm a winner

hELLO EVERYONE. i WILL TURN OFF CAPS LOCK, HANG ON, that's better.

How are you all? I'm fine but I have DS1's stinky cold so I have been sneezing all day today It was really funny just now we were in Sainsbury's and I was sneezing all the way around and the looks I was getting. I wanted to shout to them 'no, it is not swine flu!'

I'm 14 weeks this weekend. Time is going faster now. I'm starting to get a bit of a belly.

Well done your DH Poppy! Cava sounds lovely. I love a bit of bubbly.

hi everyone!

just a quick post from me cos' its kinda late here
hope you ladies are doing well and spending time with your family and btw its Mother's day here!
me and family went out for dinner today and they had a lucky draw just for moms and my mom got a toaster how lucky!
as for me, i thought i wouldnt get anything cos' am not a mom yet but when they saw my pregnant belly they gave me a dozen cereal bars lol
anywayz goodnite for now and will catch up with you all soon..bubyee

becky pmsl at the pg virgin crack Hope your ds gets well soon.

M2O enjoy your vino - I don't think it will do any harm. I'm swinging between being "good" and being "feck it" it appears to make no diff whatsoever to me

MMMMM YUMMY dog poo rhubarb!
MBM when my dh was doing some work in the garden for my parents he saw one of the neighbours cats doing a poo next to their rhubarb and he said no way is he eating crumble for pudding this year!! I think if it gets a good wash it should be ok

We had good news yest as dh passed his exam and is now a fully licensed radio amateur. It was a hard course loads of electronics and mathematics so he is really happy he managed to achieve it. Had some bubbly (cava) last night to celebrate then AF came to visit never fails!
My friend just completed race for life today so a good weekend all round!
xxx

Hello! We're having a quiet weekend. DS2 has a temperature today so I'm being a worrying mother although he is essentially ok. He thought there were holes in his bed all night last night so I am a bit zzzz today.

m2o I hope you are enjoying Corrie!!! I've just seen your status on facebook.

DH and I had our first chess match last night for about 10 weeks (since conception). I was really nervous feeling like a born-again pregnant virgin but it was nice. I said to him 'this is the safest sex you'll ever have: no chance of getting me pregnant!'

I am ok thanks

DH is in Dubai so slightly but better than I normally am when he goes away!!

We are having a break this month too cos he went away just as the 'magic time' started so am quite relaxed and chilled. Been doing some licking and sticking with Liv today and am going to pour a glass of red shortly.

Had some friends over last night and had a take away and vino- I am so unhealthy just lately its untrue, its just not like me but really cant be arsed with the sodding faff of calculating whats healthy and whats not so just eating what the hell I like!! Can't do any harm can it??

Hope everyone is well anyway??? Having good weekends I hope........

Forgot to say hi M2O - how are you? xxx

Hi ladies

Hope your ds is okay Poppy, it must be horrible to have that happen!

Becky and Nandos you made me feel a bit better - I think I go through stages depending on the time of the month - during AF I feel there's no hope left, and as ovulation approaches I can feel myself getting more positive. Am sure it's normal and that you've all been through that rollercoaster too. Just waiting for any sign of EWCM and am going to jump on dh
I have a different strategy this month - we are only going to play chess once, or maybe twice - last year with both pregnancies I think we only did it once (twice with the 2nd one) and caught straight away. I have this theory about there being too many sperm and them all getting confused and not knowing which way to go coz it's so crowded Think might be losing the plot......

Hope you're all having lovely Saturdays What are you up to?
I started a thread this morning asking whether people would eat rhubarb that's grown near dog poo. Have just discovered some at the bottom of the garden, but the dogs spend loads of time out there. It's lovely looking and all pink so perfect to eat now. What would you do?

Hi *M2O" great to hear from you and congrats to your dh for completing the marathon - what a fantastic achievement. I think anyone who can do something so physically challenging is amazing
Also sounds like your sister is pretty amazing and you will have lots to catch up on now. Hope you get on ok at your gynae consul. I am still patiently trying and trying to remain hopeful. My reiki/psychic lady told me she defo sees another baby for us and that ds won't be an only one so here is hoping! My friend who had a mc at the same time as me last yr has just had a beautiful baby boy. She has 2 dd's so this is a real novelty. I'm going for a wee visit 2morro so hoping some baby dust will rub off

becky glad you are beginning to feel better. Ms is vile vile vile.

nandos and mbm hope you are both well.

Just had a hysterical ds a short while ago as he was out on his scooter and tried to skid to avoid hitting a parked van, fell off and took the knee right out of his (new) jeans and cut his knee really badly. Much crying, cleaning and plasters needed

Hi guys

Not much to report here just wanted to say hi! I'm starting to feel better the last few days: much less nauseous and less knackered. I even managed to stay awake until 10.30 last night! I'm starting to feel quite fat though as my clothes don't fit me so well now so today am wearing leggings.

mbm who knows what the future holds? I am 37 and I didn't think I would get pregnant again after my MC last May: I was starting to think my eggs were all withered and dying. When DH and I first got married we talked about children and at first I was adamant I didn't want any and then he said he didn't want me to wait too long and then regret it later. I asked him what age he thought was too old and at the time he said 'about 35'. Things do change. Here I am having a third baby when I didn't think I'd have any at all and only a few months ago I didn't think I'd ever have this third baby but fingers crossed it might actually be happening. The future is unpredictable so who knows what will happen for you. Don't give up hope. I think the strategy of just keeping on trying is the best thing to do. Just keep on, with a glimmer of hope

hello all.
Becky, congrats! So pleased everythng is fine for you
DH online with webcam so i am typing in a hurry..do not mind me
M2olivia, nice to see u here again..no tips for the running cos like Becky, i too can hardly run till the end of the road lol ..how unfit can i be
poppy, all i can think of warm tongue is naughty things so will not venture into that side too much lol ..maybe cos' DH is away for so long i get my brain to wander away 2
MBM, dont ever think like that again MBM! im sure u will have a sibling for your sweet ds. also i hope hes gonna get better soon..poor thing.
i got to go n get changed n continue chatting with DH..
take care all

Hello m2o!!!! What a lovely surprise to see your post! We have missed you! Congrats to Simon on an amazing achievement. I can hardly run to the end of the road and back!

I'm so pleased for you being in touch with your sister and getting to know each other: she does sound lovely offering you eggs just like that! What a wonderful and touching gesture.

Poor your DS mbm I hope he feels better soon.

I've got to go now and do some work while everyone is at school and nursery. Sigh. Being freelance means I need motivation...and I don't have any sometimes.

Oh yay M2O I cannot tell you how lovely it is that you have come back! You have been very much missed
Your sister sounds lovely, and that's such an amazing offer, what a lovely thing to do
You sound loads more positive, maybe the break from MN has done you good...
Re running, I get out of breathe just thinking about running, let alone doing it. Way to go Simon, that's fab that he did the marathon, well done him. I think any finish, regardless of time, is such a huge achievement. I would never, ever be able to do that

I am fine thanks, and very slowly seem to be more accepting of the idea that ds may end up being an only child - like you and Olivia, I just think that he is so amazing, and I love him more than I could possibly ever put into words, so maybe that's enough... We're going to keep trying, but the way I feel now I can't ever see it happening
DS is poorly actually, bless him - he has a terrible cough and a bit of a temperature, am just debating whether he should be going to creche tomorrow or not. Might have to take the day off and stay home with him.

Have to go as am meant to be tidying kitchen before going to bed, but couldn't go without saying how happy I am to hear from you M20! This thread is now complete again

Love to you all, and will try to post more tomorrow xxx

Just wanted to pop in and let you all know that I miss you!!!

becky Am so pleased about your scan- WOW!!!! Step 2 under your belt- now relax and enjoy being pregnant!! Such a great feeling- and get some pics posted. (saw your comment about missing my posts and got choked up- have missed you too!)

Sorry I havent been in touch on FB- have been SOOOOO busy just lately- have loads of unanswered e-mails in my in-box so dont take it personally! Simon ran the London Marathon last weekend so the last few weeks have been a complete train fest. He didnt do it in the best time (5 and a half hours) so now its onwards and upwards for more training and a re-entry for next year for a quicker time. What have we let ourselves in for??!!! Meanwhile he has entered a smaller race at the end of the month (10k) and joined a running club in coventry and spent a grand on a bike (yes- £1000) and he is aiming to lose 2 stone and compete in a triathlon next year. Kiss goodbye to spare cash and spare time with hubby. Am pleased for him though- he could take up shooting up drugs so extra fitness cant be a bad thing can it?? And I am mega competitive so the thought of someone going further and succeeding really excites me. Do any of you run? Can you offer any tips? I really want a go but cant run half a mile without huffing and puffing let alone 26!!!

MBM How are you? any news on an appt with the gynae?

Nandos I know everyone thinks things are going quick for you but for some reason i think time has stood still!!! I thought baby would be here in the next couple of weeks!!! Not long to go though.

poppy How are you? where are you with things?

I have another appt with the fertility cons in June- fingers crossed I will be referred for laser surgery- dont want to keep hanging on for something to happen that doesnt seem to be!! Feel like I need to be stepping in some sort of direction...

Symptoms have been loads better lately though- acupuncture seems to be helping and I feel loads better than I did 3 months ago. Having a little baby cat to mother has helped Plus Olivia has been an absolute pleasure just lately which has been nice and made me think 'why do I need anymore??'. And I have met up with my sister recently after 17 years apart and that has been fantastic and made me feel really positive and like anything is possible. She is so funny- I love being around her. She is older than me by 14 years but offered me her eggs on Saturday like she was offering me a cuppa- very odd but very funny and brought tears to my eyes!! Have told her all about the endo and what we have been through and she has issues with fibroids and has laparoscopies too which is a weird coincidence. Plus her daughter lost her right tube due to an ectopic last year so we have been comparing notes on all of that!! Feels good to share with someone like I have always shared with you guys.

Anyway- enough waffling....

Love to all and I promise now- I will post reguarly and wont disappear again x

We did tell them this afternoon. DS2 was happy but not sure he quite gets what it will mean really. He just liked the idea of a baby in my tummy. DS1 was unhappy and just went really quiet, and needed a big cuddle. I think he is a creature of habit and any change to his life is a worry to him.

Oh Becky What fantastic news! Have been dying to find out how it went ALL day Blasted work computer!

You must be so thrilled - are you going to tell the boys now?

Must dash as only just walked through the door and ds still has his coat on

Hi Poppy too!

Becky Congratulations on your scan!
I am sooo pleased everything is ok this time - you really deserve it and how exciting to be more pregnat than you thought

Hopefully now you can relax and enjoy the rest of your pregnancy and look forward to November! Can't wait to see the scan photo.

Have fun at your sisters.

We had a great day at Louden Castle. The sun even came out (which is rare in Scotland) and the girls all had a ball just getting to wander around with their friends and go on all the rides. Ds also had a ball and went on some of the bigger rides which surprised me and we went to the petting farm and he got to feed the sheep, goats and llamas. He couldn't stop laughing at the sensation of their warm tongues licking his hand. We also spent a fortune on hook the duck in order to win him a spongebob toy so all in all a success.

Just need the sun to make another appearance as it is a very wet and windy bank holiday today.

xxx

Hello all! I had my scan this morning and I was so terrified and nervous I was on the point of saying 'please, I can't go through with it' but the good news is that all is well and I saw a little baby with a pumping heart and fingers! I've never been so nervous in my whole life. I am 12.5 weeks apparently so further than I thought and due 14 November. It was such a relief. I will upload scan photos soon

I hope you are all ok.

Poppy how was your trip to Louden Castle? I hope the weather was nice and warm for you. I'm off to take the DSs to my sister's this afternoon. The weather here today is grim.

Just got into work so v quick - good luck this morning Becky I am thinking of you... I so hope it all goes well and that you come back bursting with good news
This computer won´t let me go onto the last page due to its filter so I shall have to wait till I get home to find out how you got on. My fingers will be crossed all morning xxx

Love to all xxx

becky lol at your ds asking about your "lumps". Good luck for monday, remember and drink plenty water!!!!!

mbm I have been taking vitamin B complex (1 a day) for the last 7 wks on the recommendation of the reiki lady and I have defo felt a lot more "normal" cycle wise since taking them. Had a 30 day cycle last month as opposed to varying lengths and loads of spotting beforehand before the vits. Might be worth a go.

My poor friend stopped taking her pill 7 wks ago and has yet to have a period. She was at docs and her blood pressure is v low and so is her pulse so they are going to do tests and also tests for early menopause. She is bricking it as she is only 35 and has one ds of 7. She has been single for a long time but would love to meet someone nice one day and have another dc so fingers crossed tests results are ok.

I bought a lovely pressie for friends new ds and gave it to her today on school run. Am going to pop down next week for a wee visit and hopefully a cuddle. She says he is turning day into night which will be very hard for her as she has 2 older dd's to look after as well!

Off to Louden Castle (fun park with rides and petting farm etc) tomorrow with my girl guides and ds is coming along too. Hope it will be sunny or it will be a long and cold day in Scotland!!!

nandos hope you are ok and got all your work finished!

xxx

Hello everyone!

Nandos I also can't believe how time has flown! What's your due date?

mbm I haven't told the DSs yet - will wait until after Monday. They are totally in blissful ignorance. I'm sure they wonder why mummy always lies on the sofa as soon as daddy comes home and does the dying swan act. Or perhaps they wonder why mummy is eating all the time! DS2 did comment on my larger than normal boobies yesterday which was funny. He asked me what my 'lumps' were for.

I hope you are ok today mbm and not feeling too poorly.

I've been having nightmares about swine flu. I'm not ready to die yet!

The scan is 10.30 on Monday...counting the minutes!

The weather is supposed to be nice this weekend so we'll make sure we get out and about. We're going to my sister's on Sunday as it is my niece's 12th birthday on Monday. I can't believe it. She is growing up. She's already been to her first concert: Scouting for Girls. I have that album! Makes me feel old!

Better go get everyone ready for school and nursery. Byeeee, take care all xx.

Hi all

Nandos Can't believe you're over 6 months already, that's amazing! When will you stop work for maternity leave? Do you know how long you can have off? Re flying, I think that if you're around that 7 months mark then you can get a letter from your doctor stating that you're okay to fly and not about to give birth That should be good enough for the airlines, well it was with me anyway... I think my last flight when pg with ds was at about 30 weeks. It was great as I got to jump all the queues
I hope your dh is okay, have heard a little about the swine flu here and it sounds very scary. When's he coming back?

Becky Gosh, I can't believe the time has gone so fast with you too! How are feeling today? It's normal that you're nervous, but hopefully it will all be for nothing and this time next week you'll be feeling a lot more relaxed about things! Have you told the ds's yet or are you waiting till after the scan?

Poppy at ds pulling his tooth out! Makes me shudder! That's so cute that he's all gappy though, and he must be a very happy boy at having the tooth fairy visit again so soon
What lovely news about your friend, just the kind of story we need to hear. Are you going to visit them? Newborns are so sweet and I never fail to be amazed by how tiny they are

My AF started yesterday, so I've had a 23 day cycle Have spotted every 2 or 3 days for the last two weeks, so think I should defo go to the gynae. I know I keep saying I'll go, but I just feel like I've had enough intrusion into the whole ttc thing, and I can't bear the thought of more tests/opinions/medication. I just want to get pg and stay pg. Surely that's not too much to ask for
Am feeling poorly today too, and think am coming down with something Tis a bank holiday here on Friday, so at least I only have one more day of work to get through this week...

What are you all doing for the bank holiday weekend? It is a bh weekend in the UK isn't it? Becky I hope you've got something lovely planned to keep your mind off things. What time is your scan? Is dh going with you? I hope with all my heart that it's good news for you x

Love to all xxx

helloo all

been quite a while since the last time i posted.. sorry didnt get much time on the computer let alone MN.
just a quick post from me cos' i need to get ready soon.
Becky, hope scan goes well next week. im sure everything will be ok. How is MS doing? hope it's not as worse as mine

Poppy lol as ds being a mini celebrity..they are really curious abt these small things isnt it
hope you are doing ok too..

MBM didnt quite understand which CD u r at now..sorry u can see am in a mad rush now but hope u r doing fine and dont stress yourself up ok?

just a quick update on me: am just over 6mths now. i think am on the 26/27th week but will confirm once i see the calendar baby doing little kicks here n there but not hard enough maybe due to the placenta being infront.
am rushing to complete most of the work here by next mth(just b4 i turn 7mths) cos' thats the time when i can't go travelling till birth..if that is true cos' the airport staff might stop women who are 7mths pregnant or more.have read abt it somewhere..godknows cos' am still deciding where to give birth..
dh still in US and am a bit worried abt him re the swine flu.
hope you ladies take care of yourself cos' i heard theres flu cases in UK as well now.

Got to go now..have a nice day everyone

Hi Poppy yeah at your DS's tooth! I remember those days myself!!! I want to see pics.

My scan is a week today and I am totally a bag of nerves. I just wish I could travel through time and get it over and done with. I just want to know now whether there is something there to make me smile or just get the bad news over and done with (I'm a total pessimist). I am 10+5 today.

Nandos and mbm how are you doing?

Hi everyone, just a quick post before I pour myself into my bed. I fell asleep on the sofa which is prob the worst thing as you wake up feeling crappy .

We have had a busy first week back at school and much excitement when another one of ds's front teeth came out (well he pulled it out) in the playground after school on tues. He was like a mini celeb with kids crowding round to see the tooth and the blood He was delighted when the tooth fairy made a second appearance in the same week! Now when he smiles he is all gappy. Will take a photo tomorrow and get dh to help me load on some pics as I'm sure it would be nice for you to put a face to a name.

The other lovely thing to happen this week was that my old neighbour and friend who had a mc at the same time as me last year had a beautiful little baby boy. Can't remember if I said or not but she had fell pg again at the end of the summer and at 3 months had had bleeding and it turned out to be placenta previa. Well she has had quite a tough pg and over the last few weeks has been in loads of pain and about 3 wks ago spent nearly a week in hosp with pains. They said she was either in labour or had an infection. She was only 35 wks then. The upside was that the placenta had moved and eventally she got home with antibiotics. The pain never really went away and then last sunday her waters broke and she had baby on mon morn and all was well. So quite eventful for her but worth it. She has two girls who are sooooo excited it's just lovely.

Anyway better go to bed now and stop eating mini eggs!!!!!

Love poppy xxx

I meant to add: no plans for the weekend at all. Any suggestions?

Nandos how is your bump doing? We want some photos!

Hi guys

mbm I think you are doing the right thing seeking advice from the gynae. I don't know about implantation bleeding as I've never experienced it the times I've got pregnant. It could be, though, couldn't it? If you ovulated early.

I am feeling a bit better since Monday so again I'm worrying about that - am 10+2 today. Oh the stress never ends. I have my scan a week on Monday. I haven't been too unwell so far so looking after the DSs has been manageable: I know I can call on MIL if it gets too bad! I've had a few wobbly moments but nothing major.

Poppy I hope you are ok.

Tattifer hello - how are you doing?

I wish m2o would come back here I miss her posts.

The weather has been on and off here. It keeps teasing us. Apparently it is going to be a hot summer though so hopefully we'll all soon look and feel much brighter and healthier - it has been a loooong winter.

Can you tell I'm tired?
I meant 5 & 8 days after ovulation, so CD18 and 21

Hello!!! Long time no 'see'! Have had very hectic week back at work, and just not had time to post, sorry!

Poppy poor you having migraines, they're awful Have you had more since you posted? Hope not. I don't have any tips, other than just to make sure you're drinking enough, but then if it's a proper migraine I doubt that'll make any difference. My MIL gets awful ones, but has tablets to take when thy start coming on which helps, but probs not a good idea when ttc.
That's great re your ds Water can be scary can't it. How old is he now? I didn't start swimming til I was 11, and have been scared of water ever since
Thanks re pics i would LOVE to see some of your pics, am dying to be able to put a face to yours and Nandos names!

Becky How are you feeling? Not long to go til the scan now... What you said re sitting on the kitchen floor just takes me back to last summer, and feeling too ill to even sit on a chair. Urgh. It's awful, but as you know is a good sign. Think you are being amazing for looking after ds's whilst feeling like this.

Nandos How are things with you? Any news on where you're having the baby? Hope things are going well.

Tattifer Hello if you're lurking Hope you're okay x

All okay here but am yet again completely confused as to what is going on re cycle Why is ttc so very difficult???
Had spotting around time of ovulation, then again at what I reckon was CD5, and then again today (CD8). Only a teeny tiny bit, just enough to colour the toilet paper (tmi!) but is weird and I don't usually get it. Have been googling implantation bleeding in a hopeful manner, but think that CD5 is too early for it to be that. Is defo something up, so am going to make an appt to see the gynae I found over here. DH is now worried with the spotting, and so agrees that I should go. The saga never ends.......

Anyway, hope you all have the lovely weather that we have here Just looked at myself in the mirror and noticed that am looking a wee bit brown, hurray! I love summer freckles and looking tanned

Anyone doing anything nice for the weekend? We have FIL's b'day party on Sunday where we get to meet his new girlfriends son, who is apparently a bit of a well-known singer over here, and rather goodlooking! Am all of a fluster!

Love to all xxx

Poppy poor you. I have no tips though. I've only ever had one migraine and that was on holiday a couple of years ago and it made me see fuzzy lights. I thought I was dying until DH pointed out it was probably a migraine. My mum used to get them and they used to knock her out all day. Hers were triggered by stopping work and the weekend starting. My grandma used to get them from cheese or red wine. Does anything trigger yours off, that you know? Could it be stress?

The tooth fairy rates have gone up! I used to get 10p... perhaps that is showing my age.

I've had a really sicky day today. I know I am sooo lucky compared to many, esp poor Nandos over Christmas and beyond though so even when I'm sitting on the kitchen floor wanting to throw up at least I'm not throwing up all the time. I really miss hot drinks too. I just can't stomach tea or coffee. Yuck double yuck!

Well, better go, DH is bathing the DSs again so I should be 'resting up' or something.

becky just love the sound of those novelty knickers - they are the kind of thing my ds would love too
So glad your booking in appt went well and it sounds like all is well so hopefully that must put your mind at ease a little. Can't believe it's only two weeks till your scan - that's really exciting.

MBM your pics are lovely. I really will try and load some on this week. Will try and post one of ds with his big gappy smile as another tooth came out on thursday night, a big top front one. It is so cute now seeing his smile. He was v excited as the tooth fairy came and left £2 under his pillow. The rates have gone up since I was a lass .

nandos the creepy dreams must be really scary for you but all pasrt and parcel of the wonderful world of pregnancy

tattifer how are you this week?

I was at a 40th with my friend on fri night and it was quite good. Don't get out v much now and always end up with the "what will I wear" dilemma as I spend most of my life in jeans!

On sat we took ds swimming which was a big breakthrough for him as that was his first time in a proper swimming pool as the water and the noise have always frightened him in the past but he loved it so we were delighted. Have been having v bad migraines again recently. No idea what the cause is but had one all day yesterday and today and it is no fun as it really wipes me out. Any tips to prevent them are welcome

xxx

Hello!

V quick one from me as cooking supper - I too am back to work tomorrow Becky, it's depressing isn't it... So pleased the appt today went well I shall be waiting anxiously for you to have your scan in two weeks Can't believe it has gone so quickly, although it probably doesn't feel that way for you

Nandos and Poppy how are you both? Hope all is okay and that you've had a lovely weekend? What have you been up to?

Right, must go and do potatoes - dh got a quiche from the bakery this morning, and it's one of those surprise ones where we don't know what's in it... On close inspection it has walnuts on the top and what looks like goats cheese and it smells yummy <tummy rumbles loudly>

Love to all xxx

Hi you guys

I hope you are all well and enjoying your weekend. I had my midwife booking-in appointment today. It took ages and ages and there were so many questions about family health and history and stuff. She had a feel of my belly and said she could feel the uterus so I guess that is a good sign! I have no idea. I'm nine weeks 4 days today. Woohoo! Scan is two weeks tomorrow. Ahhhhhh!

I'm not wearing my novelty knickers today as they are all in the wash now but I am quite fond of them. DH likes things to be matching but I hardly ever wear matching underwear!

DH is bathing the DSs at the moment so it is quiet down here.

I'm not looking forward to tomorrow: back to work / school / routine. Blaaa. I think it should be the summer now.

I hope you are all well xxxx

Hehehe re knickers Becky Love the sound of the spotty pair! Novelty knickers are the way forward......
How are you feeling?

I'm back! I miss Wales. Aki the cat is driving me a bit mad though: I think she has missed us as she's only had DH for company and he is very boring when he's on his own as he just sits at his computer.

It was nice buying new knickers but they are novelty knickers as they were in the sale: I have one pair with pigs on, one with cow print and a spotty pair. The DSs love them!

Morning all!

Thanks nandos I love that one too! Seems like yesterday that he was so little and now look at him The time has passed far too quickly...
Your dream sounds awful, very upsetting. When I was pg with ds I dreamt that I had a 'fling' with dh's grandad of all people Was very vivid, and an absolute nightmare, and it left me feeling really weird for the rest of the pregnancy because I felt like I wasn't sure who the father was. Pregnancy dreams really are incredibly real aren't they... I did tell dh about it and although he laughed I think he felt a little disturbed

I also used to dreamt really gruesome things, like about people having their hands chopped off with chainsaws Think it is a really good sign that you and you Becky are having horrible dreams!

Becky I'd love to 'forget' my knickers and have to buy some new ones - mine are ancient! It's nice wearing new underwear isn't it.
When are you back from Wales? Hope it's a wee bit warmer for you today.

Poppy How are you? Hope all is well and that ds is better?

tattifer how are you doing? Am thinking of you x

Off to watch Peppa Pig with ds now as friends have just gone. He keeps making snorting noises in my ear, which is not going to stop until I put the DVD on. 'Peppa Pig, la la lalala, la la la lalala' Off we go......

Becky, lol re new knickers today
i, on the other hand doesnt forget to bring any when going on trips..in fact brought extras just in case staying longer than expected will have phobia if i have less/none
re dreams, i didnt have any mc dreams but theres one recently when i dreamt baby's feet came out from my tummy and i screamed in my dream! it sounds funny now but in my sleep it really feel real..
oh btw your cats are really cute...i wish i could touch it a friend of mine told me its not safe to touch stray cats here so i am avoiding contact. shes a doc and said it might cause mc so becareful when handling your cats too becky*

*MBM
your baby boy is so tall and big now
i still love that baby pic with you in front of the camera/computer screen soo sweet

got to go now as contractors will be coming soon..take care everyonee

Becky LOL re space hopper - post those pics

Ooooh lovely pictures! I ought to put some more up too.

Hello all and welcome to Tattifer. Sorry to hear about your recent losses. This thread has been a total lifeline for me and I couldn't have coped since my last MC last May without these guys here and the support and friendship they have provided me. We were all on the 'due December 08' thread and sadly all had an MC last Spring and started this thread to support each other. I am nine weeks pregnant now (you guessed the weeks correctly Nandos). I mark each week with The Apprentice as each Wednesday I am a week further. I feel nicely sick today so that is good! I had terrible miscarriage dreams last night, dreamt I was bleeding everywhere, and woke up in tears. Nandos did you have such dreams early on in your pregnancy? It was so horrible.

I am wearing my new knickers today (one pair of them) you'll be pleased to know.

It is cold in Wales today so we have been on the beach in our winter coats! We lasted 30 minutes before we went to a cafe for a drink. Even now in the caravan my hands are cold and I'm contemplating working out how to put the central heating on.

Nandos I bet you look like one of those yummy mummy-to-bes with your neat bump. I was like that with DS1 (but not with DS2 when I just looked like a very large space hopper).

mbm have a good time with your visitors! I'm going to go look at your pics now...

Hi nandos I'm sure you don't look wierd. Bet you will miss having a bump when the baby's born

Have to be quick as got friends coming to stay this arvo and have to go and sort out house, but just uploaded some new pics onto my profile page, so thought would let you know. They're not very exciting really...

Hope you're all okay today!

Tattifer sorry for your loss..its really sad. I know these docs are silly to call a recurrent mc only after miscarrying a 3rd time cos' my gp said the same thing when i mc the 2nd time in march last yr.
Its nice that you came to our thread cos' now we have an additional member

Becky, how could i miss that knicker post??
Ewww lol kids can sometimes be embarassing when they say personal things in public

Poppy bump is smallish-medium and i look weird Btw hope your arthritis thingy(if i remember correctly) doesnt stop/delay too much for u in ttc.

MBM hope bleeding stops soon so ovulation can start soon..

I got to go now and buy lunch so take care everyone

becky pmsl at your ds and yesterday's knickers comment kids really would get you hung!!!

MBM hope you are feeling a bit better today and the bleeding has stopped. I also think you should only give it another couple of months and then if you can speak to the specialist for rc mc's then it may be helpful. I certainly feel like at least we have some answers now and a bit of hope that they may be able to help if I manage to get pg again - OR with my positive head on WHEN I get pg again! You take care.

nandos I bet you look fab. It is difficult trying to get a good sleep etc when bump begins to take over, but it will all be worth it in the end.

tattifer welcome to our thread. I am so sorry about your mc's it is such a horrible thing to get through and I know I wouldn't have managed it as well without the lovely ladies on this thread. I also had 2 mc'c last year after 3.5 yrs of ttc a 2nd child. That made it very difficult for us as after finally feeling we had beaten the unexplained infertilty label our world came crashing down when we lost both pg's. Again we had also seen hb in 2nd pg so found that one the most diff to deal with. Hope you find some comfort here and also with your dd's and dh. Don't worry about the age gap. My ds is 6.5 and for a long time I was obsessed about age gaps but now I just don't care I just want him to have a sibling. Got to go I am being summoned for bedtime story.

Take care.
ps went to see Monster v Aliens today at cinema. V good indeed. Ds loved it! [smile}
xx

Oh tattifer it's so sad I know exactly how you feel, my second one didn't sink in for a long time. I felt like I'd gone numb, and then every so often a big wave of grief would hit.
I was like you actually, with the first one last year I had no symptoms, except slightly sore boobs, and then at 8 weeks started bleeding. We'd seen the heartbeat the week before which made it even more of a shock.
With the second one I was hospitalised with HG and 'lost' 2 months of ds' life as I could hardly even stand up, let alone look after him. I really could not believe it when at our second scan at exactly 12 weeks the gynae said 'I think it's bad news'. It is heartbreaking.
I suppose you'll never know the reasons behind your losses, which is very hard. I know that most mc's are chromosomal, and that they are normally lost around or before the 8 week mark.
Let's hope that your two mc's have just been down to terrible bad fortune... You say you're going to wait one cycle? Try to use that opportunity to pamper yourself and do whatever you want to do. It's a horribly hard time in the aftermath of what's just happened, and you must try to come to terms with it in your own way.

How is your dh handling it? Do your dd's know what's happened? I hope they're all providing you with a bit of comfort...
Sending you a big hug x

Thank you for the kind words MBM

Although both MCs happened about the same time they were different. The first began by bleeding that got worse and worse over a couple of weeks and the scan revealed mishapen sac. I'd also had very few signs of pregnancy except big boobs. This time I was sick, bloated, big sore boobs etc etc and thought it was all going fine til a few hours of bleeding after which I had a scan which was inconclusive - everything seemed in order, heart beat wasn't seen but the date was borderline for seeing heartbeat anyway. Two weeks later another scan (no decline in symptoms, no bleeding) and no heartbeat. The sac had continued to grow. ERPC the next day - all so fast i almost didn't believe. I know I've miscarried, but it hasn't sunk in - does that make sense? Oh well, thank god Easter made my chocolate munching look seasonal!!

Becky You're so lovely, thank you for your calming words. Feel a bit better now . Goodness me I hope that things go well for you at the scan. It would just be too cruel for you to have to go through the same thing another time. Glad you're having a good time, and LOL re knickers You really did make me laugh out loud! Hope you have a fab time with your buckets and spades this arvo. Those kind of afternoons are what memories are made of, well for me anyway .

Nandos lovely to hear from you! Bet you look like a beautiful and blooming beer-bellied woman You must post some pics when you get a chance! Am glad to hear you're having a day off. You must be starting to get a bit tired now with the bump getting bigger. Mind you, is there any point in pregnancy that women don't feel tired Would love to see you here more often, we must get this thread up to the limit and start thinking of wonderful names for the new thread, in which all our babies will be born Here's hoping!

tattifer Hello, and welcome to our thread. I am so sorry to hear about your miscarriages. Life really stinks sometimes
I had two miscarriages last year, and going into it again is terrifying. I had to wait 6 months as my last pregnancy was a partial molar, and so have only been ttc again for the last 2 cycles.
After one mc you can put it down to bad luck and tell yourself it won't happen again. When the second one happens it's unbelievable. I think any vestige of pregnancy 'innocence' has well and truly disappeared now, and I'm a bit like you, wondering how can it possibly go right?
We have to believe it will though. Just reading some of the stories on MN makes me believe that ANYTHING is possible, including having another baby.
Did they do any tests at all after your ERPC? What happened with your first mc if you don't mind me asking? I think sometimes when the circumstances are different then it can point to very bad luck, rather than there being an actual problem. Whatever the case, we are glad that you came to join us, and hope that we can offer you some support during a very difficult time. Unfortunately we have all been there

I've had a lovely day today, just been sat out in the garden playing with ds and reading. My bleeding has finally slowed up, but think that weirdly I might be close to OV'ing too. Am wondering what on earth is happening with my body! Hope dh doesn't come back from work too tired

Love to you all, and have a restful evening x

Hello

I'm off work at the moment trying make sense of second MC since december 08. we found out two weeks ago that no heartbeat at nearly 8 weeks (after a bleed and clots at 6weeks) so another erpc.

We're going to try again - after at least one normal cycle - but the wait is so hard. And now I feel if I get pregnant again I'll expect to have another MC. I have two DDs - youngest one 9. Different husband - so you can see where my mind is going but no one will use the word recurrent until I miscarry a third time. bother

hi everyone! becky! MBM! Poppy!

God i am stressed with work and 'home'-work. renovation is going on and loads of things to do but today i am at home sleeping,watching tv and eating
MBM..aww re antenatal thread..i've not been there for quite some time now. if you feel the need to see doc asap re recurrent mc, then do so MBM..
i've been lurking under pregnancy section and i must admit im overwhelmed by the number of terminations some ladies did after knowing baby had downs
those pro-choice ppl out there pls dont judge me but i feel real pity for both mum n baby..especially innocent little baby
becky, u must be like 9 weeks now. how time flies.. am 25 weeks tmr and cant wait till the 40th week cos' i am totally new to pregnancy and i feel like as if an alien just invaded my tummy also baby lying sideways doest help much cos' i look like a skinny-bloated person..to be more precise i look like a beer-bellied woman
poppy hope you are doing fine..talking abt tablets, i need to start taking the pregnacare tablet after skipping it for so many weeks..

got to go now will try to come more frequent
take care all

Hello! Greetings from a caravan in Wales! My dad and stepmother have put wifi in here so I can write to you all from here now.

mbm I so often had moments / days like you describe when I convinced myself that it was never going to happen (and to be honest I convince myself at the moment that it is not going to happen now: I am terrified about the 12 week scan because I've twice been there now where the sonographer's face falls and says either 'I've got some bad news' or 'I can't find anything' and it is sooooo horrible). But I am sure it will happen for you I really am. You have proved that you can conceive and carry a baby to full term: he's your lovely DS. You can do it again. I agree with you that you should give it a few more months and then seek help. We were going to give it until May before seeking help and I got up the duff just in time!

We're having a great time here in Wales. Went to Abersythwth (can't spell) shopping this morning and we treated ourselves to one book each in Waterstones and I had to go to Dorothy Ps to buy some knickers because guess what? I forgot to pack any!!!! How stupid and how gross! DS1 said in a loud voice in the middle of Dorothy Perkins 'you are wearing yesterday's pants aren't you mummy?' DS2 giggled and went 'yuck!'

I don't know anything about All the Small things. I was watching Hospital on Channel 4 last night about teenage pregnancies.

I feel really sick at the moment. I let myself get too hungry before lunch and then stuffed my face: not a good idea. DS2 is having his nap and DS1 is doing a jigsaw. We're off to the beach later with our buckets and spades.

I hope you are ok Poppy and you are blooming Nandos.

Beckyxxx

pps I take back what I said about it being brill, was very weak tonight, but still got Richard Fleeshman in it though so it can be as rubbish as it wants to be as long as he sings

Hello!

How are you all? Poppy did ds enjoy the egg hunt? Bless him being 'peely wally', is he feeling any better?
That's great re your cycle... Your body sounds like it's really getting itself into good working order, let's hope so anyway!
Did you have a good time at your parents? 39 years...wow! What did you get them? Is there a special pressie for that? They must be so proud of themselves

Nandos How are you doing? Hope you're not working too hard...

Becky Am ashamed to say I've been lurking on the antenatal threads not a healthy thing to do I know, but is a sort of obsession I think you must be away now with the ds' in Wales, so I hope you're all having a fab time and that you're not feeling too poorly...

I had a bit of a down day yesterday, and sort of convinced myself that it's never going to happen. Feeling more positive today, but not happy with the fact that I'm still bleeding, and was passing clots yesterday too which brought back lots of memories of the first mc last year. I felt really teary all day.
Spoke to dh about it, who refuses to acknowledge that two cp's isn't normal. He said we should give it longer before we go back to see someone. I've done a bit of research on the net and found a good doctor at a hospital near me, who specialises in recurrent miscarriage. Will give it a few more months, or another cp, and then go to see him I think.

Love to you all x

ps is anyone watching 'all the small things' on bbc1 tonight? Is brill, and stars the very tasty Richard Fleeshman, my goodness me he can sing! It starts in half an hour, so I have until then to somehow persude ds to not watch the football while it's on.

Hello! Happy Easter! DS2 is sitting next to me unwrapping his Smarties Easter Egg with total delight on his face as I type this.

mbm your bracelet looks lovely. I hope you had a good time over here. I think we all should definitely meet up when you're in the Wirral sometime.

Poppy I hope your DS feels better soon. I am sure he'll like your Easter trail! Glad your cycle is sorting itself out a bit: sounds very positive for the future. I really, really, really want you to have some good luck soon

I'm feeling on and off ok and sick at the moment but I still think I am very lucky compared to most people. I haven't actually thrown up at all yet (eight weeks four days today). My boobies still hurt a lot. I don't think I am going to have an early scan mbm, what you say actually is exactly how I feel. My NHS 12-week scan is booked for 4 May so 4 weeks to go. If something bad happens in the meantime then there is little I can do to stop it anyway. A friend of mine had an early scan at 9 weeks and the baby died between then and her 12 week scan. She told me that if she gets pregnant again she won't have an early scan this time.

I hope you are all having a good day today. Nandos I hope you are ok and I completely understand about you keeping your clomid tablet. I'd be the same too. I'm so excited for you. When is your due date? It must be in the summer sometime?

DS2 is playing with my hair so I'd better go and tickle him or something!

Take care everyone xxxxx

HAPPY EASTER for tomorrow
Have just laid a little trail of arrows and eggs from the "Easter Bunny" for ds to follow in the morning. Hope he is feeling a bit better. He has been really peely wally as we say in Scotland and just totally out of sorts. Today was the first day he was out playing with friends but later in the day he had a massive paddy of mammoth proportions. Not a good idea when mum is premenstrual

On that note, I have been taking B complex tablets all month as recommended by reiki lady for my pmt/cycles etc and I cannot believe this is the first month since the mc's last year that my cycle has been exactly 28 days with no spotting for days before and only a couple of days of tender (but not agony) boobs. It's like a miracle for me. Feeling v positive even though period has began that if I can get cycle/hormones sorted then I stand a much better chance of getting pg.

MBM your bracelet is gorge I love lola rose stuff it is so pretty. Glad you had a good time with your mum.
It is my parents anniversary today. Married 39 years. They are away for weekend but back tomorrow so we will go and have Sunday dinner and take them a wee card and pressie.

becky and nandos hope you are both well and blooming

Hello! Happy Easter for tomorrow too

How are you all?

Becky Glad your boobs are still hurting For me that's always been a major telltale symptom. Re the scan, whether you have one early or not is not going to change the outcome, so you may as well wait if you feel happier doing that. Maybe it'll keep you more relaxed in a funny sort of way, because for as long as you haven't had one you won't know that all is well, so the later you do have one, the less time there will then be to get to the magical 12/13 weeks mark. Have just read that back and not sure it makes sense
Was on the Wirral, so not far from you! One time when I come back we should get together, what do you reckon?

Nandos Hearing about that Clomid tablet still being in your bag makes me think that that's exactly something that I would do too . Keep it there until your little one is safely in your arms. Hope you're not missing your dh too much
Have you decided where you're going to have the baby? It must be tough being 'between' two different countries. What's the health care like where you are? (It's Singapore isn't it??)

Poppy Your poor ds Is he feeling a little better yet? I hope it's nothing serious... So sorry to hear that things are tough for your dh. It is a very difficult time at the moment. I really hope that your reiki lady is right about the word 'contract', and am glad that you seem to be enjoying it. Thinking positively is a powerful thing

Things are okay with me. Had a lovely, but rushed, time in the UK. Mum got me this but in brown which is just gorgeous! Bless her! Was v tempted by the red one, but thought brown would go better with things.
Somehow managed to persuade myself that last weeks +ve's were all in my head, but when I got home I checked them again, and yes there are double pink lines on them so I'm not going mad. Am feeling surprisingly upbeat about things though, just not sure why!
Have been cooking today - made a choccy cake and the sauce for the veggie lasagne I'm making for tomorrow's lunch. Means I don't have to get up quite so early in the morning, lazy thing that I am
Thanks all of you for your lovely messages during the week. Again, I would be lost without you all x

MBM I'm so so sorry this is happening to you again. It really knocks your confidence no matter how pragmatic you feel about things. Maybe the clomid is worth a go as becky says plenty people seem to have good success with it. Have a good time in the UK and hope your bracelet is lovely it's nice to get a treat!

becky 8 weeks! OMG it seems only seconds since you said you were pg! I think you should take all the symptoms as good signs that all is progressing well. Do you automatically get offered a scan at 12 wks where you are?

nandos good to hear from you. It must be so hard for you being apart from your dh so much. I would hate it even though I do moan when he is getting under my feet

I had to take ds to the docs this morning as he was up twice during the night with temp and pain in his ear. This morning it began weeping so he now has antibiotics and dr sent a swab away to be checked. He is a poor wee, hot ill soul. Imagine having that during the hols when you just want be out playing.

I had my second reiki on monday and it was lovely. Felt very relaxed afterwards. She has been telling me how to charge my crystals and use them for healing/sending positive thoughts and light etc.
Am going to do one for dh as work has really dried up at the mo and things are not looking good. She seen the word "contract" related to him and says he is not to worry as things will be ok.

Better go and sort dinner. See you all later. xx

hey everyone..thx for remembering me

MBM am so sorry to hear these things happening again n again..its unfair to say you can conceive easily cos' everytime u did, its a cp/mc hope things go well with the help of clomid if u using it in the future.
the remaining clomid tablet is also in my bag, i dont know why i am keeping it there...maybe a bit pessimist abt life and kept thinking im still not pregnant enough(sorry if it sounds crazy)
Becky how r u coping with the pregnancy? hope ms doesnt touch you dear..
Poppy hope you are also doing ok..
am kinda sad in the morn but not anymore..dh just left for london this morn and will reach tonight(tmr my time) missed him already..hes here for only 6 days
and my family thought of going to london next mth but i dont feel like it..theres nothing much to do over there
am off to get fresh after coming back from work and going to watch american idol

take care everyonee..

Oh mbm . I think lots of people have had success on clomid so it might be worth a try.

Where abouts in the UK are you? So sweet of your mum to buy you a mother's day bracelet.

I hope you are both ok Poppy and Nandos.

We're sitting here watching Thomas the TE DVD.

I'm feeling more or less ok most of the time (loving nesquick milkshakes and cheese at the moment). I am eight weeks today. I have no idea whether things are ok or not - my boobies are aching like mad still. Last time the MC had happened at 6 weeks but I didn't bleed until nearly 12 weeks and had symptoms right up until then. I haven't heard anything about a scan yet. I'm too scared to book a private one. Is that mad? I don't know.

Hi guys

Wasn't able to reply y'day as was on the overnight ferry on the way to the UK Back until Friday which is lovely.
I did another test earlier, and now there is literally only a shadow of a line, so am presuming it's definately another cp. Bleeding has continued.
Becky tbh, I feel really pissed off. I can't believe this has happened twice now But, I keep reminding myself that there would've been a reason for this to have happened, ie it wasn't right, and so along with being pissed off I am relieved that it's happened now, and that I didn't get myself all excited only for it to go wrong later.

I know that we can conceive, it's just that each conception seems to be a bad one iykwim. Goodness knows how we managed to produce ds, but thank god we did.
I've been taking those progesterone supplements for the last two months, but I'm just going to stop now. It's been a real pain taking them, and they make me feel sooo sleepy that I just can't be bothered. Surely pregnancy should be easier than this

Sorry about the me post... How are all of you? Becky am so glad you're doing okay and not feeling too sick. Have you got a date for the scan yet?

Poppy how are you feeling? Thanks for the hug by the way, it was muchly needed. It's lovely to be back in the UK but I miss dh loads, esp with what's been going on. Re preventing cp's I don't think there is a way. The gynae suggested the clomid to give me more of a chance to have a viable conception. We weren't going to resort to that yet, but with the way things are going I'm more tempted by the day. I have the prescription sat in my bag......

Better go, mum is wanting to order me a bracelet off the internet to make up for the mothers day pressie that dh didn't get me! Bless her!

Hope you okay too Nandos Was thinking about you today, and your little baby kicking. Am sooo sooo happy for you that it's all working out x

Hello everyone!
mbm??? How confusing. You must have had the pg hormones in you so an egg must have been fertilized. I think you should go back to your doctor to talk about this. Have you done another test since this morning? How do you feel today?

How are you the rest of you? What are you all up to today?

We're bored of the Easter hols already...we're watching Thomas the TE DVD.

I'm feeling ok: a bit more sicky this week so that is good. I think I am soooo lucky (if this little bean is going to stick with me) that my MS is very mild.

Oh MBM I'm so sorry to hear that.
I think you should go to your doctor for advice and hopefully get your mind put at rest one way or another. Did they mention in the past if there was any help they could give to prevent cp's from happening? (((hugs))) poppy x

Morning!
How is everyone? It's been v quiet on this thread

I'm afraid I need a bit of advice. Got a v faint +ve (again) on Friday, and a slightly bolder one Saturday. (Still only just there if you know what I mean.) Started spotting yesterday, and heavier bleeding today. Before I noticed the heavier bleeding I'd already tested, but didn't bother to look at it coz I presumed it would now be -ve, but have just gone back into the bathroom and seen that it's now a definate line, stronger than Saturdays, although still pretty faint. I just don't know what is going on . Any idea's?
I have been feeling a little sick for the last week or so, but then not yesterday or today so far. I don't 'feel' pregnant, whereas on Friday for no reason I just burst into tears at work.
Am so frustrated, just want to know either way. I feel like I'm going mad! I would've mentioned the +ve on Friday to you all, but I wanted to be more sure before 'announcing' anything!
Any advice? Am trying to stay calm, but am scared it's another cp. In which case it's just not normal is it, to have two in a row? Do you think I should go back to my doctor? I just don't know what to do....

Hope you all okay? Becky how are you feeling?

Becky We should definately meet up! I don't know what I'd do without you all on this thread. It would be mad to finally meet though wouldn't it! The only person I've met so far in RL through MN is so lovely, and I know that all of you will be too, should we ever be able to manage a get together!
By the way, where is your dad's caravan? My Grandad has a chalet in Porthmadoc (sp?), and my brother and I grew up going there every year and just loved it! It was a caravan then and it was so much fun! Am v envious!

Poppy I had't heard about the new drugs, I must ask mum if it's been mentioned to her. Her condition is complicated by many different factors though, so I'm not sure whether she'd be a candidate or not. It's just so upsetting that they can't just give her something to make her better . Do you think you will try those drugs after a possible next dc?
That's lovely re your friend

Nandos That's so lovely that the baby' kicking. It's such a wonderful feeling!

No sign of my AF yet Having said that it'll probably start this afternoon!

Have to go as have just brought our classroom goldfish back for a holiday here and so have to rescue them from their plastic bags! DS is going to love them

Ooohh Becky forgot to answer your Q - ds and I are going back to UK with dad on Monday and then coming back here on Good Friday. Have just arranged for my lovely RL-MN friend to come over with her family for Easter Sunday!

Have a good arvo all xxx

Hi all

Poppy thank you that's really cheered me up! I've now given the cold to DH! Poor thing went to work in a flurry of sneezes this morning.

Do any of you have any plans for the Easter hols? Next week we're just going to hang around at home. I have to go to a funeral on Thursday in Northamptonshire. A ex-colleague of mine from the days of full-time pre-children work sadly died this week of a brain tumour. He'd been battling it for over ten years (actually since before I knew him) so it was very sad to hear that he'd finally lost the battle. He'd been a bit of an inspiration. The week after that we might have a few days in Wales in my dad's caravan. The DSs are soooo excited. I think I need to do lots of things to fill the time until I get a scan. I have no idea when that will be. I'm as nervous as hell, esp since the MS has eased more recently (still a background sicky feeling but nothing like it was last week).

What would I do without being able to chat to you guys???? I feel so lucky to have this thread and to have 'met' you all. One day we really meet up. That would be fun

becky sending (((hugs))) for your cold it is horrid when you are pg, tired and feeling poorly all at the same time AND 2 ds's to look after. You take care and hope you feel better soon.

MBM sorry to hear your mum is so bad. One of the ladies I am friendly with on an arthritis internet forum was a solicitor, young with 2 dd's and she ended up so bad with arthritis (stills disease) that she ended up in a wheelchair and took medical retirement. Now she is on one of the new Anti TNF drugs (v expensive about £10,000) a year so it is a lottery who gets them and you need to have failed on 2 anti disease modifying drugs first to be considered for these BUT she has had fairly good success and while she is still ill, she no longer uses the wheelchair unless it is a very very bad day. So quite a good resuly. Obviously there are side effects, but arthur is so bad that it is usually worth the gamble.

I have been told I qualify for these drugs too but you cannot ttc and take them as they are so toxic so I am playing the waiting game!

nandos isn't it exciting when you feel the baby kick. It makes it all so real

I am just back from the school easter service at the church and my friend is going to be a granny again in June and she was showing me a 4d picture of the baby which they have found out is a girl. It was amazing the detail. Exciting times.

Got to go again now as it is nearly time to collect ds from school.
xxx

ps. Poppy Just told my dad about your ds and he laughed very much

LOL re Gary!

Hope you feel better soon Becky, and woohoo for those boobies!!! Bet DH is happy!

Hello all, I am about dead on my feet with DS1's cold. Man flu more like! DH is rushing home to take over but he says he's coming down with it too. Oh dear. We are a sorry household. DS1 is still not better. DS2 is fine!

My boobies are growing. I'm quite happy with them at the moment as they are normally fairly average.

I want a duvet!!!!!

Poppy I laughed so much at your DS's sky comment. How funny!

mbm perhaps you are destined not to see Take That! If you were to get preggers then you'd have to call your second child, if it is a boy, Gary, Mark, or whatever the other ones are called I forgot!

Right, off to blow my nose, again.

hello everyone!
been packed with loads of work that i almost forgot abt MN discussions!
Poppy, so sweet of your ds how old is he? Am not too sure abt arthritis but im sure its painful to live with is there any cure for it or can medicine just reduce the pain?
Becky 7 weeks hope you are doing fine..dont worry abt MS cos' it sucks big time..
MBM if you think its better to stay off ttc first, then do it cos' it definitely makes you n dh relax too. hopefully it will happen soon when the time is right..

am feeling ok atm and yeah after much complaining last week abt my bump not showing, now it is and baby tends to kick suddenly and randomly to give me a shock at times.now only thing that needs to grow now is my bbs lol
also dh coming for a visit tmr! yayyy cant wait to give him a hug
got to go now and sleep soon..a bit late over here..
goodnite all

LOL Poppy at your ds Bless him!

Becky try not to worry re feeling a bit better. It's good that you're not feeling so grotty, and didn't you say you didn't feel too bad when pg with the ds's? Could be that it's a pregnancy just like those were.
Have you got a scan booked?

Poppy that sounds interesting re the course, what exactly does it involve? My mum's arthritis is now so bad that she's confined to a wheelchair most of the time You are brave to be talking about it in front of people you don't know.
Have a lovely party tonight won't you! Any eastery plans you can share? I'm taking 21 4, 5, and 6 year olds tomorrow and Friday at school, and am thinking up easter stuff to do...

Nandos How are you doing? Hope all is well with you and your bump

My AF is due tomorrow (I think), but then am going to hold off trying for the next two months as it's dad's 60th at the end of May and mum has booked a big night out (top secret!!!) which I absolutely do not want to miss! The following month I'm going to see Take That Hooray!!!! I know it sounds v sad stopping ttc for Take That but I've decided to try to be more relaxed about the whole thing, and I also keep telling myself that we are in no rush... Also, I tried to go to see them in 2006 when just pg with ds, but to cut a long story very short I wasn't able to. I am determined to get there this year! Tbh I do feel a bit panicked about not trying... I'll probably cave in after dad's b'day, and then knowing my luck won't be able to go to TT as I'll be throwing up!

Wow becky 7 weeks that has whizzed by. How is your cold? Hope you are feeling a bit better. Do you have a date for an early scan or will you need to wait until 12 weeks?

I have been out all morning at my parents house waiting for exam papers to be delivered and signed for my mum as she is a marker. Was out last night on a Challenging your condition course for my arthritis which last for 6 weeks. Think it will be quite interesting but it is hard having to discuss yourself and how your illness impacts your life in front of strangers. Still we were all in the same boat so it was ok. Tonight my girlguides are hosting an Easter party for the local brownies so it will be another busy evening and I will need to take ds with me as dh has his exam tonight for his amateur radio licence. All go. Off to hang out some more washing now.

Take care

ps Ds came home from school the other day and said they had to draw a picture and write about something they were thankful for. Ds said he thanked God for the sky and his Wii. When I asked him what colour did he draw the sky and did he draw clouds or anything he said "no mummy, I drew Sky tv, that's what I was thankful for" what can you say to that.

Hello all! I'm feeling ok, too ok in fact, so I'm worried that feeling better is not a good sign I have a stinky cold at the moment thanks to DS1. I'm seven weeks today.

Am off to bed now, but just wanted to say hi to you all and see how you were doing?

Becky How are you feeling?

Love to all, and hope you're okay. Have my dad here at mo so v limited on computer time!
xxx

Good morning! The dreams are strange: last night DH had an affair in my sleep and I just said to him 'oh well, whatever!'

I don't feel as sicky as many people do so I think I am lucky really. Eating marmalade on toast at the moment. I'm still convinced it is all going to go wrong at about 11 weeks again... oh if only I had a time machine!

The worry never stops - that is so true Poppy. I remember once when DS1 was about 12 months he wouldn't eat his tea and I was getting cross with him and he managed a few mouthfulls and then threw up everywhere and I felt so bad for not realising he wasn't feeling well.

It is strange going back to school, isn't it? I had a school reunion in September and it was so strange seeing all the very familiar faces but everyone looking 20 years older. No more drop perms, hoop earrings, and shoulder pads (showing my age here!).

DH is away in Leeds last night and today but back by lunchtime. I'm looking forward to a sleep as soon as he gets back!

Oh becky sorry to hear you are still feeling sicky it really is vile feeling naseaus all the time - but it will be worth it. Hope your horrible dreams stop soon.

nandos 22 weeks that seems to have flown in (well to the "virtual" observers) more than half way there!
ps - you are right - not all newborns are gorgeous!

mbm hope you are well.

My ear feels great after the syringing on wed morn. It is amazing to hear clearly again and the horrible ringing noise has gone as well thank goodness.

Have had a bit of a strange week. Last weekend ds began doing a funny sort of facial tic/grimace on and off and by sun night it was happening a lot. I was asking him to stop, he was getting upset and then doing it more. It went on all week and on wed night it was parents night at his school and even his teacher mentioned she seen him doing it at the theatre but when asked he said he was ok. That night he was up screaming in pain with his ear. Thur kept him off school nad went to docs for a check up but the tic seemed to vainsh overnight. Dr said it may have been sore ear affecting muscles in face and being young and also having a language prob he may not have been able to verbalise this. I felt awful for thinking it was maybe a tic/some sort of habit when he was prob in pain. Oh the worry never stops.

Tonight I have just come back from a presentation at my old high school as they are knocking it down in the summer having built a new one and this was a night for old pupils to come along and have a last tour round grin] OMG can't believe how much it has changed and also how many parts are still the same and I left nearly 19 yrs ago Also seen some blasts from the past! V interesting night.

ps squirrels seem to be in hiding at the mo no chewing sounds keeping me awake at night. Just dh's snoring

crashes in
hello m2o been thinking about you recently how's things?

Hello everyone! How are you all doing? I'm sitting here watching TV rather than working while DS2 has his sleep. I'm not feeling too bad at the moment, the nausea comes and goes: worst in the morning and at tea time. I'm just count myself lucky so far at least the sickness isn't worse than it is, just on and off nausea with the odd 'errr I might be sick' feeling. Nandos I think you are amazing to cope so stoically with your sickness and still at 22 weeks. I'm only 6 weeks and 2 days today (not that I am counting) and I keep remembering the last time. I felt just as sick last time (ironically I didn't have much sickness with either DS1 or DS2). I keep having dreams about bleeding and losing the baby. I'm just trying to hold tight until I get to hear a heartbeat.

DH is away in Leeds overnight tonight so I hope I have enough energy to get everyone to bed tonight and feed myself. So far I've been relying on DH to take over at about 6pm.

Poppy I hope your ears are better and you are feeling better.

Have a good weekend everyone xx

M2O! so long havent heard from you! how r u doing?
poppy, good to hear you feeling better..take a lot of rest till you are back in good health. naughty squirrels btw..i dont know what i'll do if it was me in that house. i might give them nuts instead! i think dh would too lol he loves to feed squirrels almonds in the park..
MBM, quite true what you said..ppl with big bumps will want it slightly smaller and ppl with small bumps want the opposite. i just feel tired all the time and wish my bump is slightly bigger so ppl can give me a seat in the train when i feel faintish..how sad is that?
becky, im still not sure abt going through hell horrible morning sickness in pregnancy cos' i havent got a baby in my arms yet but im sure it will be worth it. i've stopped complaining abt my ms but since you asked, im still throwing up at 22wks now crap isnt it?
btw one of my cousin just gave birth to a baby boy yesterday and we saw her baby..sooo sooo soo cute! forgive me for saying these but i've seen some ugly newborns but hers is really one cute baby her younger sis is also due next mth so cant wait to see hers as well..its gonna be a girl..

Hello everyone!

mbm I love you long posts!

m2o hello!!!!

Poppy I can't imagine having squirrels. The only footsteps I hear at night above my head are DS2 pottering about in his bedroom (when he should be asleep).

Nandos please tell me feeling like shit will be worth it! How do you feel now? Has your sickness completely gone now?

Six weeks today! Yeah! I haven't found out about an early scan yet. I have my drs appointment on Tuesday so will ask then. To be honest I'm still living on Planet Denial despite the obvious physical symptoms which are nothing compared to what other people get I know but I am a total winger when it comes to feeling sick. Bleugh. Bleugh. I was watching Mistresses last night and I couldn't watch when they got a wine bottle out! I wanted to die under the duvet (I was wallowing on the settee with duvet and cup of tea).

I really, really, really, really hope Poppy, mbm and m2o you can all join me and Nandos in the pregnancy club soon.

Oh Poppy you poor thing I'm glad you are feeling a lot better, but it does seem that you've been under the weather for a while now - you must be feeling fed up.
Can easily relate to your over the squirrels - it's awful being woken up by their loud noises. We had what I think was rats in the attic and dh went to get some poison for them (we were desperate!) but rather than tying these massive blocks of industrial rat poison down he just chucked them up there and for the next few nights not only were we woken by the bloody rats but also by them chucking these blocks around I was not happy with dh! Also, it didn't seem to work They must be huge rats
Your reiki lady sounds wonderful, and that's great that she's given you some hope for the future. Sometimes that can work wonders.

M2O HELLO!!!!!!!!! Are you coming back to join us or was that just a quick peep in and dash out again? We miss you on here! Hope your boiler has been mended? It's certainly not the weather to have that happen...

Nandos Whatever the size of your bump you will always feel like it's not right - I was MASSIVE with ds and people constantly commented on it - at 6 months they were describing me as ready to pop If you have a small bump, you'll always want a bigger one, and if you have a big one you'll be feeling like it's too big. You just can't win! The only thing that really is important is that your baby, and you of course, are healthy and happy. Bump size does not matter... I bet when you're around 39 weeks you'll be looking back wistfully and wishing it was smaller so you could actually move around
Haven't got a clue when my AF is due, I think it's sometime next week. I hate not knowing what's going on... Am really confused as I'm pretty sure I ov'd last week sometime, but then have had EWCM again today Must just be messed up after last month...

Becky Am sorry and glad at the same time that you're feeling crap! You're right - concentrating on getting through it will help you stop thinking about things going pear shaped... Did I ask you already if you can have an early scan? If so, when will it be? You should be able to see the heartbeat pretty soon Ooohhh it's so exciting!

Right, must go and empty the dishwasher now... Yuk.
Can't wait for AF to start so we can get cracking again next month!
Have a good day all!
xxx

Hi Ladies

Sorry I haven't been on but have been ill with a chest infection. It gradually got worse last week and I ended up having to go to the dr's to get antibiotics as it felt like someone was sitting on my chest. Feeling a lot better now but still a bit hoarse.

We have been demented with the squirrels in the loft and last week dh found the bit of the roof the had chewed to get in and put up metal grating to keep them out but they are so fierce and bold that when he was up the ladder putting it on one of them was running down the roof trying to attack him not so cute and cuddly! It went on for days being woken in middle of night to rapping sound of it trying to get in. We had a cage in the loft to trap them but they managed to tip it over, scoff all the food and run away . Eventually dh's brother appeared with an air gun and dh went out one night seen squirrel, pointed gun, squirrel ran off and so far hasn't been back, so hopefully that will be the end of it as the last thing we want to do is harm them we just want rid of them.

Also meant to say my reiki session last week was great. Lady was lovely and I ended up being there for hours as she is also a medium and she began talking to my gran who passed away 7 years ago. The stuff she said was amazing and things and names she could never have guessed in a million years. She also said she say me having another pg and the only thing that has been preventing it happen is stress. She done reiki healing and said she was drawn to clear my fallopian tubes and asked if I had ever had any probs there (not that I know). It definately gave me a boost and although I think this month will also be out due to me being ill and dh being ill with a bad cold hopefully sometime in the future things will look up

Oh what a ramble that was

becky hope your ms eases soon it is so horrid. I had it for 5 months with ds. Not good at all.

nandos you will blossom soon and your feet will be unseen for months

mbm how are you?

m2o good to hear from you hope you are well.

I am off to dr's tomorrow to have my ear syringed and more blood tests oh the joys!

Just a quick post to say hello to you all

Am at home today cos boiler is broke and its fReEzInG!!!!

xx

Thanks mbm Feel sick this morning. It is like being sea sick. I can't rest though until DH gets back from work and by then the DSs go to bed anyway! I just need strength to get through this part. At least focusing on how crap I feel stops me worrying that it'll all go wrong! There's a silver lining.

No time to post more, but just wanted to send you a big ((((((((((hug)))))))))) Becky - you make sure dh looks after you, and just rest and take thing easy...

Love to all xxx

Hi everyone

Starting to feel a bit grim today and lonely as it is raining and windy and I need a hug! Starting to feel a bit sick I'm only 5 weeks 5 days so it'll get worse no doubt before it gets better. I didn't have any MS with DS1, a bit with the missed MC I had after DS1 and a bit more with DS2 and felt pretty sick with my last MC. So perhaps each one is getting that little bit worse! I am the worst person ever when it comes to sickness. I fall apart...so I hope I'm going to be ok. Feel soooo tired as well. Can't keep up with my two DSs. I think mbm and Nandos you are both so brave coping with the sickness you both have experienced with pregnancy. I need some courage from you

Nandos I grew very slowly with DS1 until about 25 weeks and then woooosh I turned into a bowling ball!

hi everyone..
MBM, when is your AF due? lets hope it doesnt arrive..

Becky, its good that you are starting to have preg symptoms to reassure yourself that you r pregnant so sweet of your DS1 i wonder if my boy would grow up to be as sweet like yours

poppy, r u feeling better now? hope your ok..

am just finished with ranting over at the antenatal post re ladies who have bumps n bbs and that i have none instead of glowing n growing, i feel like im a shrunk raisin
lets hope the glowing n growing season comes soon for the two of us u and me becky

Hi mbm it is not silly at all. DS2 was conceived the second month after I had an MC so I was convinced last summer the same would happen again! I think it is perfectly natural to see hope in patterns.

I'm glad my nose is only sensitive to strange smells (ones I can avoid) as opposed to cooking smells. Last time the smell of onions or sausages cooking made me run from the room. The DSs would never eat cooked food if that happened again!

You never know about this month. We've had months when we've been at it every other night and nada. It only takes one go!

I'm sorry your DH is so busy and tired

DS1 is helping me with the cleaning today as the PILs are due for lunch. He's mopping the floor for 20p for his piggy bank.

Ah bless dh for going on his own Becky He is a brave boy! Hope he brings you some pic'n'mix or something else nice back!

That's great that your smell is so sensitive, but poor dh! Hope your boys don't develop a phobia of being clean

I'm fine thanks, but confused... I really don't know what's going on this cycle, it's been so messed up by what happened last month. It's making me so frustrated as I think we may have missed the window of opportunity. I was really hoping that I would get pg this month, as ds was conceived 2 weeks after a CP, and all went well. Have somehow got it in my mind that I need to have a CP before another successful pregnancy, and so this month fits the bill. It's silly isn't it
DH has been so tired in the evenings and so hasn't been up to playing 'chess' and I haven't made an issue of it coz I thought I wasn't yet ov'ing - now I think I have and we missed it . Played chess on tuesday, but unless those swimmers have a pretty long life then I don't think I'm in with a chance.

Poppy and Nandos hope you're having lovely weekends whatever you're doing!

Is anyone doing anything nice for mothers day? Think dh has forgotten and so don't know whether to mention it to him or not as don't want to make him feel bad... He's planning on playing golf tomorrow so no lovely day out for me!

I'm ok! Hungry all the time. Can't stand the smell of DH when he gets ready in the morning. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. He is quite upset! It must be male deodorant or something. I was telling the DSs today that I don't like the smell of 'clean daddies' and they thought that was very funny. Also very tired! But generally quite well considering! How are you mbm? How are you Poppy - is your voice / throat better yet? Nandos what are you up to?

DH is going to see 'Watchmen' by himself tonight. I'm staying home to babysit and poor DH can't find anyone else to go with him. He so badly wants to see that film. It is really geeky though so I'm not too bothered about being left at home!

Morning Becky How are you feeling?

Boo everyone! You're all very quiet at the moment

Oooh Nandos wow! I was sure it was a girl. My instincts are well off. Boys are lovely (not that I am at all biased having two upstairs getting ready for bed). They are so loving and cuddly.

You lot are going to think I'm barmy but I just did another pregnancy test because I feel so normal and fine! It was positive. I know it is early still and perhaps in two weeks time I'll be here moaning about how shit I feel but I am sure I felt strange symptoms by now before: taste in my mouth, totally knackered, hating coffee (I still like coffee). DH says I am worrying unnecessarily and I can't influence whether this is a keeper or not. Whatever will be will be and all that.

I hope you enjoy Pork Thing if you make it mbm! I love it.

Poppy your reiki sessions sounds amazing. It must have been very strange / wonderful at the same time receiving messages for you and your family. I totally believe in angels and spirits watching out for us.

Aki the cat had her post-op checkup today. She's doing fine but she's been licking her wounds a bit! But can I get one of those big collars on her? Can I men's bits!

Anyway, better go, tea time soon. We're having stir fry tonight.

Oh, I've totally gone off orange juice. Now that is weird!

Congratulations Nandos!!! What great news!!! You must be very surprised seeing as you were so sure it was going to be a girl! What did dh say? You must both be thrilled!
Have you already got names in mind?

Hope you're having a good rest now! Oh well done you!!!!! Am so happy that all is well

Becky Might have to try that one - will call it pork thing in this house too (in your honour of course ) if you'd like? How are you doing today??

Poppy Are you feeling any better? Did you manage to make the Reiki session?

All fine here, had a busy day and dh has now gone to the gym, so off to entertain ds it is .

Love to all x

Congratulations nandos boys are great

Now you can think of names

Have you phoned your dh and told him yet? Bet he will be delighted.

You enjoy your rest now and we can hear the rest of your news tmr.

I have had a lovely day. Went to lady for reiki at 11am and didn't leave her house till 2.30. It was fab. Got a meditation, then reiki and after that we were chatting about angels etc when she asked me if I knew a lady in spirit called Jean (my gran) and ended up giving me loads of messages and info from her and other family in spirit. Some of the info was v specific so have been feeling quite uplifted since then.

xxx

hey everyone!
came back from the appt and rested for a while so now am updating my news from the hospital

its a Boy!

everyone except one of our close friend thinks its a girl so its a real shock..

i will try to post longer tmr hopefully as its getting late now and feeling a bit sleepy atm..

goodnite n take care

Pork thing is pork chops, leaks covered in sliced potatoes with chicken stock all cooked in a big pot in the oven for 1 hour 1/2 and served in our house with baked beans!

LOL re pork thing Becky. What is it??

DH ended up cooking bangers and mash, yum yum! Have just watched the last in the series of Lark Rise to Candleford, and am now off to bed! You are right about the chilling - you must try not to worry. What will be will be, and your job at the moment is just to ride the waves and see where they take you. Keep repeating 'chill' to yourself, and let's think positively...
Hope that makes sense!

Lots of love and night night xxx

Hi everyone!

I haven't had sickness on any degree as bad as you mbm, mostly just all-day nausea with the the odd dry retching with my last MC (actually felt most sick with the last MC than did with either DS1 or DS2 - no sickness at all with DS1). I thought you were so brave coping with your sickness mbm and Nandos too over Christmas and January. I'm now worrying I feel too awake and 'normal'. Oh dear! Life is just one constant worry. I'm only 4 weeks and 4 days! STOP WORRYING!!!!! I think I need to try to just chill and take each day as it comes. I am sooo happy to have had a positive mixed with completely paranoid it is going to go wrong. I'm just a mixed bag of emotions right now. I've been crying at the slightest thing too.

mbm glad you've stopped bleeding: 12 days is a long time. I think a month of just doing whatever and enjoying yourselves sounds like a good idea. What are you cooking? DH is cooking me a meal we call 'Pork Thing'. It is a meal his Italian Grandma used to cook but I don't think it is particularly Italian! I'm starving hungry.

Hi girls!

Just a v short one as have to cook supper, but just wanted to say a quick hello!

Becky am so glad tiredness is starting to set in, and try not to worry about the sickness, it'll (hopefully ) happen, and however bad it is you WILL get through it. Just take each day at a time... How badly did you get it with the ds's?

Nandos Good Luck for tomorrow!!! It's a shame dh can't be there, but then it'll be lovely for you to be able to tell him what the sex is. I can't wait to find out! Have you felt the baby kick yet? It's the most amazing feeling .

Oh Poppy poor you! It's awful having no voice... You make sure you're resting lots - is dh running round looking after you? I do hope so! That's positive news about the test results, at least they can do something next time to help prevent another mc. How do you feel about the results?

All is fine with me, have had a lovely day today out in the garden, spring cleaning the terrace. We've only been here a year, and with last year being such a write-off I didn't really get anything done outside, so this year it's all go! DH has been trying to fill in the pond so it's safer for ds as he'll be out and about more this year, but unfortunately there's already frogspawn in it, so we'll have to rehome them all first . Next door have a pond and I'm sure they'll take them! Anyway, had a lovely day, and am feeling very relaxed which is good! Only thing is my cycle is so messed up - the bleeding has just about stopped now after my CP (lasted 12 days ) but I haven't a clue where I am and therefore when we should be trying. Think will just write this month off for trying, and enjoy ourselves instead .

Can't wait to hear how you get on tomorrow Nandos! Good luck again, am sooo excited!

xxx

Hello!

I haven't told the DSs. I didn't tell them last time I was pregnant and was glad I didn't in the end as I can't imagine trying to explain an MC to them. So I'm going to try to keep quiet until at least 12 weeks if I get that far this time. I have told my mum and blarted it out to a friend on Friday because she asked me if I wanted any more children and I am totally crap at keeping secrets. But besides that I'm going to try to keep it secret for as long as I can bare to! I feel more or less ok so far, still in shock, feel a bit strange and the tiredness is starting to kick in (had a nap after lunch today), am terrified of getting MS as I always am because I am a total, complete and utter wimp when it comes to sickness. But we'll see.

Poppy poor you with chest infection and no voice. I'll send you get better vibes if I can!

Nandos can't wait to hear the sex of your little one! It is very exciting.

MBM how are you?

poppy ..
poor you..did u see a gp for your chest infection etc? hope you get better v.soon and do see a gp if it gets worse.. am worried for you.

its good that you went to see the mc consultant cos' they tell you exactly the problem and to go take specific meds once you found out you r pregnant.

i've been eating and sleeping whole day cos' feel soo tired. am like an owl now
re finding out the sex, hate surprises..except for certain romantic things so am looking forward in knowing the sex and telling dh over the phone tmr. too bad he couldnt make it to my appt but hope hes happy with either one result(boy/girl).

becky, i am also betting on a girl baby seems gentle n small to me atm so am thinking its not a boy
MBM, how r u hunny? hope you are well too.

Hi sorry I've not been on we have had probs with the computer and it is currently in shop being looked at. This is our temp one dh has set up.

becky wow congratulations I am delighted for you I am sure this one will be fine. This is v exciting news indeed. Have you told ds's yet or are you waiting a bit?

MBM sending you hugs. Imagine your gynae suggesting clomid. That seems so much more than they do here!

nandos good luck with the scan. Do you really want to know the sex? I loved the surprise of not knowing but my friends daughter had one of those 4d scans and found out then so they were v organised when baby came with names and clothes etc.

I got another letter from recurrent mc consultant yest to say that my last bloods have come back borderline for the lupus anticoagulant and the anticardiolipin antibodies so following a positive pg test in the future it will be aprin and hep injections for me!

I have been ill all week with chest infec which had now left me with no voice which is a nightmare. Hoping to be able to manage to go for my reiki (healing energy) tomorrow as I need it now more than ever.

Have a good weekend and again becky well done!!!

xx

MBM thank you! I am still in shock. I can't concentrate on anything. Is it really true? I hope this is a sticker too. I'm finding it so hard not to tell the world but I must try. Crumbs we're talking 4weeks2days!!!! Big, big hug to you for tomorrow. I'll be thinking about you. So nice of your friend to send you a nice text. I much prefer people to do things like that than just say nothing at all for fear of causing upset. Crying is good for you. It's all part of the grieving process. I cry very easily but always feel better for a good cry.

I don't know anything about clomid really except that I thought it was just for people who are struggling to ovulate. But by what Nandos says it might be a good move for you?

Poppy I hope you are feeling better. I get mouth ulcers sometimes, just one at a time though, and they are very painful. I'm sending you get better vibes.

Nandos very excited to find out your baby's gender!!! I bet on a girl!

Becky, congrats!!!
thats really wonderful news..
you must be over the moon
MBM, thats good news re being prescribed clomid i think.. its not just for ppl who dont ovulate cos' i do ovulate but it also increases the chances of eggs being released..especially since dh's swimmers r not so good.
poppy hope you get well soon..do drink lots of water for the mouth ulcer..it helps..btw what is reiki?
sorry didnt get to post for so long..am too embarassed to go to MN and start my ranting so decided to keep quiet for a while
btw dh might be coming over for a visit to SG am soooo soo happy well 'might' is good enough for me..gives me hope
also got my antenatal appt at the hosp. it was initially dated april! but when they asked me when my last menstrual cycle was, and i replied october, they decided to change it to this coming monday!
hope everything turns out fine cos' i am soo worried but at the same time looking forward for the scan. will tell you ladies our baby gender if they can see it clearly

take care all n good night!

Just seen this Becky, and have to repeat, OH MY GOD and HOORAY!!!!!!! Let's hope this one is a sticker

What wonderful news, esp on a Friday! Got the weekend to look forward to, and some fab news that's made me feel like jumping round the kitchen like a loon Actually, that sounds quite a good idea, bet ds would love it!

How are you both Nandos and Poppy? Poppy is completely normal for you to be feeling like that re your cousin. As we know only too well life is just not fair sometimes... Sorry to hear you've been feeling poorly too, poor you. I hope the reiki session helps, it should do .

Well, I went to see my gynae again on Wednesday after what happened last week. He's so nice, but a wee bit crazy all at the same time. DS loves going there as he gets given blood test tubes/syringes/pen drawings on his hand. Think my gynae actually spends more time talking to DS than me, but that's fine by me . Anyway, he's given me a prescription for Clomid . I said immediately that afaik it's for people who don't ov, and he said yes that's true, but that if I took it I would have a higher chance of having a fertilisation occur that actually manages to implant etc. Obv, the risk is higher that we would have twins, esp seeing as I ov anyway... God knows how many eggs I'd produce if I took it! He would scan me on CD12 and if I had three follicles or less then dh and I could try, but if I had more then he would tell us to hold fire. Then, if I got pg with triplets they would take one away. Not sure I like that idea though .
DH and I have talked about it, and have decided not to take it yet as we want to see if we can get there ourselves. I would feel uncomfortable taking the Clomid seeing as we don't seem to have a problem conceiving. We haven't ruled it out completely though - we are just going to see how we feel in a few months time. I quite like the idea of having twins though .
What do you all think of that? Is so unlike the UK over here - this guy seems to want me to get pg asap!

Anyway, must go and crack on with some work while ds is asleep. Lots of love to you all, and will be back on soon.

By the way, tomorrow was the due date of the baby we lost in September. Am feeling ok about it I think. Think am still numb about it really. My friend that was due on the same day had a little boy on Wednesday, and that was wonderful but upsetting for me all at the same time. She sent me a lovely text saying that she wishes I was there to share with her (she's in the US). It made me cry

xxx

I'M PREGNANT!!!!!! At least I'm two days late and just done a test and it is positive! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! I don't feel at all pregnant and in fact this morning I had a really strong coffee and it tasted lovely.

Hi becky poor Aki having her op. I always feel so cruel when I need to take my cat to the vet as she really really hates it

I hope your af stays away. Mine is definately brewing. My boobs have been v sore for the last few days and I am not due till next wk (I think) I am starting to lose track.

Was feeling pretty grim yesterday as I have a throat infec and am deaf and ringing sound in one ear and mouth full of ulcers. Went to gp who says I need ear syringed as it is blocked hydrocortisone tabs for ulcers and blood tests ordered to check underlying cause Wouldn't be stress would it
Was also pretty mad last night as I got a phone call from my gran saying that my cousin who is a bit and never visits came to see her with her mum yesterday to announce she is preg. She was 20 yesterday and lives with boyfriend and his gran, doesn't work and has many "issues". It is a bit of a mystery "why now" but hey ho this will be a shock to her system. Have to admit to being a cross between horrified and jealous of her but won't be admitting that to loads of people

Anyway on a happy note I have booked myself a session with a reiki healer on monday and I am really looking forward to it. Also had a lovely weekend visiting friends I used to work with and their families. Good to catch up with everyone.

nandos and mbm hope you are well.
xx

I thought I posted a long message here last week but it isn't here! How are you all? MBM how are you feeling?

My AF due today. No show yet but not pregnant as far as my body is telling me. On antibiotics again because apparently according to my dentist I've had an infection in my bone and tooth for about 1-2 years and I didn't know it and I might lose the tooth so she thinks it is worth one more dose of antibiotics to see if I can get rid of it and heal the bone under the tooth. I cried when she told me I might lose a tooth. I was very embarrassed.

Everything else is ok. Work is very full on. Aki the cat is going to have her op tomorrow. How bad do I feel about that? Here's me dying for a baby and I am depriving my cat of ever having any!

Ooh yes defo Becky I agree! I would love to see your hair, both of you!

Poppy Your poor ds That's horrible and you must be really upset. Has anything happened since the boy was spoken to? Hope your ds is okay...

Nandos 19 weeks Where has the time gone to?!?! Can't wait to hear whether it's a girl - are you going to find out or wait and have a surprise? You must be getting excited now!

Becky How are you doing?

Things are v weird with me - am still just spotting and not come on properly... Am trying to remember what happened when I had that CP before getting pg with DS - I remember the bleeding lasted for 13 days but not a lot else! My cycle is so messed up this month Am feeling rather pissed off and disheartened today - I just cannot be bothered with all the palava of ttc. Am thinking that maybe I'm just not meant to have another baby Can't actually believe that I could get pg again and have everything go right. God I was lucky to have such a straightforward pregnancy with ds. Why does it have to be so difficult for us when there are people out there who get pg so easily???

Right, rant over - am off to cook shepherds pie for supper. I don't really have an appetite at the mo, but apparently dh is starving and is due home shortly...

What are you all up to this weekend? Hope you're doing lots of nice things!

Oooh Nandos and Poppy I think you should either put a photo up of your long hair to your elbows / new haircut up on your profiles here or join Facebook. I want to see what you look like! I know what mbm and m2o look like thanks to Facebook.

Nandos I can't believe you are 19 weeks. Nearly half way there!! Wow. I wonder if it is a girl. I'm going to bet on a girl. Just call it a gut feeling And not showing??? Wow! I must admit I was like that with DS1. With DS2 you could tell at about 12 weeks.

Poppy, the boys that bullied your ds should be totally suspended from school
poor kid..it must be traumatic for him.
glad you had a haircut, my hair is like upto my elbows now need to trim them till shoulder length..
re squirrels i didnt know they can create so much trouble..knew them only as cute furry creatures looking for nuts to eat

MBM and Becky hope you two are ok.. MBM we r here if u need us..

MBM (((hugs))) so sorry to hear about your cp. So blooming unfair.

nandos 19 weeks omg that seems to have flown in (well maybe to us).
Good luck when you see the specialist. Will they scan you again?
My friend is 31 wks now and it is really exciting.

becky lol at the blue cow story. My dh loved them. We are all spongebob now!

Just had a haircut and feel so much better now I can see out of fringe again! Have had a vile week. Ds got punched on mouth at school in mon by a v bad boy in his class. Went to school next day to report it. Yest he came out of school with scratch down side of nose. Same boy shoved a traffic cone into his face. Again reported it. School phoned last night to say they would speak to boys. Today got call from his teacher who says other boy admitted it and he will be getting detention. The other child is renowned for his behaviour and language so hopefully now he will stay away from ds.

My other nightmare is that we now have squirrels in our loft and are going to have to have to remove them ourselves as the council "don't deal with that". They cause £6000 worth of damage to friends neighbours house by chewing wiring etc. I could scream. I am due AF a week on tues and due to high stress levels cannot see this being my month

i feel like i could breathe a bit better today yayyy
becky, shit! after u asked me then i realised im 19 weeks today i didnt even have the time to keep counting the weeks cos' too occupied with so many things..
a lot of ppl told me baby's gonna be a girl cos' im not showing at all except dh. he said i always get it all wrong i even dreamt of a baby girl so im positive its gonna be a girl
got to go now and have something to drink..
take care all

Hi all

Nandos poor you feeling sick with stress now. How many weeks are you now? You must be getting on a bit now (in weeks not in age!).

MBM big hug xxx.

Poppy how are you?

I'm just about to make some lunch for DS2 and me. We're watching Story Makers. It's a blue cow story. It's always a blue cow story.

My AF is due next Wednesday but as per I feel about as pregnant as our neutered cat does.

MBM i just saw your post after i sent mine.. am so sorry to hear that
it is so upsetting when that happens..why is it so difficult for ppl when they really want children so badly??
i really hope that they investigate the reason behind those mcs MBM and i wish you well always..

hey everyone..

Becky, happy Birthday to your DS2
MBM, good to see you back..hows the trip? also i hope AF doesnt come!
poppy, hope everything is doing fine with you..

u ladies wont believe my stress level is so high right now im puking not because of ms but due to stress its nearly 5am now and i cant get to sleep properly for the last few days.. one good news is half of my work will be completed by tmr hopefully and i will get an appt to see a specialist in hosp by this weekend.
midwife in london already kept calling dh to talk to me everyday and i am still unsure whether to go back there or stay here till birth
sorry for all the ranting but i just need this to get off my chest b4 i explode
am really thankful to MN

Just a quicky guys - hope all is well with you all?

Just wanted to let you know that I've had another CP - got a v faint line on an HPT but then started bleeding Gynae confirmed it this afternoon. Am absolutely fine though, at least I get away with more time before having to go through that awful sickness again!

Love to you all - must go as am off to drown my sorrows

Hi everyone

becky Enginuity sounds fab. My ds would love that. We have a Science centre in Glasgow which we went to last year and had great fun.

mbm hope you had a good time on holiday.

nandos hope you are ok.

xx

Hello!

We've had a fun day out today at 'Enginuity', which is a science technology type museum near Ironbridge. So I've spent a good part of today turning big wheels to generate electricity, move big wheels, etc. The DSs loved it. DH loved it more!!! While we were there the 'Telford and Wrekin Maccano Society' were having their February meeting. Oh my god! I've never seen such dedicated anoraks before in my life. They were lovely though and so happy to show the DSs their amazing maccano models.

It is DS2's birthday next week so we are having a family birthday tea for him tomorrow. DH is shopping for food now.

I hope I can persuade DH to play chess tonight. It'll probs be our last likely chance this month. AF due a week on Wed.

Hope you are all ok and enjoying the weekend.

mbm I doubt we'd move back to where we lived before. DH doesn't want to really. He felt no emotional attachment to the place like I did and we can't afford a house the size we'd need down there anymore. Ho hum. I'm very lucky though as I have lots to be thankful for and we are just about getting to know people here. It just takes time.

Hello!!!

We are back from our lovely holiday and I am now trying to tackle the washing

How are you all? It's been very quiet on here!

Becky It must be horrible wanting to move back to your old village. Is there a possibility of you being able to in the future? You are very lucky though to have such special friends.
That's great news about your friend - just the kind of story we like to hear!

Poppy Goodness me, that's a long time to be trying You really do deserve to succeed.
Did you make the cookies? Bet they were yummy! Good luck to your ds for his competition! You must be so proud!

Nandos How are you feeling? Hope all is going well and you're feeling a bit better...

All fine here, just knackered from the holiday really. AF due Tuesday, so we shall wait and see what happens

Have a good weekend all!

Hi becky what a lovely story about your friend being pg after all that time. That does inspire me as my ds will be 7 in aug and we have been ttc a sibling with no joy since he was 2 so 4.5 yrs and 2 mc's later I love hearing hopeful stories

nandos hope you are doing ok and less sore now.

Ds and I made pancakes on tues after school and we were eating them nearly as fast as cooking them
Am thinking about making some choc chip cookies later on today as getting the recipe books out has inspired me not to be so lazy

We have a busy weekend coming up as ds has his first tae kwondo competition and we also get to watch some demonstrations by the black belts so that will be good fun and he is also going to granny and granpa's for a sleepover so he is v excited.
xxx

Hi guys

I hope you are all ok. How are you Nandos? I hope your ache is better.

Poppy good news that your consultant is positive. I hope the things he suggests help.

I'm feeling really blue today because the DSs and I went to visit all our old friends in the village in Oxfordshire we used to live in and we had such a lovely day. I miss living there so much I would go back in a flash. DH just doesn't understand as he only really slept there! He didn't really have any friends there whereas the DSs and I did. It was great to see them all. I feel so sad. I did have one bit of happy news that might inspire confidence in everyone here: a friend of mine who has two DSs like me, similar ages, had been TTCing for three+ years and had one MC is now 20 weeks pg. I am sooooo happy for her. She was so down about TTCing when I lived there she had just about given up so to see her blooming with a bump was wonderful. There is hope! She had given up!

MBM, have a nice trip to Morocco! we will definitely miss you..

damn i wanna go too

poppy, yeah i think it will definitely reassure you too once you see the heartbeat in the early days in pregnancy. also i know wht you meant by the pressure is on during ovulation time.. i feel like im using dh (well in a way i did use him)

becky, aww re Aki stealing sausage hope you ladies have a nice weekend..
i still have work today damnnn

btw any of you had a butt ache in pregnancy b4? i know it sounds funny but at times when im just abt to sit down and when my butt touches the chair, it aches down my lower spine to the butt {blush] reminds me a bit of my mc tbh but that time was far worse that this cos' i couldnt even sit on the toilet seat without saying 'ouch'

ok i got to go now n get ready..take care

Hello!

A very rushed one as still haven't finished the packing and we are off to Marrakech tomorrow morning! Argh!

Poppy that's great that he seems willing to help you - and with those results then hopefully the aspirin and heparin will work... Have read about very good results with them, so hope it works for you too!

Becky and Nandos hope you're both okay, and take care!

I won't be on MN again now until next Friday (how am I going to cope???). Hope you all have a good week and don't miss me too much

Lots of love xxx

Hi nandos so glad you are feeling better now and the nausea is beginning to disappear just in time for you to start blooming Hope you get your passport soon so you can get away!

becky Good to hear you are so enthusiastic about playing "chess"
I start every month with the intention that we will just "play" when the mood takes us but then the chess madness creeps in and before I know it all spontaneus games are out the window and the pressure is on
Would really love to go back to the olden days of fun chess but am also terrified of missing the best days. It really is a madness.

Had appt with consultant re the recurrent mc's today and he went over my bloods from the last 4 times and took some more for good measure. Apparantly I am showing positive sometimes for lupus anticoagulants and sometimes positive for antiphospholipid syndrome. He doesn't want to label me with either as he says that that may have other implications but if I get pg again he would treat me as though I were and from the 1st +pg test I would start taking asprin and phone him, then he would see me for a scan and as soon as a heartbeat was detected I would start on the heparin injects. He also made it quite clear that this was not a magic wand that would prevent mc's but may help. All I need to do now is get pg which is easier said than done!!! Feel at least someone is willing to help now though so it gives me some confidence.

xx

Oh hello Nandos good to hear from you. Glad you are feeling less sicky now. It's much better isn't it when you feel more normal again.

I'm just entering prime ovulating time so might be a weekend of chess matches for me ahead. Oh joy. I should be more excited about the prospect of lots of sex chess than I feel.

I'm glad it is Friday. Half-term is nearly over. I've had a good week with both the DSs but I think we're all ready to return to normal life next week.

My naughty little kitty is trying my patience. I've lifted her off the diningroom table soooo many times. The other day DH went to answer the front door in the middle of his tea and I was watching TV and Aki stole a sausage off his plate! She's worse than a dog!!!

hey all
naughty little kitty becky! i meant your kitty, not you
poppy, that AF need to stop coming back or else i'll beat her
MBM, cake.. yummy! chocolate cake?
i am fine thx for asking..better now and sickness reduced a lot. just occasional gagging after brushing and that too i mastered the art of not throwing up by spitting slowly lol
need to tell dh to send my passport asap, hes reaching london this weekend i think. my parents r going away this weekend for a wk and my bro 2 so im getting desperate to get out of here!
still bz with work n not over till next wk so am hoping to get a short getaway after i get my passport
am off to watch tv, just got home n dead tired ..take care all

Hello!

How are you all today?

Poppy thanks, yes, my mate got checked right and proper . We have completed our bd 'fest' for this month, a measly three times so let's hope one of them was timed right! So sorry that AF got you - this run of AF's seem neverending for you and Becky. I hope it ends soon...

Becky LOL re cat, bet she is still cute even while biting you! Happy Birthday DH for y'day, that's lovely that you went to see him for lunch. Bet he was thrilled!

Nandos Good to hear from you, how is everything? Have you had any more bleeding? Hope not...

Right, have to crack on now - have got one cake in the oven (for ds's creche tomorrow) and then have to do another one later for a friend who's coming to stay. Also have house to tidy, beds to make up, and packing to do as we go away on Saturday morning!!!! Hooray! Sooooo much to do before then though, and tbh all I want to do at the mo is go and have a sleep

There is a cat biting my knee as I sit and type this.

Today is DH's birthday and we've just had a cake eating, present opening session. He got so many DVDs! The DSs and I went to Birmingham on the train to have lunch with him at work as he couldn't take a day off. It was a lot of fun but really rather stressful too! Poor DS2 only has little legs, he did so well. I treated them to a Thomas the TE book each in Waterstones.

I'm cooking DH his birthday tea now: Japanese food. I am sitting here this time last year remembering TTCing just before I got pregnant, the month before in fact, and trying to get DH to play chess on his birthday but we didn't as we were both just too tired. I was really grumpy about it. I got pregnant the month after. Oh my is it really a year?

Sorry to hear about your AF Poppy. The madness of chess again next month. When will one of us get to check mate?? Even just check would be nice

Nandos poor you being stuck without your passport! I hope you are feeling ok.

Better go, keep an eye on DH's tea. I'm sooo tired after my day on the train and in Birmingham. No chess for us tonight I think.

Well MBM hope you got checkmate

AF came with a bang today but have been so pmtish all week that tbh I was glad when it finally arrived Oh well more madness and chess next month - the fun never ends

How are you all? Nandos are you feeling ok now?

xxx

lucky you girls
am stuck here and dh away and he accidentally took my passport when he left so couldnt go anywhere..
miss him soo much

poppy, did AF come and visit today?
hope Becky n MBM are both fine

Good luck!!!!

I saw that advertised y'day Poppy. Looked good! Glad ds enjoyed it, and hooray for the pic'n'mix .

How were your Mondays then girls??

Nandos any news? Hope you are okay...

Off to try to persuade dh into another chess match now - his back is still bad poor thing, but he went to the osteo this morning and so it's a little better. Wish me luck!

xxx

Well done MBM on a good job done

at ipod

I got lovely flowers and a nice card. For a family valentines treat we took ds to see Hotel for dogs. Very cute indeed. One happy ds high from all the e numbers of a lovely pic n mix!

xx

Why thank you <Elvis styley>

Yeah! mbm! Well done!!!!!

Mission accomplished

Have a good Sunday all x

ps Poppy thanks for chocs!

Thanks Becky but I bloody am reading this DH has gone and done his back in so no chess for us tonight unless I can get him so drunk he can't feel it That's the plan anyway, and I've managed to coax him downstairs with the promise of champagne. God I'm a heartless bitch

oooh oohh ohh iPod!!!!!! Your DH is fab! Once you start using it you'll find it irreplaceable! I love mine, but was just like you - didn't have the foggiest to start with!
DH managed to get me some flowers on the way home from work bless him...

Kettle's just boiling so am off to do him a hottie - send very quick healing vibes this way please

Happy V Day all!
Night xxx

Hello all,

Nandos I hope you are ok.

Poppy send some to me too!

mbm I hope you are not reading this but in the middle of a really good chess match with your DH. I hope Valentine's Day brings you luck (did for me six years ago, and that luck is currently causing mayhem!).

Happy Valentine's Day all. Did you get flowers / chocolates / hugs and kisses? I got some flowers and a pink ipod! I have no idea how it works yet though.

Chocs have now been thrown AF due tues but tbh wish it would just appear now as I feel crappy.

Off to write valentines card for dh before I forget.

night night. xxx

Ooh Poppy can I be really cheeky and ask you to chuck a handful of chocs in my direction please Am in a very chocolatey mood tonight! Ooohhh, actually, I think I might have some Dairy Milk left in the cupboard - will go and hunt it out!

When is AF due?

nandos please please take it easy and please let us know when you do get checked out as it prob is nothing to worry about but best to let them confirm that. I had a little bleed when I was about 13wks pg with ds and I literally felt like my world had come crashing around my feet but when I got scanned the next day and all was well it was one of the happiest days ever.
Also please don't feel like the odd one out. You give me hope and I love hearing how things are progressing with your pg. You really do deserve it and hopefully in the future we will be joining you.

MBM My appt at the hosp is to see the recurrent mc consultant again as I had more blood taken in dec re the clotting syndrome. He wants to discuss latest results. Would help if I could get pg again after all these blooming tests.
Sorry to hear your DH's shop is quiet as well. It is scary times just now. My dh is usually quiet at this time of year but this is deafeningly quiet. V worrying.
Good luck with chess

becky hope you are ok. I must be nearly ready for AF as boobs are killing me and I can't take my hand out of the tin of roses chocs there has to be an upside.

Ds off school now till wed so hopefully we will take him to cinema this weekend as he wants to see Hotel for dogs. May need to resort to sneaking in my own snacks

xxx

Oh Nandos, you must really start to take it easy... I'm so sorry to hear about the bleeding - are you going to get it checked out? Remember that your work will still be there even if you slacken off a little - it's so important not to overdo it... Can you take a few days off?
I really hope everything's okay, and PLEASE let us know when you've been to see someone, as we shall all be worried for you.

You mustn't feel bad to be on this thread - you give us hope that things CAN go right next time... I'm pretty sure the others feel the same, but I am willing you on and feel so proud that one of our thread is getting what she deserves. Hopefully we shall all be joining you in having a bump very soon.

Why do you feel so out of place with your friends? It is difficult being pg, as you have so many hormones running around inside you that it's impossible to think straight sometimes, but just think that you are doing THE most important thing in the world, carrying a baby. Other things just pale into insignificance... It doesn't matter where your friends are at, it's just important that you and your baby are okay, and that you're happy. You know you have us behind you all the way

Becky How are you doing? I do really feel for you. I remember how I used to feel getting AF when we were trying for ds, it is devastating each month. I have no words of wisdom, just a very big hug...

Poppy Your poor DH. Hope he is okay, and you too. It's an awful time isn't it. My dh has a shop, and although this is normally a quiet time of year, he can't help but panic when no-one comes in. It is so stressful, as you do start to worry where on earth the money is going to come from.
That's good re the clinic isn't it? At least you won't have to wait even longer to find out the results. What were they testing for?
Re reiki/massage, I reckon anything that relaxes you has to be good! What about reflexology too? That's fab, and they can pinpoint and address problem area's. I've always had a bit of a dodgy tummy, and have been for reflexology a few times, to different places. Each time I'm careful not to mention my tummy, as I'm interested to see if they find it, and they have done each and every time! It's amazing...

Well we started playing chess too last night . Am on CD11 now, and got more planned for tomorrow! DH practically jumped on me, which was fab! When we were ttc ds he said he felt like a piece of meat! Wonder how long it'll be before the novelty of lots of sex wears off for him

Lots of love to you all xxx

lol re washing machine
i used to lean against my mom's w.m. when i was younger told mom it gave me
a good massage

i've been bz running around these few days that i started bleeding this morn its a little but not a few drops though, not enough to scare me to death. i havent see doc or mw yet cos' i got some more work to do b4 i make appt with them.
am not trying to sound self-centred cos' i really feel for the baby if i work too much and sometimes i literally hold my tummy when i am late for work and had to run to catch a bus/train
ok enough for the me me me posts..

becky, so sorry stupid AF came
i feel so bad to be the odd one out in this thread and among my friends in r.l i am the last one in terms of due date..am the last of the 7th feel so out of place..oh well

poppy n mbm, hope you two are ok ..
sorry abt your dh's poor biz at the moment poppy..its really bad this time isnt it

He was quite nice actually
Just joking too

Becky and You make me laugh

Hope the washing machine gave you a good service mbm! Ha ha ha! Just joking.

Thanks for the hugs

Ah Poppy big hugs to you. Your poor DH too. The economy is pants at the moment. Ah what can we do? We've all done / are doing everything we can. Surely we're not asking for much really are we?

Good that your appointment is moved forward. I'll be thinking of you on Friday.

I'm just busy losing myself in vampire love at the moment in these twilight books. It is keeping me going!

Boo becky also for you. It is not fair!

Had a long talk with dh about this yesterday as he is feeling v low at the mo as well. He is a self employed builder and has spent yrs building up the business and at the mo there is little work so v worrying, also all the recent probs with nutty neighbours and our inability to get pg has been really upsetting him as well. He has decided to start running again to get fit and give him some time to clear his head. I am going to see if I can get an appt for some reiki and a massage as I just feel I need "something".

Got a letter from recurrent mc clinic today to go next fri instead of march to discuss latest blood results. Just feel so and

Better go now as need to collect ds from school. xx

Ah no Becky. This is so shit for you Sending big hugs your way and thinking of you (((((())))))

Washing machine man's just turned up, have to go...

Ahhh I can't even do a sad face right!

AF arrived last night [sad0

Durr I meant 'pregnant' not 'not pregnant'!

Hello everyone

I'm fine. Waiting for AF to arrive. Feel nothing as usual except sore boobies a bit but they are always a bit sore before AF is due to stay. Poppy I know exactly how you feel. It's like being on a never-ending treadmill that just goes round and round and round.

I had to laugh about you not realising the mum at your DS's school was not pregnant because there is a mum at my DS's school who I swear is pregnant as she seems much larger than I remember her but I don't know her well enough to ask and what if she says 'no, I'm just fat' then that would be very embarrassing!!

Glad you're feeling a bit better Nandos. Hopefully you'll start to have that lovely mid-pregnancy glow soon! How is your bump growing?

Well I'm just sat here waiting for DH and my tea to cook (fish, baked potato and salad) and the cats are eying each other up for a fight. Oh dear. The DSs are tucked up in bed and DH and I are going to watch Desperate Housewives in a min. I hope everyone is having a nice Tuesday evening!

Hi nandos sorry to hear you are still feeling queasy but it will be worth it in the end.

One of the mum's at ds's school had another baby 2 wks ago and I only found out on fri. Was so embarrassed as I hadn't realised she was pg. When I told her this she said "I was massive" and I was even more and said that due to big winter coats etc I didn't think she was.Anyway she had a lovely wee girl. V cute.

I am out again this month as pmt sore boobs starting again. I just feel so and am seriously wondering if it will ever happen again. My optimism is running low.

Anyway off to do some ironing - yahoo!! Have one of those ironing presses so I can sit down and do it so it doesn't aggravate my arthritis as much. So boring though!

backy and mbm hope you are both ok. We had lots of snow last night and nearly didn't make it home from parents house as we live at the top of a v steep hill and have been stranded in the past! Definately a strong smell of burning clutch last night as we struggled home

hi everyone
its nice to see all of you again..
i am feeling better but at times need to take anti-vomit meds before meals when i feel queasy..

becky, hopefully AF wont show up this time. i didnt have much chess match the last time cos' i nearly gave up and it happened.

poppy, hope your dh get well soon..poor guy
btw soo cute of your cat re disgusted at the snow lol i thought the fur makes them warm??
theres a lot of stray cats here n whenever i see them , i would stop n touch them (too embarassed to use the word stroke lol) they r soo cute... i am mad abt cats

MBM, hope you are alright..how is dh and ds doing?
i miss DH soo much..just spoke to him today and hes soo bz with work and we could only talk for a few mins each call..

need to do a bit of housework before i am done for the day
hope everyone is ok..

Hi everyone

Aki means autumn in Japanese. She is kind of autumnal coloured. I lived in Japan a while ago and DH is learning Japanese at the moment so that is how her name came about.

Good luck Poppy with the plans for an overnight.

We've had a busy weekend. I went down to Warwickshire to visit a friend of mine. We went shopping in the afternoon and drank wine while watching Sex And The City in the evening. I had to try to drink as little as possible just in case, but without giving the game away! That's really hard work!

The DSs are 'cooking' me a cake at the moment and Aki is running around chasing her tail. DH is on the computer upstairs being geeky and Liquorice, our older cat, is asleep somewhere probably.

I hope you are all well and enjoying the end of the weekend xxxx.

Hi becky love your cats names. Does aki have a meaning (sounds oriental) or did you just like it?

My cat will barely step outside in this weather. She miaws to have the door opened then just wants to sit and look disgusted at the snow (the mere thought of getting her paws cold!!) whilst we endure freezing temps coming into the house.

Just been to a meeting with the other guiders as we are hoping to take the girls away for an overnight somewhere and subsidise the cost of it as we got given two donations from local orgs last year

Off to bed now for some zzzzz and that really will be all as dh has developed manflu and is going around looking all pasty and coughing

nandos and MBM hope you are both ok.

Ooooh Poppy that sounds hopeful. Sounds like you got lots of chess matches in this month! A year ago when we were trying there was one night when I was shivery and feverish with flu and I said to DH 'I don't think I can do it tonight' and he just looked at me and gave me this withering smile. The month after that I got pg.

Nandos poor you. Was the sickness just a sudden bowt of MS or something else? I hope you are feeling better now. You're not far off half way there!!! It's gone so quick from my perspective since you said 'yeah I am pregnant!'

My AF is due a week tomorrow but since we only played chess twice and not at the most fertile moments I'm not hugely hopeful.

I had some bloods done last week and rang up for the results today: 'normal' I was told. So at least I know I am ovulating and not dying of some horrible blood disease or anything. That's a cheery thought.

Well better go, in the middle of ironing and fuming at DH for leaving me as usual with all the domestic duties, the children, and I do have work to do as well! Men grrrrrr. I am supposed to be going to visit a friend in Wellesbourne on Sat night but DH might have to go to work Sat morning and if he dares to have a work crisis which means I can't go there will be fur flying in this house! And I'm not talking the cats!

Our two cats are getting on better already. Our older cat, Liquorice, is quite a passive cat and she tolerates new cat, Aki. I think she feels quite motherly towards her. Liquorice also sits on the back of the sofa Poppy behind my head every night and she won't let Aki come near the sofa. She also sleeps on the bottom of our bed in the daytime and she won't let Aki go near the bed. She growls at her. Aki has a little cat basket she sleeps in. Aki is just soooo lovely but I'm struggling to stop her eating Luke and Josh's food. She just jumps up on the table and takes! I'm not quick enough! She is sitting next to this laptop now. I wish I could show you. I might try to put a piccy on my MN profile now. I have a rather fuzzy photo from my phone I can put on.

Better go do the ironing! Hope everyone is well.

Hi nandos sorry to hear you have been so ill. Did they say what caused it? Anyway hope you are feeling better soon. Don't worry about the meds as they wouldn't have given you them if they weren't safe. I had to take meds all the way through my pg due to my arthritis and although I worried myself sick about it everything was fine. You take care.

Becky I am also jealous of your new kitten. I am a complete cat lover and they are hilarious when they are small. Mine is much more lazy now she is older but every night she sits on the back of the sofa behind my head and snuggles into my hair. Unfortunately she is usually kneading me with her claws at the same time (cheap accupuncture) and she has always done this since she was a kitten.

MBM sorry about your AF but as the others say it gives you a nice clean slate this month and you can be all prepared

Really hope this will be our month! I had a positive on an OV test and we did the deed on the nights before, during and after that so fingers crossed. I don't know how much more jiggy there will be though as ds has been off school with a bad cold and now dh and I have it. Mine is only a tad but his is ManFlu so any chance of "chess" is prob out the window!!!

Oooh Nandos, poor you! I hope you're feeling better soon! Is it some kind of bug you've had do you think? Am sure the baby will be fine...

Becky Over the past week I've heard about the Twilight books/film from so many different people, it's crazy! A friend is going to lend me the books, but has given the first one to someone else at the mo, so am waiting for her to finish it. Are they really good? Have you seen the film?

Don't be sad re my AF, I am thrilled that it arrived At last I can start trying again! I wouldn't have been ready for it mentally if I had been pg from the quicky we had - not that a few weeks makes any difference I suppose, but I do feel ready for it now. I've got to pick up my prescription for the baby aspirine now, and start taking that which I hope may help...

Poppy How are you doing?

Better go, but lots of love x

ooh becky, i love cats n kittens..kept telling my dh i wanted one v badly

MBM, sorry to hear your AF arrived..i do hope you and the rest get good news soon

i am in terrible state today..could hardly walk cos' yesterday night it started with a terrible headache and it hurt like crazy. vomitted twice after that and took a panadol. later had to go the 24-hr clinic at 2am today cos' i had muscle cramps,jaw cramps,throat hurt so bad and chest pain then vomitted 4 more times till 4am. i cant believe i could vomit x6 in one night.
am feeling better now expect dragging my feet around when walking hope baby is fine..i feel so sad for him/her cos' i had to take anti-vomit tablets n and a couple more pills to stop headache and muscle pain.

will post more when im better..take care all

Hi mbm - sorry your AF arrived. You can start afresh next month though.

The kitten is called Aki and she is lovely. She's white and ginger and black and she likes to sit on my lap and purr. I'll add a photo when I can soon.

I'm off to bed now. Well I'm off to take the second Twilight book to bed as I am addicted to them. Have any of you read them?

Byeee and nighty night xxx

Ooh lovely re snow Becky, sounds fab! Did dh get to work and back okay?
Bet your kitten is gorgeous! What did you call her? have you got a pic you can post?

Well, AF arrived this morning, so I am now on CD1 of starting to ttc again! Not sure whether to be excited about it or not God I hope we have some better luck this time round, and for you too Becky and Poppy...

Hope you´re all having a lovely day

Hi everyone

mbm your weekend sounds lovely

It is BIG SNOWING here and me and DS2 are very excited. DH isn't though as he is at work and is worrying about the trains... But we never get snows these days so I think it is something worth getting excited about.

I don't have high hopes for this month as we only did the deed twice, on the day I got a +ve result on the OV stick and 4 days later on Sat night. But as mbm you said it only takes one go! But we'll see. AF due a week on Thursday. So I'm in that horrible 2ww period. But trying really hard not to think about it. The snow is more exciting at the moment

I'm typing this with the cutest kitten ever asleep next to me. She is soooo lovely. DS2 is watching Fimbles on TV. Better go and make us both some lunch now.

Hope everyone is well xxx

Hi guys!

Just a quickie as am on my break at work...

How are you all?

We had a lovely time celebrating over the weekend. Film was fab on Saturday night, and then dh cooked a lovely meal last night which even ds loved and then we had a wee bottle of champagne when he´d gone to bed! Twas lovely! Ended up in bed just after ten though as have a v sore throat

Well, AF´s due around Wednesday and after having had a bit of a stress that I was pg I know now that I´m not, and so am looking forward to starting to ttc again. I know it sounds ridiculous, but after waiting so long it feels like such a big step to try again, and if we´d have got pg before I felt ready to start it just wouldn´t have felt right. Does that make sense?

How´s the bd´ìng going Poppy and Becky. When are your next AF´s due?

Nandos I can´t believe you´re over 14 weeks already. The time has flown by, although you probably won´t think that Was your Grandma pleased when you told her?

better go, but lots of love to you all, and hope you´re having a good Monday! Is it snowing where you are?

xxx

helloo..

MBM, happy 10yr anniversary!
goodness me, im only halfway there

poppy n becky, how r u 2 doing?

just to update a bit on myself:
i went to see grandma(dad's mom) two days back n was a bit surprised cos' i thought my family told her abt my pregnancy but they didnt. mom already told her friends/her family side ages ago but not dad's side?? i find that a bit weird..maybe MIL/DIL conflict?
anyways i told her that day itself cos' she kept talking abt me/dh not having kids for so long..rest of family n some friends already knew and a few more to go when we see them.
btw MS still lingering around when i thought its nearly over still gagging whenever brushing teeth n vomited both my late lunch n dinner 2 days back am 14+3 today n time seems to fly so fast when we are busy..
dh left yesterday night to dubai. missed him but at the same time i guess we both needed some space cos' the pressure from stress,pregnancy,housing n loads of other stuffs making us like 2 dry twigs rubbing each other..n fire is not what we want now
anywayz i got to go now cos' got some work to do ( wish someone would lighten my burden atm) my bro's beginning to think im a zombie n he even told me i look like one lol i cant believe him!

take care all

I knew what you meant Poppy we have tea in our house. Tonight's tea is egg fried rice!

I often feel I ought to get the worst mummy of the year award, I think everyone must do! The last time for me was during bathtime the other night. DH had been working late every night last week and I had got to my limit on being the lone parent and the DSs were messing about not getting ready for bed so I just said 'I give up!' and lay on the floor! DS2 just carried on running around in the nuddy causing havoc and DS1 said 'ohh mummy please get up! we need you to get us into our jammmies and take us to bed!'

That doesn't make sense does it? Tea meaning dinner not a cup of tea!!!

OOOHHHH This site is very weird. It will take a bit of getting used to as I am quite boring and really don't like change

becky hope your ds is feeling better. Having a sore tum and the runs is no fun at all.

MBM congrats on your 10 year anniversary. Enjoy your night at the cinema. I enjoy seeing movies as well with a bag of sweets but usually now it is films like Kung Po Panda and Wall E

nandos when you put it like that the maybe the travelling could get a bit wearing living out a suitcase is not much fun. How is the ms is it still as bad?

I have just been out with ds (stressful) getting a few bits of shopping and a birthday card for my dad as it is his bday on mon. Then we went to the dreaded tesco for a few of the things we couldn't get in town. Ds was beginning to moan by this time and was being a menace so by the time we got to the checkout with a heavy basket and a new duvet (as ds soaked our one this morning) and he wouldn't stop talking and so I whispered to him to be quiet and he boomed "I will be quiet then" I then felt like I had bad mother stamped on my forehead and couldn't get home fast enough!
Anyway just having a cuppa before making tea. Have a good weekend.
xxx

Forgot to add: happy 10 Year Anniversary mbm!

Oooh we saw Slum Dog Milliannaire a couple of weeks ago. Fab film.

I've just had to pick up DS1 from school as he'd had diahhrreear can't spell it. He's totally fine though. He came home, went to the loo, produced an awful lot of wind (sorry if TMI) then did a very normal poo! He was very proud of himself and said 'that's better'.

Anyway, not much planned for the weekend here. I've got work to do, might pop into town, just nearly finished Twilight so want to get the next book in the series. Then granny food at the PIL's on Sunday.

Oooohhh I'm not sure I like this new look MN. Was just thinking the other day how easy it was to use and then they have to go and change it Let's hope we get used to it quick!

Poor you Becky doing tax stuff, yuk! Re only once this month, it only takes one!!! Fingers crossed...

Just got back from work, have got ds in bed and am about to sit down with a cup of tea. Aaaahhhhhh I love this time of the week! It's our 10 year anniversary of being together today - we are v skint at the mo, so are celebrating tomorrow night by going to see Slumdog Millionaire at the cinema. How easily pleased am I . A bag of pic 'n' mix and I'm happy!

What are you all doing this weekend?

Ooooh mumsenet looks all weird. I'm just saying a quick hello to bump up our thread as it took me ages to find it! I ovulated this week but DH and I only did the deed once as it has been such a stressful week for him at work. His whole team have fallen apart around him. So I doubt if this month is the month but there is always next month. Hope you are all well!

I'm busy doing tax return stuff today

Oh Becky It really is just so sad that someone should feel like there is no other option but to end their life. It's a very selfish act, because the loved ones that are left behind will go through hell torturing themselves about what they should have and could have done differently. His poor sister. His ex-partner must be distraught too.
We know of someone over here who committed suicide, in fact DH went to school with his sister who is lovely. Apparently no one knew he was so depressed either. The day he did it he seemed a bit happier, and even sorted out all his belongings first. I think that's quite a common thing to do. His sister found him (I won't say how) but I would think that it is something she will never ever get over, no matter how brave a face she puts on.
Re lounge, yes I rescued it just in time thanks, although even now with ds asleep it's not exactly what you'd call tidy . I think tidy fairy is a very polite way of putting it

Poppy Your poor Gran. It never rains but it pours. How old is she? Sounds like she is very lucky to have you looking out for her. I hope she feels a bit better soon. Re your glasses, what a pain! Do you go past the opticians at all to pop in again? It's probably worth getting it put right, otherwise you might end up not wearing them. I hate glasses and think you are very brave to have got them. my prescription's so bad that when I wear them the lenses look like milk bottle bottoms and my eyes like 'piss holes in the snow'. Very attractive. It's contacts for me, unless it's just dh and ds around

Nandos I meant to ask earlier, have you told people that you're pg yet? Have you told dh's family? I would love to know what they said and how they reacted. Still can't believe that they were so horrible towards you .
Do you thnk it's worth getting dh a pregnancy book for fathers? It might be a good idea if you think he'd read it? Maybe it'd give him some clue as to how you're feeling and the changes that are going on in your body. Maybe he might be a little less insensitive then... Good luck with him x

Right, am off to put in my 4th load of washing for the day. I am a lazy arse most of the time, but then every now and then go into overdrive. This is one of those days!

I just can't imagine being that unhappy that the only solution is to end your life. I just feel so sad for his family. I know he had a sister he was close to. It's just so sad. DH said nobody guessed he was feeling so bad, beyond being upset at splitting up with his partner recently.

Glad you're ok Nandos except the endless packing and unpacking. Sorry your DH is driving you a bit bonkers at the moment. They have their moments... and your hormones will be all over the shop.

Poppy sorry to hear your gran's health problems, I hope she is ok.

My specs need tightening but that is because little hands keep bending them!

I am sat here with cute kitten asleep next to me. She is soooo adorable. I am now especially glad we took her, although the circumstances are much tinged with sadness now.

mbm I hope your lounge is in one piece... I don't know about you but I feel as if I spend half my life being the tidy fairy.

oh becky so sorry to hear your dh's colleague
i know how it feels like being depressed n thinking of suicide been there ages ago but only thing that stop me is my religion.. its just not worth doing it tbh..
didnt mean to be insensitive though hope you n your dh is alright..

poppy n MBM, i am now getting fed up of travelling now pack,unpack,pack,unpack
also getting very angry at dh all the time he seems to be so robotic nowadays..like emotionless,insensitive bugger i guess i am too tired today ..excuse me for ranting.
oh btw my next appt is supposed to be sometime in march in london but i still havent book for an appt in the hosp here for a scan. might do it as soon as my work ease up a bit..
got to go now..will try to come by if possible like today

take care all..

becky so sorry to hear about your dh's colleague. What a terrible shock for you all. It is so sad that some people think there is nowhere left to go in life. It makes it very hard for the people left behind to cope. It happened years ago to my mum's cousin when her dh killed himself after being depressed. Sadly then she missed out on a chance to be a mum as it took her a long time to move on and by that time the ship had sailed. Just so sad. My thoughts are with you and your dh. (((hugs)))

nandos great to hear from you. It must be so interesting travelling like you do. Hope you start to feel the pg glow soon and the ms disappears.

MBM I had a disappearing message the other day and it is so frustrating when you type it all out then click and it vanishes off into the ether (but not on mn) GRRR

I am off to take my gran for a few errands today as she hasn't been that great recently and got a bit of a shock last week when the dr came to do a house call and told her she had developed kidney failure and angina. Then she got some blood tests dona and yesterday another dr came to visit and has given her a prescription for diabetes meds as he feels she is hovering on the brink of that also and said her cholesterol was slightly raised! I told her she needed a silver bullet. It is a good job she is a relilient lady with a good sense of humour!!
Still trying to get used to the new specs. Had to go back to the opticians yest as they were too tight. Had them adjusted but today still feel they are pinching bridge of nose a bit and I really cannot be faffed going back again! Oh the joys.

Anyway better go. xxx

Oh Becky that's just awful. Oh my goodness me. What an absolutely horrible thing to happen. What was he like this guy? Am so sorry... No wonder your poor DH was distracted and acting strange, it must've been a horribly weird day.

Nandos Lovely to hear from you! Hope you're feeling okay, and maybe a little less sick with each day. Hopefully it'll start coming to an end soon and you'll start to bloom . Will you have a scan out there? When's your next one??

Poppy How are you? That's lovely re the flowers, it's great to feel appreciated!

Right ds on a mission to wreck the lounge while I'm stood here neglecting him so better go.

Big hugs to you all, esp you Becky. Hope you're okay, you must be very shaken up...

Hi guys, I had a strange day yesterday. DH emailed me in the day to say he was having a bad day at work but wouldn't elaborate. He kept replying with 'I'll tell you later'. Then when he got home I asked him what had happened and he said again 'oh I can't tell you now, tell you later'. I was really worried. He seemed to be acting a bit strange, really distracted and really, really tired. But anyway I had had a positive test on the old OV sticks so we did the deed, which was actually very nice. Then I asked him again why his day had been so bad and he told me: the colleague of his who had given us our little kitty killed himself that morning. I was so shocked and upset. I didn't really know him but it was so not what I was expecting DH to say (I'd been expecting something computer-related as DH works in IT). I was speechless. This guy was a day older than me and very popular at DH's work - everyone had been shocked at the news. I felt so bad for making DH have sex with me - not that I had known then but I had sensed he wasn't quite himself. He said he needed it to take his mind off things. I'm still in shock. No-one knew this guy was that unhappy, except that he'd broken up with his boyfriend on Sunday and was about to move house (hence finding homes for his two cats). Then DH told me that another of his little team was off sick with girly bits infections or something, another one off with depression after proposing to his girlfriend and falling immediately into depression about impending life-long commitment. I told DH that they were lucky he was there to support them all. The world is a very strange place sometimes.

Better go, almost time to take the DSs to school. Hope you are all ok and well.

Hello Nandos! I was wondering about you today wondering how you are doing. Are you still feeling as sick as before or is it starting to ease a bit? Hope you are well and not working too hard. I'm having crumpets with the DSs here at the moment. Yum.

hey everyone!
just had a fast read through of the previous post n my its quite long just came to say a quick hi too
missed all of you..
sorry i could not post while in dubai cos' of limited internet access n got sick all the time there.
am in singapore now but a bit bz with work for at least another wk or so. dh will be going back to UK in a few days so need to get work done asap. as usual i will be alone here without dh well family is at least here so im ok but will miss my dh (even though hes mean at times )
its 12.30 mn now so am going to sleep n everyone else is snoozing away so i better go soon
hope all of you are ok becky,MBM and poppy..
will try to post more but would be unlikely this wk cos' of too much work
might come next wk k

gtg now..c ya

As I sit here our existing cat is having a stare-out with new cat. New cat is soooo cute! She keeps walking on my keyboard though and trying to catch the typing across the screen. The DSs and I are having so much fun playing with the new kitty but we are trying hard to give old kitty lots and lots of cuddles too.

Hope you are both well. I am in ovulation time at the moment. DH is going to have to have a quick game of chess when he gets home from work!

OH MY GOD Just wrote 2 posts (first one MAMMOTH) and the bloody computer here in school has just wiped them both GRRRRRR

Will try again later!

Just a quicky to say hello, hope you are both okay, and good night!!! Will write more tomorrow...
Lots of love xxx

Thanks for the top tip MBM re the bhuda. Don't know why it never occured to me to put it in the bedroom . Am going to move it there now and hope it brings me more luck

becky lucky you getting a new kitten. I love cats and would get another in a heartbeat but my cat is 13 now and she can be a moody girl and there is no way she would tolerate a new housemate. My parents got a kitten a year ago and it was hilarious watching all his wild antics. It's funny because you forget how fast they are and all the mad half hours they have just rampaging around. You will have good fun

Ds was at a birthday party yesterday at our local soft play area and there was also a bouncy castle so all the kids had a great time and got well and truly tired out which would have been quite good but by dinnertime last night ds was very very grumpy. On a nice note though I got a lovely buch of flowers of the other mum for helping out which was very kind of her. Anyway better be off and do some ironing before it is time to collect ds from school.

xx

Oooh that's lovely and so exciting! Congratulations!! What are you going to call her? How do you think your cat will take to a new playmate?

Have lots of fun!

Can't write more as am on a clothes chucking out mission

xxx

Hey girlies, soooo excited because we're getting a new addition to the family today! A kitten! DH's friend's friend has two kittens he is trying to find homes for and he has a home for one but struggling with the other so we're taking her. I haven't told the DSs yet so it can be a surprise but I am soooo excited!!!! We're going to pick her up later today. I just hope our existing cat will cope. I need to google some advice about having a new kitten, or I might find somewhere on mumsnet to ask.

Meant to add: oooh Poppy well done your DS for being pupil of the week! They have the same sort of thing at my DS1's school. I hope he enjoys his party today

mbm that is quite sensible but I'm not known for being very sensible... If you aren't pg then next month you can have lots of horizontal tennis at the right time. But if you happen to get pg now then all the good too even though your holiday might be hard going if you're suffering from the old MS. Your DH is very naughty. He should definitely go to the naughty step for that

We had a fun shopping trip. We did all the charity shops of Shrewsbury as my mum and sister love bargain hunting so I got DS1 a jigsaw and DS2 a little present too. I also went a bit bonkers in Waterstones and bought four books... DH raised his eyebrows skywords when we got home. We have no more room for books.

I'll send you my address I will take very good care of your little buddha.

Think I may have just buggered up our carefully laid plans....... DH just persuaded me to bd without a 'raincoat' on. Bugger bugger bugger. I ov'd on Wednesday so the egg will have gone by now won't it???????? Only reason I don't want to get pg yet is that if I was then I may be too sick to go on holiday next month. If it wasn't for that I would've dived into bed when the consultant told me to
What do you reckon girls?

Poppy I'm so glad you got a buddha, I hoped you would Have you thought about putting it in your bedroom? I hope its magic works for you soon. I was given 4 as a wedding present by a dear friend of mine, and I made sure they were near the bed, and I used to rub their tummies . Yes, we may be barking, but if it helps then that's all that matters.
Btw, well done your ds! That is so lovely, and you must be very proud too. Bless him

Becky Hope you've had a good day! Poor you, you must be knackered now! Did you get anything exciting on your shopping trip?
If you send me your address on FB I'll send you a little buddha

Right, off to bed now. You don't think I could be pg from one quick shag do you? Am on tablets that I was going to stop when AF arrives...
Naughty naughty naughty DH. But it was nice though

Hi Poppy glad you survived the singalong. You are brave standing up on stage in front of everyone!

We've got lots of visitors today: first BIL and his partner Simon for lunch, then my sister, mum and niece are coming for shopping trip and then DH's friend Sue coming for tea! Busy day!

Oops forgot to say becky you should give the budha a go. My mum got me one for xmas and it is now sat pride of place in diningroom. Dh just noticed it recently and said "when did we get a budha - no don't tell me, it is something to do with fertility isn't it". (yes darling along with all the other charms, crystals, angels etc etc in my house!) Good luck

Oh MBM I hope your poor ds gets better soon. I totally agree that it is so worrying when they are ill. I am still an overprotective paranoid mother who always checks ds thoroughly if he complains of being ill and I still sneak into his bedroom everynight to check on him. He prob won't appreciate that when he is a surly teen

becky I too am in complete admiration/slight broody envy of the mother with the 4 kids - wow. Breastfeeding twins must be so exhausting but she will or should be really proud she managed it.

I have also been watching CBB. I hoped Terry would win but was quite pleased for Ulrika as she always seems to get a bad press for no reason.

I survived the singalong but it is excrutiatingly embarrassing standing up on stage singing to an audience some of whom a peeps who went to school with me and are now parents along to support their wee ones. I kept on trying to fix my eyes on the back of the hall and not look at anyone was very glad when it was over!

Had to go back to the opticians today to get new specs adjusted as they were digging in to the side of my head. Wore them all afternoon but (cringe) will need to go back and get the pads at nose adjusted as they also feel a bit tight. Would like to get dh to do it to save the hassle but am terrified he might damage them. Hair is also an improvement. Felt the highlights were getting a bit bright so got some darker colour mixed in this time. Might disguise the roots a bit longer

MBM maybe I should try to put some photos on my profile as I suppose you are right it is strange speaking to folk and not knowing what they look like (or maybe thats good). Will try to get dh on the case as he is more technical than me .

Hope you all have a good weekend. My ds has a party on Sun aft and is v excited. He is also very proud today as he was awarded pupil of the week at school assembly and the teacher called him up on stage and shook his hand and he got a certificate and a sticker. He was beaming with pride when I collected him at lunchtime.

xxx

Hi mbm I would love a smiling Buddha! I lived in Japan for two years so I know a little bit about Buddhism. That is very sweet of you It would be lovely if it works.

I've been wearing a crystal for a couple of months that is supposed to regulate the reproductive system (since my strange 12-day late period) and it has worked, kind of, by making my AF 5 days early this time around! DH is very scientific and logical and thinks I am crazy but I think it is working.

I thought the lady with four children would put me off but no it didn't at all. (I didn't tell DH about her though in case it put him off ). I must admit though when she said she'd been breastfeeding the twins I was in total admiration! I struggled with one child!

Sorry about your DS mbm still being poorly. Poor mite. It is sooo horrible when they are ill, isn't it? I hope he gets better soon.

I'm watching CBB and Oh My God Verne has just been evicted!!!! I thought he was going to win! Wow! I want Ulrika to win because I think she has done really well living with all those male egos and she has kept her cool relatively well. Or Terry Christian because I used to fancy him when I was a student watching The Word (showing my age no doubt!).

Take care all xxxx

Just re-read my post, and I meant aspirin - aspirine is french, d'oh!

Hello!

Becky First of all I have to say sorry for not having wished you good luck with your doctors appt on Wednesday. I am so crap I did THINK about it, but then was in such a rush I forgot to put it in my post. Sorry! That's a shame that they won't do tests before you've been trying a year. I know it probably makes sense, but when it's actually YOU in that year it's an awful long time... I hope that chilling out works for you. I know you probs don't believe in things like this but the offer's still there if you'd like me to send you a smiling buddha - I gave one to one of my best friends a couple of years ago, and the next month she was pregnant . It just had to be the buddha...
Re the lady with the four kids, my god! I bet she was knackered! It's draining enough breastfeeding one child, let alone two, and then with another two on top. I thought you were going to say she'd put you off having any more

Poppy How are you doing? Did you get your hair done? Bet it looks gorgeous! I have no idea what you look like - what colour hair do you have?? How did the singalong go? You are so brave to do that, I woud be a nervous wreck! Did you enjoy it?

Well, no real news from here except that ds is still ill . Went to the docs last night and she thought it might be pneumonia, but had an x-ray done today of his chest and it's fine. She thinks it must be flu, but the poor little mite has such a high temp still, and is shivering a lot. It's just awful when they're ill.
Also, I went to my GP today to talk about what the consultant said on Wednesday, and my GP said go with it, so I am going to. Aaaagh!!!! Girls, I now have a 13 day countdown to AF and then it's all systems go! Am going to start taking baby aspirine when AF has finished, and then will take the progesterone. Am a bit more reluctant about the cervical stitch, as I googled it and apparently you have to have a general anesthetic for it . We'll see what happens with that, if we even get as far as being pg. I am now so excited though, after having had a few wobbles earlier in the week.

Better go coz I want to catch the end of Eastenders, and then yay, it's Celeb BB in this house tonight too Becky!!!!! Who do you want to win?

Lots of love to you both xxx

Hi guys, how are you all today~? I've had a funny sort of day: really busy. This morning DS2 and I went to our local toddler / drop-in session and there was a woman there who has a five year old, a two year old, and 6 month old twin boys. She is breastfeeding them still and looked totally, totally shattered. She said she can't barely get out of the house most of the time! But when I looked at her two gorgeous little boys I felt so gooey and broody. Then I helped the school PTA sort out some books for a book sale and then we all trapsed off to PIL's house as it was MIL's birthday. Phew I am knackered. Need to start ov tests now as 8 days since AF. TTCing is exhausting. I just wish we could all see into the future and know whether we will have babies soon.

Anyway, hope you are all well, have agood weekend. I'm going to watch the CBB final tonight with a big glass of red wine and a pizza. DH is going over to his parent's house to see his mum on her birthday.

Hi MBM so happy that you got the go ahead from consultant (he sounded v enthusiastic!)and you can start straight away . Don't know anything about the progesterone but my dad's cousin had many mc's when she was younger and eventually she had a stich put in her cervix when she got pg and she managed to carry the pg till full term then they took stich out and she had a lovely and much longed for dd. That was 34 years ago so I things will be much safer and progressive now.

becky I used to love In the night garden as well and was sad when ds announced it was too babyish (boo hoo) it's wall to wall spongebob here now

So far specs have gone unnoticed by playground mum's. Will see if anyone notices them tomorrow night as we are doing a joint sponsored singalong with rainbows, brownies and girlguides all taking part. It is a living nightmare as we have to stand up on stage with the girls and sing in front of an audience of parents/grannies etc many of whom I went to school with . I usually try to fix my eye on something at back of hall and make no eyecontact or I would be blushing constantly.
Am getting hair cut and coloured in morning so at least I should be looking better/less roots showing!

xx

Hey mbm that is fantastic news. I am soooo pleased that you've got the go ahead.

I don't know about taking pogesterone and cervical stitches though. But sounds like things are looking good for you. I'm keeping all my fingers and toes crossed.

I've just got back from the doctor and they are going to do the usual blood tests but you can't get referred for tests until a year after TTCing so that is May. So we'll just keep going and keep bonking. See what happens. I'm going to try, try, try to chill out and just see what happens until May.

Can I join you for tea and cake mbm? I could do with some

I meant he'd do a cervical stitch as soon as I found out I was pg...

Hi girls!

Just a quick one as have dashed in for tea and cake (yum!) before taking one of the dogs to the vets.... It's none stop at the mo!

Well, I've just had my appt, and I don't know what to think. He said that my body is ready for another pregnancy and that as I'm OV'ing today that I should start trying 'now, NOW. NOW!' I almost burst out laughing - he was like something out of a monster movie! Suffice to say, we have the go-ahead

He's also told me to start taking baby aspirin every day, and that for every cycle of trying, starting on day 21 I have to start taking progesterone every morning and night, and only stopping if/when AF arrives. I'm really happy that he's given me something to do rather than just leave it to fate, but am worried that taking progesterone would make my body hold onto a possible miscarriage. Also, he said he'd do a cervical stitch as my cervix is open. Apparently that's not normal, even when OV'ing.

Anyone have any thoughts on all this? Am so confused as to what I think, but then I don't really know a lot about cervical stitches/progesterone supplements.

The other thing that worried me is that he read my results from the last mc wrong. He thought it was one extra chromosome rather than an extra set, so told me it was something else and not a partial molar. Just come home and googled what he told me, and he's wrong.

Apologies for the me, me, me post, but just don't know what to think!

Hope you're all okay x

Thanks for the good luck wishes! Just off to have a quick shower before going into town for the appt - argh!

Poppy Did anyone notice your glasses? Did they make the floor look wobbly to start with?

Becky Isn't In the Night Garden brill! We love it in this house!

Right, better go, am feeling so poorly today (am coming down with ds' latest lurgy) and everything's a bit wobbly coz I feel so dizzy. Even misjudged getting out of the car earlier and whacked my head

Will be back on later to tell you what he said [very nervous emoticon]

Hello all!

Good luck to you too poppy this month. My AF has left me now so let the sexathon begin... actually DH and I are going to to doctors today just to say we're struggling to get preggers and its been 8 months now since the MC whereas previously I've managed to get pregnant quite quickly. I'm sure they'll just say 'go away, you're just getting old' but we'll see.

I know what you mean about the specs, its the same when you get your hair cut!

DS2 and I are watching In The Night Garden at the moment. He has terrible chocolate chops thanks to the chocolate biscuit he's just devoured.

I wonder how Nandos is doing in Dubai. I bet it's warmer there than it is here. Brrrrr.

Good luck tomorrow MBM hope your appt goes well and you can join in the madness again!!!

Good luck this month becky!!

My AF has been lurking with intent for days now but today has come with a bang. Am glad it has finally arrived as that means in a few days I too can rejoin the madness Scary how ttc takes over.

Have just been to the opticians today and got my new specs. Have been wearing one pair all aft and have just put others on now. It is always really odd wearing new glasses. Wonder if anyone else will notice. People always know there is something different but it takes them a wee while to work out what it is (maybe thats just me!).

Off to bed now - really have no idea why I am still up!

xx

Hello! My weekend was good. The DSs spent the night at the PILs so DH and I went to see Slum Dog Millionaire and it was really good! Then we stayed in bed until 10.30am on Sunday, something I haven't done very often in five years! My AF has gone now so another month of hopeful bonking for me now.

Good luck on Wed mbm. I hope it goes ok and he says you can start TTCing. I don't have any words of wisdom, I need some too!

Off to town now to buy MIL's birthday present because DH says he has no idea what to get her. He always leaves it to the last minute!!!