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AIBU?

To think that 'Alfie' the 13 year old 'father' is not actually the real Dad

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lazymumofteenagesons · 15/02/2009 17:20

He is supposed to have fathered this child about 9+months ago. He doesn't look like he has reached puberty and it has been reported that his voice hasn't yet broken.
AIBU to feel that biologically he just couldn't have done this?
Is this just a money making scheme?

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Lulumama · 15/02/2009 17:21

on another thread about this topic, there is a link to a NoTW article where two other teens are speculating theyu could be the father.

the whole thing is a disaster for all involved.

ssd · 15/02/2009 17:23

his family are exploiting him for all they're worth

sucks big time

BalloonSlayer · 15/02/2009 17:25

I thought the same. Surely if he had enough testosterone to produce viable sperm he'd have enough for SOME signs of puberty.

Poor kid.

Slambang · 15/02/2009 17:25

Funny you should say that...
dh is convinced that the whole thing is a teenage cover up by the mum who didn't want to name the real dad (for whatever reasons - she is underage...) and her rather naieve young friend Alfie who agreed to claim to be the dad as a favour. The whole thing may have got out of hand when the press got wind of it.

Has anyone done a paternity test?

AnyFuckerForAShiteSoppyCard · 15/02/2009 17:26

This is my opinion too, he is no way physically capable of fathering a child

Have they done paternity tests to prove it?

Does anyone think this might be a money-making scam along the lines of Shannon Matthews?

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 15/02/2009 17:27

DNA tests have been demanded by at least one of the other two possible fathers who have come forward.

shootfromthehip · 15/02/2009 17:29

I hope for that wee boy's sake that he isn't the Dad- he's still a kid himself.

AlistairSim · 15/02/2009 17:29

I've just heard on the radio that 2 other boys have given sworn statements to a soliciter claiming they think they could be the father and one is demanding a DNA test.

They have said they slept with her with the 'consent' of her parents and without contraception.

shootfromthehip · 15/02/2009 17:30

Oh my goodness, never before in my life have I EVER sounded more like an old lady.

FAQinglovely · 15/02/2009 17:31

just read an article that says one of the boys - who is 16 and a trainee chef has demanded a DNA test.

TrillianAstra · 15/02/2009 17:32

With the consent of her parents? WTF? I assume they are adding that to try to avoid prosecution for sleeping with an underage girl.

It's possible that he's the father, signs of puberty don't always appear in the same order, but I would be looking for a DNA test too.

Lulumama · 15/02/2009 17:34

i have said on the other thread, and again now, have none of these teens heard of condoms?

never mind unplanned pregnancy, if there are several partners in the mix, not using condoms, what about clamydia , gonorrhea etc...

why is the message about safe, protected sex still not heard?

escape · 15/02/2009 17:36

The sad fact is , still, that for some young girls, pregnant at 15/16 is an active lifestyle choice. For children such as this, the intlligence required to practice safe sex just isn't applicable.

Lulumama · 15/02/2009 17:37

if it was with consent, then it was incumbent on the parents to ensure that the young girl was on the pill/injection or something of that nature, and that she had condoms.. and if the boys parents knew , then they should have ensured the boys had condoms, and that they could use them correctly and safely

juneybean · 15/02/2009 17:37

I thought the same thing OP

lazymumofteenagesons · 15/02/2009 17:42

If it was done with the consent of the girls mother and both are underage, can't the mother be prosecuted? I know there is no point in prosecuting the kids but surely the mother can be held responsible.

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Lulumama · 15/02/2009 17:44

well, they were having sex, and no-one was coerced.. it is neglectful of the parents ? well, yes, i thikn so, especially with multiple partners and no contraception. can you prosecute? is it in the public interest? holding one family up as a scapegoat? doubt it would achieve much except more notoriety and turmoil

Leo9 · 15/02/2009 17:44

in answer to you lulumama I agree with escape; it IS heard, loud and clear - it's often a choice. A choice that comes from having no investment in education, therefore in the future; no expectations or aspirations of life; and a very narrow experience of the world, often only of one or two estates that form their whole frame of reference.

escape · 15/02/2009 17:45

Of course you're right Lulumama, - but do you think the parents actually gave a shit what either of them were doing??

Lulumama · 15/02/2009 17:47

i think this sort of thing is much more complicated than it appears

why are generations still feeling that a child in your teens is a realisitic or the only choice?

what is going wrong still, 2 + generations on?

so many factors at play, i don;t think the children should be vilified, but then at what point do you draw the line.. they are now parents ... so grown ups in one respect, but still children in other ways

Leo9 · 15/02/2009 17:47

I think it is in the public interest personally. Sometimes the state, eg us, need to say "no, that's not an appropriate way to bring up children. There ARE standards that must be reached" and no that doesn't mean middle class standards, just 'good enough' standards that for instance protect 13 yr old boys from getting in this kind of mind-fuck of a situation

BouncingTurtle · 15/02/2009 17:47

I heard on the radio they were talking about up to 8 boys

Has anyone else heard this?

When I was 12/15 no way I would be interested in a boy 2 years younger! Though there was a girl in my college who confessed to bedding a 12yo when she was 15 - my reaction and other friends' was "Ewwwwwww! What were you thinking??"

I do feel very concerned about the welfare of that baby, does seem to me that she is in danger of being exploited for financial gain And I'm not convinced that her grandmother will provide a very stable/healthy environment if this is how she has brought her daughter up...

MrsSnape · 15/02/2009 17:48

I didn't believe for one minute that he was the dad, I still don't. I'd be very, very suprised if he was even capable of it. He looks no older than my 10 year old DS.

I'm surpised doctors have not questioned this for this very reason. (unless they have).

Lulumama · 15/02/2009 17:49

and what would an appropriate punishmnet be?

imprisonment? when the parents will surely be doing a lot of the child rearing?

a large fine? when they have no money to speak of, and surely any money they make off htis, should be put away for maisie.

Leo9 · 15/02/2009 17:50

maybe it doesn't matter what the punishment is. Just that they have heard - No, this isn't good enough for children.?

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