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To reject £100 refund offer from BUTLINS after holiday from hell!

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OlderMummy1 · 26/10/2014 20:57

I wrote a letter of complaint to Butlins about a month ago after an absolutely appalling stay there. They replied yesterday (bang on the 28 days they have to reply) stating that they were sorry we were not happy and offered us £100 refund.

I am not happy with this as we had the most awful time. We went to Butlins at Skegness for the ‘Just for Tots’ week from 15th -19th September. We paid over £500 for 5 days in a gold apartment with premier dining with B line passes.

When I telephoned to book the holiday I enquired about the ages of the children who could attend the ‘Just For Tots’ break. I was advised that it would be adults with children under 5, although older siblings were welcome. I asked if any all-adult groups were allowed and was told categorically no. This convinced us to book the holiday as we had heard horror stories about hen/stag groups at Butlins. I also asked if there would be anyone to help us with our luggage as I would be travelling with my elderly mother, my 2 year old with special needs and my 6 month old. I was told that if I went to the Gold Reception someone would be able to assist me. This was particularly important as we were unable to book a ground floor room as they were all taken.

Upon arrival after a 4 hour trip I asked at Gold Reception for some assistance with luggage and was told that no one was available and we would have to do it ourselves. This took me 3 hours to do on my own, in between breastfeeding a baby, whilst my mother looked after the children. It was a very hot day and was utterly unpleasant.
That night we were all awoken at 1.30am by what sounded like a lot of drunk people going up the stairs next to our apartment. We were then kept awake until 5am by bumping, banging, laughing, shouting etc. It sounded like a group of men, although obviously we were sure that they must have children in there as we had been told adult groups were not allowed. We tried to phone the security number 3 times but there was no answer.

I complained at the Gold Reception the next day and a very harassed receptionist wrote my room number on a scrap of paper and said she would look into it. I never heard anything else.

The next night exactly the same happened, although at about 3am it sounded like some women turned up and joined in the drunk shenanigans. This continued every night of our stay.

When we left the apartment on the Friday I went to Gold Reception to ask if we could have some help with bringing the luggage down from the apartment. The receptionist told me that ‘we don’t do that due to the risk of damage to items’ which was completely contradictory to everything I had been told previously. I therefore had to struggle with our luggage myself. The cleaning staff then started to harass us at 9.30am to get into the apartment and we had to actually argue with them in order to get them to wait until 10am.

When I was packing the car I saw the people in the apartment above start to leave. I thought it would be interesting to see who came out as we had been unable to see hide nor hair of anyone. Imagine our shock and horror when 4 rough looking males came out and appeared to walk in the direction of the train station. I took a photograph of them and went immediately to complain to Gold Reception. First I was told that they must be people who had booked their break years in advance, before the Just For Tots breaks were arranged. I said that they were definitely not the sort of people to have done this. I was then told that they must be workers who they have to accommodate. This was much more likely as most of them were foreign and they looked like manual labourers. I was absolutely furious! We had paid a large amount of money for the best accommodation and Butlins thought it appropriate to put workers above us, who were out drinking until all hours and who carried on drinking thoughout the night. Why on earth they weren’t put into the staff accommodation or the caravans opposite I have no idea.

I believe that this was a safeguarding issue as these men could have been anyone. I was also concerned that if they were working on-site during the day they had been heavily drinking all night.

I believe that the advertising was misleading, the information I received over the telephone was incorrect and that my children were put at risk during our stay. All of us suffered healthwise from having hardly any sleep for 4 nights.

In their reply, Butlins stated that they had had no other complaints... blah de blah and that the people in that apartment were NOT contractors. They then implied that if people lie about who is on the booking then that is not their fault. I find this reply even more worrying! If 4 men go to the trouble of booking during a Just For Tots break, making up and paying for an imaginary child, then surely this needs investigation.

I am unhappy about accepting their offer of £100 and feel I should take it further. Luckily I have a brother in law who is a solicitor so he should be able to help me.

What would others do?

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fourwoodenchairs · 26/10/2014 21:03

You lost me at your sweeping assumptions of those men.

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YellowTulips · 26/10/2014 21:05

You may have a point but tbh I found the tone of your post a bit unpleasant and entitled.

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Fabulous46 · 26/10/2014 21:05

I agree with Four. I stopped reading after you said you had taken a photograph of them!

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smashboxmashbox · 26/10/2014 21:06

You sound like a nightmare.

How dare you make assumptions about those men like that?

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Nicknacky · 26/10/2014 21:06

Yanbu for being annoyed if you were told that there would be no same sex groups but you are def being unreasonable to imply there was a safeguarding issue and implying they were trying to get close to kids.

Personally I would have insisted on a move at the time, but I would take the £100 refunded. It's a fifth of what you paid after all.

Yanbu for being annoyed at being told you would be assisted with your luggage, but surprised it took you 3 hours to manage that.

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ilovesooty · 26/10/2014 21:06

If you have a brother in law who is a solicitor whose assistance you intend to seek I'm not sure why you want to know what others would do.
I certainly wouldn't have taken unsolicited photographs of other people though.

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RJnomore · 26/10/2014 21:07

Ok it was inconvenient and you have a point re the luggage but how the fuck was it a safeguarding issue?

Hotels etc do not vet their clientele you know - and just because an adult is with a small child doesn't mean that adult is not a threat.

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WD41 · 26/10/2014 21:07

Yep lost me when you started going on about forriners what looked like manual labourers

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OlderMummy1 · 26/10/2014 21:07

I didn't know how else to phrase it. They all spoke with foreign accents, they were wearing overalls, shoes covered in paint and seemed to be carrying bags of tools. Surely it is not an unfair assumption to make that they are manual labourers?

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smashboxmashbox · 26/10/2014 21:07

How do you know the men weren't just ordinary holiday makers? How dare you assume they should have been put in staff caravans and how on earth did they put your children at risk?

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StepCatsmother · 26/10/2014 21:08

Can you remind me which reception you went to again? I think it might have been the Gold one, but I'd welcome clarification Grin

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smashboxmashbox · 26/10/2014 21:08

How do you know the men made up and paid for an imaginary child?

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Nicknacky · 26/10/2014 21:08

What difference does it make if they were workers?

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StarlingMurmuration · 26/10/2014 21:09

Why do you feel that your children were at risk during your stay?

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OlderMummy1 · 26/10/2014 21:10

I assumed that they weren't ordinary holidaymakers as no parties are allowed to stay on site during a Just For Tots break if they don't have children. Therefore, they must have lied about having a child with them in order to stay there. Surely that's a bit off.

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DomiKatetrixortreat · 26/10/2014 21:10

Bronze StepCatsmother you're mistaken.

Horrible assumptions about those men.

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Sirzy · 26/10/2014 21:10

So staying near a group of men is a safeguarding issue? I lost most sympathy at that point

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StarlingMurmuration · 26/10/2014 21:11

And how much luggage did you have that it took you three hours to move it? Did you actually spend most of that time breast feeding?

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manicinsomniac · 26/10/2014 21:11

I think £100 is quite a generous offer really

The only two things you have to complain about are taking luggage to your own room and rowdy neighbours.

The luggage thing - annoying but such is life. I'm very surprised a place like Butlins offered assistance in the first place but they shouldn't have misled you. I can't see how it took you 3 hours to drag a few cases around though.

The neighbours - the only real problem is the misinformation you were given as I guess you might not have gone otherwise. But they just sound like a group of people having fun who had different holiday priorities to you. Which can be annoying but is always going to happen in public holidaying spots. Certainly not a safeguarding issue! You are responsible for safeguarding your own children from the general public all the time.

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26Point2Miles · 26/10/2014 21:11

Lol what a load of fuss!

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fourwoodenchairs · 26/10/2014 21:12

So what if they were manual labourers and so what if they were foreign? What's that got to do with the price of bread?

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ilovesooty · 26/10/2014 21:12

Why did you feel you had the right to photograph them? What kind of "foreign" were they? Why is their ethnicity relevant?

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CrashDiveOnMingoCity · 26/10/2014 21:12

Good effing gawd!

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Roseformeplease · 26/10/2014 21:12

How does their clothing make them dangerous? I could understand if you felt it was a stag party (.who could be plumbers, bankers or whatever) but what they do for a living is irrelevant.

And, to be honest, if you want posh and quiet, Butlins is not really that kind of place.

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26Point2Miles · 26/10/2014 21:13

Safeguarding??? That's YOUR job. The same as it would be in a five star hotel at a deluxe resort!

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