Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 9

[ickky]

The Tribunal started on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

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“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

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Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5

Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6

Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7

Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552521-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-8

Allison Bailey - claimant

Witnesses for the claimant:

Nic Williams - Fair Play for Women
A Woman's Place
FiLiA
Kate Harris - LGB Alliance

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC
Kirrin Medcalfe - head of trans inclusion Stonewall
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC and in charge of writing report on AB/complaints
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC

Current Witness - Charlie Tennant - Clerk at GCC

To come

Luke Harvey - Clerk at GCC
Louise Hooper - Clerk at GCC
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge

CT has a ‘Don’t know nothing, guv,’ quality that would stand him in good stead in any unionised profession.

Thanks for the new thread.

Thanks @ickky I think these threads are filling up at an increasingly quick rate!

Thanks for new thread @ickky

That attitude wouldn't wash with MR, tabby.

Well CT made a change from the other legally trained witnesses who couldn't understand questions if they had more than a few words

Settling in for the next instalment

Thanks @ickky

CTs answer to the question about instructions from above was off kilter with the quality of his other answers. Not necessarily a lie but very uncomfortable.

I'll repost my post with the extra witness details as they haven't made it in.

I’m finding CT very credible and clear.

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This is very interesting. He is very straightforward. This is very different from the barristers who were actually much less confident of their ground.

Thank you.

Checking in here.

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Thank you x

I think I’m convinced by what he said about not caring one way or the other about her tweets, and not being told not to clerk her. Or certainly not convinced otherwise.

But it’s also true that her clerking did change (in practice, if not officially). There must be a reason for that but maybe it’s that he perceived her as difficult: I got that sense from him. He sees her as picky, fussy and not willing to do favours. I wonder whether he treats the men the same as the women?

Just for the new thread. Witnesses so far that are missing or incomplete in the list:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women
Dr Judith Green - Woman's Place UK
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA

Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall

I'm not a fan of JR's...

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Is it the case that the GCC QCs we've heard from so far (AB excepted) have been so busy trying to get ahead of the argument and spot hidden traps that they have come across as evasive and waffly, whereas CT is just answering the questions asked and so comes across as honest and believable?

I don't like JRs style

I can only see thumbnails of the bingo cards but I am sincerely hoping that Cunt Wipe is on there!

Fight!

Thread 9 already? My, seems like only yesterday.......

Thanks @ickky