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Dear NSTBXH

991 replies

WellWhoKnew · 03/10/2014 17:01

Dear NSTBXH,

I was safely met at the court and walked up to team WWK's room, led by my solicitor, and followed by yours, who actually is a nice, smiley woman - good with children, I'd expect.

She has selected a barrister, who also has a face suitable for children, which is good, I think, given her specialism is y'know them little beings and what not.

But the bad news, the judge was a fellow barrister, and not a judge, just deputising for one. He specialises in...well you guessed it. Quite a cosy team they made too.

The lovely SHB, who is an attractive enough woman, but definitely would 'frighten the children', is just lovely (to me) was already there to meet me.

"Why I am here?" She asked as we entered the room.

'Cos I is getting divorced, innit?' I said, hopefully.

So off she popped to find a more sensible person.

But sadly came back with the news that the 'shb' doesn't know why she's here either.

Anyway off SHB went to do her thing in the corridor with 'shb', which is mostly just standing around chatting over our respective positions.

Mine was sitting down drinking tea, back to the door. I never got to see yours.

Your 'shb' submitted today was just a waste of time, so we should all just prepare for a Final Hearing. My SHB submitted that if you would like to make a reasonable offer, than something could be salvaged and we could spare ourselves the stress of litigation.

Ever pessimistic, SHL and I decided to attack your fourth Form E and start preparing for a Final Hearing, whilst we had SHB on board (and paid for).

Then 'shb' called out 'SHB', the latter being a very wise woman, may be a secret Mumsnetter. Well, Who knows? But she does know 'No' is a complete sentence.

Would I revise downward the maintenance?

No.

Apparently this was the wrong answer.

Would we treat this as a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness Session?

No.

Don't think you were overly chuffed at that either.

Would I at least discuss the maintenance pending suit being unfair?

No.

Seriously? No. Fuck off.

Would I provide the answers to the questionnaire today?

No.

It transpires you are very pissed off indeed, and feel very badly treated. Do I care?

Nope.

We asked that you would consider paying something towards the costs you have forced on to me.

Apparently, not.

We suggested that we ask the judge to grant a Legal Services Order, and informed them that we had proposed to submit a Wasted Costs Order.

So you agreed to release all the capital tied up in my solicitor's account to help me overcome the on-going problems you have been dumping on me since you left, and also to fund my legal fees.

Hallelujah!

So I can at least pay for today's waste of time.

So six hours sitting in a stuffy room, lots of giggles were had, and just one near cry.

The realisation that by you effectively spending all my Spousal Maintenance each month, and leaving me in a hell of a hole: all you have done, is pushed up my needs and proved it's inadequate, and left me sleepless for days at a time (including last night).

So SHB then went to tackle this.

You have agreed not to apply for the absolute until at the earliest next year. Should either of us feel the need to do otherwise, we go to prison.

It seems we are now in a forced marriage.

And one you must continue paying for until a court decides otherwise.

I bet you're furious.

Secondly, your spending is excessive. Your shifting of the assets and hiding them, has raised lots of questions. You have now signed undertakings to cease this 'master of the universe' behaviour.

Or go to prison.

Well done. You agree to unfreezing mine, and then got your own frozen.

We have agreed to have minimum contact, and only on very specific points. No more nonsense.

I can finally sleep at night knowing I can pay the bills in the short term, and your pestering of me must stop.

So there was lots of to-ing and fro-ing between the barristers (all three of them) whilst I drank tea, worked on your Form E v.4 with SHL.

It's entirely predictable that a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness is not going to be fruitful, and so finally your 'shb' informed the court that this was one of those 'exceptional cases' that doesn't get to have an FDR. But still we pushed for one, in the hope you would try and co-operate with this divorce you instigated.

But nope.

And so we now head into a Final Hearing instead. For me that's a good result (cheaper), but SHL and SHB not so much - they have to cancel their holidays.

The only winner of today was little old 'me'. The judge couldn't give a fuck, and the legal teams aren't happy at all with the proceedings. As for you?

I don't give a fuck.

We have a very strict timetable. Given we have met the previous timetable exactly as prescribed, and yours haven't - good luck with that. One deviance and the Final Hearing will be delayed. You have to rely on 'shs' now getting her act together.

Not.my.problem.com

Talking of whom, your smiley shs was pretty pissed off by the end of the day though, opening the door and slamming down paperwork. But the most amusing part was your barrister shouting at mine in the corridor.

Amazing how you make so many women miserable and antsy. Isn't it?

SHL and I were in fits of giggles. I only nearly broke down once today, and I can assure you it wasn't about you. It was about the hell of the last five months, the shocking way you left, and the endless misery of having to cope with it, the stunts you have pulled.

But the undertakings are so extensive, I know what I have to do in the five months to survive. I know what you can't do anymore. And I imagine you are furious you are going to have to keep me in my lovely home until at least then.

So I didn't see you today, other than the back of your head, as we were in a proper court room, which I didn't expect. The 'judge' asked you some questions and you spoke, but just like the last hearing, your disembodied voice isn't really that bothersome.

And so neither are my feelings about you these days.

And hilariously, the song on the radio as I came home:

I came in, checked my emails, and have received an email from the police regarding the other idiot who has caused me some grief this year, and who has been dealt with by the courts this week as well. It says,

Victim Support are able to offer you emotional and practical support, they can be contacted on 0845 6121 900

Thought you might make better use of it. I'm doing okay all things considered.

Wife, still getting divorced.

(Sorry good people of MN...I may be ranting on here for quite some time).

OP posts:
WellWhoKnew · 03/10/2014 17:03

Part 1

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2076472-Dear-STBXH?msgid=49877732#49877732

OP posts:
madrose · 03/10/2014 17:10

I'm so proud of you and your team.

PancakesAndMapleSyrup · 03/10/2014 17:14

Good news, wwk. Despite the wranglings at least your fees are being paid. Koko, i lurk mostly but you are doing well its a grievance period as well as a pissing of period and rather had emotionally to deal with and willbbe for the ongoing future. Your Nstbxh is a twat and you are well rid but happiness will come at some point in the future. Toxic relationships may be a book to read when you have time. All the best.

Whereisegg · 03/10/2014 17:15

Rant away Thanks Wine Cake

ShouldHaveMarriedTimDowling · 03/10/2014 17:25

Oh gawd... Glad you have something to celebrate. Shame about the shl and shb but I'm sure they'll find a way to make stbxh pay for their wasted time and missed holiday too.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 03/10/2014 17:25

Do I read into this that he's had a very small portion of his comeuppance served to him today? And that there might be more dished out at a later date?

I cannot conceive of how much money he's been responsible for wasting, for a divorce he's instigated, and is making much more difficult and unfair than it ever needed to be.

I'd have had him strung up for the hiding of assets bit.

Bloody hell-fire he's an effing arsewipe and a half.

TheHoneyBadger · 03/10/2014 17:26

glad to hear he will be picking up the bill for this latest round of time wasting and game playing. do you think he might 'get it' yet and start to play ball? or perhaps his sense of master of the universe-ness is worth thousands more in fees yet?

aylesburyduck · 03/10/2014 17:26

Cheering you on. Don't let that twuntfuttock get you down xxx

AcrossthePond55 · 03/10/2014 17:27

So, you will be tied to him (only legally, never emotionally ever again!) for a little while longer. That's bad. But you now have your fees paid, he's been told to knock off the spending/hiding of assets, and you will continue in your safe, comfy home for the time being. That's vvv good. I'd say that's a win for Team WWKâ„¢!!

It's Friday. Court is over. It's after 5 pm (there, at least, here it's still morning!) so it's a lovely evening. Open that bottle of 'whatever tickles your fancy' and have a nice sit down and listen to the peace and quiet. Then raise your glass and have a good giggle at STBX's discomfiture. I'm sure he was all pouty faced and lower lip stuck out. That's always good for a laugh!

Meerka · 03/10/2014 17:27
Lambzig · 03/10/2014 17:31

I don't yet understand the legal details, but it sounds as if you and your team didn't give an inch on what must have been a harrowing day for you. My utmost respect.

WellWhoKnew · 03/10/2014 17:56

Thanks all. It wasn't too bad - certainly not as bad as I feared yesterday. I didn't see him, even when we were in the court room, so that was a relief.

Also the 'court order' that's been issued is with a penal notice so there can be no more fuckwittery.

If he or his team muck about with the paperwork like they have done leading up to the court hearing, then the Final Hearing will be postponed. He will not want that.

So either he behaves himself, or he will have to pay compensation, or go to prison. That simple, that binding and that frightening.

But also, given that my little 'day-trip, could have been the most expensive 15 minutes of my life: costing as it has today just over 6K.

And all because they wouldn't tell us why they were bringing a barrister, we had to pull mine back in.

He will not negotiate at all. He is a very angry little man.

I am a relieved woman who is going out to a party tonight. I may also, finally, sleep for hours for the first time in five months.

, obviously this isn't a victory, but we now have a plan.

A woman with a plan is a very dangerous thing. Three women working on one plan: Armageddon!

OP posts:
FantasticButtocks · 03/10/2014 18:07

Bravo! Wine

mamas12 · 03/10/2014 18:15

I salute you WWK
I salute you in recognition of all you have been through and yet to come
I have been reading and recognising a few fuckwit traits from. 'The other side' in regards my own divorce
My mouth does close now I picked it up off the floor fir the last time six years agoWink
Good luck you and the SHL and SHB
Are doing a Stirling job

IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 03/10/2014 18:20

I hope that Armageddon hits him very hard, very fast and in the all the places likely to cause the most damage

DPotter · 03/10/2014 18:23

A woman with a plan is a very dangerous thing. Three women working on one plan: Armageddon!

Wow what words of inspiration..........! De-lurking to acknowledge your amazing-ness Thanks

AWitchThisWayComes · 03/10/2014 18:23

I agree with Ithought! At least he can't screw you around so much now WWK Smile Thanks

mineofuselessinformation · 03/10/2014 18:49

Well you had a bit of a day didn't you?
I hope you get some sleep tonight and that you didn't really boil the gin as you might fancy some.

Aoifebelle · 03/10/2014 19:16

I so want to go out and get shit faced with you, SHL and maybe your Dr friend as well, she sounds like a game bird. I think you should take odds on him ending up behind bars. It could just be that his fuckwittery literally knows no bounds. Would the imevitable delay be worth it for him doing a stretch at her majestys?

AcrossthePond55 · 03/10/2014 19:18

So, is that like "Armageddon the hell out of this marriage, come hell or high water"? Grin I loves me a bad pun. Especially after champagne. Or gin.

Damn, it's only 11:20 am here. Can I go by GMT and start drinking now?

aylesburyduck · 03/10/2014 20:33
Grin
seasavage · 03/10/2014 20:38

Fabulous Wellwhoknew. You're an inspiration. Tea drinking clearly imbues you with awesome powers. (Nah, I suspect you are just this great naturally).

TheysayIamparanoid · 03/10/2014 20:55

Have a fab time at the party!

MrsC1969HJ · 03/10/2014 20:59

Checked in....read with awe.....you are amazing and still here for me, even after all of this x

mineofuselessinformation · 03/10/2014 21:36

Just coming back to say - I know you are probably frustrated that you didn't get as much sorted today as you would have liked, and yes, sod it, you have to stay married for a bit longer...
But (and I should probably have put that in capitals), my goodness me, I'm not a betting person, but I'd actually lay a few hundred on the arsehole of doom being more than a bit annoyed, wouldn't you? Smile
One round down, a few more to go. You know it will be worth it in the end.
(By the way, my divorce took almost three years from start to finish!)