Two days in a row and they are going to bed like stars (but not coming out at night, bad choice of simile) Must avoid feeling smug as will doubtless regret it violently tomorrow!

Oh Daisy, I don't know how you have managed to bf for so long as you seem to have alternated between thrush and mastitis for most of the last 8 months! I like lollipoping. Haven't made much money yet, but thats because of me not doing enough advertising etc. I also see chocolates as my proper business and nappies as a public service (and nice excuse for 'having' to get new ones to try!) I know when I tried to research washables online while pg with DS I was so confused and clueless - met a lovely lollipop lady who made it all seem simple then didn't buy from her as mw gave me loads of free bambino mio! Then met Lollipop lady at conference last September) so I'd like to help people not see cloth as scary and difficult.

3 cases of swine flu at DS nursery

We haven't got a fire escape plan but I need to get one sorted if I want OFSTED round - a couple of friends have mentioned they might be interested in me CMing their DC so might get paperwork sorted

new thread

Just a quickie this evening from me as I'm busy with my selling empire and trying to decide whether to become a lollipop nappy advisor....YORKY, HELP!!

There are five confimred cases of swine flu at DS's school including the friend of the boy whose house he was at this afternoon for a playdate . We got a letter home yesterday that said children had been sent home with 'flu like symptoms and containing the NHS guidance on basic hygiene etc. We were told at the children's centre this afternoon that there were three confirmed cases and given the same letter. No other information than that. DS1 is hoping that they close the school since there are only three days left.

Oh, and I think I have thrush now ....just when you think BFing is a breeze <sigh>

Happy Birthday to DS1 Ceebee, hope you had a lovely day.

hello all

Mimi is ok, just sounds awful because she has a sore throat. SHe is bum shuffling about though- it's very funny

ceebee hope birthdya celebrations are going well.

barbs we have a fire escape plan- it is a very good idea (if a little morbid). We made it when the firemen came round to fit our smoke alarms. I remember getting in a bit of a tiz when DS was a baby and in his room at the other end of the house to us for the first time.

Hope days back at work have gone well for everyone.

Evening all

My manic week seems to be running quite smoothly so far.

O is doing fine, but still no teeth and i really must start to do some kind of sleep training as is seem to be cradling him for longer every evening.

3 of the local schools has had cases of swine flu now and they have even shut the secondary school.

The problem is they are all within half a mile of my house

Hi Ladies

Rosa hope you get some sunshine soon. We are coming down south although not all the way o cornwall next week! We are going to Burnham on sea! Need to sort clothes for cold, wet and warm and dry weather, Thanks goodness we have a roofbox!

DD1 is enjoying being off school, I was due back yest but I don't work the holidays so have gained an extra 7 weeks!

I am also very broody.. only thing stopping me is worry about my legs and hips, oh and being on a constant period

Barbs hope w ok now. I can sympathise with being pinched and pulled when feeding, think my boobs have hardened up a bit now!

Ceebee hope ds1 had good birthday.

Daisy well done on ebay selling.

Juanitad sounds like 1st days back are going well.

Sorry to all thise I have forgotten. X

We are here for a wee while yet so lots of time for summer to come back. Took Dd to the beach anyway in wellies and wind jacket she had a good run round / splash - opps filled the wellies with water on removing said
boats boots saw that her toes were a bit pink and checked size- opps guilty mums emotion she needs a new pair!
barbs glad you found a nice doctor.
juanitad congrats on going back to work and hope it stays good
daisy pleased that nips are getting better- mastitis cleared up now? As for being broody I confess to being a little bit as the 9mths is looming and that will mean she has been more out than in me !!!!!
Lola LOL 850 e mails sounds like me when I went back to work after dd1 some people even sent me snotty ones saying why haven't you replied despite an out of office e mail going automatically !
Yorky hang in there they days will fly past and well done at the 7.45 !

glad you're ok now daisy! Yep i can empathise with the sore nipples... also getting pinched/ nipped a lot at the mo - bruises on my boobs and bingo wings!

yes barbs, thankfully it wasn't too bad so I was able to feed through it. My nipples are really sore though, I think his latch has changed since he got his teeth

evening!
fingers crossed for a better evening yorky*
*Ceebee lovely that your ds had a fab party!Nice work daisy with the ebaying! did you sort your mastitis?
Hope you enjoued your sausage and mash FoF!
Poor mimi pinky. Hope it doesn't mean more poorliness
glad you had good first day back juanita
soz about the weather rosa
thanks for messages about W. dr prescribed inhaler and spacer thing just in case and suggested it might have been croup. she was really lovely and sympathetic. anyhoo he seems all fine now! washer fixed (i think) and tv working, beer in hand, boy in bed, happy barbs! house is still upside down but starting to feel like home!

btw - anyone have a fire escape plan? haven't figured mine out yet, might buy a rope ladder - paranoid?

Evening guys

Sounds like you had a lovely first day back indeed Juanitad. Coffee with Colin Jackson too . My first day went very well too. I had a lovely day catching up with everyone and no teaching either which was nice. Although i had to start the day with an inbox of 850 emails {shock]

Well done Yorky on getting kiddies all tucked up by yourself. I struggle sorting just one out by myself so much respect to you

Hi to everyone else. Gotta go to bed now, work again tomorrow - god haven't said that in a while!

fudge, there was £350 of prams in there, the clothes were going for average £1.50!!

Glad your first day back wasn't too bad jaunita, and at meeting Colin Jackson; he seems like an all round nice chap

Yorky, glad your day wasn't too bad either. I say leave the washing up till tomorrow and have your early night; I take sleep when I can find it these days as i never know when the next good night is coming...and talking of which, the young man slept from 8 till 4.30 last night! I'm under no illusion that he can repeat it tonight as he has already been up for another feed since going down at 7.30!

Rosa, we got the Britax Evolva in the end. I really like it; we put it in on the slight recline and I'm happy to leave it like that indefinately. DD likes the wee cup holders at the side, and i like the big wings that give her a comfy sleep. Bumble will be in his infant seat for a long time yet as his head is nowhere near the top of it.

I am feeling soooooo broody at the minute <nutter>. I was just reminiscing that DD was 8months when I got pregnant with bumble, and a spring baby would be lovely! I am clearly suffering some sort of mental breakdown though.

Hi Ladies Just back from my sisters wedding in formby, was very humid down there am back to crisp scottish air again lol, just away to catch up.

Single mum for a fortnight has got off to a better start than I hoped for, both fed, bathed and asleep by 745, even remembered to feed next doors cat!
Washing up is glaring at me from the side of the sink though and I desperately need an earlier night than yesterday, although surely DD can't have two nights in a row as bad as last night, please!
Hope the poorly people are improving

Fudge no, I teach secondary, I'm a languages teacher. But they aren't making me teach all of my lessons this week, I'm using the time to get things sorted and get back on track after all that lovely time off! Forgot to say earlier that I had coffee with Colin Jackson this afternoon! He was at an official opening of part of our school and I managed to blag my way into the headteacher's meet and greet with him. He was lovely, and soooooo good looking!

Thanks Ceebee...I haven't received a VIP invitation until way too late to get any bargains in the last four Next Sales. Am of yours.....maybe it's done alphabetically?

I knew there was something else....Daisy the Next sale starts this weekend - I have just got my VIP invitation through for the online sale this week.

Barbs how awful for you - you must have been terrified Really hope you get some answers soon for all your sake's.

Juanitad glad your first day went well - popping home at lunchtime for your P fix sounds like a fabbo idea Only 4 more days to go.....

Just passing through as busy busy busy! Tis DS1's birthday tomorrow - had his party (and also went to his best friend's party) yesterday, DH off today so have been out and about with the boys, and off to Thomasland tomorrow - by Wednesday I will be ready for a rest

Hope everyone ok

Hello all

Rosa sorry you are having a soggy time, hope you are having some fun regardles!

Juanitad glad you enjoyed being back at work.

v.ipmressed with the ebaying, Daisy I really need tog et on with it. DS wants to ebay some thigns too as he has seen this aeroplane thingy he really wants- I'mm just hoping he gets some money for his stuff.

Fudge from my limited experience at ebaying the end time/day seems to be quite critical, as far as I can tell from ended listings.

Barbs hope W is ok and things settle down at home soon-.x

Last week of school for DS this week.

mimi is very hoarse today.

chocolategal school isn't out here until a week on Wednesday. Not sure about anyone else, but just trying to make the most of not having 3 DS's around to keep me fromthecomputer busy
barbs hope you get some answers quick, it's too stressful for that to happen again!
lacks £400???? everytime I sell something on ebay, I get like £1.04, or at a push, £2.01, no matter how gorgeous it is!! Can you sell my stuff please
rosa hope you get some good weather there!
juanitad well done on a successful day, remind me, is it primary school that you teach???

oh goody, we're all having sausages and mash for tea, my fave, with a big dollop of HP sauce. Forget the calories today! Must go, DH due home soon, don't want him thinking I'm slacking!

Hi all,

barbs, sounds v scary, hope W is ok and that you figure out what was causing it

Well, I have ordered a Baby Jogger City Mini........unfortunately there were none left at Kiddicare so have paid full price!! Hopefully it will be delivered by the end of the week, yay!

It was my first day back at work today.......and I really enjoyed it!! No doubt the novelty will wear off soon, but it was fab! I was so busy all day, it just flew by. And as I live close to work I came home at lunchtime to spend half an hour with P and scooted straight out of school at the end of the day so was home at 3.10!! All in all a very nice day, although come September I won't be able to see him at lunch time and won't be able to finish so early, but at least doing it like this eases me into it this week. Plus P is being looked after by my parents this week who have come to stay, so I know they are in good hands!

Lolabella, how was your first day back.

Barbs how scary for you, hope W is better and you get some answers soon.

Daisy you go girl, I have a pile of stuff waiting to go on at the mo, just haven't got round to it yet!

Weather is crap oop North too Rosa, every time I leave the house it bloomin rains.
How long are you over for? Hopefully you will get a few nice days!

I keep trying to justify to DH that we need isofix seats but he says no point blank ah well!
I have had to turn J round though as I really wasn't happy with the rer facing fit in the new car, he is big enough so it is fine!

I've been on a mad cleaning spree today but don't seem to have got any further then dusting hey ho there is always tomorrow.... or the next day.....or even next week - I hate cleaning!

Hope everyone else is well.

Tegan your dress sounds lovely, hope you have a nice day!

Hey Rosa shame you aren't getting the best weather for your hols. I noticed halfords have a sale on carseats so I think we will have a trip there at the weekend.

We need a new thread title soon!!!!?????

I am here barbs how very scary for you hope that you getto teh bottom of it.
daisy did you get a car seat sorted out ? I went and tried loads of 2/3 and dd1 was too small for all of them. Then we tried the Concord Evo lift PT and bingo as it has moving shoulder /neck/ protection she fitted- and far more comfy than the borrowed Graco one. I bought it there and then and of course then found out that I could have got it on the internet for £20 less- but the borrowed one had to go back today!
Still pretty crappy here in the west country but we are making out between storms...We were going to a huge country show today but gave up on that idea and good thing the Tv has shown it very soggy !
Great that on this pc I can finally highlight names........

Hi all
glad W is ok barbs that sounds very scary.
Are the schools off now as it's very quiet here?

oh barbs . That sounds really scary. I hope W is OK today and that you can get a quick referral for him.

I have been run off my feet this morning with posting things, picking things up, leaving feedback etc etc; this ebay entrepeneur stuff is blooming hard work!

Still I have mabe over £400 in ten days; which is enough for the bathroom suite we have seen ....now for the tiles <digs out unwanted stuff>

That sounds so scary Barbs, I hope you managed to sleep after that. The last thing you need in the middle of a house move is a poorly baby, I really hope your appt comes through soon and you get some answers

sniping incidents!!

hello all!
Quick me post
Had to call ambulance last night as W started wheezing really bad. Not sure if asthma attack(me and dh both have)or reaction to bolognaise sauce - tried a wee bit on leg, tummy and arm - no reaction so put tiniest dab on lip. 15 mins later wheezing. Think tho might be reaction to rug I bought for new house - loose fibres. Gah! So scary this allergy thing. Am taking W to docs this aft to ask what to do if happens again. Laid in bed with W last night listening to his chest rattle - awful. Have had to go hosp myself with asthma attacks before so don't wanna take any chances and am sick and tired of being pushed from pillar to post. Already, since coming back feel like we have been passed around - HV to dr to HV to Dr again and finally referral but won't hear about appt for another 2 weeks.
We have got moved into new house - lovely but everything is everywhere already had leaky washing machine and no telly asthma attack (or something) and numerous snipinmg incidents.
Ha well. Things can only get better (crosses fingers...)
x

That proves I need an early night - the was supposed to be does that look like a yawn?

Tegan wine silk sounds lovely

We're doing OK here but a bit cos just done hand and feet casts of DD and she made a fist so got air bubbles in her finger ends and is missing 2 fingernails The foot is lovely though
DH suggested painting the hand anyway and giving it to MIL for Christmas!

Hello quiet people, hope you're all being sensible and having an early night - I should but haven't got round to it yet! DH away from 10am tomorrow, back mid next week, hopefully no later than Thursday

Where are you all, hope your all ok. x

Morning all

fudge I have just about got the dress crisis sorted, Wine silk dress with silver, shoes bag and accessories.

This morning O never woke until 8.30am afer being put to bed at 8.30 last night and having a bottle at 4am, so a very successful night in the tegan household.

I have a majorly busy week coming up, not only is dd1 leaving school for secondary, there are special assemblies, agm, and i have to go and have my nails, eyebrows and other beauty treatments ready for the big day on saturday.

Is that the one which folds itself into a pull along suitcase JuanitaD? I saw it at the baby show but was being very strict about not buggying so couldn't even tell you the name [v impressed with self emoticon!]

Definitely like the look of it Daisy, am very tempted..........am also interested in that pushchair that was on the Apprentice a while ago, does anyone know anything about that one? Is it meant to be any good?

bumble doing the velcro thing as well....must be their age!

Yep I have one of those ol' clingy babes aswell! The Hamster is just screaming constantly - and it is particularly worse when he is left in a room by himself. I am hoping it is seperation anxiety and that it passes soon as it is becoming very tiring!! But, then he smiles one of his gorgeous smiles at me and I forget my irritation - very clever these babies aren't they?

Juanitad/Lolabella good luck this week - it will be fine and then you have a lovely 6 weeks off

Daisy ouch for your boobs Hope they improve soon!

Hectic time here - it is DS1's birthday on Tuesday but we are having his party tomorrow. He is SO excited, particularly as his best friend at nursery is also having his birthday party tomorrow so that is 2 parties in one day where he gets to play with his best friend

Yorky, sleepover sounds like a brilliant idea ....I'll see if I can offload DS1 for the day with the GPs and bring the two little ones with me.

jaunita.....have a look here for vids of the City Mini.

Work....I emailed my letter of resignation on Thursday

I'm back at work on monday too Juanitad same as you then off for summer! To be honest i wish i had been there this week too as had the most awful week with O. He has been so whiney and clingy all week. Not sure what the problem is. Thinking teeth as we have none yet but who knows

Poor Daisy, hope you are feeling better. I had thrush when breastfeeding and i remember that being bloody painful enough never mind Mastitis.

Enjoy your hols Rosa

Hi to everyone else

Hi again, doing better at not falling off 'threads I'm on'

Hope your boobs are better soon Daisy, if you want to come for a day out or sleepover here during the holiday we could at least have someone to chat to at silly o'clock in the morning!

DH has started asking when DD is moving into her own room more often recently and tbh, I am glad he is going away for a fortnight on Monday. She has settled better tonight after making her go for a second chance at an afternoon nap today. Wondering if she wa struggling on, then being too tired to have her bedtime feed so snacking all evening? So many possibilities, so little clue

Rosa, have a lovely time in Cornwall - the rain is part of the atmosphere!

Quick question to all the the City Jogger Mini (is that right?) ladies. I am v tempted to get one, Daisy has been telling me how good the double is and it seems that those of you with the single really rate it too. So my question is, do you think it would be a good pushchair to take on hols? ie is it nice and light for travelling, does it fold small, does it have enough shade from the sun?

Back to work for me on Monday (although then I get the summer off so not too bad). I'm looking forward to it and dreading it in equal measure!!

Ok so i missed teh UK summer then ? Am in Cornwall and its tipping it down here !!!!
Journey went ok and whatever minirosa had it has gone now. DD1 happy to be here and finding her toys again . Minirosa ok but having mega gagging over food I will do a post on it as it is strange she was on mashed rather than puree. Oh and she also does thiese screams as well but on taking in breath so they sound very funny!
Good news on tne op ceebee and total bugger on the mastitis Daisy - Hope you can get rid of it soon - and also that bumble gets better.
Coolcat hope Becca doesn't need anitbiotics positive vibes she shakes it off soon.
Right off to do some ironing me thinks as its all hands on deck here !

When he gets back Daisy request time out in the bath with hot flannel on boobie.

Fudge sorry about your argument last night, must have been the night for it as here we had a right hum dinger. I am tired as Becca is really unsettled he gets home from work and starts demanding I call up about the breakdown cover thats due for renewal in August, er no how about you phone up its 9 fucking 30 Becca still screaming at me I have the worlds longest period and since I started taking the pill I have to say I feel a bit down. Tried feeding her last nght and she was sucking and sucking then screaming as nothing there so in the end I gave her a bottle and that helped a bit. It appears that my boobies seem to think they are giving up

Daisy my DH has had to sleep downstairs last 3 nights due to Becca, prefer sleeping with her anyway!!

Right just done ironing whilst Becca asleep now I need to polish. fun fun fun

arse, I've got mastitis

boob been a bit sore for a day or two and I thought it was thrush, but I've got a roadmap of the british isles on my boob and it's burning and I feel like shite.

Had a complete wobbly at DH earlier.....his idea of me getting a break was for me to go and do the food shopping on my own . What is it with men....he gets to go fishing, I get fecking Tesco . Needless to say he has gone to do the shopping!!

fudge, I'm bloody dreading the school holidays if I'm being brutally honest.

But...we are away for the middle two weeks so that will break things up nicely I hope. Am desperately trying to arrange play dates for DS1 so he is out of my hair. Flipside of that is for every day he is at a mates, we need to reciprocate......

right, stinky bums to attend to......later xx

yorky, bumble was being a nightmare to settle as well for a bit and wanted me all the time as well. He is getting a bit better again though so I put it down to a bit of separation anxiety. They're at the right age for it.

sorry about your argument with DH . Sounds like he was thinking of a bit of how's your father (in his drunken, deluded state ) and was annoyed that it wasn't happening. I hope things are OK this morning.

My DH has taken up residence on the sofa again.....bumble was up and crying every half hour all night last night again. He seems to have the most horrendous, painful wind and I can't think what's causing it.

Part of me is annoyed that DH is getting a decent sleep, but a (bigger) part of me is glad that it circumvents any awkward situations . Still after me taking bumble downstairs at 5.30 this morning, he then let me sleep in until 10!!!! I'm getting worried about what sort of thanks he'll be looking for though

sorry, quick one; bust day ahead and I'm still in my jammies.

Hi all

I must try harder to keep up with you lot.

O still hasno teeth, isn't crawling not even on all fours, sits for a few minutes then topples.

Will definately catch up tonight as dh is out for a 2nd stag do, wedding next week

oops sorry yorky wanted to say that could it be that now that she is more aware of you being around, she is learning to "demand" you are there when she wants. Not that there is anything wrong with that, it's a natural progression into realizing you are a separate person to her, and that whole thing of being able to make a fuss until you appear. It's flattering to be wanted, but it can also be a PITA. I wouldn't hurry though into moving her because of it unless you feel she is being disturbed. In which case you could do a "trial" of her in her own room, if it doesn't get any better then you can move her back, unless you get used to it that is!!!! You do have to think of the other side of going in and picking her up, rod for your own back etc (i'm sure you've thought of this). Anyway, the old saying "this too will pass" - they are just getting into that loving their mummies stage and wanting them around all the time. While it is a pain at times, it is treasure times that don't last, having all those cuddles.

Right, will stop rambling. DH is on the running machine, so can't go to bed while the house is shaking, will be all virtuous and do the washing up <polishes halo>

Hi all
Been lurking with not much chance to post.
lacks well done on the sports day race. It was our school sports day yesterday too, but they ran out of time to do the parents' races. (shame )
winogal welcome, and if its any consolation my hair is still falling out all over the place too.
coolkat hope Becca's feeling better tonight.
ceebee that does sound as though if you're going to be laid up, it might as well be in style!
tegan hope you're sorting your clothes crisis out for the wedding!

Is anyone else's LO doing that awful screeching sound??! M loves screeching like mad, although he is happy when he does it. Driving me mad though! Oh, and he has learnt to sit up this week (proud)

For those of you with older ones - how do you feel about the school hols lurking?
I am a mixture of loving them at home and no stress of getting out the door, but slightly daunted at the thought of 6 weeks and M in tow which obviously complicates things. Thinking back to last year, we just grabbed stuff and ran out the house whenever we came up with a good idea. I fear more planning is needed this year!!

HELP! DD is being a pain at bedtimes, and all yesterday evening. She was better this evening but has been kicking off for the last half hour DH went up to settle her and she was looking for me. I went and took her and she went quiet in a couple of minutes - not looking for the boob, just me. I kind of like it but he is talking of having to break her of it. It sounds so vicious. He also wants her out of our room, we had an argument about it at 1am this morning when he got in drunk and I was feeding her. I don't know if its teeth or what, there's no temperature. Is she just a clingy baby?

noooo, itti bitti are snap all-in-ones or all-in-two's. fuzzibunz, bumgenius, wonderoos etc are pockets.

confused?.....you will be!!

Thanks daisy, the pocket ones are like the itti bitti d'lish? I'm very new to this!
Hope the aches ease by tomorrow. No Torchwood for me, I'm watching criminal minds.

Good news ceebee on the op, I would think you wouldn't be waiting long.
The private hospital near us isn't that fancy so hope you get a swanky one! Although like daisy says you might not fully appreciate it!

oh and good news about the gallbaldder op. The NHS do that to cut waiting lists as them paying for the ops privately costs less then the penalties imposed on the trusts by the govt for not meeting targets....or so I was led to believe!!

I was looking forward to the night off as well, but it wasn't much of a holiday....the food was fab but I was too doped up on morphine to eat it, then I had one mouthful and threw up everywhere......the bed was comfy though, and I pilfered brought home the lovely neutrogena toiletries from the en-suite toilet . I wasn't too convinced by the carpets in the room though; didn't strike me as terribly hygenic or easy to clean for a hospital room

choc if you have 15 then that gives you enough to be washing every third day. Obviously the fewer you have the more you need to be washing.

I like pocket nappies as you can have a smaller amount of the quick drying outers, but more of the inserts. I've got about ten nappies on the go at the minute and wash every other day. I don't use cloth at night though.

It can get a bit addictive though and there are lots of funky designs out there which folks feel the need to have <guilty of that myself emoticon>

ceebee...I just got up to get another glass of wine and my legs buckled under me and my hips and thighs ache.....maybe racing not such a good idea after all

anyone watching Torchwood? It's bloody brilliant, but very very chilling.

Evening all

Daisy well done on the sports day

Coolkat hope Becca is better

Spoke to my GP yesterday about my gallbladder scan results - agreed that I am going to have it taken out. Got a telephone call from the surgery today to book me into a hospital and I am getting it done at a private hospital but the NHS are paying (no idea how that works but who cares??) Have just had a look at the website for the hospital and it looks like a hotel lol - am I wrong to be quite looking forward to spending the night there?? Got my consultants appointment at the beginning of August and then no idea what the waiting list is from then.

Lol Daisy, sports day sounds fun. Hope bumble is ok overnight for you. I had to give DS calpol last night as this 4th tooth is really bothering him.

My trial pack of cloth nappys is ordered, am looking forward to trying them.
Once I've decided which ones I like how many do you normally need? I've been looking on the boards here and some ladies have over 20! I was thinking 10-12 would be enough!?!?

lol coolkat, I'm here....been busy with ebay and nappies this evening and I was out and about all day.

how is becca now? I hope she is better

Bumble is teething again I think, or else has my throat lurgy as he has been really miserable this evening and had to be dosed with calpol before bed.

Sports day at school today...I was persuaded to run in the mum's race but came fourth out of 8 so not too bad I thought, considering there were much younger and slimmer mums running!!!

Hey coolkat
where is everyone???????

COOLKAT KILLED THE THREAD

Morning
Becca not very well, I took her doc's this morning and I have to take he back again later to see if they decide to give antibiotics

I need to do some jobs but can't be arsed am tired after bad night!

Londonboots, I to have the Baby city mini jogger, I would sooner have this than the maclaren. It reclines well, basket bigger than it looks, fab hood sunshade. The downside is can't see baby but that's the same with most strollers. Kiddicare may have some left for £129.99 as I paid £160 for mine Smooth ride though for a buggy!

I have only taken Becca swimming once at Centre parcs, she hated it and does not like baths!

Must get on!

Morning everyone

londonboots mamas and papas kato buggy looks like it folds small and lies flat, it is also in the sale for £60 just now. I am waiting until I go back to work and am going to buy the baby jogger mini.

Glad you are swine flu free ellie have a fab time at wedding

Nice that the meet up went well, lovely seeing how all the babies are getting on.

We have now been refered to dermatology for E's skin, I feel the only way I can get on top of it is by using hydrocortisone which I don't want to rely on so much.

Hi to all, back later DS needing his nap!!

Morning,
Yorky that sounds lovely with your birth story, what a lovely reminder for you!

Pinky glad you found the noonoo

Ceebee swimming sounds lovely, I really must take J soon, DS1 loved it at his age and J hasnever been everything is just so much harder with 2!

Daisy how are your lo's today?

Londonboots good to see you, The Maclaren techno is big and quite heavy but I think the quest is a bit smaller and reclines - my sil has one and loves it!
I have an M&P zoom which is also big and heavy and I have had a few problems with little bits breaking but on the up side it has a wide seat which accomodates my chunky babies!

Hope everyone esle is well, It is beautiful here today so we are off the my auntys in the country for a walk!

Hello all, glad the meet up went well yesterday, but daisy, what a nightmare on the M62. Fingers crossed for next Saturday when we're going to my nephew's first birthday gathering. DB is quite honest and open about the fact that it is more for the parents than the birthday boy, but a good excuse for a takeaway and a glass of something!

How lovely to be getting the toy back Pinky, I always feel a bit better about society when something like that happens as a change from all the bad stuff in the news.

barb, I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling hormonal, yet still contemplating another baby. AF has been a couple of times but very irregularly unlike after DS when they came back late but started straight back in as if they'd never been away! Haven't done anything about contraception, then on a bad day say to DH in the evening, must make an appt.... to which he helpfully says, its up to you dear!

Londonboots, I have agraco mosaic which fits behind all the seats in our zafira, and DDs baby car seat clipped onto it even though we bought it with a different travel system. It reclines, but not sure I'd want it as my only buggy though.

Interesting what you're all saying about dwindling milk supplies, DD hasn't been sleeping well this week, she was sick on Monday? night but been fine since, but is waking every 2-3hrs every night DH wants to move her to the spare room, but if she's going to wake I don't want her too far for me to go to. (sleepy/lazy emoticon) And hairloss as well, when I wash my hair in the shower its like being caught in a spider's web!

Had a lovely birthday though, DH took DD after a 530 feed and I slept till 930! Then found a media request about homebirths on another mummy site and have spent all evening typing out my birth stories in glorious minute detail! I've even included a link to DDs birth thread! really glad I found the incentive to write it out for them. Am about to send DH a link to the birth thread at work so he can print it out for her baby souvenirs box!

sorry to anyone I missed

yay for NooNoo

hey londonboots . I forget that you aren't on here since I see you over scrabble.

I loved the double version of the city mini and think the single would be even fabbier. not sure how small it folds though, you deffo need ChocO for that.

gah pinky, I'm scratching now

DC are not long in bed again; last night has thrown our routine completeley. bumble is coming down with the lurgy as well i think; he has been really pukey today and very flat. he was just sitting cuddling into DH after teatime; not like him at all.

Just a quickie londonboots the jogger is fab but I am still a bit that I can't see M all the time when we are out in the pram. If they made a rear facing jogger it would be perfect!!

Oh that's great about the swimming, ceebee. DH takes the other two swimming on a sunday but I'm always putting the mountain of laundry away. I might try to get it done first thing this weekend and take Mimi swimming as she hasn't been yet- though she likes deep baths!

Hi londonboots glad all is well. I.'ve had a Micralite which has been fab but the recline not so good. Don't like maclarens at all, but everyone raves about the Techno I think, but I also think that's the heaviest one- so I don't know really <not much help>. I have a Bee which I love- it folds flat but not ultra compact.

Right back to the decorating. Am painting toy cupboard bright banana yellow it looks fab!

LOL ceebee - yes, it's loyalty but also my job will be MUCH easier if England win!

Pinky that is fantastic news about the Noonoo

Londonboots aren't you an Aussie or is your loyalty with your employers ?? No advice about pushchairs - I am a pushchair ignoramus tbh and I just can't get excited about them!

Daisy hope your day improved and the children were less grumpy after their naps.

Took the Hamster swimming today for the first time just me and him - he loved it (and it stopped the constant screeching/grumpiness for a while!) and I feel guilty that I have been too lazy to bother taking him before

hi all! gosh, has been so long since since i've written but have been lurking. the weeks just fly by now i'm back at work...M is 8 months! yikes! 2 teeth through, 2 coming very soon, this >< close to crawling, not sleeping through (yawn), loads of laughs and just so sweet! work and nursery both still good/ok.

glad you all had a nice meet up - one day I hope to meet some of you in RL!

got to buy a travel cot and a lightweight stroller...any recommendations? choco how's the baby jogger going?? who has a maclaren and which model is best? they all look the same to me...although to be honest, just too lazy to do the research! i just want something that has a flat/almost flat recline and folds up small!

hi to everyone else and winogal!

hope everyone is getting into the cricket (although today not so good...) - am desperate for a big England win!

haha not really an issue.. oh I'm feeling all ithcy now!

Hi Winogal hope yyou get positive news from GP. My hair is still falling out a bit but I have a bit of a thatch going on so nit really a`n issue.

Daisy hello sweetie hope you have had a restful day, and glad the blankie helps!

Mr -or should I say Mrs Camel is fine. SHe has also been to Ikea today, and next to the london Taxi is a firm favourite!

I am soo pleased- I just phoned the Trafford Centre and they have Mimi's Noonoo and wooden chain. I was really quite upset about losing that as I bought when she was just a bump, from the Eden Project, and it's kind of like her teddy. Am over the moon to be getting it back

Hi all. Thanks so much for warm welcome! Am much comforted that a number of you still have hair falling out too, but will see the GP anyway, as with my other symptoms, am paranoid that have early menopause! Still no return of AF, but have put that down to b/feeding (although only twice a day now, with v little volume). DS2 was born Nov 13, also have DS1 who is 2.5. Great fun, but knackering!

blimey, it's quiet here today

good news on the (lack of) swine flu tegan. Maybe go back for the one day and see how it goes? You can always change your mind and if you don't go back and change your mind it'll be harder to get back into it on such good terms I imagine!

Pinky...I love you . DD is sooo knackered and just wouldn't go to sleep earlier and was screaming the house down and getting hysterical. so, I gave her "your" blanket to cuddle and said "L's mummy made this for you, remember Pinky from yesterday?" and she calmed right down, said yes, cuddled it and went straight to sleep

One down, two to go.......

Morning,
I am lots better today and got my results i Dont have swine flu yee ha, so can now leave the house . My girls are getting better too
rosa glad minirosa is a bit better, it is scary when there temp goes up soo much.
barbs hope the move goes ok.
tegan I kept wondering if your were going to my sisters wedding but she is getting married on sunday in formby, I hope O is feeling better soon.
I am glad the meet up was good, will need to try and get a scottish one organised
daisy Good luck with the letter and ope your lo's are better soon.
I am going back to my work for 1 day a week (i need to work 3 months for my maty pay) but I got told yesterday I am due 13 weeks holiday based on my one day a week so I think I want to go back for a wee while then will prob have to leave and get my holiday pay, but dont know quite what to do cos in theory I could just leave and take my hols???

oops and meant to say that after their late night last night, my lot are hideous this morning (which is why I'm hiding behind the laptop). DS1 has had a temperature all night and has been sick this morning, bumble was up five times and ended up in the bed with me as it was easier (I don't think he had enough BFs yesterday) and DD was up at 5.30.

and I bit my nails down so far in the car yesterday afternoon (stressed, moi? ) that one of them is really painful today and I keep catching it on things <ouch>

hainvg a duvet day and am going to get the little ones back to bed in a bit and then doze on the sofa.

and I need to write a letter of resignation to my boss.....not looking forward to sending that.

hi tegan they grow up sooo fast don't they? I'm dreading DS1 going to high school; it seems to mark the end of childhood and the start of the journey to being an adult.

Pinky, no wonder she wanted to run after being cooped up in the pram for a few hours! I hope that Mr Camel managed to stay dry

My Rosa, you were up early. Have a good journey and I hope minirosa is OK.

barbs, moving house is one of the most stressful things that you can do and you are about to do it for the second time in a matter of weeks; it's no wonder you are feeling a bit wired. My PMT is absolutely hideous at the minute as well though and I feel really wound up when I'm ovulating as well so perhaps it is your AF about to come back? Or as Pinky says, if W is cutting down on BFs there is a hormonal response to that. Maybe a wee chat with your new HV might help though, put things into perspective and reassure you that you aren't going mad! I'm looking forward to meeting up in a couple of weeks

Morning

I appologise for not being about for a long while but it's the last 2 weeks of the school year and with a 11 and 5 yr olds i feel like i haven't slept for a month.

O has been poorly since the weekend, teething but none are through yet.

I have a wedding to attend in a weeks time, dh is best men, and i have the dress but no shoes, bag, jewellery, present, and need to get hair, make up, nails, and waxing sorted.

also dd1 leaves for secondary school next week and i am totally unprepared for her growing so fast

Glad you all had a nice time and Daisy nightmare journey back - I dread to think about it -
Barbs - I still seem to have raging hormones going from one excess to another but I am also putting that down to lack of sleep.
WInogal - hi - I don't have the hair loss but I seem to have an inbalance in some bs levels anyway time will tell .
Minirosa seems to be ok we went to the doc yesterday morning after a 4am of 40deg and sponging down until Calpol kicked in ( we had been doing alternate meds with ibroprufen baby). She had no other symptoms but as we are flying today I did not want to go with an ear infection or suchlike. DOc was great and gave her a good check over and found nothing but wanted to just check her wee - would she pee NO! Tried feeding her , tickling, everything. I went to the chemist to get a wee catching bag so we could put her in her buggy for a nap -as we were holding cotton wool over her bum ( as nappies absorb it too fast) and found some pear juice half a bottle later she did a huge wee on the cotton wool , DH hand, trousers and surgery floor. It showed negative ( phew) and yesterday she seemed a bit better -so I have packed and UK here we come!

hello all!

Well, just got back from TC- spent the entire evening chasing DD1 around Debenhams cafe...only kidding! but she certainly knows how to run!lol

Had a lovely time, and agree with others that your little boy is a star, Daisy

And oh my goodness the babies! How cute. And they really do look like proper little boys now.

Sorry the journey back was so difficult, Daisy

I have been asleep all evening. Had DS's parents evening after dinner then put Mimi to bed and fell asleep myself.

Hello Winogal*

*Barbs Hope you are feeling ok. I think it does sound a bit hormonal, to me. I get very broody and a bit emotional when I cut down feeds-and as theyr start enjoying their food this is ineviatble. Plus you haVE A lot going on with the move etc.

love to allx

hi all!
Welcome winogirl fab name!!
Glad you were well enough to make meetup Daisy but sorry to hear about journey back - what a PITA
bf think my supply must be loads less now. W feeds on and off from 4am but doesn't take any more when we get up til about 10am when i feed him to sleep. Then he has a toppy-uppy before we go out, then maybe anotherwhen we get back then a little to go to sleep at night. i can't believe how indepedant he's getting!
think am hormonal and nuts at mo - hyper sensitive, full of adrenilin it feels like, can't take criticism, confront random blokes in street kind of obsessive too. I do feel like i'm on drugs, sometimes i feel so ecstatic, high. could it just be AF about to reappear? oh also want pregnancy, sooooo broody, my God!!!
Got keys to house today - start move tomorrow, hopefully spend first night on saturday. Looking forward to it!!
xx

coolkat, agree about upping daytime feeds if possible. bumble seems really frustrated with me at the minute as well though, especially at the end of the day and my boobs certainly don't feel as full as they used to. I need to try something myself to up my supply too.

I didn't get much beyond this stage with DD so it's all unchartered territory for me.

lol ceebee....he was only doing it to show me up

I didn't get home until 7.45 . some sort of accident or something with one lane closed and the effing M62 ground to a halt. Nearly four hours of whinging, screeching, grumping and crying...and that was just me

I am done in and I still have whinging and crying rattling around inside my head...or maybe that's just the baby monitor

Fab day though , all the DC were fantastically well behaved....I'm sure that's what was rubbing off on my DS1.

Evening all

I had a lovely day aswell today - all the babies and other siblings are gorgeous (and, yes, do not believe a word Daisy says about her DS1 - he is so cute and very well behaved!!)

Glad TC went well.

Crici I understand what you mean about feed more make more milk but I was thinking I should only be needing to BF her 3 / 4 times a day max now that she is on 3 meals a day. Will give kellymom a look. Think upping feeds may be the only way!

Thanks

Hi everyone,
Welcome Winogirl

Well I had a fab time at the TC today, it was lovely to see how much the babies are progressing, They were all as good as gold again.

Daisy Your DS1 was just lovely, I don't believe he could be anything else

Ellie hope your LOs are better today.

Rosa hope minirosa is OK.

Hello all, have been lurking but haven't had chance to post as usual.
Hope the northern ladies are having a good meet-up at the TC
Ellielou Hope you feel better soon, and that Millie does too.
Daisy Glad you're feeling better.
Coolkat I was interested to read your comment about bf because I was beginning to think the same. After reading good old Kellymom here I've been increasing the amount of feeds E has during the day. For example she'll have two feeds during the morning, one of them just before lunch and two again in the afternoon, one of them just before tea. In the evening she has another one just before bed and then she'll feed again at around 10.30pm/11. Then she might feed once during the night and again at 5.30/6am. This is just her pattern, but HTH.
Welcome Wingogal My hair is still falling out too, but not as much as before. It still looks very thin though. I have an underactive thyroid so if you have other symptoms then ask your GP for a blood test.
We took E to Holland at the weekend and she was great. She adapted really well even though her routine was totally disrupted. Now we're home she's slotted right back into her UK routine too so I'm pleased about that!
Must go, she's just woken up - hello to everyone else!

Welcome Winogal.
My hair is still falling out alot. It is looking decidedly thin and I am not confident that I can make it long spangely for M's christening this sunday. Am excited, but also a bit nervous.
Ellie, hope you are feeling better.
Hope Manchester meet up ladies are having a ball.

Hi ladies,

Have a fab day at the TC It is today isn't it Ceebee

Ellie sorry you had bad night, I hope yu are feeling better and having a relaxing day.

Welcome Winogal.

Daisy, why is my Breastmilk supply dwindling, it feels like Becca is sucking and sucking but not getting anything therefore she gets a right stress on! This is the feeds she currently has morning, 3/4pm, 6.30pm and then through the night but I feel like she is struggling to get much

Sorry for mumbling on! I am very tired tonight as Becca woke last night at 10.30 and for the love of god I could not work out what was wrong, so I shall blame it on teeth

Daisy it will be fine - take his mind off feeling sorry for himself at least - see you in a bit

Just a quickie as I really must go and have a shower before I leave for the TC

Winogal welcome and do stick around My hair is also still falling out - not as much as it was but still more than is probably 'normal' - but with your other symptoms, I would go to the docs aswell. What date was your LO born? Boy or girl?

Choco the Hamster does exactly the same annoyed squeal - although I would describe it as more of a screech and it is SO SO loud!! It is always when he is in a room by himself (i.e. if I have gone to the loo/kitchen to get something etc) - it is driving me up the wall but he is so gorgeous that I forgive him as soon as he smiles at me

Ellie hope Millie is better this morning - your night sounds bad and all you need when you are ill aswell These toddlers definitely know what buttons to press don't they?

oh , how rude of me, hi winogal

Morning everyone

you had such a bad night ellie
Glad your feeling better daisy

Hope you all have a fabby meet up.

choco i was watching the MJ thing too, was quite reassured by the 'normalness' of his DC iykwim and they are obviously very close to his family.

We had a day of whining yesterday, taking no milk and clingyness! DS 4th tooth is just poking through so i put it down to that but when i was walking upstairs with him for bath time he was sick everywhere! Then back to being fine! Obviously he had an upset tummy

Hi to everyone

oh, ellie . Sorry you are feeling so rubbish. It's no fun looking after DC when everyone is poorly.

DS1 is better, but very touchy about everything. You'd think I was trying to murder him when I was combing his hair this morning. He was acting worse than DD, squealing and crying, and then sat whimpering on the sofa for 10 minutes until I snapped and shouted at him.

<wonders whether Manc is a good idea>

Morning,
Glad your better daisy and I hope everyone enjoys the meet up
I had a bad night last night, I put millie down and she was a bit unsettled so went back up to her and she had been a littl e bit sick, picked her up and she was sick again, I put her on change table and she was alot sick, at this point DD1 starts shouting that I dont give her any attention and she is not well either, so I burst into tears then sent dd1 to her room to think about what she said, Millie was still screaming and my ears were all blocked up so I was feeling every scream . Feeling a little better this morning though!
Winogal nice to meet you, there are some lovely ladies on here. My hairdresser said this can happen for up to a year although mine has only just stopped falling out and Millie is 8 months, but as daisy says a trip to the gp wouldnt do any harm .
choc I was trying to watch Michael Jackson too I was crying at the bits I saw. Was very good and respectful I thought.

Yay...I'm coming to Manchester as I feel much much better this morning.

Unfortunately I'm bringing all 3 DC with me!!!! DS1 is better, but not better enough for school, so I'm dosing him up on calpol and bringin him with. If nothing else he can keep the older LOs entertained during lunch!!

See you later TC lot

we take all sorts here

Hey choco....your new FB profile pic is just gorgeous; M is a cutie

Nope, wasn't on AN thread - thanks for warm welcome, LackaDAISYcal, don't feel like such a gate-crasher now!

Hello all

Wow I can't keep up anymore - my comp is still dodgy so I have to use DH's laptop in the evening.

I have just been watching the Michael Jackson memorial service - it was really something special, I don't know of any other musician that could get 1 billion viewers.

M is a combination of wonderful, frustrating, demanding, giggly, fun, cuddly, difficult and absolutely goddamn beautiful! I think he is teething at the moment as he's been really loud and whingey, not crying so much as squealing loudly almost in annoyance.

But we still have no teeth - but as I'm still BF I'm not complaining! We have a little movement by humping the floor with his tummy, but only backwards, which makes it very frustrating when he's trying to reach a toy I've put in front of him.

Well, that was a very me post but really just wanted to say hi to all.

the libido stuff is probably due to BFing....I am the same! (and no doubt one of mother nature's ways of ensuring a healthy age gap!)

Were you on the AN thread? Nice to meet you if not

Thanks LackaDAISYcal. Nope, haven't been to doc yet but was thinking maybe I should. Hadn't thought specifically of thyroid but wondered if it was hormonal, because another symptom I have is still very little sex drive or natural lubrication in the bedroom department! Apols if TMI! Wondered if that might be related to b/feeding but that's probably me clutching at straws!

Hi winogal , have you had your thyroid function tested? I know an underactive thyroid can cause hair loss problems.

Certainly worth a visit to the doc

Hi, hope you don't mind me posting a random question here ... my hair is still falling out lots and I'm now getting noticeably thinner on top - is it still normal for it to be coming out when DS is now almost 8 months? Anything I can take (vitamin supplement or the like) to improve things? I'm getting decidely thin on top now and I didn't have a very good barnett to start with!

Hello, back at home briefly before coming to the UK - well I hope so as minirosa has a temp and I have not started packing just in case. AM hoping its her teeth but there are no bumps . She diddn't want her dinner but she tucked in to melon ( it was cool)and had some milk.
Am catching up I think -
Tegan I think you mean the Venezia buggy I don't think they make them over here any more.
Sorry to hear about the flu and I hope that you are feeling better soon.
Have a great meet up .
Welldone to bum shufflers and rollers. Minirosa will rock on all 4s on our bed and in her cot. She will lurch forward and do a tummy flip when after a toy but she tends to chin butt things and screams so she has padded toys and cushions and supervsion. She loves the beads on a frame - Ikea thing. Right off to check temp - Calpol at the ready ....

I am very very excited....

DH and I have been surveying our possessions, especially ones that might be worth something. DH has some dinky toys, one of which might get £55, and I uncovered a book I bought years ago with the paintings of Jack Vettriano accompanied by Scottish writings. I plugged the isbn into a search thing on a book website, and it is a first edition.....which were on sale for £225 . It gets better though as mine is a signed one, and I saw one on one website for £350 ....so, sell it or keep it????? knowing that it's probably only going to go up in value (I mean he isn't even dead yet ).

10:30 is good for me - See you there!

Daisy hope you feel better soon .

10:30 ish sounds good to me. I can ask DH to drop me and the girls off after taking DS to school.

Dasiy I hope you feel better soon.

I doubt I'll make it tomorrow guys . Still feeling pretty rough and my thraot is horrible with white stuff on my tonsils....doesn't feel like tonsilitis though. There's a lot of it about apparently.

DS was sent home from school earlier as well.

I'll reassess in the morning though, if DS is at school.....what time?

I'm sure I can be there for around 10.30 - 11 if that is any good for anyone.
Meeting in the same place for a little play then lunch is fine by me - boss away ceebs we would never get there if it was left to me .

Yorky sorry you can't make it tomorrow it would have been lovely to see you again!

Pinky I think Vbab is on holiday??? Not 100% sure.

Ellie glad you are feeling a little better today

Daisy how are you doing?

Hello all

yorky it's a shame we won't see you tomorrow. Mimi was sick like that the other day- all over metwice in one day- nice. No serious after effects, though and it only lasted for that one day.

Ceebee please do be bossy no seriously you are veyr good at organising these things.

have not heard from VBAB for a bit,have we? Hope you are ok sweetie, and RUTHO if you are lurkingxx

Meant to say, oBs well done your little boy on his crawling- that's great!

Hope you are feeling a bit better Daisy and Ellie

Have a lovely met up tomorrow, pretty fed up I can't make it tbh as DH was supposed to have all this week off as he's away for the next fortnight

DD threw her tea all back at me yesterday evening, and then did the same with a BF so had a horrible night of her waking about every 1.5hrs for little feeds as I wouldn't give her much. On the plus side she didn't throw up overnight, but I am in bits this morning. Thank goodness DS is at nursery

Yesterday was the best day I have had with DS for ages, he was in a lovely mood and even though it rained all day and naps and getting dressed were in the wrong time to go either of the groups we could bit on a Monday he didn't seem to get bored or high maintenance. He even read me a story!

Morning (rubs eyes)
I am feeling no worse so taking that as a good thing, but tired, those bloody tablets I am sure they have caffine or something in them, they seem to make you a bit hyper , never managed to sleep till about 2??? Anyhoo the good news is i have lost 2lb .
daisy how are you today?? I would phone doc if you are still feeling crap, I think the tablets have helped a bit.
ladybuzz am with you on the organisation thing I never used to be late but not now!

ceebee your day sounds great!

Daisy/Ellie how are you both feeling this morning?

Buzz what time can you get to the T Centre without killing yourself in the morning ? Let us know and we will meet then - shall we meet same place as last time and maybe go into the play area for a bit and then lunch?? What do you think? (I am being bossy again aren't I?)

Just killing 5 minutes before I need to go and wake Sam up and take him to nursery - he is going for lunch today and I am going shopping

Daisy and Ellie sorry you are both feeling poorly, hope it doesn't develop into anything!

Daisy hope you can meet tomorrow if you are better

What time and where are we meeting BTW? I need to be mega organised to get out of the house on time at the moment!

Ceebee don't feel bad I'm not the worlds best nurse either

ellielou sorry you are all feeling poorly, too.

<links hands with ellie and flees>

Pah dd1 & 2 very snotty, grumpy and dd1 has sore throat! If i felt well enough and was allowed out i would run away.

lola, I'm sure you'll look lovely in your dress...be sure to post some pics on FB of the day

feeling bleargh and am going to call the docs tomorrow if I'm no better. DH thinks it's "man" 'flu, but he just doesn't like anyone being more ill than him.

I'm very excited; I have bids on my ebay items!!

Ladies - very funny

Coolkat I am also starting to seriously worry about swine flu - was reading a thread on here yesterday and it sounds so nasty and I am fairly sure it is inevitable that we will get it. I have only had flu once before and it was bad plus I hate the boys being ill (am not a very good 'nurse' )

Daisy sorry you and DH are suffering Hope you are better by Wednesday - won't be the same without you

Ellie hope you get better quickly aswell - how cr*p for you.

Buzz glad you like the car - DH has a big people carrier and it fits so much in - tis great!

All good here - the Hamster is rolling over constantly now which is not a good thing as he gets onto his tummy and often gets stuck and then screeches very loudly until someone goes to rescue him <sigh> But on a plus point, his pincer grip has developed - today he was picking raisins up off his tray with his finger and thumb and putting them in his mouth

Hello all

Thanks for the info, ceebee, I think it got it!

Daisy hope you are feeling better because you really do need to come to meet us! But seriously I do hope you feel better.

Lola I meant to say, I got married when DS was 12 weeks old- and I was seriously busty I think I looked ok, I'm sure you'll look fab.

back laterx

No he is away, and ccolkat you are not being silly.

Oh and Ceebee when you meeting

Ellielou is DH home to help you?

I know its silly but this flu lark worries me...

Hope your ok Daisy. x

Glad you like car Ladybuzz. x

I dunno tbh i thought I would just be told its a cold and dont be silly but no Dr came up an hour later. I have always had a bit of a health anxiety anyway but he said its unlikely but just in case.............. I have asthma too and thats the only reason he gave me the tamiflu

My friend laughed that it might be swine flu.....should I take that seriously?

Hi all,
I sympathise with you daisy am having similar symptoms, I phoned dr as have my sisters wedding on sun, and have been swabbed and given tamiflu just in case also told to stay in for 5 days
jaunitad sounds bliss I would love a night away me and Dh
ladybuzz glad the car is nice.
Will be back later

and once again for those that missed it Ceebee.....is it this Wednesday?

I have flu . I am aching from head to toe (literally...how is it possible to have aching hair??? and toes???) and have the most godawful earache and feeling sick as well as the sore throat today. Had to call DH home from work as I was nodding off on the sofa when a friend was over this afternoon (how rude) and wasn't fit to be in charge of the children. Been back to bed for an hour or so though and feel a bit better.

Anhoo, if I still feel ropey then I doubt I'll make Wednesday

night away sounds blissful juanita and glad your folks coped....are you sure they were still smiling though and not giving you a clenched teeth grin

New house sounds lovely barbs, as does being woken up by W like that...so far I just get rudely awoken by various children howling!

Aw, sorry you can't make it on Wednesday Yorky.

Right, need to relieve DH for a bit; he has been to the docs for more antibiotics and is worried about the effect three lots of ABs in a month is having on his system. We are the house of good cheer this afternoon

barbs, am shocked by what that man did, especially as it was an open-top car. Anyone could have come and abducted the little lad. I so think you did the right thing to say something. What a horrid man.

lolabella, am sure you will look gorgeous on your wedding day. Are you excited about it? Hope you have a fab time.

I have just got back from my first night away from P. DH and I decided a few months ago that it would be nice if we could have a night away before I go back to work, so we stayed in a hotel in Newcastle last night while P was being looked after by my mum and dad. We had such a fab time, it was great! And get this, we were eating dinner at a table opposite Sol Campbell!! Rumour has it he is going to be playing for Newcastle United next season. Mum and Dad survived looking after P, thank goodness. They had do use the hairdryer to get him off to sleep, but he did at least sleep! Mum was up with him for about an hour and a half overnight which actually isn't too bad for him. They are still smiling today anyway and are willing to look after him again so we are researching our next destination!!

Hope everyone else is well.

Oops

Just a quickie as I haven't got much time - Pinky, it is this Wednesday (8th) that we are meeting - is that still ok?

Just a quickie as I haven't got time - Pinky, it is this Wednesday (8th) that we are meeting - is that still ok?

Just a quickie as I haven't got much time - Pinky, it is this Wednesday (8th) that we are meeting - is that still ok?

Lola, hope fittings go o.k. I was 3 mths pg with ds1 on our wedding day. And kept having to have my dress expanded to allow for my enormous bazookas. No complaints from dh, let me tell you - don't worry, it will be fine.

Oops pressed post by accident

Lola i'm sure you will look fab and as twinkling says there is nothing wrong with being a little 'booby' on your wedding day

Daisy hopeyou and DH are better this morning.

Barbs I don't think you were OTT at all - silly man!

Morning everyone.

Hope everyone has had a fab weekend.

J can also move but i'm not sure quite how, he seems to get where he wants but I can never work out exactly how he has done it!

Well I got my new car on Saturday and I have to say I actually love it, its so nice to drive and has bags and bags of space for storage and baby stuff.
I'm going away with my aunty in September and I have no doubt that everything will fit in .

I'm looking forward to giving it a good road test on wednesday! It is THIS wednesday isn't it?

Helloo

Fudge Holiday sounds fab.

Barbs how exciting, to be moving into yuor new home! I don't think you went over the top, I would have waited for him to come out, too, and may well have said something if feeling confident.

Twinks hope the puter is ok!

Dasiy sound slike you and your DH are in the wars.

Much excitment here this weekend as DS got his first Hotwheeels set- they were selling them cheap in Aldi. he has had such a fab school report, and his bday money fron PIL still not spent, that we decided he deserved a treat. He was fit to pop on the shop and has told eveyone he's met this wekend about it!

Oblomov what a clever boy! Mimi is certainly looking keen to be on the move, but still not really there yet, not much rolling either, but loves sitting up.

Yorky what a shame we won't see you next week.

What dau are we meeting- is it wednesday?

Hope everyone has had good weekends.

hello
left handed typing, boy on lap! thanks for not saying i went ott re:man. feel bit silly now. think am over sensitive and can only assume hormones as i could never say boo to a goose. have not yet had period - anyone else still waiting?
watching love actually. felt like a bit of schmaltz
lolabella so exciting! i agree with everyone else - boobs will be fab!
sorry to hear about dh daisy
will is bum shuffling by accident and trying to scale chairs and peoples legs
we move house starting thurs. looking forward to our own space again. first tme we will have lived in ahouse - not a flat. can't wait for christmas - kno where am going to put the tree already!
dh out again tonite. waited up for him last night - 2amish. felt pooped today. will woke me up patting my face and squeeling. couldn't think of a nicer way. apart from a cuppa tea and bacon sarnie maybe
waffling!

to lola, agree completely that bigger boobs won't cause much problem on the day, enjoy!

Barbs, have I missed something - hormones? I think you did the right thing anyway, I try to go out in an evening to put petrol in so I don't leave DC in car to pay, and certainly wouldn't nip into shop without them.

of your holiday fudge, although we've just been invited for a weekend in Devon in September

Hope DH leg not too bad in the morning daisy, don't think I'll be able to meet up next week , DH was supposed to be on leave all week but now only 2 days

Most people would kill for bigger (.)(.)s
teehee!!
I am sure you will look lovely lola.
I was actually disappointed to not be so booby in my dress, I felt they were a little squished.
But my mum made my dress so I didn't fuss, cos that was the more important bit. And I could hardly say, mum I want to look a bit more booby and sexy on my wedding day

So jealous, I want to do my day all over again!
My sis is getting married next year. I will have to enjoy it all again, through hers.

Evening

everyone enjoy the tennis?
Holiday sounds nice fudge, welcome home
barbs, I agree what a silly man!
Daisy, I'm not sure if there is anything except from getting some antibiotics on board quickly that will keep the cellulitis mild. Hope it hasn't spread too much by tomorrow.
Hi Lolabella, I'm sure you look fab in your dress, goodluck with next fitting.

Barbs what a stupid man . I think you did right in saying something, even if he was a bit arsey, it might make him think before doing it again.

Can we join moving baby camp too. O has just on Thurs started commando crawling . On Thurs he could move forward about a foot, today all over the kitchen. Oh dear God!!

3 weeks today till wedding. Slight problem. I had first dress fitting last week however, when i got measured for my dress i was breastfeeding and we had to 'guess' what size i might be as i was intending to stop. I have now finished completely bf for about 4 weeks but (.)(.) still a little bigger than pre-pregnancy and therefore look a bit like busty laroo in wedding dress! I'v been on diet all week and am going for another fitting tomorrow. Fingers crossed it fits a little better.

lol twinkling....I haven't seen poodle man since our last altercation; maybe I've scared him into taking a different route to the paper shop?

I'm glad you like the nappies. DH said the softees are like a skinned teddy bear

I have a horrible sore throat/earache and am really achey around my shoulders and down into my arms

And DH has another nasty bout of cellulitis; around an insect bite on his hip this time. I have drawn round it and we'll see how far it has progressed by the morning.

We are a happy household here this evening!!

Nursey types, is there anything he can do about it/take to ward it off, or is he doomed to recurrent cellulitis after each insect bite from here on in? He is feeling very miserable about it at the minute.

ah, sure daisy after your run in with the poodle man, you are not that nervous anymore?

barbs, I think I would have hung around to make sure the LO was fine as well, but probably wouldn't have said anything to the man as I'm too much of a coward to get involved...but I would have been bursting to say something though!!!!

I would be less worried about anyone taking the baby than another car hitting the parked car though.

Sounds like a "craicing" holiday fudge

My two lovely littler children let us have a lie in until 7.45 this morning....I can almost fogive bumble for being up twice last night.

We are off swimmimg this morning; bumble has only been once before when we went to CP in Feb, so it will be a new experience for him all over again.

Hi all
Very quick message, if it gets sent that is, as broadband is playing up.
Back from Ireland this evening. Had faaaaab time, lots of beaches, sun, thunderstorms, drink, craic (as they say), food (dieting tomorrow), and fun. Really really wanted to stay longer, it went so fast. M was really happy and loved the 2 little dogs at my cousins house where we stayed.
Will tell more tomorrow if you can stand it. Glad I missed the real heat, have only skimmed so probably missed lots of news, but hope everyone is fine xxxx
<nips off to have another chocolate and few biscuits aka Bridget Jones style before serious dieting starts>

barbs definately not if you had walked away you would still be wondering if the little boy was ok so I think you did the right thing.
chocgal Its lovely, white background with pink * purple flowers, got it from ethel austin for £12 so pretty pleased

Evening!
Dh being a sound engineer tonight so am by my own(ish) boy sleep on lap - tea was chocolate for me but wilbur had chicken, a tomato and some broc
So check me out! I had a go at random bloke in the street today. Me and dh were walking to valley gardens when posh chap pulls up along side us in lovely open-top jag. in passenger seat was a beautiful wee boy - prob bout 10 months. So the bloke jumps out walks up the street to a shop and goes in leaving the wee one sitiing there in his carseat. Am like and . Me and dh walk off and I'm and decided to go back and wait for man. Dh is like 'Leave it' (eastenders style) but I couldn't as I couldn't believe someone would be so stupid. Can you believe he left his baby alone in an opentop car and went into a shop where he could not have seen the car or baby???? Anyhoo man comes out of shop and sees me standing there (dh and W safely on other side of the road ) The bloke smiles at me in a 'yeh - isn't he adorable' kind of way but I said 'How could you leave him?? How could you?' Man looked angry and said 'He's my child' Pah. Ijust shook my head (very judgey )

So was IBU? Couldn't help myself. Couldn't leave child there by itself. Hormones? Am extremely sensitive to any news relating to children/ babies these days, easily cry 'bout that stuff.

I'm joining coolkat with life in the fast lane, I'm sat channel hopping between the madonna concert on sky 1 and the Queen concert on VH1! Lol

Pre DS I would just be getting ready to go out at this time on a Saturday night. Wouldn't change it though

well done to all the moving babies, E just slides backwards all over the place.

Oooh what's your frock like ellie?

Can I join the 'moving' babies group? The Hamster can get from one side of the lounge to the other fairly quickly just by rolling over and over - tis his new trick For some reason, he keeps ending up by the television!! Today I caught him playing with a carrier bag that I thought was out of his reach Occasionally he gets stuck on his tummy and then screeches (extremely loudly) until someone rescues him - tis very annoying!!

Just a quick message, my computer hard drive is about to die I don't know what this means but I hope it is not truly fatal, how will I cope! My big bro says it should not be too bad, really hope not. But anyway, I must say a very quick Thank You to daisy!!
Got my nappies the other day, am totally in love with my new wraps!! And those lolipop softees are just so gorgeous, Js bum is so soft a squidgy in them

This afternoon I sat and watched bumble work the living floor by rolling and moving in a circle and then rolling again.....he was lying in front of the TV at one point and managed to switch the DVD player on with his feet

ellie, I tested them for last years M&B awards. I had five of them but sold them to my BF when I was in my cloth despair....I'm really regretting it now as they are fab nappies.

obs Millie is on the move too, she cant quite sit up yet but man she can roll fast and does the bumshuffle on her back well its more like the head shuffle lol.
daisy I saw someone in M&B testing nappies last year and they rated the flexitots the best and it was when they were just bringing them out, I wondered if it was you but cant of been
I think DD1 is playing musical bumps in her bedroom, it sounds like it anyway lol.
I got a lovely maxi dress today it will prob rain tomorrow now

Your not a round ball you muppett, don't forget I have met you!

Bored DH at work, ironing done. Gonna wash up then watch casualty! Living life in the fast lane me!!!

but then again, I am a little round ball on legs at the minute; maybe if I was more svelt they wouldn't hug my figure quite so much?

lol coolkat, no offense taken

they are long and the website says suitable for pregnancy and BFing so I can see where you are coming from! But, the material is lovely and thick and quite figure hugging. Although I wear a 34H bra size, I tried on the 34 and could hardly get it on and my boobs were what I can only describe as spilling out of the top. I'm a 16 though, so ordered the 38 in the biggest cup size and it gives me a lovely shape for a bra top and still manages to hold my wobbly bits in.

Most places that sell them online will be happy to swap or refund if they don't fit

Daisy can I ask you a question about them without seeming rude is the material around the tummy fitted to non pregnancy figures its just I have some similar and I accept they have no where near the support but they are really really baggy everywhere else and seem more maternity than for mothers who have had their babies IYSWIM. Please don't think I am being rude.

<Coolkat prays Daisy understands...>

coolkat, you need to get a couple of THESE. My norks are vast and enormous but are well reined in and comfortable in these tops, which don't look like BFing tops and will be serviceable even after BFing is over. I have been living in them this last week.

bumble has started waking up and being inconsolable about half an hour after he first goes to sleep and then not wanting to settle for another couple of hours.....not sure why or how to deal with it.

I have had a lovely day, DH now gone to work and I am about to relax Iron

Took DD1 nand her friend to see Ice age as we got free tickets and had an amazing time.

Left Becca with MIL and they both seemed to have enjoyed it, I did miss her though

Been trying to be good this week <well up until today > and lost 1lb so feel quite pleased, 2lbs to go and if I could have a boob reduction I would feel much happier, even when I finish BF I bet my boobies stay huge. I hate seeing everyone in little strappy tops and I can't wear them due to needing massice bra straps.
Going shopping on Monday with DH as he needs new trainers for our hols in July, I am dreading it as I would like to have a leisurely look round but men don't get that do they!

Hope your all having good weekends.

I did twin pushchairs for them at the beginning of the year ellie, but not sure what issue it was in.

I'm also doing some other bits for the M and B awards this year, but can't talk specifics!

Just back from Sheffield and the Ice Age showing from that thread yesterday with a nice rucsac full of toys! The DC are made up and DS1 has promised never to complain about me MNing ever again

M is on the move. Put him down, popped to the kitchen, back I came and he had moved from one end of our 20 ft lounge to the other. Now that is fast !! Speedily Gonzalez is doing a reversing shuffle. Highly effective.
I was wondering. If he is so effective going backwards, he might not learn to crawl forwards, for some time, right ?

Hello all

I am really pleased with the result but in the back of my mind i had a twinge of how nice it would be to have another, it is just so unrealistic.

I too have some rompers but O is still going to bed in a sleepsuit and some nights he is still in his sleeping bag too.

Does anyone know the name of the M&P buggy where the handle flips over to make it rear facing, my friend has one for sale for £15 but i wanrted to see the specifics on there website first.

daisy were you in M & B last year doing a trial?

oh, and I think I will give the BG and fuzzibinz a miss as I am coming into some nappies courtesy of m and b

chocgal have just text you

Now that's the kind of birth I want! Lol.

Yep was watching the tennis, poor Murray.

Glad DD is better daisy
Enjoy the cinema coolkat

cloth nappy users, I'm thinking about trying it as we seem to be going through disposables at a rate of naughts and I think they are chaffing DS's skin a bit where his eczema is already sore.
Is there a company that does a trial set? I am a COMPLETE novice as far as this is concerned!!

And not a drop of blood and it took about 2 bloody minutes. Yeah right!!

OMG that birth on corrie was amazing no cord or anything!

Just realised everyone will be watching the tennis.

I've had it on in the background but need to start paying attention now as it's getting veeeery interesting.

DS1 and I are off up early to Sheffield tomorrow morning. I'm wondering whether or not to take DD or if she is too young?

Think they have left us Daisy! Becca ben a delight today but how long will it last. . .

Daisy I got tickets to Ice Age thanks to your link! Don't think will take Becca as would be a nightmare!

are you all off chatting elsewhere?

DD much better this morning and her blisters are statring to go down already. Bumble seems a bit better, but DD had a couple of days of relative wellness between the fever and the spots so we'll see. fingers crossed it was just a combination of the heat and teething with him.

I am such a hopeless case . Now that I have decided to keep on with real nappies and loving pockets, I'm desperate to buy MORE (bumble has been living ion pocket nappies and a tshirt this week and getting lots of comments about it), even though I've ordered some new wraps to go over my shaped terries!!!!

Morning

Well it is cooler here today with rain and grey clouds but being as the garden needs it so much and my ironing pile is through the roof I do not mind!

Pinky Becca to only had nappy on last night and kicked her sheet off. She took ages to settle, infact fell asleep down here on me in the end as I did not want her getting to hot!

As long as thunder stays away I don't care!

I bought some rompers yesterday, J looks lush in them esp the hooded stripy towelling one

Daisy hope your LOs don't suffer for too long.

ceebee no you have every right to pull the childcare card. it is a valid reason and if your manager agreed then that is a good thing.

We spent a lovely afternoon in the park, DS1 and his little friend were runing about like loons and J sat happily in the shade and played.

Have to clean today - grrr, DS1 got some bath crayons for his bday and I have a technicolour bath and the car needs to be emptied as we are getting the new one in the morning

Morning.
M has grown. All of a sudden. Dh and I looked at him this morning and both said 'hasn't he got big all of a sudden'.
Unlike you poor ladies, he hasn't had any trouble sleeping, during this heat. Down quickly and sleeping all night. Actually he did wake up for a feed at 1.30 am last night, but that was the first for a long time.
Hope the rain, thunder and lightning that we had, has lifted the muggy'ness.

Hello

Had a fab time last night, but DD1 was in my bed after I had an hours kip, because Pinky (the original) was thirsty SHe (pinky, the original) then got hiccups.SO at about 3 in the moring I was burping a crochet monkey
I think it was the heat. DD1 went to bed to sleep for the rest of the night, and DH gave me a lie-in this morning.

Daisy HFM- hope it doesn't linger.

Tegan glad you are happy with your 'result'.

Rompers- was going to say, yes I love them. For little girls you can get them with little spaghetti straps- v.cute- Mothercare do very nice ones IIRC.

DS's sports day today- very cute. HE was covered in stickers and even managed to run in the right direction for the race at the end, though he stopped to chat to one of the teachers at the start and would have come last if one of the girls hadn't fallen over! I fear he may have inherited my atheticicsm rather than DH's![ggrin] but he had a fabby time and wathcing their little legs go is soo cute.

Mimi is hot tomight. SHe is wearing just a nappy and a cotton sheet.

I reallly love the double version so I imagine that the single version will be streets better as doubles never usually stack up as well as the single.

Is the single nice and compact when folded?

Is the baby jogger that good? Is it worth selling my buzz to get one? Am so tempted.

I think the baby jogger is always £139.99 in Argos? The red and black one.

It is very good Daisy! Pee'd off I paid £160 2 weeks ago

oooh, coolkat; I sooooooo want the single version as it would be streets ahead of the wee chicco one and I love the hood on it, but.....DH says NO! I'm tempted to order one and tell him I'm testing it; he'd be none the wiser really

Some of you were on about buggies the other day, we got a baby jogger city mini a couple of weeks ago but they are on offer at Kiddicare now £129.99 . . . <Typical>

anyone seen this?

still some tickets left apparently....get your email in ASAP

Daisy for your 2. Ds1 had it when I was pg with the Hamster - he was off colour for a couple of days and had a really sore mouth (couldn't even suck his beloved dummy at bedtime ) but soon recovered.

Tegan glad your AF arrived although I am sure there is a tiny tiny part of you that is a tad disappointed?

Have just started a thread in employment as I think I upset a colleague big time in the meeting today - I used the 'childcare' card in order to work in the local area rather than being moved to an area further away - is that wrong?? I didn't demand it btw, just said I would feel more comfortable being more local to nursery and my manager agreed to change round. I just know my colleague will be moaning to everyone about unfair it is just because I have children and I do feel quite bad about it tbh.

Hi Ladies

Glad you happy with result tegan. X

We are having a hard tme settling at night to and I am sure its the heat. I just left her in a nappy last night, she woke at 3 fed and then back to sleep til 7.30 which was a nightmare as I did not set thte alarm clock as she always wakes at about 6.30 latest!

Had Becca weighed yesterday and she was 17lb 3oz so growing nicely!

Talked to HV about lumpy foods not being liked but that she loves fnger foods and she said that's fine just keep offering finger foods and progress that way rather than not pureeing as much

Boiling here need to do ironing but its toooo hot to do it!

bumble is similarly sunkissed; i think it's just the type of skin he has......obviously he hasn't inherited my "so white I'm blue" scottish complexion.

Obs, hfm is viral so nothing to be done except calpol and grin and bear it!

we are all a bit better for a decent bit of kip though.

ladybuzz millie has quite a tan too and she like J always has sun cream on and a shade, must just be her skin

I* have npow typed 2 posts and lost them both so third time lucky.
tegan glad you got your period
daisy boo to HFM I got it as soon as I got married and I think my nephew has it just now, hope you get more sleep tonight.
Pinky am of your night out hope you are not too tired today.
Glad rutho is ok.
We are just back from the docs again DD1 now has 2 anti histamines, eye drops, nasal spray and bream all for her hayfever, poor girl has been suffering. I also bought that magicool stuff, its quite good for cooling them down.
Oh and I have has a sore leg the past few days, turns out its sciatica, sods law when I am going back to work in a month.
If anyone wants a laugh I had a meeting at work yesterday so thought I would wear black trousers and a short sleeved blouse, so I put on my good trousers that I bought after I had Millie and they were too big so I thought I would try pre perg trousers on and they fitted but the zipper was a bit dodgy but I got it up, but it would not budge so I could get it down (think the teeth went out of sync) so was stuck in the bloody trousers till I came home had to watch and not drink too much and thought I would have to cut them to get them off, but managed with great difficulty and some pain to shimmy them down.

I love romper suits, they just look really cute but great for this weather too. Although Henrys spending most of his time indoors with just a nappy on.

sorry to hear that LackaDAISY, hope they get better soon

oops tegan, missed your post as well <too me centric this nmorning >

i'm glad you got the outcome you wanted!!

I have just been back in bed for an hours nap and can't see out of my one fully functioning weye! You know when you are sooo tired everything is just a blur. Driving me nuts!

DC seem in a better mood as well after a decent nap.

Sorry missed Tegans post. Am glad/sorry for you Tegan. Hope you are o.k. about it.
And Daisy , poor dd and bumble, witht he f&m. Are you o.k. ? - what do you do for f&m, then ?

Ceebee, short romper suits are one of my alltime fave items of clothing too. I had ds1 in loads and am now using them for ds2 aswell. I love them so much. They are so incredibly sweet. I have some up to aged 2 aswell, so well sorted for next summer aswell - can't wait.

Oh Daisy how awful, that can't be nice. There is alot of it going round at the moment up here.
Can they have anything for it?

no joy with the cold water trick here either!

I think DD and bumble have got hand foot and mouth . DD has been a bit off with a temp and not eating and I thought it was the heat. I noticed some blisters on her toes yesterday but thought it was her doodles rubbing as she has been sockless, but there are more this morning and some on her hands and one on her tongue. bumble has been up all night, temperature and not feeding and seems to be following the same pattern as DD. We've had a horrible night, he has been whining and crying and letting out a horrible plaintive whine and just refusing to feed...or sleep. I think I had about three very broken hours. It's a very happy house here this morning....not!!

Yes I tried the water trick last night too and it did not make a jot of a difference

Ceebee I m off today to get J some of those rompers I forgot how cute they were

J doesn't seem to be bothered by the heat too much, he has got a lovely tan too - despite never being allowed direct contact with the sun and spending his life smothered in factor 50 not sure how that has come about but it is very cute.

Glad Rutho is OK.

Noodles are fine with me next week! J can have a good go at a noodle!

Sparkle it thundered here last night and made no difference! its just so hot!

taking the boys to the park today for a picnic with some friends, DS1 is so excited!

Daisy hope things have calmed down in your house today!

Can't stop as I have to go to a meeting at work this morning so need a shower asap.

I tried the iced water trick last night - the Hamster's room was 29 degrees, put the water in....and it stayed at 29 degrees

Glad u got E settled Cricri. Tiny was up at 10pm, did a massive burp when I picked him up then fell back to sleep.. yay! Up at 6am which is not bad at all (but DS1 was up at 3am for toilet trip - sigh was having great sleep as well!!).

I also tried the cold water tip last night and put a large bowl of iced water in his room as it was 24degrees. I checked it again immediately (not expecting it to have changed) and it had gone up to 25degrees!! Guess it didn't work then!! Was still 25 degrees this am.

We are forecasted to get thunder this pm here, think that will be only thing that will really clear the air...!

Hope everyone has good day, glad Rutho is ok.

Morning ladies

Sorry for not being about yesterday but things seem to have gone mental here.

I had loads of committee stuff to do at the playgroup sports day then i looked after my friends 2yr old for the afternoon.

Well the news is i am NOT pg. Came on yesterday (thank god).

Going this morning to take dh's sample to be checked for little swimmers.

Morning ladies

Seems a lot of the babies struggling in this heat, we took a long time settling think it was after 10 when he went into proper sleep but then slept until usual waking time of 5.30. Feel a bit better for no overnight waking.

Hanaflower & merrymarrigold are around on fb.

Hope you're not too tired after your late night pinky.

Hi to everyone

The night wasn't as bad as I feared - she "only" woke twice and is still asleep now
Daisy Hope yours stayed asleep for you and give you a lie-in as well.
Good to hear Rutho is well, I miss her hilarious posts. I was thinking of Merry the other day and also we haven't heard from Hana in a while. Hope they're all OK.
Spoke too soon - E is awake and ready to start the day!

oops must clarify, we have been out for a friend's birthday- I'm not just sat up on my own!

Heloo
me up late again. I'm a bit squiffy.

Daisy I had this last week.My older two were up til around 9:30. THis week they are both going to sleep for 7:50- big improvement. Friend havong same issue with her two, so I can only think it's the weather or something, but very frustrating.

cricri et al, hope you are having good sleeps.x

meant to add I had a wee text from rutho today from sunny St ives with a photo of a cafe with bumble's (and her F's) name above the door!! I've told her we were all asking aftger her and about the trafford centre next week as I'm sure she is back by then.

where is merrymarigold these days? I get confused with everyone on FB and here....because I play scrabble or get comments on FB, I forget that they aren't posting here!

<wipes sweaty brow>
finally got all the DC in bed and asleep by 10pm

I hope it's just the weather and not the shape of things to come.

I have filled the bath with cold water; opened the bathroom window and all the bedroom doors and have the fan on blowing the (hopefully) water cooled air into the bedrooms. We'll see.

My bra had a tide mark on it when I took it off this evening <boak>

DH called at 9.15. He had just checked into his hotel in Amsterdam and was off out for dinner

Daisy Must be the night for it - I spent a good 45 minutes re-settling E an hour ago even though she went off very easily at 6.30. I also think it's the heat and teething in her case. Hope they both settle soon for you. Make mine a glass of Prosecco please Sparkle
I do admire those of you with more than one DC - one is enough for me atm!
Oh dear, E is stirring again - could be another long night Hope everybody else has a better night.

Daisy I do know how you feel tho, we had a major tantrum fit over dinner.. cue me losing it.. both of them ending up crying as DS1 set off DS2.

Feels never ending and am on my own too. But have decided the kitchen can wait I need a seat and a cold drink. I also had to bring the baby back down with me yesterday eve as he wouldn't settle. Am just resigned to it now, he is still a young baby and my life is essentially on hold a bit when he is unsettled. Fecking exhausting tho. Def was soo much easier with one DC.

<<passes out a cold Bulmers/Peroni/Prosecco/E&J to anyone who wants one>>

Phew..

Oh you are right they are adorable!!

LOL at the summer pjama thing, DS1 still insists on full pjs AND socks!!??!! I have tried to explain to him that socks are a winter thing only but nonono he not interested, it is socks on every night. I know kids are supposed to become insistent on their 'routines' but fgs it is roasting!!

Very well done Ceebs on your lb shifting success!! Has spurred me on to keep working out!!

bloody children. they are all still awake. probably a combination of heat, teething and the fact that dad is away overnight. I have threatened DD with a smacked bottom I am that wound up by the three of them. bumble has been crying since 7 o'clock and inspite of three BFs and calpol just does not want to settle. I have had to bring him downstairs as DD was keeping him awake.

why does this always happen when i'm on my own

the kitchen is a mess from tea and there are toys strewn everywhere.

I have now have two of them downstairs with me.

bloody sick of this.

Sparks these are what I mean - they are footless babygros but really really short ones.

Ok one vote for noodles next week - I'm happy with that

pinky you are definitely not chubby I would say you are definitely no bigger than me and I have had to shift 35lbs to get here

LOl Ceebee I have managed to negotiate with DS to wear a vest and a pair of boxers as jamas. He was insisting on wearing his brushed cotton car pjs the other night! He's is sleeping under his cot coverlet! bless.

Mimi slept really well last night. I didn't feed her at 4 when she woke up as she was just playing and she went back to sleep until 7:30. She was just in her nightie with a sheet, but she threw that off and had her nightie pulled above her chubby little knees. SHe looked veyr chilled!

Trafford Centre
I think it was Tampopo I saw when I last went. I really fancy noodles. But really I don't mind what we have.
play centre has a little bit with toys in and two small ball pools.mimi quite likes it, but then she's been round the whole thing in the sling!

Sparkle*/*LB you are too kind, but I really am chubby! Hairdresser was an emo beanpole. I think he was having a bad day. It was one of the two occaisions I have left hairdressers in tears! Was quite a while ago.

dAISY That psychic thing was spooky.

little rompers- I think they are fab and put them in toddlers, so I think he would look fab in them, LB

Mimi has been wearing little smock tops and a nappy. SHe looksveyr cute!

Right off to reception clas open evening. Can't believe my litttle boy is so grown up already!

YES!!! so pleased he won go Andy!

Pinkglow I know exactly how the no air conditioning thing feels - my office didn't have any! Was a nightmare in summer.

Tiny also does the blowing raspberries thing mid meals!

I am a NEXT addict, just ordered a dress for my cousin's wedding (bet it ends up in the sale tho!).

I also got a footless romper from Tk Maxx (is that the kind of thing you are referring to Ceebs?). Tiny looks very cute in it and it has the caption "Granny Magnet" on the front! Thought DH mum would appreciate! - my mum just vaguely smiled (as expected) sigh..

Phew it is soooo hot!!!

How very accommodating of Andy Murray to finish the game just in time for me to go and pick DS1 up from nursery

Buzz do go and get some short romper suits, they really do look so so cute and they are so not too old for them Ds1 had some when he was newborn and by the next summer when he was nearly 1, I decided he was too old so am making the most of putting the Hamster in them - I think they might be my fave item of child's clothing

Lol at DS1 not being the only one who insists on being covered from head to foot in these temps - sometimes DS1's hair is literally dripping with sweat when I go and check on him Might try the iced water trick tonight.

Wonder if the thunder is heading south

and bumble is blowing rapsberries and firing his dummy across the floor, then grabbing it and doing it all again

ceebee, DD insists on her blankie (a knitted pram blanket that my mum knitted for DS1), one of Pinky's blankets and a duvet at the minute, and then we need to have her in a bodysuit and leggings as she scratches her eczema otherwise! she must be melting.

oh my god it is thundering. I hate thunder. I'm off to hide under the bed.

ceebee DS1 is the same he always asks for his covers in and insists on having his full jamas on. had a full blown tantrum last night cause he was just in his pants and vest as none of his short jamas were clean. Must be the age.

I love those short romper suits, I have ummed and ahhed about whether Jay is too big for them but they are so cute and he has been in a vest for days now. Might just bite the bullet and buy some. They are so cute.

Daisy sorry they couldn't do your mole, they need a specialist to make sure all the its are out when they do remove it, my Dad had one taken off a couple of years ago.

pinky you do not have a fat face, you are stunning!

Pinkglow J oes the raspberry thing too so annoying.

Just a quickie as watching the tennis (of course!) Oh to have a laptop

Daisy Next sale will be in the next couple of weeks I think - it is usually mid-July (not that I am a regular or anything ) I am trying to decide whether to try and get a couple of work suits in it in a size 14 (which is the size I am hoping to be when I go back to work ) as it will cost me a fortune to buy a whole new work wardrobe in September - Dh obviously has no confidence in my weight loss abilities as he thinks it might be too risky Sorry about the mole - how annoying for you

Pinkglow crap about the air-conditioning - they always break on the hottest days don't they? Prolly something to do with them having to work harder those days.

Might try the Hamster in just his nappy tonight. Am having great difficulty in persuading DS1 to just wear his pj shorts in bed atm as he is obsessed with being 'properly' dressed - so am more concerned about him overheating as he is also obsessed with having his duvet on him!!

Right - back to tennis

I'm glad the hamster got on well yesterday ceebee

I need to get some short rompers but am not buying anything else until the sales start...any ideas when the Next sale is on?

bumble slept in a vest last night, but he also likes his sleeping bag so maybe we'll do that and just a nappy tonight.

He is so miserable today. DH said that he heard something on the radio about putting a bowl of iced water in bedrooms in this weather which reduces the air temp as it evaporates. I'm going to try it tonight as our thermometer is reading 34 degrees in the garden <swoons>

I didn't get my mole removed . When the GP looked at it, he ummed and ahhed and said it looks like it might be another rodent ulcer and as that's a type of skin cancer they can't take them off so I need to be referred. Apparently this has only come in in the last month so the GP who booked me in for the minor op back in April wouldn't have known about it. Ah well, looks like I'll be getting my money's worth from DH's work medical insurance.

air conditioning broke at work - what bad luck is that!!

ChocO - hes just taking it easy in the heat, I know I wouldnt be rolling around in this

Henrys latest thing is blowing rasperees while theres food in his mouth so who evers feeding him gets covered.

Glad hamster got on ok at nursery, I think its quite a good age for them to start. My friend tried to get her 18 month old to go but she wasnt having any of it so shes taken her out and will try again in 6 months.

at ladybuzz and your little one taking their nappy off.

Hi all!

Wow Tegan you are being very calm about this! Hope all is ok when you do a test...

Hope M is ok with the hernia too ChocO I did smile at your indian blood comment!

I also use disposables at night (or 'cheating' as DH cousin calls it !!!)

Have to take you up on this fat face nonsence tho Pinky!! I remember seeing the picture of you post birth with Mimi and being soooo !! You are such a beautiful woman!! If I looked half as good as that after giving birth I would be very happy!! Let alone any other time. Would like to see what the hairdresser looked like tbh.

Apologies Ceebee I did mean to ask how hamster got on at nursery . I am so disorganised it is not true. Glad all went well tho, it makes a big difference if you know they settled. I am actually a bit sad that Tinytoes will not go to nursery (unless I get a new job of course). I honestly think it has been so good for DS1. I do wonder if they will even do as well at home with me

I got a shiver reading about your psychic moment there Daisy!!

Waves to all...

I think Yorky might join us next week, so that's another highchair needed there.

I'm definately coming. I can bring my portable booster seat for DD so one less highchair needed for me

I have two miserable poorly children this morning, and I'm tired as have been up half the night with my wee man.

I've also just had an odd psychic moment with DD. She was in the kitchen and let out a yell. My mouth flooded with saliva and tasted like blood and when I went through she had dug a coke tin out of the recycling bin and had cut the inside of her lip on it; blood everywhere! Very weird indeed!!

Morning all

Tegan at your willpower - I would need to know immediately

Pinky no Wagamamas (or not on the website either and don't remember seeing it). I think we may need to ring ahead - just so they can get all the high chairs ready - so if me, you, Daisy and Buzz are coming (Anyone else??), that would be 6 highchairs yes? Ladies - any thoughts on where we would like to eat? Italian, American Diner-style, Nandos, spanish...any thoughts?

Also, are we going to go to the play area for a bit - I am sure the babies would enjoy it this time round aswell (Pinky - is there a baby area?)

Gosh it is so hot today - I was so embarrassed when I dropped DS1 off at nursery as I was sweating like a pig after walking there with the Hamster strapped to me and I was that bad, the member of staff actually offered me some tissues

The Hamster was fine yesterday at nursery. Didn't cry once although it was only an hour. Next Tuesday he is going for 3 hours (including lunch!)

The Hamster is spending all day in short romper suits (they are so cute!) and then I just change it to another short romper suit for bedtime Although he does like his grobag so I may just put him in a vest in his grobag tonight if it doesn't cool down.

Choc hope it rights itself.

Pinky i'm defintely coming - really looking forward to it!

Hi Pinkglow good to see you glad the move went well.

its too hot and humid here, no sun just heat, J has been in a vest for days now, he sleeps in just a vest - can't leave him in only a nappy as he takes them off
His room is so hot we have a fan on constantly!

ChocO, M had a hernia. You are right, all medical people seem to dismiss it as unimportant. Hv, GP, and Paed doctor we saw, all said 'not to worry' and it did indeed go away.

Sorry ladies, went a bit AWOL again but I have been lurking. No time for a long post tonight as I really must get to bed. E has taken to waking up somewhere between 5am and 5.30am and babbling away for half an hour or so before going back to sleep until 7am or so Unfortunately I don't find it quite as easy to get back to sleep as she does but I refuse to start my day quite so early!
Happy birthday Juanitad and hope you had a lovely lunch at Betty's!
No crawling here - I think she's going to be a bum shuffler as she shuffled half way across the lounge this afternoon. She's dribbling like anything and shouting a lot too so perhaps there are some more teeth on the way.
Choc I'm impressed at your LO drinking out of his Doidy on his own! E tries to but hasn't quite got the coordination yet and most of the water goes down her front. Plus she seems to prefer blowing bubbles in the water Hope you get some reassurance re the hernia.
Hi to everyone else!

Cannot believe your qwill power, tegan.

Daisy you look really good on your FB pics, also you have slim face, I have a FAT FACE -as a lovely hairdresser once pointed out to me

Plus are we still meeting up at Trafford Centre next wed. Sorry to go on, and Ceebee am I right in thinking they have a Wagamamas there now?

Choco I know nothing about hernias, but hope your little man is ok.x

ChocO, my nephew had an umbilical hernia that righted itself. I think it's only a problem if it doesn't right itself by the time they are two.

Sorry choco reread your post and noticed about the hernia question, the only thing I know is how they repair them, spent from many a time sitting watching it!!

and Pinky, I have three stone to lose!

ChocO, I too use dispos at night, but when I was doing some testing last year, the Totsbots flexitot was fantastic overnight. According to their literature it can actually hold half as much again as a disposable. I used it with their wraps and it was pretty bombproof.

I used Bumhuggers overnight when DD was little to great effect as well, and never needed to boost. Tried a tots rainbow fleece wrap overnight but it was too thin. their red wrap is meant to be fab though.

Hello
Hi Pinkglow*

*Choc I tend to put mine in a disposable at night, but a few timesa week I use a bumhugger with a prefold stuffed in it under a tots red wrap and that works fab. But I use nighties rather than sleep suits on babies, don't know if that would make a difference re-wicking etc.

OMG I have to lose at least 2 stone. I am soo fat <sobs into large glass of red wine>>

Who is def coming to Trafford Centre and can Rutho come. I hope she is ok. Will we need to ring ahead if we are having lunch with so many babies??

Dh was meant to take his first sample to the hospital last week but he wasn't well so we are taking it this thursday. If the results don't take long i could just wait and see what they are first,

Anyway. I have just completed dh's best mans speech, i just hope he likes it.

tegan I used to work in day surgery and think the man had to wait 2 months or so then hand in 3 samples a month apart.

tegan oh I would have to know now haha but thats just me!
pinkglow glad you are getting on well and the housemove is all done!
daisy I have one of those easifit nappies its quite good and I was going to buy more but decided to get the tots pockets and they are awful I tried to sell them but think most people have the same opinion.
choc dont know if you read my post from earlier but the flexitot and the BG booster worked well with a wrap on the top!

Hi all

Tegan sounds exciting, I cannot believe you are waiting - you must have nerves of steel!! I hope you get the result you want when you do test.

Pinkglow congrats on the house move - we are in a sauna at home and M's room is 29 degrees but he seems to love his grobag so he's gone to bed in a nappy + 1 tog grobag. Luckily he hasn't seemed too bothered by the heat yet - finally my blond haired, blue eyed boy is proving he has some indian blood!!

daisy I am using disposables at night as I am too scared to go 12 hours with a reusable. If I am brave enough whats the best combo you've tried? DS has v skinny legs and waist.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JUANITAD!!

Does anyone know anything about hernias? I think M might have one as he has a blue bulge next to his belly button - the HV said I should go to the docs but didn't seem overly concerned.

We have no teeth, no rolling over, no crawling but he can drink out of a Doidy cup on his own .

Tegan, are you making excuses ?
Once I think I could be/ make the decision, that I want to know, The whole world stops and nothing else in the WORLD would matter other than that result.
Just goes to show how different we all are !!

Sorry ladies but i am not testing until after the weekend. I have way too much going on at the mo to even think about being or not being pg. I have a wedding to go to in 2 weeks (dh is best man) and i have to write his speech for him (he is useless) and dd's are hectic with things going on at school, plus all my, playgroup and school committee business oh and of course life in general.

Don't stress any news you will all be the first to know

Hi Pinkglow, good to see you again

The heat is horrible isn't it? I love hot weather, but only if I can lounge around in it all day; definately not when I am having to do the shopping/hoovering/running after children!!

Ok im back now - have finally moved house and am back at work (part time)!! I was without the internet for ages unfortunately so havent even been able to keep up.

The move didnt seem to phase Henry at all but boy is it hard to keep a baby cool in this weather. At the moment hes sleeping at night in just a nappy with the windows open. Hes doing the rocking backwards and forwards on all fours so only a matter of time.

I will try to catch up - anyone going on holiday over the summer? Go on make me jealous

Hope Tegan is o.k. and has surely done a test by now. Hoping.
My periods are all over the place too. I had my first whilst on holiday a few weeks ago. And haven't had one since. which is very odd because I am a '28 day, never miss a beat girl'. And I am def not pg so this is very odd.

no Time just wanted to wish Juanitad a Happy Birthday!!!!

Tegn don't panic/get too excited, cycle gets very mixed up, doesn't it.

back later/]xxx

It's a tots bots one....bamboo easyfit i think, very neat and no leaky legs, but given the size of bumble's thighs there isn't a nppy out there that will gape at the legs

tegan, just saw DH's sample pots etc on the desk in the office. He had his op at the end of Feb and the first sample is due in end of June (so four months) with the next one a month later.

Happy Birthday juanitad
Well Done Alyssa 2 teeth!!
daisy whats your new nappy M had her first night without sposies last night cos I ran out, I used to use them when she was still dreem feeding but thought be safer with sposies when she was going all night!! Well we ran out last night so stuck a flexitot and the bumgenius booster on her and it was great!
Tegan have you tested yet???
Hope Bumble gets some sleep soon.
ceebee I was up watching tennis to last night it was very exciting! Caught a glimpse of Ewan Macgregor too.
Chocgal we are fine just readjusting to DH being away again but typically last night was showering DD1 when I looked at her eye and the white of her eye was all swollen up like a blister, she has hayfever but I had given her all I could so was a trip to A&E with both of them in their jammies, so we got home and I thought all I had to do was put them in bed but millie had pooed like everywhere so I cleaned her up and put her in her cot while I got a new nappy so when I got back upstairs she had only peed all over her bloody bed!! What a night.

bumble has been up since half four and is refusing to go to sleep.....how is this possible!!

ouch tegan!

go and get a test and put your mind at rest! tbh, I'm not sure how long it takes. DH hasn't sent in his sample for testing yet but I'm sure it's about three months, but it's all down to how...erm...active you are!!! By our rate it'll be next year before we are cleared for take-off

Not seen Phee for a bit since she made her announcement. I hope everything is OK!

Happy Birthday jaunita, sounds like a lovely day. Lol at your DH after a day on his own with P though

ikwym about missing the "firsts", but by the time they are 6 and you are missing the first time they have split another child's head open you are just glad you weren't around to witness it . DS1's nursery had a policy of not mentioning any firsts so you could find them out for yourself, unless you had asked them to tell you.

I'm impressed with the decorating in this heat Pinky. Once we got all our clutter sold off I'm going to redo the kitchen then the livingroom and hallway...and I'll have to do it one wall at a time as well as nowhere to store stuff whilst we do the work.

Had a lovely cup of tea and some nappy chat with Yorky yesterday whilst bumble tried to show Yorky's DD how to bumshuffle and she sat and variously grinned at him or poked him! Her DS was really cute and followed my DH round the kitchen sweeping up with a toy brush. I was showing off one of bumble's new nappies that came yesterday for me to test and explaining how good it was as he had been in it for a few hours and it was still fine, and I stuck my fingers in the back of it...and into the biggest stickiest poo I've seen in a ling time.....eeeeeeew.

easy day today; housework this am then stay and play this afternoon.

Juanitad HAPPY BIRTHDAY - hope you have a fantastic day Lunch at Bettys sounds divine and if your dad is paying, all the better And yes it is hard realising you aren't going to see your Lo's doing stuff first - DS1 took his first steps at nursery

Vbab well done to A for the teeth Give Rutho my love and hopefully she will be back on here soon. And go Fin

Morning all! Hope everyone is well and enjoying the fine weather. A nice start to the day here - only one get up in the night at 4.30, then a lie-in until 7.45 (can't believe that is what I consider a lie-in these days), so thanks P for that! Is my birthday today, 32 years old.....where has my life gone, does't feel like 5 minutes since I was leaving home at 18, all excited and terrified at the same time! My exciting birthday day out is a trip to Harrogate with my dad, and we are going to have lunch in Betty's, he's paying yippee!!

I went into work yesterday for a keeping in touch day. DH was looking after P and when I got home I have never in all my life seen a man so exhausted!! The house was a tip and he could barely speak he was so tired! Glad he has an idea now of what the reality of a full day with a baby is! And typical, in my absence P learned to crawl! Sort of anyway, he can drag himself from one side of the bed to the other, but he can't crawl on the floor yet, it's not as comfy for him I guess. I suppose I'd better get used to the fact that I won't be the one seeing the first everything when I go back to work, I might only be the second to see things. Oh well, not much I can do about that I guess.

vbab, how is Rutho doing? Hope she is ok, she's not been on here for ages.

Hi ladies. Will try to catch up yesterdays and tonights posts later. Just wanted to say with have TEETH!!! Yesterday Alyssa smiled at me and I saw 2 teeth (bottom front) once she moved her tongue out of the way. Bless finally at 7m she has got teeth but got 2 at once. Brave girl and has hardly been upset at all or had sleepless nights. The complete opposite to DS. Alyssa is also doing this funny thing at the mo where she puts her head from one side to the other when you talk to her. Hee hee. Got HV coming this AM for 7-9m review. Texted ruth yesterday to tell her tooth news and she said Fin crawled yesterday . Go Fin! Laters ...

vbab glad you talked with DH. Have a fab holiday.

Rosa you too enjoy your hols, the humidity sounds awful.

Coolkat we have the same problem, J is sleeping in only a vest as his room is 29 degrees. We have tried everything to cool it down!
Hope your eye improves soon.

obs caravan sounds lovely, nice to have somewhere to get away to.

pinky one wall at a time sounds like my kind of painting .

ceebee lol at the milkshake - hope today goes well.

Tegan you should maybe test to put your mind at rest!

I am so so glad we are getting our new car on Sat, yesterday we got a nail in the brand new tyre and someone has scraped right down the pasenger side I'd be really annoyed if it wasn't going! people have no consideration.

Sorry If I have missed anyone <waves to everyone else>

Morning

Tegan ooh am excited and scared for you - go and get a test Once you have the snip, I don't think you are 'safe' until they have a sperm test a few months later (not sure how long after that is - Daisy will know)

Am knackered today after staying up to watch the tennis - then it took ages for me to get to sleep as my head was buzzing!! Twas fab though Love the fact they could play until 10.45 at night!!!

That is what i am thinking as this would be only the 3rd since having O in nov. Sadly i had a twinge of excitement even though i don't want anymore that is why dh had the snip

Hi ladies,
tegan dont panic just go and get a test and stay calm! My periods have been all to pot since dd2.

Ok slightly panicing

I have just used the due date predictor and it says i would of conceived on june 18th, so i checked my diary and it was a night dh was home from work, coincidence, i hope, please please i can't be pg

Morning

We tto have no teeth, but O can sit now even though he has the odd wobble and falls over.

It's raining at the mo but it did that yesterday morning then we had a scorcher of a day.

DD1 has a severe throat infection so i don't think she will be at school this week, which is nice for me to have some time with her.

I have just realised i was due on on the weekend and it hasn't happened yet. Slightly worried as dh had the snip in april so we thought we would be same, naive i know.

I am just doing one wall at a time. Now I have lagre glass of wine and stilton on toast.

Tennis, humph. I was doing quite well managed to watch a bit today but had to turn over for big cook little cook .

Ok just some laundry to fold <where does it end??>

coolkat does that mean your eye still has infection, oris it just recovering?

<waves to choc and ceebee>

Ah Ceebee enjoy popping into work. Like the idea of being able to spy lol!

Pinky decorating in this heat? wow. Upstairs is like an oven despite all windows open curtains shut. Becca struggling I think due to the heat.

Me and DH been really bad had take away pizza for tea as we went to watch dd1 being invested and then they made bread twists over the fires.

Bah DH just called out again that's 5 times today

Oh my face all better but my vision seems all blurred in the infected eye.

Vbab glad you and DH talked. X

Chocgal I know - I have been out for tea with some friends and got back in when he was 4-0 down in the first set and was - but am breathing again now

Pinky aw, don't go and decorate - stay and watch the tennis

Xposts!
Waves to pinky

Aww that is lovely ceebee, I think if you treasure the time now when you have it you can then leave them with childminder/nursery knowing you have made the most of that time. IYKWIM.

Now, am glad to see Murray getting himself together!

Helloo

Have a fab Holiday, `Rosa, but the humididty may do for me, it's been bad enough here in Manc.

Teeth well Mimi has 2 teeth, has had them for a while now. I found there was no hard and fast rule as regards teething. Both of my other two found some teeth worse than others. DS was really bad with his eye teeth and DD1 was very poorly with her molars, whilst others just popped through unannounced.

Twinks you do sound a bit down at the moment, generally.x

Vbab at least you talked about it, and have both come away seeing both sides. I would call that a positive.

ceebee lol at the banana milkshake. Hope hamster likes nursery.

8Obs* that holiday sounds like a bargain! Lol you will have mnetters turning up in droves!

I really should be doing some decorating but I haVE No mOTIVATION- other than the general state of the house- which is terrible

love to all, best get my roller out before I settle too much.xx

Chocgal you wouldn't believe I have been through this before would you?? Of course you get used to it and I don't think twice about DS1 going to nursery now I keep saying to DH 'but the Hamster is my baby...'

Hi
I'm watching the tennis too

Happy holidays rosa
How you doing ellielou? I guess the first night of your DH being away is the worst.

Well after 5 glorious sleepthroughs we were up 3 times last night! Grrr, thought we'd cracked it too. Lol!

ceebee I am back at work in a month and know what you mean about it being the beginning of the end. I have enjoyed watching DS change and develop so much these past 7 months I can't imagine not being with him everyday. I guess you get over that though.

Hi to everyone, hope you have a better night tonight twinkling

Evening all - sat here watching the tennis

No teeth here either - DS1 didn't get his first until he was 9 months old and they they all came one after another very quickly and he had a full set by 2. He used to get a bad nappy rash each time but never seemed in pain or anything - can I be that lucky twice??

Obs £250 sounds a great price <Ceebee wanders off to check out exactly how far away Blanford is >

rosa have a good holiday. 98% humidity - wow

Buzz lol, the banana milkshake was after I had forgotten to feed him as me and DH were too busy playing badminton It was only about 45 mins after he had woken up (and due a feed) and been grizzling which then turned to screaming that I eventually remembered. Think the milkshake was my way of apologising to him

Well, Sam is going for his first nursery settling-in session tomorrow He is only going for an hour and I have to go to the office to fill in forms in that time so am not actually leaving the premises - plus they have CCTV so I can check he is ok (plus spy on DS1 ) but am still Have really enjoyed this mat leave and although I still have another 2 months to go, I guess this is the beginning of the end

Anyway, that is enough in one post

Teeth - none here either but we have had the gnawing of gums for ages.
Vbab glad that things were clarified and hope that next time you go out it will be more enjoyable.
We are off again in the morning up to the mountains it is 98% humidity here right now thankfully it is not mega hot as we have had rain in the evenings.dds are a bit sweaty though. House looks like a bomb gone off in a laundry.
Good luck to those flying solo I always find I need 2 days just to kick into a routine - dd1 does miss her dad though .
Said goodbye to all the nursery staff this morning I did feel a bit sad but at least I know minirosa will be going there!Right back to the packing ....

twinkling that you are feeling a bit off with your family at the minute. I hope things get better and they cans ee fit to let you bring up J how you want to without the comments etc.

Folks definately less bothered by subsequent children than your PFB. I was completely underwhelmed with cards and pressies for bumble

his tooth came through with a bit of nighttime grizzliness and shouting and a little bit of drool; nothing more excessive than that. With DS1 I felt every siongle tooth personally as I would get sympathy earache with him and he would droll and dribble, red cheeks and temp for days before each one...and the nappies were hideous. DD used to get nasty nappy rash/eczema and a bit of red cheek but nothing like DS1....either they are all very different children hence the getting better, or by No 3 I just don't have the time to notice?

right Dd just awake (she was up half the night and went back to bed the poor lamb) and shouting for lunch!

laters xx

you Twinks not your Twinks!!

Morning all!

Wow that is a good price for a fortnight Obs!!

Enjoy your new car Buzz.. we are thinking of a new one too time will tell tho..

Haha yes I know 6 teeth is a lot! He has nipped me a few times but I seem to have gotten over my fear of it all this time! DS1 got teeth early too suppose it gets it out the way quicker (but does nothing for sleep!).

I can imagine that being so overwhelmed must be frustrating for your Twinks.. However I am the opposite - disinctly underwhelmed by support! Even visitors.. No one seems bothered this time around (not that they were that bothered the first time). What can you do tho? If they don't care, they don't care.

However totally understand that the other way around must be just as unpleasant for you, stifling. Ah well we all have each other on here..

J has 0 teeth here either, though I thought I saw that one was nearing but a wee way of yet.
He hates! being on his tummy though, so V litle chance of any crawling here.

6 teeth sparkle OMGoodness!!
tues to fri will fly by, I am sure.

I am feeling a little overwhelmed by my family at the mo and if DH gets this job south I will almost welcome the chance to remove myself from their claustraphobic bosom.
I am pretty soft when it comes to them and most time roll over and let them make decisions/tell me what to do etc
I think to regain my independance would be good for me.
Only downside is that this is a wonderful, safe, friendly place to bring up children. And DD already has good friends that it would be fantastic to see her grow up with.

My mum has been my saviour over the last few years with DD pregnancy, DD babydom, and then DS pregnancy. But she is just not as attached to DS as she was DD and/or as respectful to me re the way I am dealing with him.
Then my wee sis has come home too and my mum is just getting worse and worse for moly coddling her.
I could just do with removing myself from the involvement in it.
I can't say or change anything so it is frustrating and draining having to smile and hold my tongue constantly.

Morning

Well done Bumble on the tooth Did it come through with any problems? I'm dreading teething as O is 8 months tomorrow and no sign at all of any teeth yet?

Obs O also got on all fours yesterday all by himself and this morning too and has stated rocking. Fear he may be moving around when we go on holiday in 4 weeks. Fun time will be had chasing him around pool i fear

Well done Alyssa on standing in bath

Off to have a wedding dress fitting today. Not seen my dress in ages so hope i still like it

Thank you ladies for all your support over the s**t mix up with DH. lacks dont worry about DH reading your post. I'm sure he understands everyone was supporting me and he would probably have agreed if what i thought was happening was actually correct. A tooth wow! Well done bumble. No sign of my gummy bear getting one yet. DS had 3 or more by now.

Feeling better this morning thanks and I suppose with all mine and DH issues like my lack of interest in sex, just being a childminder/cleaner/cook not a wife or loving partner, body issues (both of us) and my moods at least DH will have realised that I do still actually care and get jealous. Weird how something so potentially bad can make you realise what is still important which can be forgotten on a daily basis.

Whilst doing this post Alyssa sneezed in her walker. Queue massive candlesticks from both nostrils to her mouth and on the front of the walker. Then whilst me trying to wipe her nose her licking. Err.

My babies had another splashing fight in the bath last night. Very funny and lovely to see. Alyssa can hold her own trust me. Such a natural water babe. At one point she stood herself up !

Now off to do the seemingly endless baskets of ironing and start getting organised for the hols on Saturday. YIPPEE!

No teeth here either - no sign of them at all!

obs caravan sounds great fun.

Vbab glad you sorted things out, hope you are feeling better this morning.

I get my new car on Saturday so will be road testing it when we go to the Trafford Centre - yay. Obs I love driving too!
Rosa no plans for no 3 just yet! Thinking long term with that one

Ceebee don't worry I forgot to feed J yesterday - ooops. he was asleep until 3 and then we rushed out to get DS1s party sorted and I completely forgot J's bottle. Bad bad mummy. He didn't seem bothered though!

Morning.
No teeth here.
Up on all fours trying to crawl, rocking backwards and forwards, but not going anywhere.
Caravan in Blanford available for anyone who wants it. Daisy, come on over ! The cost, plot, electric and gas is - everything included -£250 for a fortnight in high season. I would expect anyone who wanted to use it to cover those costs.

Haey all, have had busy weekend so trying to catch up.. should be in bed now but Tinytoes has been up since 11pm GRRR!!! He has 6 visible teeth now and 2 are well through so thinking must be this cough he has developed..

Anyway enough about me, been reading thru posts

Hope Vbab all ok now...

LOL at Ceebs the bad mother, I do things like that all the time with this one! So I'll join that club!

Hope Mimi on the mend now Pinky.

I can join the absent fathers club too albeit for not as long as Ellielou.. My DH off to London til Fri on Tue. Esp with Tiny back to non-sleeping tonight am seriously hoping this doesn't last all week.. Aaargh he's wailing now laters...

Have I missed everyone?

vbab, I'm glad you and DH have talked and that he has been able to explain what was happening. I'm also hoping I never meet him now he has read my earlier post

Obs, that's fantastic about the caravan!! Is it already parked up on a site? Do you have extra site fees and stuff to pay, or is that it? And are you going to hire it out to friends? . I love caravans; we always had a caravan holiday when I was little, and I would love a tourer, but DH is very against it. He is quite wide built and feels all squashed and squeezed and like a giant in 3/4 size land. Me, at 5'2; well I'm at home in lilliput land really. Mind you he is happy to squeeze himself into a one man tent that is two feet high at the most in the name of fresh air and exercise so why not a caravan?

ceebee, you BAD mother

twinkling, the central belt isn't so bad really, and at least you'd be able to do meet ups with ellie, chocgal and sparkles . Seriously though, I hope things work out. I know all too well what it's like to be away from family and to move to the bright lights after a relatively quiet existence.

ellie, I hope things are OK once DH is away. It must be really hard for you on your own for that length of time. When my DH was working away at least he was home for weekends and used to work from home quite a bit as well.

I've been listing nappies all night, but have decided to hang onto my remaining bumble sized cloth for a wee while yet! In fact he has been in cloth all day today, and sitting in the garden in a tshirt and nappy.....love it!!

We had a friend over today with her DS who is in DS1's class at school and had a BBQ. thankfully the weather improved from the cool murk of this morning. Poor DD felt a bit out of things though and was desperate to join in the games but just couldn't keep up with two seven year old boys.

Oh, and monumentous news.......we have a tooth!!! and I have been bitten for the first (but no doubt not the last) time feeding bumble some strawberries.

Sorry for the epic!!!

You get used to it in someways but my heart breaks everytime he goes, but what can you do! On the plus side my house will be tidier and I will get caught up with friends etc! Where is your DH interview twinks?

I am only on 4 days, I cannot imagine it being a month!

DH has a job interview at the end of July. If he gets it, it could mean that this will be a regular occurance and that we may have to move from up here, in the far north, to somewhere more central belt
Frightened but also really want DH to get the job cos he would love it and I would be frightened that if he had not applied or now go for the interview that he will regret it and feel stuck in his current job.
Oh well, anyway, no point in worring until the interview and then only if he gets offered it, then he will have lots of things to ask and we will have lots to think about.

ceebee lol at the milkshake bet sam loved it!!
twinks you are not on your own with that my DH goes away for a month tomorrow so will join you on the ceiling lol my DD1 always plays up the first few days!!

Oh, I forgot to say.
I am on my own for the next 4 days! and [scared emoticon]
DH has had to go all the way to Newcastle for a course.
I keep expecting him in from having a wee pinty any minute now, but of course, it is not going to happen.

I stayed at my mums pretty much all day today. I didn't intend to, until I found out she was doing a roast beef for dinner.
hmm, roast beef or leftover pasta dish.
No contest really
Not going anywhere tomorrow, going to try to fly solo.
So you will no doubt be peeling me off the ceiling by the time dinner time comes around!

Ceebee <tut> and you think your a true mumsnetter Bet he enjoyed it though!!

Going for an early night, DH snoring on sofa as we went out last night and we need to be on the ball tomorrow as my car is going to the garage!

Hoping for good sleep for everyone!

Evening all

Vbab sorry you had such a sh*t night last night Even with your Dh's explanation, I still wouldn't be happy with his behaviour - even if it was just to leave you to your own devices when you were obviously unhappy.

Pinky glad Mimi is on the mend again - a rumbling tummy is always a good sign

obs the caravan sounds ace - it is an ideal drive away really isn't it and it is such a lovely part of the country - am very Hey you can get that bikini out again

Bad parent alert today - went to a park with my sis and her kids today and stopped at a cafe to have a drink. I had a banana milkshake and I admit, after Sam had finished his milk, I put a little bit of my milkshake in his bottle Is that really bad??

Oh vbab so sorry that you had such an awful night, from confidence crisis to DH being cornered and flirting.

My DH is such an awful flirt. In that he does it as often as possible! I only don't mind cos I know he was absolutely rubbish at it before he met me and he is only any good cos he knows it would never go anywhere cos he has the best lady at home. It makes him more confident to do it safely. IYSWIM
IMO, and only cos DH is the way he is, words cannot hurt.
In saying that, he is also awful for getting so tied up with his chatting, either male or female, that I can be left in the lurch too.
It happened recently when we went away for a night.
Stupidly I agreed to going with him to meet up with his car club.
What an awful evening!
I ended up going up to the hotel room in tears too, cos DH hadn't spoken to me in so long. He didn't even notice I was missing for an age!
I tried to speak to him but got pulled into another convo about cars <yawn> DH thought I was doing ok, enjoying my convo, so left me. But really I was just smiling politely and desperately trying to get out of it so I could get to DH. By the time I did, DH had disappeared to go look at the cars. In the dark!
I hid in loos, too, for a bit. Then just took off to bed.

Hi all. DH woke up and acted normal so I didnt say anything and we went and picked up the kids. When back home I asked him to read my post on mumsnet to explain why I was acting "weird". Said that I had to get him to read rather than talking but I always say things wrong but much better writing how I feel. I also get to say all I want. He was furious and said i couldnt be more wrong and this is a stupid idea that i must have had in my head to start with. I admit that I was beyond nervous and critical of my appearance before we went out and 1st hour there (nearly didnt as i felt so down). DH was even more angry that I had put these things on mumsnet and now the bad opinion all you ladies now had of him which was wrong. I then got upset in front of the kids which I dont like and said why am i being told off when i'm the one hurt and that if he thinks this is love then he doesnt love me at all.
DH said the "girlfriend" was actually trying to get him angry and kept going on that she knows things about him (she went out with another friend of DH he thinks but not sure). That DH had just about had enough of her and just about to tell her what he thought of her.
After we had both said our piece and had time out DH said he does love me more than anything and he is sorry for leaving on occassion on my own especially as I dont know anyone. We have been ok since.

Sorry for the bizarre- even by my standards- speeling of your name, Vbab!

glad you had a good hol, Rosa

Hello all

vabab Your DH must by now have got the message that he has been judged by the mnet jury to be grossly insensitive at the very least. I hope he has seen the light and is now duly humbled. SHe may also be one of those really irritating women who find happily marrried men v.attractive.

Obs caravan sounds lovely!

Mimi much better and her tummy was rumbling at lunchtime!

Sorry have to dash to make transformer-masks
back later

obs i think i spoke too soon, last night i woke to here him talking for nearly an hour then he got really annoyed and i had to give a bottle to settle him down again and in between that i was up with dd1 with a very bad sore throat and dd2 who is generally up in the night anyway.

Hello,
vbab agree with others a small friendly flirt is fine but it sounds like your DH took it too far, he maybe never realised at first but should have noticed you were upset and realised what he was doing, I hope he is being extra nice and humble to you today.

obs that sounds great I would love something like that

rosa Your beach hols sounds great!

ladybuzz Enjoy your new car, when do you get it?

We were out for tea last night with our neighbours who we have been getting more friendly with over the last few months we had a really good laugh and a drink so when we got home was greeted with DD1 and a temp of over 39 I was like typical, anyhoo she is out playing now so cant be that bad its amazing what nurofen for kids does

DH goes away again tomorrow so he is busy packing etc.

Hello ,Back from beach hols, washing machine going flat out and starting to think about re packing for another escape with Grandparent before going to the Uk - Yipeeee
Have just read back over loads of pages apologies if I forget anybody .... On hols it took ages to load the pages so I couldn't keep up .....
Vbab sorry about your dh being a twat It is pretty insensitive of him even if there is nothing in it - especially as you knew nobody else there.
Daisy saw your pics on FB - I tried minirosa with proper pasta no way she is not interested. She wants to be fed but wants to bounce / play today baby pasta and veg went in her eye and up her nose. She will eat bread/ toast - baby biscuits on her own but anything new I have to hold it to her mouth and then she sometimes catches on .. Anyway we are muddling through. No complete nights though- Monkey. She is on all 4s and toe pointing / bridging but not going forward yet.
Ladybuzz well done on the new car and so when is No3 coming ????
Pinky all better now?
Coolcat - I threw all my heels away as I found they were dust collecting!
B*ger baby awake ....Back later I hope

oooh Obs you lucky lady!! All my childhood hols were spent in Poole, caravanning! We used to stay in a caravan site in Organford and go to Branksom-dene-chyne (sp?) beach - which I can lovingly recommend. OOh enjoy,enjoy! Am massively but also thrilled for you of course
vbab Agree with daisy appalling behaviour for a husband I think a mini flirt is fine - bit of banter but to spend evening chatting and neglect you - not on. Having said that I am sure there is no way in the world that he would want to replace a remarkable woman like you, the amazing mother of his beautiful children. The connection you have with him runs much deeper than with this flirtation and am sure he feels very foolish today. If he doesn't apologise/ grovel today though grrrrrrr...

Hi ladies
vbab hope your ok, did you manage to talk to your DH?
obs that sounds fab. Not too far away but far enough that it feels like a holiday. I have very fond memories of caravan holidays when I was little.

Hi to everyone

Obs you sound FAB. x Good on you, don't forget to invest in a little BBQ. X

Vbab, I am sorry but that is totally unacceptable behaviour. But then my dh would not do that, he really isn't like that.
Tegan, glad for you, for the sleepthrough. Long may it continue.
LadyB, oh its so exciting when you get a new car, even if its not new new, as it were. Happy days. Driving along. Space in the back for all the children. And buggy and shopping. Oh happy days. I love driving.
I may be taking a leave of abscence from you lovely ladies. Only joking. I may not be here very much, because I will be on the caravan/camping thread. Yes it is true. We are being given a caravan. Almost given. Our neighbour has been caravaning for 10 years. And now it is too much for them. So they are giving it to us. % berth caravan with awning and tent, for £100. Is worth £1000's.
Has everything. Cutlery, hoover, fridge. In Blandford, Dorset. We went to see it yesterday. Takes 11/4 hrs to get there. Then we went and had fish and chips at Poole Harbour before coming home. What a lovely day.
So holidays in dorset from now on. So happy. Need to get on e-bay and buy some sleeping bags, clip on high chairs etce tc for our new 'lifestyle'
Oh happy days. Am so happy.

I think your DH sounds like he was being a bit of an arse vbab, sorry. Flirting with your mates GF in front of your own is barely acceptable behaviour when you are a teenager, let alone in your 30s and married with children.

Men can be such tossers at times.

Regardless of whether it was friendly banter or a bit of mild flirting, he should have taken more care of you and not left you on your own given that you didn't really know anyone at the do and he knows that you are feeling a bit emotionally raw at the minute.

I hope he is suitably humbled and ashamed of his behaviour this morning.

hugs xx

vbab try not to read to much into it it might be nothing. I can see why this would bother you though.
However I do think that he has been a complete insensitive git (sorry) and you re well within your rights to be upset about it.
You should be his main concern especially if you are upset regardless of what is upsetting you.
You should mention it to him as it is obvoiusly upsetting you, he needs to know that his actions are causing you to feel this way.
Hope this makes sense, FB me if you want a chat x

coolkat i know what you are saying BUT DH mate is 1 of his eldest mates. DH has met briefly "the girlfriend" once before last night. The banter and constant attention was not with his mate or his wife but a virtual stranger.

Vbab hugs. I don't know what to say hun as I was not there but if it was one of his eldest friends could it not just have been banter? rightly or wrongly DH should have realised you were feeling hurt. Vbab you are truley a lovely person and look wonderful, I am sure your DH idolises you, sometimes life just gets in the way of us mums and DH's and we don't have as many laughs, sex, time alone as you did pre-kids. Speak to DH when he wakes about how you felt last night. Here if you need to off load. X

Basics ... went to a b'day do where 1 of DH oldest mates was with girl friend. I know DH mate a bit over years but no one else. As the night went on DH and the girl friend kept having banter but I could see how he was with her (like he used to be with me) IYSWIM. A couple of times because I couldnt take seeing it I walked off and sat on my own (dont know anyone). DH didnt even look in my direction, ask where I was going or come and try to find me. He was so into her, she was his focus with this banter. At the end of the night at one point I ran to toilet sobbing and some women were asking over cube if I was ok and I said "yes thanks" whilst sobbing and DH finally noticing me outside toilet. Then when I came out of the loo he was asking me what was up (didnt get chance to say) and who came along to go to the loo . She didnt end up going to the loo as the banter continued and I walked away again. DH continued his banter with her, didnt ask me again why i was sobbing and didnt follow me. Could just see his attraction, it hurt. Then about 15mins later DH mate (the boy friend) said what's up. I said "your girlfriend". He said "stop being stupid" and went over to them. Didnt see what was said to them but THEN DH came back to me and I got home as quickly as possible not talking to DH. Now waiting for DH to wake up and dont know what to do or say.

Vbab you ok sweetie? What has happened? - If you want to talk that is. x

VBAB hun just logged on quick, hung over, but are you ok? x

What do you do when you have seen your DH strongly attracted to someone else and feel like your heart has been broken for good?

Evening all - just sat here with a lovely glass of white wine having just watched Andy Murray breeze through

Right, 8th July it is then - any more takers?? Need to find a restaurant that has at least 4 high chairs free

Buzz I feel that I won't live up to your 'svelte' image of me - I still have 20 pounds to go!! Plus, never mind me, I am sure we won't recognise the new slim, trim you either

Coolkat about how you are feeling. I love my heels and would be if I couldn't wear them - and although I only wear them for work normally, I actually couldn't imagine going to work without heels (is that very shallow of me??)

Pinky hope Mimi picks up again soon. Sam was like that last week (plus DS1) - me and DH lost count of the amount of dirty nappies we had changed by Sunday night!!

twinkling, forgot to say that I hope you are feeling less tired and emotional and that J slept a bit better last night

I'll try a few days of cloth and see how we go. It's costing us a fortune in disposies at the minute with them both in them!

We've got the ordinary scenic, not the grand one, but in hindsight.........it does though. It's a bit of a squash and a squeeze with three of them in the back, and we had to buy a narrower booster seat for DS1, but during the week I have DS1 in the front and the two little ones in the back so it's fine.

DH has a company car and gets all petrol paid for, so we are taking two cars when we go on holiday so that we can get all our kit in!!! not very environmentally friendly I know, but we couldn't take the fishing gear otherwise!

Ah Daisy do what makes you happy. Try sposies with DD and bumble in cloth and if not working you have lost nothing.

Car sounds nice LB X

Pinky hope you had good night. Glad you are feeling bit better.

I feel like I am going to murder someone and its looking like DH. He not really doing ought wrong butr Rahhhhh Feel down. We are going out to a BBQ tonight and have nothing to wear, finding when wear heels my back really plays up but have no nice flats only my Birkies.Going to try heels one more time and if hurt tomorrow that's it with them Was fine before this last pregnancy. I feel so frumpy....

Sounds like a nice car, LB <knows nothing about cars but likes the name>

TeganI know I was bl**dy knackered this morning!

Daisy why don't you put bumble in cloth and DD in sposies? you've got loads of nappies I 'm sure you wouldn't have to do so many loads of washing?

MImis poo is no better and she has a sore bot from so many changes

8th July is good for me too! .

Can't wait to see ou all again - esp the new svelte Ceebee!

Well we have a new car (or we will tomorrow)a Renault Grand Scenic with 7 seats. I tried my very very best to find a way to fit three seats into the back of the very nice Audi we saw but it quite simply was not happening so sensible family car it is! Its actually really nice and in very very good condition.

LOL at Daisy being sentimental over the nappies!

tegan hope your girls feel better soon.

pinky hope mimi is better soon too - poor love!

DH is working tonight so I am looking forward to a nice bath and a chilled night on my own with a couple of glasses of wine!

Poor Mimi Pinky; I hope she is better today....and that you aren't too knackered after your late night!

I'm having a crisis of confidence re nappies!!! My friends wee boy was running around in just a tshirt and his ME wrap yesterday and it looked so cute. Can't do that with dispos! So, I have bumble in a shaped terry nappy and my last big sized wrap just now and am wondering whether or not to carry on cloth-ing him, but put DD in dispos. DH says No to cloth as the washing is too much as it is, but <sobs> I don't want to sell my cloth nappies. The ones that he has grown out of fine, but my lovingly collected stash (some of which has gone already)....noooooooo <sobs>.

How is it possible to get sentimental over something which, at the end of the day, is designed to catch poo?

Big time teething going on. It is very nearly through but he is Not Happy about it.

Off to peruse nappy websites...

Morning all

pinky you should get to bed a bit earlier sweety you will be knackered today being up at midnight.

O slept through again last night. He went down at 8.30 and woke at 6am so i can't complain at that as 6am is my time to get up in the week anyway.

Both my dd's are poorly - dd1 has a really sore throat and can't swallow and dd2 lost her voise yesterday and is still hasn't returned YAY, but she is fine in herself.

I am supposed to be taking both dd's to the opticians today, dd2 needs to collect her glasses and dd1's glasses have spectacularly fallen apart this week and she only had them in january so i am taking them back and letting her have some xmas money now so she can get a pair of Bench glasses before she goes to secondary school.

Hello
Late for me, I have been out with lovely friend/neighbour.

Had to take Mimi to hosp today because she got really off tummy with the AB's. SHe has the all clear now for her chest and doesn't need the medicine anymore, so that is great news.

8 July for TC sounds great for me.

LBuzz Your friends sound lovely, that is such a wonderful idea.

Twinks I hope you get a better night tonight. It's really warm here and all our children are a bit unsettled with it.

Juanitad well done with the phone thing. I have given DH the job of sorting mine out [cowardy custard emoticon]

Night allx

Golly, where is everyone tonight??
Not off watching BB, are you?
I am, how sad am I? But not watching that 8 out of 10 cats nonsense, can't stand that Jimmy Carr.

Bad night with J again
down at 8, slept to 1130, DH settled him.
Fed at 1230 when he fed fits and starts (think I managed half hour kips) until 330 when he woke and talked to himself until 430.
fed again at 545 then up at nearly 8. Waking at nearly 8 still felt like a lie in though

I had a wee sob at 4ish, why won't my DS sleep??

I'm just not sure if the taking out the dummy thing is working or not though sometimes he is sleeping better, I just can't decide. In general it has improved, 2 nights ago we only fed twice! but still.....
In saying that he was such a smiley wee man today, it was lovely!

fudge i live in coleford, a lovely little town.

I am really sorry i can@t get to a meet up with you all it would be fab

8 July good for me , but don't let me stop everyone meeting this week if that suits better.

Ok how about the Wednesday after (8 July) for the Traff Centre? Pinky, Daisy and Buzz are you free that day?

oh, I can't come to the TC next Wednesday as i'm getting my dodgy mole removed.

jaunita....S&P was soooooo quiet today. I called you to come up but you were obviously out getting your new mobile! they had some women from the library who put on a bit of a show with stories and songs; it was really nice. I've put your name down for the next few weeks....into August I believe! You can always take it off on the ones you can't do

sainsbury's have a third off all baby stuff at the minute so I have stocked up on nappies and organix goodies....but forgot to get wipes!!!

Came home and found some random things that DD must have shoved in the trolley when I wasn't looking....how I didn't notice when I was loading them onto the conveyor belt or into bags I have no idea

Harrogate - so looks like we can all do Tuesday 21st July. So far we've got juanitad daisy barbs ceebee lolabella. Anyone else near enough is obviously welcome too.

ceebee and pinky I will give the TC meet-up a miss. ceebee, you are such a social butterfly at the moment!

Am v pleased with myself as I got a new mobile today. I have been on a rubbish deal for years, never bothered changing my tarrif, and finally I have got a better deal and a much better phone! V exciting! (what a sad life I lead!)

Buzz your description of what your friends are doing today brought tears to my eyes Even though it must be so so hard to lose a child, trying to explain it to an older sibling must make it so much harder

So, if no history of allergies in my family, do we think peanut butter may be ok to give the Hamster??

Fudge have a lovely lovely holiday - looks like it will be warm and sunny for you

Right, Traff Centre meet-up - next Wednesday then?? Is that ok with everyone who wants to come? (Buzz can't remember what days your DS1 goes to nursery)

Daisy, love the linguine hair extensions. Went to Kings yesterday. Saw 6 ladies sat in an african hairdressers, all having done, what your ds seems to be doing. Ha ha !!

LB honda as choc says- DH was saying only yesterday that a lot of the new european cars are going to be wider from now on- due to demand re carseats, I suppose.
We have a Fiat Doblo which is really fab, cheap to run, tax,insure etc. with a huge boot. We've found the extra height really handy- no bumping your head when putting the DC into the car, and the sliding doors are a real bonus.
The multipla is very good, too.

morning
Fab FB pics daisy
Glad things improving on the sleep front barbs*
*ladybuzz the HONDA FR-V takes 3 seats across the back and has a good sized boot, we looked at it before buying our Qashqai but decided it was too big as we only have 1 DC! Not sure how cheap it would be to run though.
Yay for sleepthrough tegan we had one last night too, i also dont want to get too excited as am only too aware it may not last! Heres hoping for us though.
Have a fab holiday fudge

Hi to everyone

*Trafford Centre* I would love to meet you ladies again. Would love to do Harrogate as i think it is beautiful but maybe a little bit too far for me! Def up for the TC though .

Vbab they don't know what happened to my firends little boy yet. It could take up to 6 months to get any answers as they are doing further tests on his brain, he was epileptic and had an undiagnosed developmental condition. Hopefully they will find something but they have said they might not. They are taking their DS1 to his grve today as they have told him that Mattie is waiting on a cloud for a balloon to come past and take him into the sky to be a star. They are all going to release balloons for him - How sweet!

Ceebee DS loves his big boys bike but hasn't quite got the hang of pedaling yet - he goes backwards instead . DH is going to set him off this weekend! He looks so grown up!

I think we are going to have to change our car it failed its MOT yesterday and cost over £200 to put right - and thats through my mate getting the work done out of hours .
It costs a fortune on fuel/tax etc etc so I think we might have to go newer to save money if that makes sense??
Question - does anyone have a car with plenty of boot space that has 3 true rear seats (thinking future for 3 car seats here ) that doesn't cost a fortune to run or tax?

Thanks Obs, no history of allergies here and considering M has already had egg whites and peanuts I might as well go all out rule breaking with the scallops!

ChocO, it is 12 months for : Seafoods (prawns, crabs, dried and fresh scallops)
Peanuts
Egg white
BUT, this is only if there is 'Strong Family History of Allergy'.
My Hv said now is fine, if there is no allergy concerns.
Tegan and Fudge, I love the Forest of Dean. My brother has lived in Newnham for more than 10 years and I have spent alot of time there and lived with him at one point. I love the Forest. I think it is a VERY special place.

morning all

O slept through..... yay
I don't expect it will ever happen again but i feel great for the undisturbed rest.

Haven't been around in a few days, had a horrible on/off cold/bad throat/temperature thing. Feel much better today which is just as well as we're going on holiday tomorrow . Am looking forward to it apart from having to pack for 3 kids now as well as myself. We're off to Ireland tomorrow for a week, am sure there'll be stacks of pages to catch up on in a week!!!

Drumroll.......M finally rolled over for the first time today!!! I know he is one of the younger ones, but even so, he's a bit lazy! I was upstairs hanging washing out when I heard this funny screeching from him. He was downstairs under his play gym. I ran down the stairs to discover him kissing the mat, arm stuck underneath himself. Poor thing, think he gave himself a fright, although not too badly because he did it again a few minutes later.

tegan meant to say to you, I am in Stroud. What part of the Forest are you in??

Righto, must go and pack a few things. We're not going till after DH gets back fro work tomorrow evening, so hopefully will have time to MN tomorrow.

Love to all, sorry its all about me.

Hello!
Harrogate meetup - I'm easy, can do 21st or 22nd July. Would be lovely to meet CeeBee.
Pinky sorry missed the post about Mimi being poorly, hope she gets better quickly. By the way, you're clearly a wonderful Mum!
Daisy that book's great isn't it? I really felt I needed a bit of guidance. Was also inspired to video W today, really enjoying giving him new stuff to try.
Sorry, I feel I've missed loads of people
William sleeping really well with me but was starting to wonder how things would pan out in the new house sleepwise. Currently DH on sofa
I'm now able to feed W to sleep on the bed, so I can sneak off, but when he gets more mobile, it's going to be dangerous, so think when we move, we will just put our mattress on the floor and W's mattress next to it with a bed guard. Hopefully that means we can all sleep in one happy mess until W decides its time to break out! I never expected this would be our sleeping arrangements, but it works, even if no-one else thinks we're doing it right.
Anyhoo, hope everyone's having a peaceful night, and Daisy gets her tea

Great FB photos Daisy - I love the running commentary too!

Does anyone know if I can give DS scallops?

lol Daisy I gave my DC linguine tonight! Mimi loved it- broccoli, meatballs and tomato and basil sauce- she found it all very exciting!

pinky, my DD is terrible at going to sleep at the minute. It's a lot better since putting her back in the cot though as she now just lies there chuntering to herself rather than deconstructing her bedroom!!

Can I come to the Trafford centre as well? I know rutho starts work soon, so maybe she can make the TC next week as well?

I have drunk several glasses of red wine tonight and feel fished as a part. Just realised I haven't had any tea

At teatime tonight we had some "adventures with linguine". Photos on FB! It was a frustrating time as he knew what he wanted to do with it, but everytime he managed to get some to his mouth it just fell out and he was getting really annoyed. I have a video clip but no idea how to load it.....

Hi all just checking in will catch up tomorrow, thanks for all your kind words for my mums cousin we are taking comfort from the fact that he isnt suffering at the hands of those people any more.
ladybuzz was thinking about you and your friend yesterday.

Pinky aw bless your DD1 Is she still having a nap during the day? Maybe she is ready to drop that (although I am sure you have already thought of that )

Right, anyone else want to meet me and Pinky for lunch at the Traff Centre in the next couple of weeks - let me know before we set the date

My little DD1 said tonight "I love you very very much mummy' and gave me a big kiss. It wholly made up for the fact that she only went to sleep 5 minutes ago .
She just won't go to sleep atthe moment,I don't know what to do. I'm guessing it's just a phase, but I am sooo tired!

They have moved on from being tortoises and now play mainly at being caterpillars going into and emmerging from their cocoons as butterflies. It's very funny

I'm loving all these stories of siblingsplaying witht their baby brothers and sisters- it si so wirth it, isn't it? DS was makign water squirt up out of a bottle in the bath tonight and Mimi found it hilarious.

Ceebee a trip to the Trafford centre would be really cool. any day except tuesday or thursday next week would suit me, and any day except tuesday the following week (that's when I go to therapist).

I am quite free and easy now that DD1 has totally eschewed Tumbletots and Rhythmn and Rhyme. I think I will sign mimi up for them for after christmas, as DD1 should be starting nursery then and I would like to give mimi the chance to see if she likes it (DS loved them both, and DD1 loved it until she turned 2).

choc glad dinner went well

lolabella I am quite suprised there is no 8 month check. You see the hv and nurse at 1 year anyway for jabs, so it sounds to me like some places are making cuts. As regards first time mums, our local baby massage groups were for first time mums only and they were run by one of the HV, but if you didn't go to that you just had to take yourself to baby clinic. There is only one a week here and yes, you guessed it, it'as on a tuesday! TBH if I am worried about my DC I take them to the GP, HV would not be my first choice. Though thye seem quite nice. The one I had for DS was a dragon. WHen I said DS was not going to nursery, she said 'well how are you going to socialise the child??" in this kind of meldramatic tone she had.Lol. It's very funny when you see just how outgoing DS is.

Sorry I am waffling on.

I feel much better now. WHat a difference a day can make

Daisy I think Harrogate is probably just that little bit too far with both of them (and I haven't been outdoors with the pair of them by myself for more than a couple of hours so not sure I could cope ) Honestly, it is fine for you to all meet on the 20th if it is better for you all

twinks, I have some totsbots star wraps; the new style ones, which are just fab!

Given that my fat bloater little cherub with his thunder ample thighs grew out of them at 4 months I can't quite comprehend them fitting any child until over a year old!!!!!

I'll email you some pics.

Ceebee, my DD will be there for a playmate for DS1??????

Juanitad i can do either
Apart from getting married, not much on that week

Lolabella and barbs, could you do 21st or 22nd? Would be nice if ceebee could join too, if not we'll go ahead on 20th and see ceebee at next meet up.

Juanitad sorry, missed your post earlier. the 20th is no good for me as I don't really want to bring Ds1 with me but go ahead on that day as it suits everyone else

Evening

Pinky glad Mimi's 8-month check went well - I quite look forward to the checks tbh. Did you get any books aswell? I keep meaning to mention that we really must meet for lunch at the Traff Centre (and anyone else who wants to join us) before the summer hols - what do you think? Sometime in the next 2 weeks??

Buzz glad DS1 had a good birthday - did he like the bike?

Vbab Ds1 swings between playing with the Hamster really nicely and calmly to torturing playing roughly with him This morning, DS1 got up at 5.45 and was fidgeting around in my bed, the Hamster woke up just after 6 so DS1 got up and said he was going to read him a book (i.e. climb in his cot and play with him) so I let him but with all the doors open so I could hear if the Hamster starting crying - DS1 sat in the cot for half an hour playing peekaboo, 'reading' him a couple of books and just generally playing with him - made me very (and almost made up for the fact that, last night, he upturned the inflatable playnest that the Hamster was sitting in causing the Hamster to bang his head on the fireplace!!)

Really sorry but must have missed the north meet up post. What are the details?