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Another woman killed by her ex violent shit of a partner.

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sundayrose10 Tue 07-Jun-11 01:56:32

It's just so tragic and I feel so angry at another senseless death on a woman by a scum. It's well known leaving an abusive partner is the most dangerous time...why don't the police do more?

It is too sad for words. How can the surviving child even begin to get through something like that?


From the daily fail. I can't link so copied and pasted.

100 threats to kill: Mother handed police texts days before ex-partner gunned down her and their little girl

Shotgun shoved in child's mouth just moments before murders
Watchdog probes claims police knew of volatile situation between parents
A terrified mother handed police 100 menacing text messages from her crazed ex-partner days before he shot her and their two-year-old dead.
Chrissie Chambers, 38, made a formal statement to officers last week about David Oakes’s repeated threats to kill her during a bitter row over access to their daughter.
Nothing was done and yesterday morning Oakes killed Miss Chambers and young Shania in their home.

The killer also shoved his shotgun into the mouth of Shania’s half sister, Chelsea, who saved her life by fleeing through a window and on to the kitchen roof.
Her mother had urged the ten-year-old to ‘run, run, save yourself while you can’.
Last night an inquiry was launched by the Independent Police Complaints Commission after it emerged that officers had been called to the house a number of times over the past two years,
It was also claimed that Oakes was subjected to a non-molestation order that prevented him from coming within 100 yards of her.
Stuart Flitt, 26, who is a half brother to Chelsea, said police had been given warning after warning.
‘The last time she made a statement was on Thursday – she was making statements to the police all week,’ he said.
‘She gave police over 100 text messages but they never took her seriously.
‘These texts threatened to kill her – I had been staying round there for her own safety.’
A close friend of the family said: ‘The police said to her “We cannot do anything until something happens to you”. She was scared – she sobbed her heart out to me on Friday. This should not have happened.
‘The police were in the wrong and they knew about this weeks ago.’

Unemployed Oakes, 50, was under police guard in hospital last night with non life-threatening injuries after turning the gun on himself at the end of a two-hour stand-off at the semi-detached house in Braintree, Essex.
Chelsea’s father, Ian Flitt, said he was woken in the early hours of yesterday morning by Chelsea who was banging on his door.
The 50-year-old said: ‘She started screaming “He is there at the house with a gun” and ‘He has put it into Chrissie’s mouth”.’
Oakes killed his former partner before turning the gun on Shania. Chelsea climbed through the window on to the kitchen roof, before dropping ten feet to the ground below and running half a mile barefoot in her nightgown to her father’s house. ‘If he was prepared to shoot his own daughter, he would have shot her,’ he said.
Oakes, who has been described as an ‘abusive, jealous woman hater’, embarked on his killing spree hours before a court appearance over the custody of Shania.
He and Miss Chambers had been together for six years before they split seven weeks ago.
She had had a ten-year relationship with Mr Flitt and they had three children, Levi 16, Guy, 11, and Chelsea, who lived with her and Shania.

Assistant Chief Constable Gary Beautridge of Essex Police said: ‘We have had two years of contact between him [Oakes] and the family and as part of the investigation there will be a full and fundamental review of the circumstances of this contact.’
Amid dramatic scenes outside her house yesterday, a distraught man shouted at officers: ‘You knew this was going to happen, you could have stopped it.’

Donna Garrod, 20, said Oakes, who is understood to have been a drug dealer, had been violent toward Miss Chambers for years.
‘One time he kidnapped Shania and police had to escort Christine to his caravan to get her back,’ she said. ‘I have seen her with bruises, a black eye and a broken nose.
‘The police knew what was going on. I was there most times when the police came round. She had been calling them for two weeks.’
Karran Tomlinson, 35, said she had lived next to Miss Chambers for four years and had heard many violent rows during that time – including threats from Oakes to kill Shania.
She said: ‘Dave was a nasty piece of work. He had been beating her up for years. I think she was just too scared to leave him.
‘She finally found the courage to leave him seven weeks ago and now this has happened.’
Police managed to enter the house at around 5.45am, and arrested Oakes who was taken to Broomfield Hospital, in Chelmsford. Last night a life-long friend of Oakes said he had terrorised women for more than 20 years because of his uncontrollable jealously. The woman, who asked not to be named, said: ‘As soon as I heard I knew it had to be David.
‘He has a vicious temper and is not a man to be crossed.’

DontCallMePeanut Tue 07-Jun-11 02:21:15

This is sad. It doesn't get any easier with every story. It get's fucking harder, because you realise the police, social services and society are NOT doing their god damn jobs, and protecting the vulnerable.

WorzselMummage Tue 07-Jun-11 02:28:02

sad

It's sickening.

somedayillbesaturdaynite Tue 07-Jun-11 02:35:04

sad that could've been me. we are in hiding now and safe smile

RIP Angels xxx

Bogeyface Tue 07-Jun-11 03:44:11

But if she had killed him after a beating, the police would have been there quick enough angry

RIP xx

honeybee007 Tue 07-Jun-11 06:43:39

This is so tragic and has made me cry. She must have been terrified for herself and her children. RIP and god help Chelsea and family xx

thumbwitch Tue 07-Jun-11 06:52:11

Poor woman and baby - I wish they would bring back the death penalty for bastards like him. I know it's not Christian, I know it's "an eye for an eye" etc. and probably morally wrong - but there is NO WAY fuckers like him should be allowed to ever walk free again.

I hope he is fucked every which way when he's in prison and dies in very unpleasant circumstances. And I'm not doing myself any karmic favours there, I know. But it makes me spitting mad when this sort of thing happens.

It's about time the police reviewed their policies on DV and death threats if this is the sort of shit they dole out, when they're supposed to help protect people. angry

And I hope that Chelsea gets the support and help she needs to get over this unutterable trauma - poor little girl. sad

cookcleanerchaufferetc Tue 07-Jun-11 07:05:00

It's about time the home office reviewed policies on dv etc .... They make the rules, not the police.

thumbwitch Tue 07-Jun-11 07:09:52

OK - whoever - it's about time SOMEONE did something about it.

cookcleanerchaufferetc Tue 07-Jun-11 07:12:23

There is also the girl, currently in the news, who got beaten to a pulp by the boyfriend and he got a £20 fine and community service ..... Love the stupid judges too!

Al0uiseG Tue 07-Jun-11 07:20:58

It's so horrific, the Telegraph article quotes his father as being worried about him because of his violent tendencies.

Al0uiseG Tue 07-Jun-11 07:23:00

Sometimes I wonder who will have to die at the hands of a violent partner before the law is adapted to fast track these bastards into prison.

CareyFakes Tue 07-Jun-11 07:25:27

This tragic story highlights the horror that is Domestic Violence and how it's NOT being dealt with effectively.

The poor surviving child, she will have the hardest time.

CheerfulYank Tue 07-Jun-11 07:29:02

How viciously sad. Threats need to be taken seriously. His own little baby FFs! I can't stand it sad

Al0uiseG Tue 07-Jun-11 07:35:27

I've just been reading about him, apparently he was a vicious, violent drug dealer. Should have been inside for that alone or don't we imprison drug dealers anymore?

This thread remembers every woman who dies in the UK at the hands of a partner or an ex partner. It makes hugely depressing reading because it's so frequent.

Murdering the children always seems particularly barbaric

pinkytheshrinky Tue 07-Jun-11 07:37:51

I have been in this situation with a violent ex and no, the Police do not do very much or the SS. I have had access to our files from both these agencies in court and although they both at times admit there is violence in the home they choose to do nothing and suggest we attend 'mediation' - which he had already refused. Went to court last week for a finding of fact case about the violence and his neglect of the children - hoping I get a good result because I am self representing. Not able to get Legal Aid as he refuses to deal with financial matters so I can either release money or be skint enough to get help - the abuse carries on.

This is a dreadful dreadful situation. God only knows how the older child who escaped is going to manage to cope. I notice that this morning the Police had voluntarily referred this case to the Police Complaints Commission which says to me that the shit is going to hit the fan big time - Doesn't help that poor woman and her family now though does it?

Greythorne Tue 07-Jun-11 07:43:06

Family annilihators....one more category of criminal which is almost exclusively male.
Appalling. So sad.

I hope the young girl who escaped can in time recover and make something of her life.

RIP both.

aurynne Tue 07-Jun-11 07:43:28

Vicious disgusting hideous vomit-inducing creature!!! angry I hope he spends the rest of his miserable life being beaten up and abused in jail, and dies a slow painful death with something like bowel cancer. If anyone feels bad for wishing him bad, let me know, and I will wish it on him for you.

That beautiful girl, and that poor, lovely, brave woman. I can't write anymore...

QuickLookBusy Tue 07-Jun-11 07:49:56

The whole thing is unbelievable.angry

Why did noone help this poor woman, couldn't the police have a least directed her to Women's Aid if they couldn't be arsed to do anything themselves? I don't know how they sleep at night. It was their job to do something.

pinky I hope you get what you want from the court hearing.

charitygirl Tue 07-Jun-11 07:51:34

Saw this story this morning and said to myself that if I'm ever in this situation I'll get a gun and learn how to use it. Too many stories of women 'doing the right thing', telling the police, and getting killed anyway.

charitygirl Tue 07-Jun-11 07:52:57

Saw this story this morning and said to myself that if I'm ever in this situation I'll get a gun and learn how to use it. Too many stories of women 'doing the right thing', telling the police, and getting killed anyway.

Two years of complaints against a man the police know is violent. And the evidence is that women are at greatest risk immediately after they have left.

And still she gets no protection, no nothing. And this will be another dreadful mistake and lessons will be learned. Until the next time it happens

AyeRobot Tue 07-Jun-11 08:02:19

She had a non-molestation order against him too.

You know how you can get electronic tags that sound an alarm if a criminal leaves their home? Perhaps they should do one in reverse so that an alarm is sounded if a man breaks that electronic cordon the other way. The woman could have the "home" unit on her, so that he could never come near without an alert going out. A little light tazer action could be incorporated into the abuser's unit, just for extra discouragement.

Greenstocking Tue 07-Jun-11 08:05:11

How horrifically tragic.

But WHY do good women get involved with scum like this in the first place? WHY?

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