MM-Blood-sugar-diet-Part4

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Not2bObvious Sat 25-Jun-16 11:17:03

Shiny new thread for the BSD'ers. Best thing you can do is first read the MM bsd book do you get a full grasp of what the rules are but in a nutshell:
800 calories a day
No bread/pasta/potatoes/rice
No processed food, no alcohol
As close to no sugar you can get
Full fat, no low fat
Protein to keep you full
2-3 litres of water a day
10,000 steps a day (work your way up)
HIIT if you can 2-3 times a week

Not2bObvious Sat 25-Jun-16 13:52:01

And it's 800 a day for 8 weeks, then transition to 800 in a 5:2 manner if you like or 3:4 or 2:5 or any combo you like til you hit goal. Then 6:1 to maintain.

APlaceOnTheCouch Sat 25-Jun-16 14:16:42

Thanks Not2b . I am just place marking so I don't lose the new thread.

didireallysaythat Sat 25-Jun-16 14:59:40

One litre of water drunk.... I'm sloshing as I walk now.

thenewaveragebear1983 Sat 25-Jun-16 16:42:22

Place marking, thanks not2be

notsoold Sat 25-Jun-16 19:03:39

Marking my place....

notsoold Sat 25-Jun-16 19:04:31

Marking my place

GraceGildee Sun 26-Jun-16 16:36:05

Bobbing on to say I have a thread here with lots of photos of what we're eating if anyone hasn't seen it, didn't want to derail the main thread with daily pictures.

17lbs down now, roasting veg in the oven at the moment for the next couple of days.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/fasting_diet/2653712-My-big-fat-800-calorie-blood-sugar-diet-diary-all-welcome?msgid=61948749#61948749

Not2bObvious Sun 26-Jun-16 16:51:35

May as well move over here now, only 2 messages to go until old thread closed.
My stomach is aching, that awful feeling where you need the loo but the urge isn't there - sorry for the tmi😖 Really have to take my psyllium husk capsules with dinner, they might help. I had a croissant earlier which probably didn't help (had to though, free in Lidl in Ireland due to Ireland vs France game - be rude not to)
How's everyone else getting on today?

thenewaveragebear1983 Sun 26-Jun-16 19:50:03

Has anyone made the green tea blueberry shake from the book? I have just typed all the ingredients into my calorie tracker for tomorrow and it says 180 cals not 100 as in the book- wondered if anyone has found it to be inaccurate, I know some of the recipes are.

APlaceOnTheCouch Sun 26-Jun-16 20:16:05

I see your croissant not2b and raise you half a plate of pancakes. wink
I'm at 657 calories and 60g carbs. I have had to force myself to eat as I feel so seedy. I am actually glad I don't need to eat any more. My steps have been non-existent so I have no idea what the scales will say tomorrow.
bear I haven't made the shake but I've never found a recipe with an accurate nutritional breakdown ponders if this is because I always tweak recipes a bit

BeyondTellingEveryoneRealFacts Sun 26-Jun-16 20:17:22

Marking my place

Not2bObvious Sun 26-Jun-16 21:48:22

Ended my day at under 1200 which is excellent for a Sunday round mine. Flip all steps done here but no alcohol so that's a plus. If I wake early enough I'm going for a run. I've realised the probable reason I'm finding running easier is I'm probably 15 pounds lighter than when I used to run, had to help having less of me to drag along eh?

yumyumpoppycat Sun 26-Jun-16 22:13:00

Good work not2be - fingers crossed for 10.12 on friday!

Hope you feel better place.

Newaverage the recipes are reported to be unreliable for cals, however, one poster on here followed the meal plan rather than logging on MFP and they lost loads of weight. I think brands can differ in what they advertise the cals as, also manufacturers are legally allowed to get the cals a bit wrong so even something apparently 'safe' like a readymeal is likely to be off in either direction by 20%. The thought is that it all balances out as sometimes we overestimate and sometimes underestimate. This is another good thing about the 800 cal limit, it allows room for error. I think MM says this is the reason why they use nutritional shakes in research studies as the cals are more reliable.

didireallysaythat Mon 27-Jun-16 07:26:20

So 6 days in (4 days religiously sticking to the rules, 2 days over 800 but eating with the rules in mid ie grilled chicken and salad) and I've lost 2lb.

Like the current political situation, it's a bit disappointing. I guess I just keep on with it ? (At 3 days I showed no weight loss so not too surprising I guess).

thenewaveragebear1983 Mon 27-Jun-16 07:46:46

Its in the right direction did and do you feel better? I did lose a lot in my first few weeks, but the basically nothing for a few weeks,but the nice light healthy feeling is what got me through those tough middle weeks rather than the weight loss!
Than for advice re:cals. I've not followed the book strictly for recipes yet so I think I'll calorie count them to be sure. I'm doing 5 days from the book now to get my head back on track! I think the inaccuracy might be because he uses tbsp measures of yoghurt and nuts rather than weights, so I'll see how it measures up when my shopping arrives.
Quite looking forward to a back to basics, day one day! (Need it as well, I'm a whopping 4lb up this morning!)

notsoold Mon 27-Jun-16 07:54:49

didi I would say do not give up. 2lbs gone and never coming back. Did you take measurements??? I didn't so will do today.
How did you find it? The first week is the hardest I hear....

Not2bObvious Mon 27-Jun-16 08:32:14

Morning all. did, 2 pounds is 7000 cals not eaten/worked off, not shabby at all. when you say you followed the rules, did you do the 10,000 steps a day & no alcohol? I know you're keeping to the water, but remember if you've already been lc'ing you won't have huge glycogen stores to deplete which would be why lots lose 4/5 pounds in the first week. As they say in bootcamp, koko.
Dragged myself out of bed & did a 40 min run, nearly 4 miles😁 In other news, blockages are, ahem, shifting. Thank the Lord!
bear, that's the usual weekend bloat- be gone in a day or 2. Wishing you all a successful 800 today, we can do it!

APlaceOnTheCouch Mon 27-Jun-16 08:37:48

didi 2lb is a good start. Imagine if you lost 2lbs every week - it all adds up!
There are a couple of things I changed after my first week, as I became more familiar with BSD. I monitored my carbs as much as I monitored my calories; and I looked at my eating window until I found the best way for me. Some posters have breakfast and then shut up kitchen earlier in the evening. Usually I'm the opposite because I have never been a big fan of breakfast so my window starts later but the important part is how many non-eating hours you are having between dinner and breakfast. Sorry if you already know this. They're just the 2 points I didn't pay enough attention to at the beginning.

BeyondTellingEveryoneRealFacts Mon 27-Jun-16 09:59:59

I'm 2lbs down even though it was my practise week smile and i think saturdays ridiculously sweet cocktails and chips will have refilled my glycogen, so have that to lose again?
I'm not a natural breakfast eater but have to take morning tablets with food. Meh.
Didnt get my steps done yesterday as i went to bed at 4pm grin

Oblomov16 Mon 27-Jun-16 10:44:17

marking my place.
I've put on quite a few lb's, over the last month or so. Like 5 lbs put on!! sad angry at myself. I'm going to try really hard for the next 3 weeks.

ThatsWotSheSaid Mon 27-Jun-16 13:01:41

Hello everyone can I join you? smile
I have been doing the BSD off and on for ages without realising it had a name.
I am vegetarian (I eat fish) but I eat a lot of beans, lentils, soya etc. I have lost about 40lb in total but I still have more to go. I'm currently on day 4 of my fast I aim for 500-600 cals of protein then as much veg/salad and cups of tea as I like. I don't eat processed meals so I can't be sure on calories but I think over all it's about 800 cals a day. I have been eating the odd ice lolly as a treat but I'm going to go non sugar too after reading some info on here.
With this plan can you drink caffeine and diet drinks?
Any tips?

notsoold Mon 27-Jun-16 14:20:08

Finished my first week and still without means of cooking so will keep the shakes for now. I also bought the atkins shakes as suggested (thank you!!!).
I am consuming the veggies but not luck inthe bathroom department even though I drink about 3 litres of water per day.
Will try to measure my waist today but not so bloated.
Here is to week 2

notsoold Mon 27-Jun-16 14:30:46

I still have not exercised ....unless you count 2 children under the age of 3....

thenewaveragebear1983 Mon 27-Jun-16 14:59:25

Welcome that's! I think you can have diet drinks although it might be easier if you wean off them so you curb your sweet cravings. You can have caffeinated drinks but count the milk calories! My only tip would be to incorporate some good fats rather than just protein, 500 cals protein is a lot and if you include things such as full fat Greek yoghurt or olive oil you will possibly find that it keeps you going better than pure protein. Have I read somewhere that there is a maximum protein your body can use in a day? I have 70g in my mind somehow but not sure where I have heard this so might not be true. Good luck any way, there's lots of info on these threads now and feel free to ask if you need advice!

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