hi all
just thought that i would let you know the outcome of my hospital visit yesterday. Basically she said the chances of me getting pregnant on my own were vitually nil as it seems that i might only ovulate from the side the tube was taken from so she has put us on the list for ivf as it is our only hope but she said that she thinks that we might actually get 2 free goes rather than 1. It really spoiled my mood even though i knew she was going to say that it really upset me and as it was my little boys birthday i really had to try to keep myself upbeat as had loads of people in and out. Seems ironic the day i gave birth is also the day i find out i cant basically have kids what a day. Im not sure if im going to do the ivf as i not sure i can cope with it all after everything i dont think i can handle anymore disappointment but i have to go back in 6 weeks as i need to have 3 periods since the ectopic before they can refer me then they aim to see you within 18 weeks for the first ivf appointment. I wont be coming back on here as i think i would rather spend the rest of mylife never having children and getting on with my life rather than spend the rest of my life trying to have kids so i really wish the best of luck to those who are already pregnant and to those who are trying to get pregnant i also send you the best of luck.
heres to happy and healthy babies xxxxx

Sorry I've been away for so long. The pregnancy tiredness means I just don't have as much time for mumsnet at the moment. Just want to go to bed when I get home and have to force myself to stay up to eat and for my progesterone, which I have at 8:30.

Hi Rasmrra - welcome to the thread.

Hayzee - Glad you're feeling better physically. I hope you get some hope back on 22nd. Thinking of you.

ttcbby2 - September really doesn't seem that far away, bet it does to you though . Must be reassured to be passed the 28-week milestone though.

My morning sickness hasn't developed passed nausea so I seem to be getting off lightly. Had a scan on Wednesday. One baby, strong heartbeat, 11mm. Very relieved. Next scan is on 1st July.

Take care all and Nicci if you're still reading.

Hayzee, how old is your son?
I am 6 months a few weeks. Due Sept 7.
I wonder about Nicci too.
Issy, we need an update from you!
Rasmrra, have you gotten your results yet?

hi
im fine thanks got an infection after the surgery so on antibioics. Im feeling ok now not sore anymore. I got my appointment for the 22nd june (my little boys birthday) so until then i wont know what the next step is.
ttcbby2 how far along are you now?
wonder what happened to nicci she doesnt come on here anymore
issy how are you sorry about the morning sickness i hate being sick.

Hi Rasmrra,
Welcome!! Sorry you are having such a hard time getting pregnant. Do they know why you are not producing follies on your own? I can't believe after 150mg of Clomid you didn't have any follies. How are your side effects with 200mg? I have heard it makes you extremely cranky and crampy.
When did you get your trigger?

Issy, how are things with you? How is morning sickness? When can they do a u/s to see how many took?

Hayzee, how are you holding up?

I think about you all very often!!

Things are fine with me. I am trying to enjoy the pregnancy since it will probably be my last but I just get so anxious and want my due date here right now!!!

Hi All,

I am new to this website.
This is my cycle history
1st month : 50mg clomid no mature follicles
2nd 100mg clomid 18mm follicle, hcg trigger still no ovulation
3rd cycle 150mg clomid , no follicles at all
4th cycle,200mg clomid, one 18mm follicle at day16th. hcg trigger

and waiting to see the result this month..
My cycles are unusual I am worried.

My age is 24.

Hayzee - I've def read somewhere that the egg can somehow go from one ovary to the other tube, the body somehow compensates for the missing one. IVF price can vary with clinic, mine was not as much as £6000. Just trying to think:

Initial appointment £145
Pre-treatment scan £120
Drugs ~ £750
IVF - £2300
General anaesthetic - £220
Blast transfer - £350
Sperm - £600

So without sperm and blast total would be £3535. I got all my bloods done at my GP to save money as they were £25 each and GP did them free. And LondonLottie on the AC thread went to Norway and total cost including flights & accommodation was £4000. I know it's still a lot when your hubby's out of work, but about half what you thought. Also check out your PCT's rules as although most don't allow on NHS when you already have a child, they do vary and the fact that dh doesn't have a child may be enough to sway them.

Sending you more ((hugs)).

Hi ttcbby2, how are you doing?

I had my official BFP today. Still a long way to go, but fingers crossed Myfanwy and Idris make it to January. Morning sickness began last night and has lasted a lot of today too.

well the right tube was removed and whenever i took clomid the eggs were always on the right side and they said its like being sterilised on that side but they did say that they looked at my left tube and that looks perfectly healthy ive got an appointment with gynie in 6 wks. If i can still have children im not sure yet but it seemed strange them saying my left tube is ok as i have pcos surely they would have seen the cysts on them? The scan was awful they showed me the tube bulging with the baby in it, really its a good job i went that morning or it could have been more serious. Yes i have a little boy from a previous relationship but feel gutted that my hubby may never have a hild of his own he has adopted my son and says that it does not matter but i wish i could give him that one thing. I never knew that there was an increased rick of ectopic when you take clomid or i would never have taken it. I am now worse off. Ive been told ivf costs around £6000 and we havent got that sort of money as hubby lost his job at the beginning of the year.

Hayzee, I am so sorry!!! That is awful!! Please don't give up though. Do you have any children? Did they ever say what your fertility problem was? They said my eggs would never mature on their own.
Take it easy and get lots of rest!!!
Please keep us updated on yourself.

Oh Hayzee, I'm so, so sorry, but really relieved that it was discovered early and wasn't more serious for your health. Huge ((hugs)). Give yourself time to recover from this. Is your left side still OK? Even if not there's still IVF, it doesn't have to be the end of the road, though appreciate it will feel like it right now.

My temp is back up so it's/they are clinging on. Thank-you for your good wishes.

hi all
went to the hospital yesterday as was having a few pains and they gave me a scan and unfortunately the baby was ectopic they rushed me into theatre and had to remove my right tube with the baby so the end of the road for me. I have just got out of hospital and thought that id let you guys know.
issy good luck with your pregnancy i know what you have been through to get where you are so relax and take it easy thinking of you all.xx

should say diminishes

Thanks ttcbby2. My temp was down this morning so going out of my mind. Did another test and still BFP. Totally confused. Feeling very deja-vu as I had pretty much the same temperature last time I tested positive but then got AF next day. It's about half way between yesterday's temp and my coverline and it is my usual sign that I'll have an even lower temp and AF next day. Just really, really hoping it isn't this time. So much for my enjoying each day and not worrying about the next!

Hayzee - I think cp is horrible term. It makes it sound as though your body imagined the pregnancy and somehow dimishes the anguish it causes. A cp is just an early mc and I think that's what it should be called.

with my cp i didnt show on a test until was a week late then lost it about 5 days later. When i went for my scan 3 days into it they could not see anything so did bloods over 2 days and levels dropped was told i might of had cp but not totally sure.

Issy!! CONGRATS!!!! I am so excited for you.
Keep us posted!

Weird, MN seems to have eaten my post.

Thanks Hayzee. Great that you're feeling so positive about this pregnancy and that you're getting an early scan. Can't wait to get my 7-week scan. I thought a cp was an mc before 4 weeks, so you test +ve early but then mc and get AF when due. Have I got that wrong?

Sonographer couldn't see a sac yet at my scan today and my womb lining still only 8mm, but my ovaries are still very swollen and that is a pg sign, so I'm not going to worry too much. Have decided to just take this pg one day at a time and enjoy being pg each day without worrying about the next day.

issy that is wonderful news im so pleased for you i had a chemical pregnancy at between 5-6 weeks but i knew that there was something wrong as was in a lot of pain all the time but this time ive had a few little cramps but fine otherwise. Try to stay positive. I got my letter from the midwife today so i can make my appointment to see her and my dr is also making arrangements for me to have an early scan hopefully next week. Im being classed as high risk due to the fertility treatment etc but ive got a really good feeling this time. xxx

Yesterday, I had some spotting, so I used a cheapie test this morning so that I could be prepared for a scan I'm having later today giving me bad news (the scan is for a research project at my clinic) and all I got was an evap line. Knowing I would agonise over it, I used my last CB dig and I had to do a double-take because I got a BFP . Thank heavens for piap tests! It's obviously very early days (only 12 dpo) and I've previously tested positive the day before I got AF and also mc'd at 4w6days, so I'm being very cautious about it, but am currently very happy.

Thanks Hayzee. Have a picture of them in my gallery that the clinic sent me. I've restricted access but you should be able to see it - although I think I spelt your name with a capital H. I'm going to try really hard not to test early because my OTD is the day a girl in my office goes on maternity leave, so think it would be easier to test when I get home from work that day than to sit through her presentation either upset or bursting to tell people I'm next .

hi everyone
issy im keeping my fingers crossed for you. Do you think that you can wait until the 15th i was not supposed to test until the 30th april but me being me i done a test on the 27th with a test that picks it up 6 days before your period.
i finally got my bloods back and they made me have another as the hcg was low but when i went up there she realised it was low due to me not even missing a period but she made me done another just to make sure it was increasing which it was. I went to the drs on friday to book in with the midwife so they will call me when the time comes but i have asked for an early scan. No it has not sunk in yet i dont think it will until i have my scan but all of my family are over the moon.
ttcbby2 wishing you and your daughter all the best how has your pregnancy been

Just read yesterday's post - had double transfer in the end as turns out risk of triplets is only 1% and I was misinformed about success rates. If I'd only had single transfer would have been 45%, but double is 60%. Still feels a long way off a BFP, so I'll just have to keep hoping .

Have you come to terms with having a girl yet?

Hayzee - Has it sunk in for you yet?

Thanks ttcbby2, I can test on 15th but might wait an extra day as one of my colleagues is going on maternity leave that day and could be hard to deal with as I'll be emotional either way.

Oh how exciting!!!!! How long do you have to wait?

Phew!! They made it, well two anyway and they're now inside my womb. Fingers crossed!

Thanks ttcbby2. I was on a high yesterday with the relief that they had cleaved but today I'm getting anxious again about them making it to tomorrow. I'm only having one put back as the risk of twins is really high with blasts. There is also a higher risk of identical twins, so you could put two back and end up with triplets or even quads. As I'm doing this alone I really would prefer to have one at a time and triplets would bankrupt me, so just can't take that chance. Also the pregnancy success rates are similar whether you put one or two back.

Will be lovely to have a girl - think of how much easier the potty training will be . I'm sure you'll enjoy shopping for her once you start. Just don't get too much too soon as they can be wrong when they think it's a girl.

I'm concerned about Nicci too, but I guess she'll be back when she's ready.

Issy, I cannot imagine how you must feel. I thought the time I had to wait from intercourse till the time I could test was forever. I bet you are feeling every second of every minute. I will send good baby vibes your way!!
If all make it then how many will you get inserted? (not sure of the proper word for that) Is it up to you or your dr? I bet that is one hard decision to make...

Oh, by the way we are having a girl this time. I am both happy and sad. I have loads and loads of boy clothes and toys. I guess I will just have to get loads and loads of girlie things.

I sure wish we knew how Nicci was.

Hi all - even

i all - hope you are well. Has it sunk in yet Hayzee?

I had such a nerve-wracking morning waiting for the call to let me know if any of the eggs had become embies, but all 8 cleaved. 4 are doing really well, they are good or average and 6 to 8 cell as expected by the embryologist, 1 is going a little too fast and 3 a bit slow, but none are ruled out at this stage. Am so relieved, but have to keep my feet on the ground as there is still a chance that they won't make it until Saturday. Keep finding myself looking in the direction of the hospital and willing them to be OK.

thankyou all for your congratulations
ttcbby2 yes i would love twins and would be over the moon if there are 2 but if there is only 1 i dont mind just being pregnant in its self is the best news i feel like ive won the lotto lol.
issy i dont really know anything about what you are going through as not had the treatment but even if the 2-4 have made it its better than none so keep your fingers crossed. I am hoping that the call brings you really good news and that the rest of the treatment goes really well.

Hayzee this is excellent news!!! CONGRATS.
Do you want twins? I secretly did! I was a little upset that it was only one but oh well. I think you get what you are supposed to have.

Issy, thats bizarre. I cannot imagine how you must feel right now.

CoCo hang in there!!!

That's brilliant news Hayzee - congratulations .

My figures above were wrong, should have been 80% to be mature, 60% of those to fertilise and 90% of those to cleave and form embryos. Fortunately for me even though 8 were mature and they all fertilised. I'm now in very scary wait territory as the clinic recommended taking them to blastocyst and putting back on Saturday instead of today, so don't yet know if any of the fertilised eggs cleaved. They're having a quick look on Thursday and then not again until Saturday. So scared they won't have made it, but 2 to 4 should. Will feel much happier when I get the call tomorrow.

just my luck the machine at the hospital to do with the blood is broke so my results are still not back but i have done another test today and it is darker than yesterday so am def pregnant as it would get lighter and plus the injection would be def out of my system by now. We are so pleased now just wondering how many as there were 2 eggs but im not going to greedy 1 suits me just fine. i will check in on you all to see how you all are and to let you know how im getting on but im wishing you all the best of luck.xxx

hi the hospital said that my results were not back so they are going to let me know tomorrow, ive got a funny feeling that they have been lost as it does not usually take this long.

issy that is great news how did it go?

coco im sorry af arrived but dont give up hope.

Hayzee - responded to your post about 10 mins ago and seems to have disappeared. Congratulations . Hcg always left my system after 10 days, so I'm sure your blood test will be fine, but keep us posted.

Sorry AF got you Coco.

I got 12 eggs and they expect 80% to fertilse and 60% of those to cleave, so should have 5 or 6 embies. Fingers crossed for that call tomorrow.

hi everyone how r u all going. Hayzee thats great news - If so, I wish u best of luck.
Izzy best of luck and ttcbaby thank u for ur information.. hope u are doing well??

Well ... an update on myself... I had the hcg shot for the 1st time along withmy half tablet of clomid this cycly.. unfortunatly no luck. I got my period a few days ago.
I had high hopes this month beause there were 2 eggs.. plus the HCG shot I thought things would go ahead... oh well. There is another month to keep trying I guess.
Spoke with my specialist today.. he said that we started with one egg 1st cycle, 2nd cyce there were 2.. he said that it may be that my body needs to get used to clomid as it probably is as eggs are increasing before something happens. He did say that considering my age there shouldn't be a problem and that its just patience and by body getting used to this "newness..".
I hope he is right.

I will keep you all posted.. thank you for this comforting forum once again.. this is great. take care all and best wished xoxo

CoCo

just a quick update i phoned the hospital and she said that the injection would have left my system by now so im def pregnant. I had to go and have a blood test and i will get the results tomorrow so not going to get my hopes up just incase it is on the off chance the injection.

Issy how did the egg collection go ive got my fingers crossed for you

nicci where are you

i am 12dpo and just done a test and it was positive i had my hcg 13 days ago do u think it would still be in my system

issy wishing you the best of luck for monday i hope it all goes well for you. im currently 10 dpo and have been getting cramps on and off since yesterday surely its too early for my period? well if nothing happens i will do my test on thursday. Lets hope we all have some good news to post in the next few weeks

Oops lost the thread for a while there, it's disappeared from my watched list. Just wanted to let you know that I'm having egg collection on Monday. Hope you're all well.

Coco, this was my first trigger shot ever. TTC for a little over 6 months with this pregnancy. It was 2 years with my last pregnancy. Clomid alone just didn't work. I was never offered a trigger shot with my last pregnancy. And actually it was when I came off all meds and gave up that I gave pregnant with my DS. This time around I knew what to expect and we started early. I really think the trigger and cough syrup made a difference. But I will never know.
I also had CM up until about a week after i found out i was prego.

just wrote a post and it's disappeared.

Coco - you're fine, sperm survives for 2-5 days, so you've covered the bases. Best thing to do now is stop stressing and try to relax. hcg trigger will give you early pg symptoms (including cm) for until about 8 dpo, so ignore them all.

ttcbby2 - cough syrup mentioned on lots of threads.

hayzee - thanks for good wishes. Hope you have some energy left after your week of baby-making .

nicci - where are you?

My scan was OK so started stimming yesterday. Next scan and bloods Monday. Grow follies grow

hi all
welcome coco to our thread seems like you covered the times to me the hospital always advise me to have intercourse on the day of the injection the next night and the night after and then go back to 2-3 times a week.
issy good luck with your treatment keeping my fingers crossed that it will work.
im getting a little worried about nicci she has not been on here for a while now lets hope no news is good news but it is so unlike her.

ohh I almost forgot... also, I still have CM hanging aroiund..? Doesn't the CM die down and go away after ovulation..? Especially just over a week before my expected period..? thanks ladies.....

Hello Ladies and thank you so much for your reply's. I love this forum. So Helpful and Its a place where you can FINALLY talk to people with the same problem. God Bless You all. xox

Its now 10 days before my "expected" period. Usually 7-10 daysbefore I start feeling menstral symptoms, boobs crams eTC - BUT i'm not feeling anything now. Maybe the trigger shot changed things around this month..? I dont know I'll have to wait and see... but I'll keep you posted.

BTW, If the egg is released about 36hrs after trigger of HCG,(given on the 9th @ 11AM..) the day I skipped trying (the 11th), would mean the egg was probably released then..?. Im worred maybe I missed my day??

I did try though on 12th however, that would mean about 12-24 hrs after the release of the egg @ 36ish hours?? Im I on the right trck with my INFO??? Im trying to understand how the dates times and cycles work.. I hope I'm getting a better understanding of everything... so confusing

Also, ttcbby2, congratulations and I hope everything goes well for you throughout the pregnancy and after... do you mind me asking.. was this your 1st HCG shot this month? And how long have you been TTC for before it finally worked for you?

Thank you and Best wishes to you all!
xoxoxo
CoCo

Coco, welcome to the thread and good luck! I think Issy covered it. I had intercourse the night before my trigger shot, the night of and the night after. I also did several doses of Guaifenesin. I am not sure if you ladies are familiar with it. Its a cough syrup, pretty popular here in the US. It thins mucus. It supposedly helps woman conceive because there is mucus on the uterus and some woman have too much or its too thick. By thinning it out the implanted egg attaches to the wall more easily.
Not sure if it really helped me or not but I sure did try it and I am pregnant now so who knows. It could have been the Clomid, the trigger, the cough meds or just my time to get prego.

Issy, I am very happy I never had to do that. I am a chicken when it comes to pain.
I really hope this works for you. It sounds like a lot of work! But worth it!
I am feeling much better! Thanks for asking!!

Hi Coco - welcome to the thread. Sorry you had mc . Quick reply as working late - you should ovulate 36 hours after trigger. Egg hangs around for 6-12 hours or 12-24 hours, depending upon which source you read and according to great sperm race it takes 14 hours for sperm to reach egg, so I think you have it covered.

ttcbby2 - this is my first IVF - all new to me. Injections are a little uncomfortable (rather than painful) to administer and area goes a little red for about 30 mins. I think the next bit, which I'll hopefully start tomorrow is when ovaries swell up and get sore. Egg collection is done under sedation or GA but apparently you feel sore afterwards and embryo transfer is just like IUI so not too bad. It'll all be worth it if it works.

Hope you're all well.

Hello Ladies... I've just joined on here and this topic is what I need aid in.. please help.

I am a 24yo, with a 3 year on son. My husband and I have been TTC for 1 year now. 1.5 years ago I miscarried at 6 weeks. TTC for one year now. I get my period each month, everfy 31 days, one time, every time. Very healthy, so is hubby. I have been classified as "unexplained" - my son was born within 2 months of trying naturally.

My Doc has put me on CLOMID 25mg for 2 cycles. This 2nd cycle he has triggered me with a HCG shot after having seen 2 ripe and ready eggs at 21mm each. I was just wondering - when was the time frame to try (intercourse) after having the trigger shot? When would my fertile time have been? We tried on day of shot, day after, skipped third day, then again tried on 4th and 5th days after the HCG Trigger shot. Does the shot, with 2 eggs around, increase my chances this month? And did i try at my fertile peak? Unsure... please help with information.

Thank you,

CoCo.

Hayzee those are excellent follies!! Mine never got that large before!!! Good for you!
Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Issy, here is to hoping your eggs are good! I have a feeling they will be! How many times have you done this procedure now? Is it painful?

Great news Hayzee. Fingers crossed for you.

good news had my scan today and had 2 eggs on my right ovary one was 16.8 and the other was 18.9 and my lining was 9.3 so she gave me the injection. I wont be on foe the next few days as going to visit husbands family till thursday.
wheres nicci i hope she is ok she hasnt been on for a few weeks hope everyone else is ok and keeping my fingers crossed for you all. xxx

Hi, I'm still here too. Was away for a week in the Lakes and have been struggling to keep up with posting since - and this thread's been so quiet I missed that there were new posts. Getting a little worried about Nicci now, where has she gone? Hope it's good news.

Good luck for tomorrow Hayzee.

Hope you feel better soon ttcbby2.

I have my downreg scan on Thursday. Just got AF today so breathing a sigh of relief otherwise would have had to cancel scan and egg collection would have moved back at least a week. Just hope Thursday confirms that I'm OK to start stims then. I have a friend coming up from Brighton to be with me and she's just given up her job (as a nurse) so is temporarily signing on. As it stands EC is due in the week she doesn't have to be in Brighton. Otherwise I have a friend from work who is going to nip out for an hour to pick me up and drive me home and my ex is going to stay overnight, but I wouldn't have the full 24-hrs covered. Clinic hasn't actually told me I need someone there for 24-hrs yet, but I've read it elsewhere. It's so difficult when you don't know the exact day. It's just not practical for any of my friends to take two days off at such short notice. Hopefully I will be a textbook case and EC will go ahead w/c 27th as planned. Getting quite nervous about everything that could go wrong now, but trying to see the positive side. If my eggs are no good or there are none in the follicles, I can get on egg donor waiting list and will have two years to find a man before I reach the top of the list . Can't see a positive side to having to abandon before EC though, so really praying that doesn't happen.

Please come back Nicci and let us know how are you are.

Hi Hayzee! I am still here. I check back a few times a day waiting on you other ladies to join me in the 9 month wait. I was hoping Nicci would have said something by now. Perhaps its good that she hasn't said anything. Good luck on your scan and let us know. I have a really bad cold right now. Nothing is worse that being sick than being sick while pregnant! UGH. Its going on 7 days. Every night I say hopefully tomorrow is a better day but it hasn't happened yet.
On a good note the baby moves a lot now. Takes my mind off things!

where has everyone gone

ive got my scan booked for tuesday morning so will let you know how i get on

nicci where are you n what is happening.
just to let you know i have started the clomid again this morning hope you are all ok xxx

nicci that is brilliant news im so excited and pleased for you please keep us updated.
issy how are you
sorry have not been on just waiting for my period to arrive after a clomid/hcg free cycle. My periods are usually without the clomid 35-42 days but as yet on day 46 and no sign of period or pregnancy. Im never late but think that maybe joining the gym even though i only do up to 3 hrs a week has delayed it or it could be that not having the meds has messed me up.
getting a bit fed up with it all.
xxx

Nicci this is GREAT news!!!!!! Keep us posted!

Wow, that's exciting Nicci. Keeping my fingers crossed for you. Can you get some bloods done to confirm?

I signed my consents and picked up the drugs today. So much information to take in - hope I remember everything. Start downregging on 2nd and have first scan on 16th, then all being well EC around 29th April.

Hope everyone is well. Take care.

Well, firstly welcome sgibbo!
My news is, that having completed a clomid/hcg free cycle, i got faint BFP! Got this on sunday last week? 12 dpo. Only thing is, it's not any darker yet (now ?16dpo) so slightly bummed, but faint line still there and no AF so not out just yet! please pray 4 me. xxx

Nicci - you can't write a post like that! What's your news?

Welcome sgibbo - you should ov 36 hours after the injection and then would get AF around 14 days after ov but it can vary. Good luck.

Hi I hope you don't mind me joining your conversation?

I am currently on my first cycle of Clomide, FSH injections and have had my HCG injection. I managed to have one follice at 19mm, my nurse said to contact her two weeks after the hcg and i will either have my period or i won't. today is the last day of my two weeks and no sign yet of my period.

I tested three days ago and it was negative how long should i wait before i test again? Should i take the result from three days ago as a def no?

Hopefulnicci - hope your news is good news?

where is everyone????? i have news!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hi all sorry not been on. just waiting for my period to arrive so i can start my clomid as did not take it last month due to hubby working away. How are the rest of you hope you are all well speak to you soon xxx

Sorry not been on. This running lark is taking over my evening 3 mights a week and reducing my net time.

How are you now Nicci? I had spotting for about 8 days after my HyCosy and got weird spotting three weeks into my next cycle too with proper AF two weeks later.

Hayzee any news?

Hi Issy, yeh HSG wasn't to bad thanks for asking-tubes are clear. Didn't feel too clever a few hours later though!! And got terrible trapped wind (in my shoulder-ouch). I must say i'm glad it's over. I'm cd 17 today 4 days since hsg and i'm still spotting! so no bedding yet and luckily still showing as low on CBFM. Consultant is giving me 3 more months on clomid, then onto IUI. Shocked really as in total i've had clomid on & off for over 12 months, he wants to scan me nxt cycle though which hasn't been the case for the last 3 months (makes me feel like the last 3 clomid cycles were a waste of time, & maybe they were just too understaffed to scan me then-don't know if u remember me saying my consultant got suspended, which put a halt to all treatment). Oh well, rambling now, least i get scanned nxt clomid cycle (though god knows when that'll be cause my periods only came on time thanks to clomid and i've not taken it this cycle! Hope i'm not waiting too long.
What news have u? It's been a week since anyone logged on!! X

Hi Nicci - how did the HSG go?

Hello to everyone else.

hi everyone
sorry i havent been on my comp is up the wall had to let brother-in-law take it to sort out and he only brought it back today. Im on a clomid free cycle this month so i wont really have much to report but will still check in to find out how you are all doing. xxx

Hi ttcbby2 lovely to hear from you and thanks for your good wishes. Nice to know you're checking in on us. Glad you're having a good pregnancy.

Nicci - sorry you're having a confusing AF. Are you temping? Just clutching at straws and not wanting to get your hopes up but wondering if you might be pg and having implantation bleeding not period. If there's any chance you should check before your HSG next week as you can't have it if you are. Good luck on Tuesday - be thinking of you.

How are you doing Hayzee?

Hi Nicci!
I am here. I read up on you all every few days! I am praying real hard you guys get your BFP soon.
This pregnancy is so much diff than my last! I am not sick nearly as much and I feel so much better. Thank God because I don't know how I would do it and chase around a 2 year old all day!
Keep on trying ladies! Talk to you all soon!

I've had the most bizarre period this month. Finished on cd 5 then nothing till last night when it was back again on wiping b4 i went to bed. So i put a tampon in, & this morning it was clear?! mild brown spotting at times today (cd8) normally only have 3 day AF. All sorts of sharp twinges felt too, & i've had a headache fo rthe last 4 days-my hormones must be up the wall!!!!
Issy i think it's gr8 ur involved in the trial, the more scans the better as far as i'm concerned. ur post was really interesting.
Hayzee, where r u?
Where's everyone else gone 2? X

Hi Nicci. Thanks for asking. Have to wait 7 working days for results, but consultant seemed positive. I've signed up for a research project which means I'll have lots of extra scans and bloods (day 2-5, day 12-14, day 19-21, day of trigger, at egg collection, 7 days after embryo transfer) but nice to put something back, half of them done anyway and will also get scanned every 4 weeks from 12 weeks if get pg, which feels really reassuring. Longest gap would be from 7 week confirmation scan to 12 week one. The research is about blood flow to womb pre-pregnancy as indicator of poor nutrition from placenta to baby and I was one of those babies - mild case - was 5lb5oz @ 3 days late. Also means I'm not doing nothing in this long wait to start injecting in April. Unfortunately they haven't had a cancellation.
Hope you're OK.

Issy how did ur scan go? what was involved? whats the plan now? x

Hayzee - how sweet and romantic - hope it went well.

Nicci - glad you had a lovely evening, enjoy your birthday meal tonight.

My AF finally put in an appearance yesterday afternoon, so I have my AFC scan next week. Not quite sure when as the clinic rang to say they can't do the appointment they gave me and offered me 4 alternatives, but when I rang back there was no answer so left message saying I'd turn up at the first of the 4 (tomorrow 11:30) unless I hear otherwise. Will call first in morning to double check.

I wouldn't call myself fit - I have to do the first session of the second week later and am dreading having to run for two minutes at a time. I went to our new local goth night last night. Was really nice as no Valentine's theme whatsoever, but I was a bit naughty and stayed at my ex's afterwards. Life would be so much less complicated if you could choose who you fall in love with, but then I wouldn't choose him and he would choose me, so it still wouldn't work .

Sorry Hayzee bout AF but in the same way, glad ur not in limbo for the nxt 8 weeks waiting for it to arrive! Has it found u yet issy? I'm not on clomid/hcg this month either!! HSG booked for 24th Feb (CD 13) so no valentines bd'ing for dh!! here's hoping we can BD after that in time for ovulation (got a smear booked for 25th too! yuk) went out for dinner last night & the cinema, saw, he's not that into u! sweet film, even dh enjoyed! hope u had a lovely evening girlies. Out for family birthday meal today (my mums, got my middle brother down with us-he lives in london) Enjoy the rest of the weekend

well your more fit than me issy. Anyone got any plans for tonite, im cooking hubby a candlelit dinner for 2 at home then after im taking him on a trip to the london eye and its all a surprise. Hope you all have a good nite/weekend. xxx

Hayzee - you got AF in the not being pg sense, but really glad she arrived of her own accord for you and your body is working properly again IYSWIM.

Mine is dragging her heals, had some colour this morning but hasn't got any heavier, so presume will be here tomorrow. Need to do my third run (well mainly walking at this stage) of the week tonight so best get off home now - just on at work whilst waiting for the traffic to clear.

How's everyone else?

hi started bleeding his morning quite heavy. But i know this is going to sound really weird but im glad i got my period for the fact that at least i got it as you know b4 i had 2 take provera and after that i had to wait 2 months so at least it is all working. I wont be taking clomid this month as hubby is working away but will still come on here to see how you are all doing. xxx

you got BFN Hayzee, but increased CM is a pg symptom, so really hope that's the reason AF staying away. Keeping those fingers tightly crossed.

Mine not arrived either, but temp still low and have that wanting to burst into tears for no reason feeling so sure she's on her way.

well im sorry to hear that your bleeding nicci but think i might be joining you soon. I done another test this morning using first response and it was neg, been getting cramps pretty much all day cm very increased have to wear panty liner yuk, so just waiting for my period to arrive.

Nicci. Really, really sorry AF got you.

Hope AF is staying away for the right reasons this time Hayzee. Fingers crossed you get that BFP soon.

My temp dropped to coverline today too, so probably getting AF tomorrow. I wasn't expecting anything this month though. Trying to focus on my aim of getting fit before IVF instead. Have done two sessions of the couch to 5K programme so far (running from the back of my house to the front and back again), but got my new treadmill this morning, so can do it properly from now on.

bleeding

Just to update. My temp dropped drastically to coverline today 13 dpo, so guess i'm out, just gotta wait for rotten AF. Guess i'll be needing that hsg afterall

no i done another test this afternoon and it was - but had no af cramps, and my boobs are still tender but just have to wait and see what happens im on cd 28 but not sure if i have to go by period 14 days after jab or by the way my periods were b4 the clomid as ive never had a proper period since starting the clomid (1st go had to take provera and b4 that my period went from 8th nov - 13 jan).
issy thanks 4 the hug makes you feel good talking to people who actually understand people just say never mind theres always next month grrrrrr.
nicci hopefully thats a good sign if your never this moody b4 a period im like a bear with a sore head usually.
xxx

I can go to bed overnight just have to get up in a crisis or if anyones ill! Got AF cramps this afternoon and temp dropped slightly today too! Anything come of ur cramps yet Hayzee? hope not. Issy anything going on ur end?? I have been SO incredibly moody today, anyone that's come within 5 inches of me has had there head bitten off, i've never felt like this before, i feel like i'm going insane!

thats all you need when u have done a 24hr shift is someone shouting at you. Hope you managed to get lots of sleep.

(((Hug))) both. Sorry you got BFNs but it is still early, so don't give up hope.

24-hour shift Nicci, crikey! Amazed you could stay awake that long. Surely that's against H&S regs. Sorry your boss shouted at you.

Don't feel down Hayzee, i did one today too at 11dpo and it's BFN too. Everyones different though & u've already said urself u don't show up till ur a week late. Keep ur chin up! Nothing much to report my end. Other than i just finished a busy 24hr shift to be shouted at by my boss in the 24th hour! last thing i needed! X

just a quick update i couldnt wait naughty i know but i done a test and it came back - so looks like im out for this month. im 13 dpo. Wont be taking clomid next month as hubby is working away so no point wasting it. I will do another test on sat as by my period and not the hosp 14 days after ovualtion im due on well between 14-21. I know i might have done it too early and so it might not show up but cant help feeling that it hasnt worked. The hosp have told me not to do one till thursday so will test maybe then but getting fed up of seeing neg. Sorry i know i feeling sorry for myself but on a bit of a downer today.

yeah lets hope so. The cramps have stopped now, although my boobs are still quite tender although this does happen occasionally before a period so will just have to wait and see. How are you all doing nicci any more symptoms yet?

Fingers crossed that they're implantation cramps and not period ones Hayzee.

well not sure whats going on but since last night ive been getting cramps a bit like period ones so not sure if im going to get my period or not, im 12 dpo

hi going 2 test next week as not due my period yet and dont show until usually week late so there aint no point. My boobs are quite tender but i do get that when im due a period my cm is normal so just have to wait and see.

I'm not testing Hayzee because I have more chance of winning the lottery than being pg from one BD using withdrawal method even if it was on the right day . I'm not even temping - just did the week of ov to know when to expect AF and will start again Monday to see drop.

I didn't have any cramps when I was pg nicci, so don't worry. The last cycle (without clomid or trigger) I had quite thick, white cm during the first week after ov but then thins out to more watery consistency and less and less of it until AF arrives. That's what I seem to have again this time. When I was pg last time, AF was due at weekend and had the really thick CM from the Wednesday before.

I STILL DON'T HAVE ANY CRAMPS! MAYBE VERY VERY MILD ONES FOR A SHORT WHILE TODAY IF I THINK ABOUT IT REALLY HARD!! STILL GOT THE OCCASSIONAL SHOTTING PAINS IN BOOBS ANYONE ELSE GOT THAT? HAYZEE/ISSY WITHOUT GROSSING YOU OUT TOO MUCH WHAT'S UR CM LIKE? OPPS JUST REALISED I'M IN CAP LOCKS! hAYZEE YOU MUST BE CLOSE TO TESTING RIGHT? HOW MANY DAYS NOW SINCE UR SHOT? MUST BE OUT OF UR SYSTEM BY NOW X

we wont abandon you dont worry lol. how is everyone doing anyone got any more symptoms? when are you going to test?

Great news ttcbby2, that must have been so reassuring to see. Hope the other thing goes away for you.

Fingers crossed for you nicci and hayzee, but don't abandon me when you get those BFPs .

hi
im so glad that your scan went really well and you could see the baby i bet that yourso relieved.
nicci it sounds like a really good sign for you am keeping my fingers crossed for you.
my cramps are quite strange i seem to mainly get them in the evening but other than that no other symptoms.
Lets hope that we will all be leaving this thread and starting another about our pregnancys xxx

Oh Ttcbby too i'm so pleased to here that ur scan showed a happy little buba with a heartbeat thats fantastic. Wonder what that other thing is?? i'm so excited that u got this snot like cm, maybe it's a really early sign for me!! Nothing much else to report my end, sharp twinges felt on & off in uterine area and in boobs at times too! no cramps though!! Anyone else?

Hi Ladies! My scan went perfect! There was a squirmy baby bouncing around with a hb of 166. I couldn't be happier to see that. Now the other news. There is something else in there. Some kind of growth or something. Going for an ultra sensitive U/S on March 3rd. Dr isn't worried so I am not either!

Nicci, I also had that snot like CM before i got my BFP! I was like WOAH thats some strange stuff. I don't remember it with my previous pregnancy probably because I wasn't clocking it like I did this one. I also had cramping and i also spotted for a few hours.

I hope this is really good news for you ladies!!
I am going to be checking on you all very often!!!

Oh sounds good hayzee.

Any news ttcbby2?

How's everyone else doing (moo, pinkmook?)

hi all
no never had snot like cm so hopefully it is a good sign for you. The cramps have eased but yesterday my left nipple felt like it was on fire not sure if its anything to do with it or if it was just irritated, other than that nothing else to report just going to wait until next week.xxx

Hi Nicci - never experienced snot-like sorry. When I was pg last March, I had lots of thick cm which had a slight yellow/green tinge to it about 3 days before I got my BFP though, so could be a good sign. Fingers crossed.

Hope scan went well ttcbby2.

How are those cramps Hayzee?

Well no cramps for me yet but, (BEWARE THIS IS WAY TMI!) i've had some seriously snot like cm! has anyone here ever experienced that around 5 dpo? What's ur experiences Hayzee/Issy/ttcbby2?
What news have you ttcbby, how was ur scan? X

Ohh how exciting keep me posted u 2! XxX

You could be right. Some of the BFPs on the September thread were people who'd hardly bd'd that month because they had flu. Let's hope it worked in your favour too.

well i read some where that if you have a cold or are run down when ovulating/implanting then you have more chance of the egg sticking as usually your body treats it as a foreign object in your body and so your antibodies attack it but if you are run down or ill it does not. Dont know how true this is. Hopefully its a good sign these cramps but will just have to wait and see i dont want to get my hopes up will have to wait 11 more days and then do a test.
Well seems all 3 of us are on track with eeach other maybe its a sign. xxx

Fingers crossed it's a good sign for you hayzee. Glad you're feeling better.

I'm right with you nicci also ov'd around Thursday. FF says Thursday according to OPK (I only did one though), Friday according to temp but I think Wed.

Good luck both and good luck for the scan on Tuesday ttcbby2. xxx

as far as i know it's a really good sign hayzee. My other friend hannah (remember me saying 2 of my friends were newly pregnant!) got cramps from 5 dpo (just like period pains) and a BFP at 8dpo!!!!! i can't wait till tues in the hope that i feel those cramps too!! Ovualtion confirmed on FF on thurs so i'm 3 dpo today just behing you. Glad ur feeling better now.

hi all hope u all had a good weekend im feeling so much better i can actually breathe through my nose once again. Is it usual to still get the odd cramp this many days after ovulation they feel like really mild period pains that come and go?

hi nicci
well had the jab on monday so ovulated on tuesday yeah i have had cramps since tuesday but they are wearing off a bit now. Ive got a cold again so feel like rubbish and i dont wanna take anything just incase.

Hi you all! loved reading everyones posts, u all seem fairly upbeat despite our struggles ttc. Ttcbby2 try not to worry, my friend had the same thing last week, and went back monday (1 week later) and all was ok! Hayzee when did you ovulate? i think i only ovulated yesterday, was so bloted crampy and uncomfortable all day! do u get that? temp went up this am. Here's hoping. Spk soon. X

I forgot to say, my 'other option' didn't happen. Ex came round this evening to discuss possibly helping me out, but he decided he couldn't go through with it . Knew it was a lot to ask but he sounded quite positive when we spoke on the phone on Monday so was hoping he may have gone for it.

Hayzee and Nicci - wouldn't it be great if you both got BFPs on same day .

ttcbby2 - glad you're managing to stay fairly calm about it. Good luck for Tuesday. be thinking of you.

Hi All, had my 1st U/S yesterday 7 weeks. No heart beat or if there was we couldn't get a good pic of it. There was something in the way. Dr kept calling it an artifact. She said it could be a growth or a cyst or a sac thats become dislodged. As far as she could tell there was only 1 sac. It did measure 7 weeks so she isn't worried that we didn't see a H/B. Plus i have had such horrible morning sickness that i am pretty sure things are ok in there. I will go back on Tuesday for a rescan just to make sure. I think after that i will be much more relaxed!!
Talk to you all then!!
Good luck everyone!

nicci thats great that we are exactly on track with each other we will have to definately keep each other updated this cycle maybe its a good sign you never know. We can keep our fingers crossed but not our legs as that would be no good lol.xxx

Issy42

Would like to wish you the very best of luck to your with your forthcoming fertility treatment.

Attila

Hi Nicci and Hayzee - brilliant news. Let's hope this is your lucky month. Today was fine except have to wait for my IVF, which was rather disappointing. Have antral follicle count scan next period and then they are full to start down regging in February so can't start until March. Now debating whether to have more IUI whilst I'm waiting. Also might have another option which I'll keep to myself for now as won't know until later in the week and don't want to jinx it.

Attila - I don't have an underlying fertility problem - apart from the lack of sperm. FSH:LH ratio is only considered an issue if it's greater than 2.5. My results are very good for my age.

Issy42

Am wondering if you've ever been given a diagnosis of the underlying fertility problem.

Has your LH level been consistently higher than that of FSH?. Both of these should in any case be compared against each other, not just looked at separately (because they can appear okay if only looked at individually).

Attila

Wow Hayzee that's fabulous!! i'm getting my shot today 2!!! so we're back on track together as we were at the beginning of this thread. HSG cancelled by the way. Keep in touch hayzee whilst we journey together good luck tomorrow Issy X

issy good luck at the clinic lets hope that you dont have to wait too long for your treatment.
i got some fantastic news at the scan im on day 13 and i had a follicle measuring at 20mm which is great last time on day 17 it was only 17mm so i had my jab done. Im just glad that its worked as if it hadnt then that would of been the end of the clomid i feel more of a woman as my body is doing what its supposed to even if i need a little help.

issy good luck at the clinic lets hope that you dont have to wait too long for your treatment.
i got some fantastic news at the scan im on day 13 and i had a follicle measuring at 20mm which is great last time on day 17 it was only 17mm so i had my jab done. Im just glad that its worked as if it hadnt then that would of been the end of the clomid i feel more of a woman as my body is doing what its supposed to even if i need a little help.

Hi girls. Been away since Thursday so not been on. Nicci - agree with Hayzee - move the hsg to next month, but looks like you've already decided that anyway. Hopefully you won't need it.

Good luck for tomorrow Hayzee .

Pinkmook - I've just started a new thread with reference levels for blood tests that came with my results, which may be useful for you.

My results were OK, LH was 5.9 and FSH 4.9, nearly same as 18-months ago. Negative for HIV & Hep B/C. Full blood count came back with one low result though, for neutrophil count - was only 0.1 below norm though, so hope just because I had a cold. First appointment at the IVF clinic tomorrow. Will be nice too get an idea of timescales. Really hope I don't have to wait too long for treatment.

Thanks Hayzee, your message just 2nd what i've been feeling these last couple of days. Will cancel HSG and try again nxt month. Besides we BD last night (First time in weeks as we were told not to bd either). I've a good feeling about this month, maybe i won't need it afterall. lets hope the feeling proves me right. As i've mentioned b4 my 2 closest friends are pregnant now 6 weeeks & i'm finding that hard already!! Best of luck with scan tomorrow, can't wait to hear ur update. X

hi nicci i know how you feel the first time i had my appointment for my hsg they refused to do it as i had sex just after my period even though they made me do a test which was neg. Their reason for it was that if you get pregnant then it can seriously damage the baby. My advice would be that as this is your last prescription for clomid i would cancel the hsg you can always have it done next month but you cant take the clomid next month. If you did get pregnant this month and went ahead with the hsg and something bad happened you would never forgive yourself and its not worth the risk. I wasnt even allowed to have sex leading up to the hsg just in case you get pregnant and you dont know. Hope you are otherwise ok ill let you know how my scan goes on monday xxxx.

Oh my ttc is said to try us!!!
As you all know i'm supposedly due my HSG on tues nxt week CD 16 (they had to sqeeze me in as previous week was full up) now normally that wouldn't have been a problem, i normally only ovulate around CD19. but, for some god damn reason i've just got a high reading on my CBFM CD12 which would indicate that i'm gonna get a peak on CD14. What the hell am i to do. I call my obs office and left a message and she returned my call to simply say 'well you won't conceive this cycle then if u want it done you must obstain from intercourse till after sorry' how unhelpful is that. If that's the case i've taken clomid 4 nothing! i've a good mind to just BD i've read some posts where women weren't told not to bd before or after HSG, although the majority oif themn were having it done on CD7-9 so way off ovulation. What do u guys think i should do? shall i just forget it this month and book it for feb on a cycle i don't do clomid? (i haven't got a repeat prescription so this was my last lot of clomid! please help i'm lost & my Obs secretary finished at 1pm today so i've no one else to ask

Hayzee

Good luck for Monday my fingers are crossed for you.

Moo xxx

hi all
ive got my scan booked for 1st thing monday morning so just hoping that the tabs are working this time or will have to try the iui ill keep you updated.
nicci good luck for your hsg xx

Hi All

Don't know how but I have managed to forget where I am in my cycle!?! This is the first time in over 3 years that I don't know what day I am on lol, perhaps it's a good thing?? Am really excited at the min coz I'm getting my house done up (at long last) so my mind is on other things at the moment other than BDing lol. Lets see if the "stop trying and it will happen" method works, have to say I'm doubtful though. So far this year has been soooooooo much better than last year so hopefully things are looking up. How is everyone and where are you all up to, I haven't posted much recently but I do still lurk and see how everyone is

Babydust for everyone

Moo xxx

Thanks Issy, I managed to email them and they sid any tests done in the last 12months they will use. However when I had my last app with the NHS I asked about this and they told me the clinic would have to request them I dont see why they couldn't just let me have them ... but anyway thats just me moaning!

Thnks for your help xx

Hi Nicci. I'm on day 4 now, hence bloods yesterday. Did I not say that AF arrived Saturday - must be on too many threads? So no symptom spotting for me this month - I hate not even being able to try. Hope your ov holds off until after the hsg. Did you find out how long after you have to wait before you can try?

Pinkmook - I would have thought your clinic would accept your NHS results. Mine sent me a letter asking me to bring copies of results of anything previously done. They also gave me a list of bloods, but the letter was worded that if I couldn't get them done locally, they could do them at a cost. I do know from reading the fertilityfriends.com thread for my clinic that they need them to be no more than 6 months old though, so I got my FSH and LH redone. You should check here - go to your geographical area and there will probably be an 'Anyone at ...' thread for your clinic. I outright asked on my clinic thread how much the treatment really costs and people didn't mind answering. Also my clinic website lists tests that are not on my letter. Try not to worry.

My pg friend has just given me the remaining Pregnacare conception tablets from the month she got pg - her lucky pack, so I'm going to take them around IVF time and hope they bring me luck.

Hi Guys thanks for the welcomes.

I have just recieved my info pack from the fertility clinic and I could really do with some advice/info if any one can help?

Basically it lists a load of tests and scans they require at your booking in app, but most of them I have just had done by the NHS. Do they generally make you repeat all these (and hence, pay for them) or will they accept/request them from the NHS if you tell them you've already had them recently? because they add upo to hundreds of pounds and it seems stupid when we have literally just had them done! I have tried to ring the clinic but its closed for the day and I am worrying about it!!

AAny help greatly appreciated xx

Issy you didn't update us on any symptom spotting aren't u about 12dpo now?? guess ur SO busy with everything else it's taking your mind off things which is good. Hope ur week goes well. Yeh my hsg is for 27th at 11am, just wanna get it over and done with now. Welcome newbies the more the merrier!! X

Welcome pinkmook. Both Ei and ttcbby2 popped in here and got BFPs that cycle so let's hope we're lucky for you too. The hcg trigger ripens the eggs and makes you ovulate - it's generally used for women who don't ov naturally or where treatment has to be timed. It's used in both IUI and IVF. My IVF consultation is 26th so we're about the same time.

I'm OK Moo. Busy week. Big day at work and bloods done today, in London tomorrow and grandma's funeral in Weston-super-Mare Thursday. Since I had to be away two nights anyway, so that I can visit my other grandmother in S Wales, decided to have a break in the Cotswolds for the weekend. Bit of R&R after the stress of funeral and hopefully stop me worrying about appointment on Monday.

Is your hsg around 28th Nicci? Big week for the thread.

How you feeling Hayzee. Cramps any better? How's your nan now?

Hi pinkmook and welcome, I'm on clomid for unexplained infertility but not the hcg trigger so I too am not sure what that is. Ooooooh your IVF starts really soon, my fingers are crossed already for you. Lets hope you bring some more good news to this thread

How is everyone??

Moo xxx

Hello all _ just thought I'd introduce myself as Issy42 tempted me over with promises of this being a lucky thread! grin So I am here to probably prove that I can break a lucky charm I am so unlucky! LOL!

I have taken my first round of clomid this month (50mg) and am currently on the 2WW (4dpo) I am taking Clomid for male issue infertility before going for the full on IUI/IVF route (app booked for 27th Jan eek!)

Hope no one minds me jumping in on here also I am not sure whatn the hcg trigger shot is? I have just been given clomid...what is the hcg shot for? (sorry for being slow!)

Hi Hayzee. Sending you a virtual hot, milky drink and hot water bottle.

god this period is making up the ones that i missed its agony. Havent had any side effects as yet last time i took it i didnt get any and it didnt work.
ive had the hsg done and everyone told me it was really painful etc well i got myself in such a state but it was slightly more uncomfortable than a smear test. I did spot for a day or two but other than that i was fine.

Hi girls. I'm out again. Low temp (ish - a cold is keeping it just above the coverline) and spotting today. Expecting full AF later. Managed to get the doctor to squeeze me in for bloods on Monday for the new clinic so really hoping I don't have HIV, hepB/C and my FSH & LH are still OK nearly two years since I first had them done. Also having blood count done - not sure what that is, might have to google .

Glad you're getting your hsg done Nicci. I had HyCoSy and wasn't bding anyway so I'm afraid I can't help much. It did mess up my cycles for two months though. Although I have heard that the tubes get 'cleared' from the process and some people conceive right after - not sure if same applies to hsg.

ttcbby2 - it's natural to be worried but try not to. I'm sure you'll see a lovely tadpole with a heartbeat on your scan.

Take care everyone xxx

Yeh gr8 news Hayzee! were cycle buddies again!
Sounds really promising Issy, they say lots of cramping is a sign of early bfp, god how ironic would that be! can't wait to hear your news
Dr rang yesterday (well his secretary did) they are gonna squeese me in for hSG on cd 16 (meant to be done between 7 & 15 but he seems to think it'll be ok) god i how i don't ovulate till after cd 16 as we have to refrain from bd'ing till after!
Has anyone here gone through an HSG? how long after do you have to wait before bd'ing? i've googled it and some say 24hrs some 3 days!!! so confusing

Hi All, Nicci, the spotting was very strange. It was very dark, sticky and thick. More like the last day of my period. Sorry if that was TMI.
Hayzee, you take your Clomid on day 2 of AF? I was instructed to take mine on day 3. Wonder what the difference is. Something strange i thought about recently was before i started Clomid I was ovulating real late in my cycle. My cycles were 28 days apart and i would ovulate on day 21. So i guess the Clomid made me ovulate early....strange. Not sure about that...
Hope your Nan gets better soon!
I am still in denial about this. I will feel much better after the ultra in two weeks.
Today i am 5/1. I am still pretty worried about a tubal or a cyst. I guess i shouldn't have read all the problems people can have using Clomid.

Yeah Hayzee, that's great news. Fingers crossed for you too. Is it worth picking up the script anyway so you have a spare just in case?

hi just thought id let you know that my period arrived finally this morning so no need for the provera. Will start what could be my last go of the clomid tomorrow im keeping my fingers crossed that it works. x

Hi girls. Actually replied at lunchtime but it didn't post. Nice to hear from you again Hayzee. Sorry to hear about your nan - hope she gets better soon. Will be seeing mine next week for first time in ages as am nearby for grandma's funeral. Hope you get your prescription soon, or better still immaculate conception without an egg and a BFP on that blood test.

It could be implantation dip Nicci as it did go back up today, but I don't feel it. Have been feeling too much like AF arriving and CM also very pre-AF. Hope you get a cancellation to have the HSG sooner - my HyCoSy had a 4 month wait but got done after 2, so fingers crossed. LondonLottie on the Assisted Conception thread went to Norway. Check out the fertilityfriends.co.uk website - they have a Norway thread.

Good Luck both xxx

Issy, i don't wanna get ur hopes up, but are u sure it's not an implantation dip? 8 & 9dpo and said to be the most common (& successful) days for implantation! My Dr has suddenly decided to carry out an HSG on me this month! only thing is, i rang to get booked in & it's all full up!!!!!!! how naff is that, i've to try again nxt month in the hope that there's a slot for me then. Seriously considering going abroad for IVF (i keep seeing an advert for norway) not sure how much more of this i can go through. Only allowed another month on the clomid hcg

im sorry nicci its so hard when your body plays tricks on you.
issy i no everywhere you look there are people getting pregnant without even trying and there are people like us who are trying everything and get nothing.
sorry havent been on my nan is in hospital so been up there all the time shes nearly 81.
i finally got through to my fertility nurse and she made me have a blood test to make sure im not pregnant hello there was no egg but they have to be 100% sure i suppose. There is no consultant to write me a prescription so ive got to wait until thursday. Its really getting on my nerves my last period was 8.11.08 when i spoke to nurse she said its not the clomid but my pcos but ive had it for years but its never stopped my periods, seems strange that the 2 months i took clomid i need the provera to induce my period. As i said this might be the last time i take it im going to try the stronger dosage but if no periods ill try the iui. Seems to mess me up not improve things.

Hi Nicci. So sorry AF got you . Know what you mean about others being pg. Girl in my office got pregnant first month of trying, just before she started the job, and announced she's 17 weeks last week, so no sooner does one person in my office go on maternity leave (who wasn't even trying) and there's another bump in my face everyday. Sorry for the rant - life seems so unfair.

My temp dipped almost to coverline today so probably getting AF on Wednesday. Don't understand it as only 9 dpo according to FF and never had short LP. Have been feeling emotionally like AF coming for last 5 days though so probably is on its way .

Congrats ttcbby2 .

Well AF arrived 4 days late for me this morning with cramps, so i guess it wasn't meant to be (AGAIN!) whats made it even harder is that my two closest friends have last week confirmed they are both pregnant-without even trying!! DH is upset that it's not worked out for us this month & me, well as usual i'm gutted. Must stop testing early, must stop testing early.... Gr8 news for you ttcbby & my toes are x'd for your news issy!
Ttcbby just out of curiosity how would you describe the colour/amount of your spotting?

Sorry its been so long. I have been in denial. I did break down and go buy a bunch of tests 1 week and 1 day ago. It was right after i posted here for the first time. I took it and it was positive. So of course i didn't know if it was BBY#2 or still the HCG shot in my system. I spotted and cramped the next day for about 3 hours. I tested again and every day for 4 days after and all tests were positive. Each day the line got darker and darker. I am not sure it has sunk in yet. I booked a 7 week ultrasound-January 27th. I guess this is it! I still worry about a tubal preggers. Tubals are more common with Clomid and HCG shot. I haven't had any cramps or bleeding since that one day. One thing that bummed me out was my sister who wasn't even trying to get prego called me about a week ago to tell me she was pregnant and couldn't believe it because they weren't ready or even trying and they only did it the one time the whole month. People like that make me upset because for all of us others we have to medicate and hope and pray every day!

Nicci, have you tested again? I calculated my edd will be september 14.

I think i will be much happier on the 27th when I can see things on the screen!

Hey Moo. No side effects - that's great . Hope you had a good time last night. I went out and didn't touch a drop - just in case - but feel like I have a hangover . Think it was just the very loud music - how old does that make me sound, lol? Even my mouth has that hangover taste.

Feeling very emotional this weekend - kind of the way I do in the day or two pre-AF, but according to FF didn't ovulate until 3rd so not due AF til next Sat. Guess it could be connected with sorting out hotel for grandma's funeral - suddenly seems more real - and worrying about what lies ahead with the IVF - assisted conception threads full of stories about how bad the drugs make you feel. Really hoping am pg this month from my new year shenanigans so don't have to go through with it.

Good luck with testing again tomorrow Nicci. Fingers crossed for you.

Hi Issy, I'm good thanks have just finished this months round of clomid and have had zero side effects not even grumpyness!! Woo hoo. Was bad and went out last night and had a skinfull though! How are things with you?

Nicci, I don't think anyone stops at the first bfp, even people who get pregnant as soon as they see a widgey lol, my cousin did 3 different brand tests just to make sure lol, I hope the BFP comes back for you, fingers x'd

Moo xxx

Fingers crossed you get a BFP again soon Nicci. Let's hope you just had more diluted wee when you got the BFN. Thinking of you.

Hi Moo, how are you doing?

thanks moo, think it's my own fault for testing too much. most people would stop at the first bfp hey? Guess i've gotta leave it a few days and c what happens. Sorry to have missed you earlier. x

oh nicci, i hate it when our bodies play tricks on us. I hope you are ok, I know it's gutting, I just hope it's a false bfn coz you can get em. I'm online if you are still here.

Moo xxx

God life feels so cruel at times. I did another FRER last night & it came back as before a light positive. It was a pack of two so as it's been light for 2 days i thought i'd do the other this morning with FMU in the hope that it would be darker and it came back bfn. What is going on? i can't help but feel down, is there anyone on line to chat?

Thanks guys i hope thats the case! i went out a spent a fortune on the clearblue digital test today, to be told 'not pregnant' so guess my hcg is quite low at the mo. will keep u posted, i hope it sticks, it's so hard not to worry when you've had reacurrent loss as i'm sure everyone can appreciate. Heres to all of our bfps!!!

Congratulations Nicci , so pleased for you. I'm sure line will be darker soon. Just been working late with pg colleague and she tested a few days late and only got a faint line. Tested again a week later and got a really dark line.

Brilliant news hopeful, fingers crossed for you.
I am starting my 3rd and final funded set of hcg injections this month and then not sure what to do.

Really pleased you have some good news.

Where is everyone? is there no one to share my news with?!

Hi you all, & welcome ttcbby2! Whats your news AF was due for you tues? Has the witch stayed away?? fingers X
I have news.................................
For the last 3 days i have had faint BFP's!!!
It's so hard not to get my hopes up but the lines are definately there, (using FRER) just waiting for them to get darker! hcg injection was cd 14 i'm 13 dpo today cd 29 so it must be out of my system by now, hey??! got bfn's 4 days leading up to faint bfp so heres hoping it's not playing tricks on me and showing up in my system before it leaves completely. Praying again really really hard, & v v nervous (last 3 months i've had a 12 day LP so according to FF i'm due today based on that) here's my chart http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/139770

Hi all, very quiet on here. Hope everyone is OK. Did you get your prescription Hayzee?

Got my consultation appointment through for the new clinic today, it's two weeks on Monday. Scared and excited at the same time. Don't know whether any of you are registered on this website, but the thread for my clinic is full of people struggling with injections . It'll all be worth it if I get a baby at the end though. There's been another pregnancy announcement at work and in my office again. Very excited for her but just wish it could be me too.

Good luck everyone xx

I would do the same in your shoes Hayzee. Hope they don't make you wait too long for it.

And yes feel relaxed about it now. Think I finally ov'd yesterday, cd19. Very small amount of EWCM first thing (would have dismissed it as lubricant from scan in previous cycles), OPK was borderline and today temp finally well above coverline. Used to ov cd 18-20 before mc so I think maybe clomid has put my cycles back to the way they were. So, let's see if bd 3 days before ov with probable poor quality sperm can do something 8 IUIs couldn't, lol. Something tells me will be keeping the IVF appointment when it comes through!

How's everyone else doing?

hi everyone
still no response from the hospital i even tried calling them this morning but they still have not called back it so annoying so im going to the hospital first thing in the morning and im going to wait until im seen.

issy im glad he believes you at least that has taken a bit of worry from you i hope things look up for you all xx

Welcome ttcbby2 . Sorry you had cp last month . Well done on not testing - I have no willpower. Good luck for your next test. Fingers crossed for you.

Well I told my ex about the situation today and he was fine about it - at least he believed me and his attitude was not worrying until there's definitely something to worry about. Have no idea what my body is doing though - maybe coming off clomid has changed my cycles. They were longer before my mc so might be reverting back.

Hello All,
I would like to join in your chat here.
I am in the States but found all of you are going through what i am going through.
I am 13 days after hcg shot. I had 4 follies and one was a good size. I have one child, 22 months old. Took me 2 years to get prego with him. Had one chemical prego last month, thought i was going to lose my mind. Decided to forgo nature and get on Clomid and HCG's to get things going. I am very ready to have another child and move on with this part of my life. I am 32 and dh is 37. I too am a serial tester but have not done it this month! I have surprised myself. I want to run out the door to the drug store and buy 10 of them but i am restraining. I had some cramping yesterday for about 3 hours. I thought for sure i would wake this morning to AF. But i didn't. . Tuesday will be day 28 and I am usually like clockwork. I hope this is the month for me. Cheers!!

Thanks Hayzee. That's what I needed to hear, just hope he sees it that way. He wrote a blog today about the past year including what a good friend I am and how supportive I've been - cue guilt trip, even though I haven't actually got anything to feel guilty about as I was honest with him.

Really sorry about your hubby's work. Hope he gets something soon and gets the money he's owed. I need a sparky to check my electrics since I had a PME terminal fitted, but am putting off all work on my house because of the IVF.

Hope the hospital call you soon. They seem to be particularly bad at calling you, is it worth chasing them up?

hi all
still no sign of period still waiting 4 hosp 2 call 2 say when i can pick up my prescription.
Well if u told him and he didnt wear a condom then it was his choice u gave him all the info and the choices so u havent tricked him.
You aint the only 1 having a shit time my hubby has had xmas off but he called his boss 2 sort out work 4 monday only 2 b told that he aint got a job and the weeks wages he owes him he is not getting. Hes an electrician so he is self employed so there is not much we can do about it and due to the credit crunch there is not alot of sparks jobs in the area. Already a great start to the new year.

Hi all. Thanks for all your kind wishes.

Hope your Christmas bd'ing worked for you Nicci. I did have alcohol, but peanuts and soft cheese still intact. Hope your ear infection clears up Moo and hope AF arrives for you soon Hayzee and the last Clomid try works.

Apologies for long post, but I'm having a real oh shit, oh shit, oh shit moment that will only make full sense to others who understand ttc. On Tuesday evening, I thought I felt ov pains, temp had dipped on Monday and then rose back to coverline Wednesday and (sorry for tmi) cm went from watery to creamy, so assumed had ov'd on Tuesday, which was CD14 so about right. Had arranged to stay at my ex's house on New Year's Eve and knew there was a chance something might happen, so did an OPK to double check ov already happened and was negative, so when it was obvious something would happen, I explained all this to him (we've been there a few times in the past year so he's beginning to understand ttc now - or rather how to avoid it for him) and told him it was not a green light but more of an amber one in terms of timing, so he'd probably want to use a condom. Couldn't take my temp yesterday morning as at his and things did happen and we didn't use a condom. Last night cm was back to watery and today temp is back down and have just done an OPK and is positive, but cm has disappeared. I did genuinely think ov had happened Tuesday, it's late in the cycle for me to have a positive OPK so I'm wondering whether I'm actually having a anovulatory cycle - I got a positive OPK late when that last happened - or it could be stress delaying it (they say that's common after bereavement). I know it's highly unlikely that one attempt 2 days before ov with a man who's likely to have a low sperm count (38-year-old smoker who also smokes dope) would result in BFP, but if it does I really don't want him to think I tricked him. Trouble is the whole how safe it was conversation happened when we were both a bit drunk the night before so he may not have remembered in the morning when things actually happened - although I did double-check he didn't want to wear a condom and reminded him it was 'amber'. I'd hate to lose his friendship, so should I be upfront with him and tell him now that I got it wrong or should I just wait until I know the outcome? He has previously told me that he 'understands accidents can happen, but if it does he doesn't want to know about it'. Obviously would tell him if I am, but just don't know whether to warn him of the possibility.

On the other hand I would be over the moon for myself if I got a BFP and didn't have to go through the IVF.

Being good friends with an ex is so complicated, especially when you're both still single. Would help of course if I didn't sleep with him!

Good luck everyone. Let's hope 2009 is our year xx.

hi all
izzy im so sorry about the passing of your gran my thoughts are with you and your family.
Well i hope you all had a good xmas mine was very busy as usual lol.
Wishing everyone all the best for 2009 and lets hope we all get some better news than last year.
just a quick update i still havent had my period, last one was 8 nov so got to get in touch with hospital and take the provera to induce it. I have decided that im going to try one more time on the clomid as they have upped my dose to 150 and if that does not do what it is supposed to then im going to come off it. I seem to need provera to give me a period as the clomid seems to stop it i think ive got enough wrong with me without it messing up my cycle.

hi all

hope everyone had a great xmas and all the best to everyone for the new year

issy sorry to hear about your granny, my thoughts are with you and yours.

had a good xmas only am now deaf in right ear due to nasty ear infection! have never had one before but not to worry coz hearing should come back just dunno when.

prob won't get back on til new year so have a good un everyone

Moo xxx

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/139770 check out todays temp

Oh Izzy, i'm really sorry your grandma passed away, mine is 90 & i hate the thought of losing her. My thoughts are with you & your family x
With regards to my cycle, yes i got my peak on boxing day! Dh & i have never had so much christmas jiggy!!! lol. I've altered my cycle slightly this month (i'll post my chart nxt, so that you can see what i mean re the clomid & hcg shot)
By the way, hope u got to enjoy lots of soft cheese peanuts & alcohol!!!!
Where has everyone else gone??? Come back u all xxx

Hi Nicci. Hope you got that peak reading by now. Parents left this morning so I've spent the afternoon getting my house back in order and am just enjoying the peace and quiet. Sadly my grandma died yesterday, so I will see them again in a week or so for the funeral.

Hope everyone had a good Christmas xx

Sweet message Issy & very upbeat! A very merry christmas to u 2!! Ur right it is quite here (hopefully just down to the time of year!) i've very little to report cd 13 still registering low on the monitor-so far mirroring my last cycle! Hope everyones ready for christmas 2008! Enjoy x

Hello everyone. Very quiet on here - guess we're all busy with Christmas. I'm just posting quickly as parents will arrive in about an hour and here until 27th. Went to clinic on Monday to talk through options. Was disappointed in them as their attitude was 'what do you want to know' - they're the experts. I just wanted to know what my options were, but it's like getting blood from a stone. Anyway in the end I decided to be referred to the other clinic for IVF. Think it takes about 6 weeks to get an appointment so thought it wouldn't hurt to get the ball rolling this side of Christmas. Obviously don't have to decide to go through with treatment until it happens so I have time to think more about it.

I have alcohol, soft cheese and peanuts in the house and am looking forward to devouring them over Christmas

Have a good Christmas everyone and good luck xx

Hi Nicci

Sorry you're still feeling It's not selfish beacause we can't help it, we wouldn't choose to feel like this would we. I know what you mean about dh's not quite understanding how we feel. My DH found out yesterday that he has finally gotten into the local police force and I cried!!!! He thinks I have gone simple! BUMP means bring up my post, I think people use it to put unanswered threads back to the top of the list in the topic section. I was logged on but it wasn't showing any new posts on this thread but it seems to be ok now?!? I don't know if there is a way if you don't log on but I doubt it. I'm gonna go out and get blasted tonight, I haven't been out for ages or had a drink so seeing as I have been ill and there has been hardly any bding in my house, I'm getting drunk with the girls. I think a good blowout will do me good. try to feel better hun, things will work out in the end and that will make it all the more special.

Happy Christmas everyone

Moo xxx

hey there moo, still pretty fed up this end, just can't seem to shift it! i know i'm being selfish, DH doesn't understand my mixed emotions, i think i'm driving him bonkers!!! lol
I have to log on to see if anyones posted, how can i set it up otherwise? & what is bump??? i keep seeing oit on other threads/sites & have never understood it! Currently cd 8 so have finished the clomid again!! temps are all over the place, nothing else to report.
Went out and bought soya isoflavones today, any one heard of it before?? Aparently it works in the same way as clomid does and you take it in the same way too. Thought i might try it in place of clomid come january (once i've looked into it a bit more!) Happy christmas all xxx

Hi everyone

welcome babymadness

I don't know what is up with my puter but it isn't showing when people are posting on this thread so was just looking for it to bump it and see you are all still here.............I am soooooo glad!!

Am wishing I hadn't taken my clomid this month coz am poorly sick now with this horrible cough and cold so it feels like a waste. have been taking paracetamol coz i know you can take that but caved in today and took some ibuprofen too!! Well the SME plan has gone out the window already, never mind will start again in the new year.

Issy sorry about your temp drop, it sucks

hayzee, glad you managed to go on your birthday trip and had a good time.

Nicci how's things, hope you are feeling better now, I was really fed up when the clomid didn't work, was feeling really optimistic about it because it was first month on it so I figure my expectations are a lot lower now maybe I won't be so disapointed next time (who am I kidding right)

Here's to everyone having a great xmas and all their wishes coming true in the new year.

babydust
moo xxx

Thanks for all of the kind words, ladies!

I am hanging in there. Dr said that since I had the chemical pregnancy (guess that's what we're calling it) that I would not respond well to the second round of Clomid this cycle, and need to wait a month. So I guess we'll try it naturally this cycle (although I haven't been O-ing on my own). I am trying to be positive. These message boards certainly help though

Thanks, everyone!

hi all sorry i havent been on for a few days but i did go lapland on my birthday which was absolutely brilliant and then i went clubbing in the evening which was great except when i became really ill and then had to go home. I have now got a really bad chest infection so been so weak.
nicci- hope this cycle is the one maybe all the excitement of xmas will take the pressure off and it will happen.
thankyou all for the get well messages.
Im still waiting for my period to arrive so that i can start my clomid again, just hoping that it is not going to mess me up again and that i will have to take the provera again but its still early days as the latest i should be on is friday. At least i have not got any thoughts in my head of being pregnant as the hospital said i did not ovulate so its been a cheap month as have not had to buy any tests lol.
lets all hope that 2009 is the year for all the clomid babies xxxxx

Welcome Babymadness.

Sorry Lytho - that's so tough - there are people on MN who say you're very fertile after early mc, so hope next time works for you.

Hi Nicci - still here, just. I'm out - big temp drop this morning and BFN yesterday, so AF will be here tomorrow/Wednesday. Really don't know what to do next. IVF seems so extreme both emotionally and financially and right now just feel like giving up. Maybe it's just not meant to happen for me. Don't think I can put my life on hold any longer - it's been nearly two years now since I was first referred to the clinic and in that time I could have met someone and conceived naturally. Have my 20-wk pregnant friend staying over tomorrow so may change my mind, but I'm just exhausted by the whole thing at the moment.

Hi you guys, I'm new here...was on clomid for 4 months and now on menapour injections and HCG trigger injection...is it still ok to join in? Hope so...i'm on day 6 and have a scan tomorrow, to check out follicles after injections.... Sorry to hear some of your messages are really tough...Lytho...thats incredibly hard to handle and auntiemoo....thats the spirit! This is such a rollercoaster....we just all have to think of that moment, when it finally happens....it's going to be so much more special than ALL those peeps who just go.....oh look dear...i'm preggers!....xx

oh Lytho thats so tuff, i've been feeling so sorry for myself till i read ur post. It brings comfort knowing were not going through it alone, & that we all unnderstand the horrible emotional turmoil each cycle brings. Guess we could be cycle buddies then (i'm cd 4). Try re reading moo's post 3 above, lets hope 2009 is our year! xxx
Izzy, Hayzee where are you??? What news do u guys have???

Oh Lytho I'm really sorry that must be so hard. Af is soooooooooo cruel, I hate her!!! I'm for you and your DH. Sending you lots of hugs and loads of babydust.

moo xx

Hi ladies,

Thanks for your responses. My bloodwork came back positive Friday, with an HCG level of 37. We were SO excited, went out to celebrate. I woke up bleeding Saturday though - and took a HPT and the line was barely there, unlike the darker tests this week, and my temp dropped. I think AF somehow invaded my BFP. We are SO bummed, because we had one whole day of celebrating. Ugh.

So now I am back at CD2, ready for more Clomid. Sigh.

Thanks again for the replies, it really helps!

Awww Nicci, sorry you're back to day 1 I'm on CD6 now so am not very far ahead of you. I hate day 1, I think we all do coz we want to see day 72 (random number?) lol.

Lytho, I've never had the HCG trigger so can't really comment coz I know nothing about it. I hope you get your BFP that will be so exciting

Hayzee, hope you were feeling better for your birthday, is it today?? It's my baby brothers birthday today.........he's 23 lol

Right girlies, new year coming, new lease of life!!! All this moping isn't helping me so, of course am hoping (has fingers crossed) for BFP's before xmas for those who are waiting but if not, 2009 is our year............all of us!! I refuse to accept that in another year I will still be in this situation and I am NOT going to let it happen, by hook or by crook (although not sure how you can crook this) we are having BFP's within the next year.........I've said it..............I meant it.............so it must be true!! There is gonna be more BDing in my house than you can shake a stick at whether DH likes it or not lol

Who's with me!

xmas babydust for all

Moo xx

Thanks, hope! I didn't allow myself to be excited since the doc told me NOT to test. ;)
My Ovidrel shot was 250MGU/.5ML - I think I read on here that it was equal to 6500IU? Not sure how long that takes to disappear?
I had a dark positive Wednesday and then a shade lighter yesterday and this morning. I was told that even two tests within the same box can be different shades. I am OBSESSING over every little thing, I feel like a crazy woman!

Sorry to hear that you're back at CD1 -but atleast your TWW is over and this new cycle will be your lucky one! Best of luck!

I'll let you know what happens with the bloodwork

Lytho, i personally feel that the HCG shot would be well out of your system by now, what dose was it? Stick around we need a few BFP's in here!! I'm back on CD 1 hope we can be congratulating u very soon x

Hello All,

Sorry for busting into this chatroom. This page has been so informative to me, as I've just had my first round of Clomid and had an HCG trigger on 11-28. I am now 12DPO, 14 DPT. Of course, I have been POAS all week, even though my doc told me not to! I can't help it! I have had positive HPTs for the past 3 days, including this morning. Do you think this could still be the leftover HCG from the trigger? I just went for bloodwork, but of course since it is Friday afternoon, I may not hear until Monday, which will kill me

Thanks!

Thanks for the welcome and all the info Issy

I restrained myself from testing this morning but I'm not sure what chance I give myself of waiting till Thursday (when I would be 11dp3dt) for the official test.

Question: so does anyone know whether it's possible to even GET a +ve pg test result at 8 dpo?

Sorry you feel ill Hayzee - really hope you feel better for your birthday tomorrow.

Sorry AF here Nicci . Another BFN for me today and checked an hour later and evap line was starting to appear, so think that must be what happened yesterday, so probably joining you next Wednesday.

Hope you don't mind but I've directed someone over here who has a clomid question and thought you may be able to help.

xx

AF in full flow this morning thinkin of you all! Welcome lottie!! best of luck to u and Izzy for this cycle. I've pondered on whether once the hcg leaves ur system around 8 dpo that it peaks again b4 leaving completly! i've had a couple of occasions recently where i've got bfp once it's supposedly left my system, only to be followed by AF. Who knows??!!
Get well soon Hayzee, especially for ur birthday! Go get ur hair done, it may make u feel better!

hi all
im currently really ill hubby infected me with his cold feel really rubbish so if i done feel better by tomorrow might have to give lapland a miss even though its cost me a fortune. It is supposed to be heavy rain tomorrow and the whole experience is outdoors so just hoping will feel a little better by the morning. What a great birthday im going to have i supposed to be going hairdressers today but really dont feel like it but if i dont get it done today i probably wont be able to get it done before xmas. Im keeping all my fingers crossed for all of you it would be great to hear some good news on here. Im waiting for my period to arrive so that i can get back on the clomid at least i dont have to waste money on tests this month as i didnt ovulate.xxx

Well I think I'm one of a few guilty culprits of serial testing on here, hey Nicci .

If you look back at the thread I posted a summary of all our thoughts on when hcg leaves your system on page 4 to someone who popped in briefly then got a BFP - maybe we're a good luck charm on this thread.

Please don't be terrified - I didn't mean to worry you - there must be lots of people who test negative then positive after hcg for the question to be out there on the threads. And if my theory were correct for everyone someone would have known about it by now. I tested negative for two days then positive again when had the suspected mc too (tho it was a Sainsburys and there's now a whole thread about them and false positives, so who knows). I guess it's connected with both how quickly you expel the false hcg and how quickly you start producing the natural hcg that determines whether it would go negative before a positive, so it must be different for different people else we'd all test positive on same dpo to confirm pg instead of this whole 55% on day-4, 87% on day-3 etc.. I'd love to see studies on this too.

Yes, I'm 8 dpo today, we are cycle buddies . Really hope you get good news - after going all the way to Norway for treatment you certainly deserve it. BTW, what are the IVF success rates for your clinic? The one I'm looking at is 45% for 35-37 year olds.

*Babydust to all*

Aah now you seem to know a lot more about this hCG > pg test reading business!

So do lots of people do this v early testing to see whether it just stays positive (from the shot through to pg hormones) or whether it goes from +ve > -ve > +ve again. I'd love to know those stats!

I'm absolutely terrified now though that this won't have worked. No way of knowing how much of a downer it's going to be until it happens, but much as I've been trying to prepare myself for that eventuality, I think it'll be a grey Christmas if I get a BFN.

Fingers crossed for you too Issy. So are you 8dpo today? I just learnt on the FF board that I'm <meant> to write that I'm 5dp3dt (five days past a three day transfer = 8 day old embryo = 8dpo!)

Hi Londonlottie - nice to see you on this thread and thanks again for introducing me to the other FF site (confusing that there are two). The only reason I'm concerned about a BFN on 8dpo (10 days after hcg shot) is because a few cycles ago I had a suspected early mc and didn't get a negative until 13 days after the shot, so I have a theory in my head that if I'm pg the test won't go negative. There are lots of different strengths of hcg shot and people metabolise (is that a word?) at different rates, so may not mean anything for you though. Also I've read somewhere that a +ve, -ve, +ve after hcg shot means you're pregnant so it must happen for some people.

If you know your usual temps you could start temping now, which would give you the pre-AF warning.

I can never wait until test date either, I usually give in at day -3 when the cb digital is 87% accurate. Even though the bfns are disappointing, I get carried away thinking I'm pg and the early testing brings me back down to earth more gently. I'm still undecided at what's best.

Now you can all tell me off as I know you should never do it, but ... I was in such a rush this morning I didn't look really closely at the test, didn't accurately time the 5 mins (was just counting in my head) and left the wrapper on the windowsill. When I went to put the wrapper in the bin this evening I picked the test back up again (very bad habit I have - there was nothing yucky in the bin - other than the used pg test of course ), but there was a line there. I know one can appear after a while (there's no don't read after time with the test I used - internet cheapie with poor instructions), but I used these tests last month and no line appeared after a negative result then on any of them. So maybe I jumped the gun thinking I had BFN this morning. Of course still could be from the hcg shot so doesn't mean anything and was very faint but pink not grey. I will try not to test again until next Wednesday (but I said that this morning )!

Really hope the IVF worked for you Lottie and good luck everyone else too xx.

Issy - I popped in here to ask you a pee stick question as I remembered you talking about them the other day, and what do I find but you testing on 8dpo and thinking that a BFN means anything! Actually, you'll laugh because I am now 8dpo (from IVF) and just went and did a pg test. The question I wanted to ask you was at what point you noticed the hCG leaving your system. I got a BFN (no surprises there; 8dpo and afternoon wee) but was also annoyed with myself for even CONSIDERING that a -ve at 8dpo means anything. And you must believe that Issy - I have never ever heard of anyone getting a BFP so early. I've heard of the occasional 9dpo, but lots of people (really, lots) don't get a BFP until at least 11/12 dpo.

Now that mine was negative I know the hCG has left my system so that kind of answers that question. I'm annoyed that I haven't been temping this cycle (I wasn't sure whether the IVF hormones and progesterone would play havoc with the temps anyway) because other than temping or the unfortunate arrival of AF, I have no way of telling how things are going. I have no idea how everyone else waits until their Official Test Date (which is set, for me, at 14dpo). Everyone on FF seems to stick to it - apart from me! In a way I think I'd rather find out earlier, or be able to brace myself for it earlier, than get a very big and very official NO on the test date.

Sorry Nicci .

My temp rose back a bit this morning, but caved in and tested and got a BFN. The time I had suspected early mc it stayed positive until 10 dpo, so think probably hasn't worked for me. Was really hoping it would this time so don't have to make the IVF decision.

Hope everyone else is having better luck x

temp dip on 7 dpo sounds really promising Izzy!!!!
Mine stayed down this morning and i have just starting spotting so i'm out yet again, better luck to you x

auntiemoo - hope you enjoyed your family dinner. Sadly can't help with SME plan - no dp to try it with! - but lots of people on other threads swear by it. Hope those shoes are nicely stretched.

Hayzee - enjoy Lapland and your birthday. Have lots of citrus fruit and strawberries to boost that zinc and vit c and keep hubby's cold away. I couldn't manage without temping, I find the rise so reassuring, and it doesn't take long to get in the habit. The drop, though infuriating, is also useful as a warning that AF is coming.

Hi bamboo - hope AF stays away for you. I'm moving to IVF if this IUI fails too. I was upfront with my boss and initially she was supportive but more recently less so - even though I arrive at work earlier on days I have scans - luckily I don't start til 10am usually. I've been lucky that most of my treatments have either fallen on Saturday or when I'm on annual leave anyway, so only 2 of my 8 have been in work time.

Sorry your temp dropped today Nicci, but it's still way above your cover line, so fingers crossed it will rise again tomorrow for you.

I have done quite well at not symptom spotting this past week - until today! So here's my observations and the common sense reasons. It's 7 dpo and I have a temp dip - implantation? - Or just that my boiler didn't kick in so was freezing and was up earlier than usual to fit blood test in before work. Walking between car and hospital had strange crampy pains too low for trapped wind - but they didn't last very long. Later in the morning had really itchy nips (sorry) - I was wearing the cheapest bra I've ever bought (but never itchy before). So they could all be something and nothing and should just try to forget about it for a week. Someone tell me to stop!

Good luck all xxx

Hi All

Am sat here in the bestest shoes in the world trying to break them in because they are sooooooooooooo uncomfortable but very very cool a successful shopping trip today have got a frock and everything I usually stay well away from anyhing that shows leg (or my stumps as DH calls them lol)

Bamboo,I'm really lucky in that I have a very understanding boss and he lets me have time off whenever I need it, he knows what DH and I are going through and he's been really good about it. Maybe if you feel you could tell your boss it might make them a bit more understanding.

Wow hayzee cooking for 13 last year!!! I cooked for 7 and found that a nightmare lol. I hate cooking everyday food never mind the chrimbo dinner, I'm at my ma in laws this year so am looking forward to having it made for me.

Nicci, I'm not sure about anything about BBT just yet but am sat here secrely hoping that you slept outide the covers in the nud!! Other than that am hoping as I think can happen that it's an implantation dip??? Like I said though don't really know anything about it.

Issy, how are you, where are you up to now?

Xmas babydust for everyone

Moo xx

goodness we're all so organised re christmas! i'm done shoppiong too just have 2/3rds of it to wrap. We've got two birthdays b4 then also! there presents are all wrapped and waiting!!
Welcome again Bamboo, i know it must get difficult re taking so much time off work, i've been so fortunate there as i can fit it in around my work as i do 2 24hr shifts a week so have a tues wed fri free. I wish u lots of luck for this cycle.
I'm really flat today as temperature took that all too common nose dive today. I've uncrossed my fingers & am gonna stop praying as it doesn't seem to be helping me in any way. http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/139770

Hi everyone, I posted really early in this thread and then dropped off a bit although I have been following everyone's stories. Just finished my 3rd round of IUI and clomid at 100 and am now waiting for af to arrive. I am going to move onto IVF then but feel that my ovarian reserve must be rubbish as my response to clomid has been poor, never more than one egg. It is such a downer the whole thing and the amount of time off work to go and have all the scans is beginning to get difficult. What does everyone else do? I haven't told my boss.

hi
im chuffed that im allowed to continue on the clomid as it puts off the iui for a while, you never know it might just work and i wont need the iui. My xmas shopping is finished but my hubby is off work and ill in bed just hoping that i dont get it as we are going lapland uk on sat for my birthday as im a big kid and then we are going out in the evening for a few drinks at a local club.
For xmas im at the in-laws which is great as i cooked for 13 last year so having a nice relaxing day, then boxing day i have my nan as we lost my grandad this year, my dad and 2 brothers and my sister who lives with me. Nicci i might start charting but i will probaby forget to take my temp in the morning as i just jump out of bed with a list of things to do running through my head

LOL issy I wish he would give it up after a few days he plays online so he's always playing different people and never gets bored, unlike me who sits watching him play!!! Well am done with the xmas shopping now and everything is wrapped so am going shopping for an outfit tomorrow with my mum and brother and having lunch out with them too. Hopefully will be in for a relaxing december now, have 3 birthdays yet before xmas but am done buying and wrapping for those too, just got the cards to buy now.....woo hoo

Nicci will have a look on ebay but am determined to find the one i have, it's driving me potty because I know I have seen it, even got out of bed a few times coz I'd thought of different places it could be lol, the annoying thing is I took it out of the drawer and put it somewhere that I knew it would be

Has anyone else tried the sperm meets egg plan (aka the deanna plan)?? Wonder if it really is as successful as it says 40% which is better than the 25% you get naturally??? I've only had a quick look at it so am gonna google it again now.

Sorry girls - interrupted writing my post to eat dinner and forgot to check if anyone had posted meanwhile. Lol about the computer game - if he's anything like me he'll play non-stop for a few days and then abandon it. Am getting my dad a computer game for Christmas.

Hi Nicci your chart looks hopeful and it's very early so try not to get down about the BFN - at least you know the hcg is out of your system so you can trust a BFP now. I'm on fertilityfriend too, but not VIP so can't share my charts. I'm not symptom spotting because will just be the hcg. Day 21 blood test tomorrow, can't believe I'm only half way through the 2ww - feels like forever.

Hope the higher dose works for you Hayzee. I got a lot of my shopping done at the Lincoln Christmas market on Saturday, so just 4 pressies to go. It's secret santa day at work tomorrow and haven't wrapped the present yet. What are you doing for Crimbo?

Have you seen the fertilityfriends.co.uk website? It's quite good for meeting people being treated at the same clinic as you. I've been on it to find out the true cost of IVF and have been chatting with someone on there who also works for my employer and has to hide from colleagues when she goes for treatment. Small world - I wrote to her 2 years ago in my work.

How's it going auntiemoo?

autiemoo, i know exactly where ur coming from, re moods & men and computer games!!! Get urself a bbt thermometer on ebay u'll have it by thursday for under £5. Then you can join me on fertility friend charting (perfect if u aren't being monitored this month).

Hi everyone

Have started on the clomid again today but am not being monitored this cycle so just gonna have to do lots more BDing, poor dh was given a printout of the sperm meets egg plan last night and told "this is what we will be doing this month" hehe. I was being quite irrational yesterday, I bought him a computer game and then when he stayed up late playing it I told him thats why I was in bits every month It's a good job he understands Am feeling much better today the defeatist attitude has gone and am up for the battle again and this time I'm gonna win!!! I had another hissy fit yesterday coz I have lost my BBT thermometer, bloody typical timing have had it ages and never used it, found it a couple of weeks ago in the kitchen drawer and the minute I want it............!!poof!! it's gone never mind maybe I would drive myself silly with it lol.

So am on CD2 now how is everyone else getting on? Hayzee thats good news about them upping your dose. Hope everyone is well (sprinkles babydust for all)

Moo xx

That's gr8 news Hayzee! Why don't u start charting for this next cycle. all you need to do is take ur temperature each morning. It'll help u pinpoint patterns to ur cycle & could aid the timing of your IUI (i know u'll have scans but it will also confirm ovulation for u or not) Let me know if ur interested i can invite u as a friend so we can both get some free VIP days. U can either do it via my link (previous post) or drop me ur email & i can do it that way! Where is everyone else? I got BFN today 10dpo (i caved in!!!-poas)

hi girls
i am still on the clomid my gyn just upped my dosage to 150mg of clomid. My period is due anywhere between the 13th (which is my birthday so great)or the 20th so hopefully santa will wave a little of his magic over xmas.
how are you all have you all finished your xmas shopping and what are you up to over the holidays? xxx

If any of you are interested in signing up to Fertility friend you can do so though my home page (see details below) if you sign up for VIP (which is what i have done & i find it very helpful), then u can get free days by doing it this way.

Simply direct your friend to your home page. & ask her to join FertilityFriend.com using the Join link right on your page.

My link is in tne post above, u can copy & paste it into ur browser
x

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/139770 THAT'S MY CURRENT CHART FOR YOUR INTEREST, OPINIONS WELCOME. X

& Izzy, always seems like something stressful has to occur when we could do without it hey?! I'm currently 9 dpo, with high temps (i'll attach chart) i was woken at 4.30 this morning with awful cramps (didn't feel like af cramps almost like trapped wind pain all over my tummy and around my tummy button, was almost certain i'd go to the bathroom and see blood but nothing! My fingers are so tightly crossed Praying this month will be it. How's ur symptom spotting going?

Oh moo, very sorry for you. keep we're all here for you. x

Thanks auntiemoo. Sorry AF arriving for you . So frustrating that progesterone makes us feel pg. Are you having the hcg injection too? - It makes me nauseous and gives me (TMI warning) thick white CM like I had when I was pg. I ignore it for a few days, but about a week later I always forget and start getting quietly excited. Then about 8dpo all the symptoms disappear and I get disappointed again.

Welcome hoping. I think it's OK to drink on Clomid - I just checked the leaflet that came with mine and it doesn't say you can't.

Hi Nicci and Hayzee. Hope you're OK.

I've had a stressful weekend. Big row with my ex last Tuesday and thought we'd sorted things out and went to a christmas fayre together yesterday, then got home and found an e-mail message he'd sent me a week and a half ago which made me really upset and so I've told him that's it - I'm not even going to try to do the friends thing anymore. Most of the time he's a really nice guy but he has no capacity for empathy and upsets me in a big way 2-3 times every year. I've had enough now, just want a stress-free time while ttc, but he was probably the best friend I had locally (when he wasn't upsetting me), so it was a really hard decision to make and feel very . Just hope all the stress hasn't affected my chances of success this month.

Babydust to all xx

Well I was right have started spotting so af will be here by morning, by god I hate her , I did test last night and was bfn so should have known. Am gonna have a little tipple tonight and start again with the madness tomorrow...........I knew I should've written to santa

Hope everyone else is well and am keeping my fingers (but not legs) crossed for you all

Moo xx

Thanks hopeful, I will have a glass of wine at the Xmas party, this is my last go of IUI on the NHS - 1st go in March was successful but m/c after 6weeks, fertility clinic was then shut for refurbishment! Had second go last month but it failed, 3rd and final go on the NHS this month then it's IVF. I didn't want to have a glass or 2 of wine if it may harm my chances of getting pregnant. I'll probably be drunk on 2 glassess anyhow as it's been that long since I've had a drink . Cheers...

Hi there hoping. As far as i'm aware the odd glass of wine won't have any affect. Obviously if ur ttc ur not going to out and get wasted are u?!! Actually a glass of wine may just relax you and in turn aid conception. Goodluck with the IUI. Keep us posted on how it all goes.x

Hello, sorry to butt in on ths thread but I want some advice. I'm having IUI this month and am taking clomid. I'm on day 5 today and wanted to know if it's OK to drink alcohol while taking clomid?

Thanks for any advice

HEY U CAN'T GIVE UP JUST YET, THINK POSITIVELY, HAVE U DONE A TEST? SHOULD SHOW UP BY NOW IF UR CYCLES ARE 27-29 DAYS! XXX

Boooooooo I'm sulking today looks like af is on her way, boobs are back to normal, teeth are back to normal and think she will be here overnight or tomorrow am

Oh well here we go again, another month of insanity

Hi all

Thanks for the welcome Issy, my fingers are crossed for you, hope the IUI works for you and brings you the bestest xmas pressie ever.

Nicci that'll be great thanks, will have a look at FF. I think I'm right in thinking that POAS means pee on a stick??? lol

Still feeling the same but am tring not to get hopes up because I think i read somewhere that clomid can give early pg symptoms so I'm trying to make myself believe thats what it is.

On another topic, the grumpy inspector made me take the xmas tree out of the office today OK to be fair i did put a 6 foot one up but I'm allowed to leave the tinsel up lol. The tree had been up a grand total of 2 hours before it had to be removed lol.

hope you are all well

*******BABYDUST********

Moo xx

Welcome moo. This is a really lovely thread. Funny teeth are meant to be a really good sign.

So sorry it didn't work for you Hayzee , perhaps they will try you on a stronger dose or with the GT injections instead. Hope something works for you soon.

Thanks for asking after me Nicci. I'm OK, just having the usual post injection nausea, but am determined to remember that it doesn't mean I'm pg , so if you catch me symptom spotting before next Thursday tell me to stop! Good luck with not testing.

Good luck all xxx .

Moo, i enjoyed reading your post! I'm at work for the nxt 24hrs, but once home i'll send you a link, + i think i can get you some free trial days for a site called fertility friend. It makes charting simple! I'm a true poas'a'holic!! and i'm aiming not to test at all this cycle until i can see my temp is still elevated beyond my usual 10 day (or so)LP. Keep us posted! Chucking a load of **babydust** back at you x

Hi all

nicci, my cycle is usually between 27 & 29 days so am expecting af around monday-ish Ok so tmi alert........ so far have had reeeeealy sore (.)(.) but usually they are a bit sore anyway, have got thick creamy cm (sorry did warn about tmi) am tired, grumpy and have funny feeling teeth (bizzare) I've had funny twinges on both sides around ov and a couple of times since. For someone who isn't symptom spotting I've mentioned quite a few I've never charted and wouldn't know where to start, up untill 6 months ago was working shifts so would have been difficult to chart then but have no excuse now.

hayzee Glad your nurse finally got in touch, it was poor they kept you waiting so long but sorry it wasn't better news hun. I think nicci may be right, eat, drink and be merry over chrimbo have a rest from the meds and who knows what santa may bring, don't give up, just have a rest

Maybe we should all send santa a letter telling him what we want for xmas

Fingers crossed and lots of babydust for all

Moo xxx

Of course u can join us auntiemoo! sounds like we're in the 2ww together! I'm currently 5dpo. When is ur AF due? That's amazing that you've ovulated from both sides (possibility of twins!!!) I know you said u were trying not to symptom spot, but have u any signs? I've been feeling all sorts of twinges on left & right sides plus,(sorry tmi) i'm so wet down below, it's enough to wear a liner! Also i'm extremely snappy and tired. Are you charting aswell? Praying for some BFP's in time for christms. x Don't give up Hayzee, just bd for fun over christmas, who knows what might happen, maybe ur body needs a break from the drugs & will do it alone! How are you feeling Izzy?

hi all
finally my nurse called me today, said that i have not ovulated this month so its not working as i thought, she is going to speak to my gyn tomorrow to find out if im going to continue on the clomid or try something else. Lets hope that i get some better news in 2009. Hope you are all keeping well and i will keep my fingers crossed for you all xxx.

Hi everyone

Was wondering if I can join your group. I have taken my first lot of clomid and am now on CD25 so waiting with baited breath for the dreaded AF. DH and I have been ttc for a little over 3 years and up to press consultant can't find any reason that it hasn't happened (good news but also frustrating) I take clomid on day 2-6 but didn't have hcg injection although had a scan on CD15 and nurse said had ov'd already and was about to ov again from other side. Will be gutted if I don't get BFP coz I know I will have had 2 chances this cycle but trying not to symptom spot or obsess too much Also I'm not sure if my cycle length will be affected by clomid as it is only my first go. Anyway here's hoping for sticky little beans for us all for xmas

Hayzee echo Nicci about that being rubbish. I can never get through to my clinic on the phone, but they are better at responding to e-mails. Is there another number you could try? Perhaps your nurse is off sick or something. Really hope you get some answers soon. Very on your behalf.

IUI was OK today - cervix didn't play hide and seek for too long. Found the day really emotional though. I think because it was my last chance. Some good news though, they've changed the policy so you have to pay on the day now and I only got charged the pre-October rate. This is attempt 3 since the price went up but I haven't been billed for the others yet, so that's £450 extra for IVF! Can't see this attempt working - last time I had such good follicles and my day-21 progesterone was about 189 and it didn't work. Just don't see it happening. Trying not going to get my hopes up just to have them dashed again.

Good luck both xx

Hayzee that's absolutely rubbish, is it an NHS fertility specialist? I hope u haven't missed anything/possible follicles. Keep ringing them, it's what i did in order to get my hcg script. Goodluck, Izzy how'd ur day go?

hi
im getting so bloddy annoyed the nurse still hasnt called me even though i have left a message every day this week and a few last week so if the eggs were going to grow i would have missed it by now so just hoping nothing has happened. SO lets hope the new year will bring some better news as its clear nothing is going to happen. Speak to you both soon. xxx

Gosh it sure is confusing! That's the main reason i got the monitor, i'm rubbish at comparing lines on opk sticks, your follicles sound really promising!! Not too far behind me, FF has just put me at 3 dpo! (here we go again!) Oh what a christmas present a BFP would be for us. Fingers are tightly crossed! Hayzee have you spoken to the nurse yet? X

You're welcome Nicci.

I had scan today - didn't take proper notice of my results as they were going to rescan on Wednesday - I definitely had two larger follicles, one on each ovary, but can't remember whether were 1.7 and 1.8 or 1.8 and 1.9, some 1.3s and 1.2s. Sometimes my follicles go to 1.8 and others they're well over 2 so never sure. I'm confused though. I used OPK this am pre-appointment and was -ve, then again about 12:30 and the lines were almost the same, which is as positive as I sometimes get, so told clinic they were the same. Since the OPK was so borderline I retested around 4pm and was def negative and again this evening so now I think I may have jumped the gun. Sorry TMI warning - trying so hard not to drink too much that at lunchtime could only manage 3 secs of poas so must have been concentrated, but for later tests peed in plastic cup to avoid the problem and was quite weak both times, despite trying hard not to drink in final 2 hours, so probably just that. Only clear result of all the testing is a dehydration headache! Used Ovitrelle tonight anyway as would be treated Wednesday anyway so thought I'd give those eggs best chance of being matured. Bodies - aren't they confusing!

Babydust to you both xx

Bless you Izzy, thanks for the advice! x

Nicci - I can see why you're confused as you seem to have two temp rises. I noticed that your cover line on previous month was above the first rise though, so that may mean the second rise was ov, which would tie in with monitor reading. Either way you seem to have it covered with your bd timing. Good luck.

Well i finally got my peak on the monitor (meaning ovulation happened sometime over last 48hrs!) Only i'm not exactly sure when, as my temp rose the morning of the peak reading also!? Somewhat confused me, did i ovulate before my peak reading? i'll attach my chart so you can see what i mean/give me ur opinions! Dh is absolutely worn out so not sure if we're gonna fit any more bding in!! Wish Fertilityfriend would have told me when i ovulated this morning. The monitors really simple to use, it measures your hormone levels daily giving u either a low, high or peak reading. Ur meant to bd every high and peak day, to maximise chance of conception! Hope ur both ok. here's the link to my chart x http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/139770

Good luck Nicci. Not sure how the monitor works but presume high is bd time, so have fun.

Hope you've got hold of the nurse now Hayzee.

I went for scan this morning and lots of follicles around 1.2 and one at 1.5 so back on Monday and hoping nothing happens over the weekend. Asked the nurse about what next and she advised me to go for IVF. Apparently at my age there would be a 40-50% chance of success, but costs £2500-£3000 and would have to go to the clinic owned by my employer to keep same donor else would be waiting list for donor again. In some ways wish we'd had the discussion earlier as hadn't realised chance was so much higher than the 10% for IUI and might have been better to have stopped at 6 IUI attempts. But I am where I am. Will have to work out my finances over the weekend - though will have a better idea once I see what mortgage rates do on Monday (fixed-rate ends in January and am expecting a hike).

Good luck both.

nurse was supposed to call me back on tuesday but as yet i havent heard from them. I did call earlier and left a message but they still havent called me back, so no news as yet from me but as soon as i hear anything i will let you know.

How are u Izzy? ~I've finally got a high on my monitor (2nd high this morning) so here's hoping for a peak very soon. Dh is worn out already!!! made the stupid mistake of bding for fun on my low days, just to prove i didn't just want it at baby making time! cd 17 today, hayzee whats ur update?

Thanks both. Haven't been too bad today, had the odd moment but at least I held it together at work. One of my colleagues even remembered and bought me some flowers, which was really sweet.

It must have been really tough being a midwife and going through that Nicci. Hope that monitor goes high for you soon.

Sorry about your scan Hayzee. I hope they sort out your dosage soon. Maybe they will try the injections instead for you.

Take care both xx

hi issy, nicci is right we have all been through the same when my due date came for the baby i lost last xmas i had a cry just for the what might have been.
my scan went crap there was nothing so i dont think its working and the fertility nurse agreed i had a blood test to tell exactly what is going on. The nurse is going to call me tomorrow with the results and then she is going to get in touch with my gyn to see if she wants to increase my dosage or stop with the clomid altogether so i might no longer be on it just have to wait and see what will be will be.
hope u both are doing well im out of the race for the august baby but i will keep my fingers crossed for both of u xxx.

Oh Izzy i'm so sorry for you. i'm thinking of you. I know how hard it is, having gone through 3 miscarriages myself. I was midwife till feb 07. I had to quit as i was losing the plot! I'd book women from all walks of life, & watch them falling pregnant carrying to term & then i'd visit them at home after. My 3rd miscarriage was dec 06 it was then i dedcided i couldn't go on anymore. It's tuff, but you'll get through tomorrow. Going to work could actually be better for you than sitting at home alone! i've done it both ways, & being on our own is no good. Be strong, it will happen for you, it'll happen for us all!
No signs of impending ovulation for me, monitor is still registering as low!! Hayzee how was ur scan today?

Hayzee - I read somewhere that increased dosage doesn't increase the side effects. Be careful with that decorating if you're in the 2ww - try and avoid those paint / varnish fumes. If you're anything like I was the other month, you won't be able to stay in the room anyway - it's one of the main reasons that I think the nurse was right about the early mc.

I'm putting off going to bed tonight as I really don't want to wake up tomorrow. It's the day the baby I miscarried in March was due and already I keep bursting into tears. Really don't know how I'm going to get through work and wish I'd taken the day off now.

It must be coming up to ov time for you both so good luck!

hi all
well ive got my fingers crossed for both of u we could do with some good news on here. im not 100% sure about the ovarian drilling as it was only mentioned briefly to me but she said that they would drill my cysts on the ovaries which gets rid of my pcos for 12-18 months which would give me a better chance of getting pregnant. They are going to look into it after i finish my 6 cycles of clomid so hopefully if they do it and i have to go down the iui route it will give me a better chance but will have to wait until next year.
Well ive got loads of decorating at home to do (was only going to paint living room but ripping out flooring,fire place getting new units etc) so it will take my mind off this cycle but im now in the mind that clomid is not going to work for me my body seems to not like it. They was talking of putting my dosage up if it doesnt work so i hope i dont get really bad side effects.xxx

Hope you get good news on Monday Hayzee. Be thinking of you. What is ovarian drilling?

Nicci - sure you'll get your high soon, esp if you have had that dip. I've never used a CBFM, how do they work? Glad you got your hcg and thanks for checking out the post. Lots of people from another clomid thread I'm on have urged her to get it checked out, so let's hope she listens. I think some people are only monitored first cycle and others not at all. I guess unmonitored just increases chance of multiple birth as I would get my treatment cancelled if more than 3 over 1.4 - just scraped in there last time with the fourth at 1.2 - not that it did any good.

Will be having the 'what happens next' conversation when I get scanned on Friday, so see what they say, but they've previously said in passing only option is IVF, which can't afford. I do take day 2-6. First time was treated on day 13 and last time was day 11 - but both hcg triggered. Expect will be day 11 this time as clinic will force it on the Saturday, so they don't miss treating if it happens naturally on the Sunday.

Off to my cousin's wedding tomorrow - really looking forward to it, but hope I don't get too many 'when are you going to settle down and have kids' comments. Also will get asked about my brother, who unbeknown to most of my family is not at all nice and I haven't seen him for over 10 years. At least he wasn't invited to the wedding, so I can go.

Have a nice weekend xx

Hi girlies. Slowly but surely Hayzee, maybe this folicle will stick??!! fingers crossed again for you. I'm CD 11 today, & am back to using my CBFM. Got a low reading this morning which i was surprised at, thought it'd be at least a high reading being 5 days since my last clomid tablet, & as my temp dipped today. Oh well, it's all a waiting game, isn't it! Still gonna try and steer clear from POAS this month, lets see how long i last. Picked up my HCG this pm
Izzy i read lollipops post, & i have to say it sounds like OHSS, i hope it isn't & hope she's taken all your advise and gone to the DR's. Do you know if she's being monitored? It's spooked me, as i'm not gonna be monitored till i get another referral. Hope she's ok. How are you going on that clomid, do u take it 2-6 aswell? u may have mentioned b4 but memory fails me. Hayzee we may be back on track together? i'm hoping hard we ovulate soon. X

hi all
had another scan today she said she can see an egg but it is only 8mm whereas last time on day 14 it was 13mm so looks like it might not be working, gotta go back on monday for another scan just to see if it is growing but just taking its time this month. My fertility nurse also said that after my 6 months of clomid i might be able to have ovarian drilling to improve my chances.
nicci im so pleased u managed to get ur precription lets hope it works.
issy lets hope that this is ur lucky month.
xxx

Thanks Nicci.

Just saw this thread and am really concerned for lollipop. Would you guys mind taking a look and seeing what you think?

Bless you Izzy. Love ur nursery point! :0

Excellent news Nicci.

I'm an August baby. My parents moved house 9 months before I was born, so I was either goodbye old house or hello new one .

If you want to persuade your dh/dp to bd like crazy this month just point out that an August baby means a year less at nursery than a September one .

Injecting some humour today as am . I'm on another clomid thread too and the only person with a BFP this month has just had mc. How cruel can life be?

I can't get hold of my clinic - they never answer the phone - and haven't replied to my e-mails. They're usually good at responding quickly so probably just that the nurse is away, but hope it's not that they don't want me to try again as have to start the clomid tonight. Have had banging head and sore bbs all day, so I'm sure the clomid will help that!

Sending you both lots of babydust for nice big follicles. xxx

Just got my hcg prescription!!!!!!! i pestered daily, and they've finally got it written up for me.
Grow grow follicles!! & for you Hayzee.
Really sorry AF showed up Issy, it's such a rubbish familiar feeling, join us again, hope this is our month.
BFP's here we all come, an august baby would be lovely. x

Hi all. Hayzee - I've previously had nothing developing as I used to have long cycles, but it does happen eventually, so hope things look better on Friday for you.

Thanks for your hope on my behalf Nicci, but AF arrived today as expected, so back to the clomid tomorrow. I work in Human Resources, but not for a hospital, it just happens that my organisation owns the private fertility clinic. Unfortunately that doesn't mean I get reduced price treatment there, lol - in fact the clinic doesn't treat single women. Keep us informed on those temps, really hope your body does the work without the hcg.

Roll on the BFP's for us all for August babies xxx

hi
congratulations magnummun im so pleased fo you.
well i had my scan and she said that she cant see anything growing although last time i developed slow so i had a blood test to see what is going on in my ovaries. Got another scan booked for friday if nothing has happened by then i have got to have another blood test so not sure what will happen.
If i go for the iui they was talking about injecting myself instead of the clomid but until i go down that route im not really sure.

hi
congratulations magnummun im so pleased fo you.
well i had my scan and she said that she cant see anything growing although last time i developed slow so i had a blood test to see what is going on in my ovaries. Got another scan booked for friday if nothing has happened by then i have got to have another blood test so not sure what will happen.
If i go for the iui they was talking about injecting myself instead of the clomid but until i go down that route im not really sure.

Thanks for the congratulations. Pretty chuffed but trying to get my head round it all after all the ups and downs. To answer your questions Hopefulnicci, I basically had the drilling, HCG and laparoscopy on 30th July with a follow up with my fertility chap booked for 6 weeks later. (with no instruction as to what to do if AF arrived in the meantime). Suffice to say it did over the August Bank holiday so by the time I could speak to anyone at the clinic it was already day 3 of the cycle. Was told to start Clomid anyway at previous highest dose of 150 followed by 5 days of 50 and that they wouldn't bother with a scan as I was going in for follow up appointment soon anyway! Still all seemed to conspire to produce 2 littlies. Had to laugh as he scanned me at 7 weeks when I told them I was pregnant and he told me that there was definitely only one, hence our slight suprise last week to see two bouncying around. Not sure whether you'll find this inspiring or not... There does not seem to be much rhyme or reason to the whole Clomid thing.

Magnummum, Congratulations to u! that's fantastic news, & u so deserve it after all u've been through. Can i ask why the last cycle was unmonitored (as that's what's happening to me this month!) What dose of clomid were u on? did you have hcg? if so when? sorry for all the questions, i'd just love to be in ur position soon, goodluck!! x
Izzy i'm so sorry your temp dropped, i'll pray it's a one off drop (implantation!) for you, & it rises tomorrow. i'll log on first thing for your progress. What's your occupation then? do u work in a hospital? That's a brave move ur making ttc with a donor, a year and a half is a long time, i hope your wish is answered soon. Thanks for ur kind words x

Congratulations magnummum and thanks for the positive story.

Good news about your dh's cousin hayzee and glad you didn't have bad clomid side effects this time. I'm surprised that you get 6 months with clomid and then 3 IUI as usually you take clomid with the IUI and you don't have clomid for more than 6 months. Mind you my m/c was IUI without clomid as I refused to have it initially - too scared of coping with twins on my own.

Really hope you ovulate without the hcg nicci - at least the charting will help you to know what's going on.

Good luck both xxx

My temp dropped right back well below my coverline this morning so that's me definitively out for this cycle . AF should arrive later tonight/tomorrow.

Had a weird day at work. My organisation owns a private fertility clinic based in the same hospital where I get my treatment in the NHS clinic. I got an e-mail from my boss asking me to go to a meeting there next week to discuss some staff issues and turns out my NHS consultant is also the director of the private clinic and is going to be at the meeting. Totally freaked me out. Anyway declared the conflict of interest to my boss and she said that it had already been decided in the meeting she'd just come from that our team is not getting involved. Phew! Really don't want to have to go to meetings in the fertility clinic when I'm about to have my final attempt - there's a limit to how far you can be expected to be professional and having to go there if next time fails and there's no hope left would be heartbreaking. Ah well I suppose I can always go back to hoping on plan A - finding a man who both falls in love with me and instantly wants to start a family with me - that I gave up on when I started this whole donor thing a year and a half ago. Think that's as likely as me not testing early next month .

Hi there, thought this might encourage you. With Dd now 2 I got pregnant on 3rd cycle of Clomid (50mg), this time round had 6 cycles in all with dose increased each time (seems to be no rhyme or reason to what the specialist decided to do). On 5th cycle I was also given HCG jab. What my consultant very unhelpfully didn't advise on was when to do a Pregancy test so I ended up with two false positives which was pretty upsetting. I then had a laparoscopy, HSG and ovarian drilling followed by unmonitored 6th cycle of Clomid and found out last week I'm expecting twins

hi all
nicci im on the nhs and my gny referred me the fertility clinic within the hosp and so i deal with them now. I have 6 goes with the clomid and if it does not work then i have to go back and see my gny and we will then look at iui which i will get 3 goes of and if that does not work then im allowed 1 go of ivf.
hopefully u wont be taking the tabsin vain hopefully u wont need the hcg and will ovulate on ur own. xxx

Gr8 news about ur DH's cousin i'm really pleased. Izzy fingers and toes crossed, u can't give up hope yet!
As for me, no luck in getting a script for hcg. i've never seen a fertility nurse only the consultant and it was him that wrote my prescriptions. i'm on the NHS not in a position to go private. The hospital aren't giving much away with regards to how long they'll be without a fertility specialist. All they can say is they'll send correspondence via the post! Rubbish. i really hope i haven't taken the clomid in vain. Maybe thinking it won't happen this month will result in BFP wishful thinking!! I'll keep charting regardless, stay in touch girlies. x

hi all
issy im keeping my fingers crossed for you i dont show until im a wk late on a test so dont give up just yet.
nicci cant believe u aint getting hcg i dont see a doc the fertility nurse writes my prescriptions for my clomid and hcg shot so y cant they write 1 4 u.
my husbands cousin is out of the woods we really thought we were going to lose him but he is out of his coma and alert just very weak but that is 2 b expected. He will be in hosp for a while but hopefully he will b out b4 xmas.
I didnt really have a lot of side effects this month which was good. Ill let u no how i get on wednesday good luck both of u xxx

BFNs over weekend for me

I suppose I could be in the 13% of women who wouldn't get a positive yet, but I just don't feel it.

Hope you have better news.

Hi both. Hope you get good news at the hospital hayzee. Fingers crossed for a successful scan on Wednesday and thanks both so much for your kind words.

Nicci - I can't believe you can just be left in the lurch like that . Are you on NHS? If so can you be seen at another hospital just this once to get your shot? I'm amazed it's so strict - at my hospital the nurses just give it out to you so I don't even see a doctor - not even the first time I had it. If you're being treated as a private patient is there another clinic nearby you could ask to be seen at just this once? You really shouldn't have to go through all those nasty clomid symptoms for them not to follow through the treatment - very unprofessional. What's happening about your scans? Perhaps the nurses there can give you some ideas.

I am 9 dpo and will have to try really hard not to test this weekend. I bought some really cheap ones on the internet so I may allow myself to use those early and wait until Wednesday (or I get a positive on the cheapies which would be great) to use the CB digital. Got the cheapies the day after my IUI, so tried one out and even then only had a faint line. They also don't tell you how long to dip for and have different instructions on the box (any line) than on the packet (line has to be as dark as control line), so I'm not convinced they're that great - but I did only buy the 25mIU as I know when to expect a negative from hcg shot with that strength.

Have been feeling really out of it today so hoping it's pg symptom and not onset of a cold.

Fingers crossed for us all x.

Hi u 2! Issy it doesn't matter that we're out of sync, one of us has to get a bfp first!! are u 9dpo now? try and stay positive what will be will be hey!? at least u know the hcg is out of ur system so if u can hang on for another 5 days.........easier said than done hey? coming from a serial tester. i'm taking the clomid at night time, only symptom so far are headaches! hope i don't get any other side effects.
just to let u know, the doctor i've been seeing/referred to has been suspended!!! so i javen't got any hcg for this month, and can't get a prescription as the GP won't sanction it, and there isn't another fertility doctor in my area at the mo. Typical. Don't suppose u know if u can get hold of it without a script?? Either that or i just have to pray that by the time i need it there's another consultant in his place!! Dramas!!!
Hayzee wish u & ur family well this wkend. x

hi all
wont be on here over the wkend as going to hosp n staying over nite.
glad im off the tabs i felt hot then cold every 2 mins was doing hubbys head in with the fan on/off. Got my 12 day scan on wed so hopefully will have some follicles growing not that it did much good last time as i had 2 n it didnt work but we must keep our fingers crossed.
just hoping that it doesnt mess my periods up again its stressful enough without it mucking my body up as well.
issy i no what u mean about saying ur not gonna do this n your not gonna do that but we always end up doing it cos we all get our hopes up even if its only a little bit we have all been through so much and this is a good chance 4 us all.
Hope u have a nice wkend xxx

Hi both,

I seem to be totally out of sync with you both. Hope you both get some nice, big, good-quality follicles developing soon.

My not symptom spotting, not testing philosophy has gone out of the window. I tested today and it was negative so that's the hcg out of my system. Trouble is since tests stayed positive for so much longer last month, I'm now wondering whether you stay positive the whole way through if it's worked. Also thought I had some pg symptoms (nausea, heightened sense of smell, -TMI warning- lots of white CM, slight constipation, sharp needle-like pains, metallic taste), but they've pretty much disappeared over the last two days, so must have been the hcg or other causes. I hate that hcg stays in your system so long that you begin to believe you might be pg. If it hasn't worked this time with three good follicles and a smaller one for back up, I can't see when it ever will .

Hayzee - hope when dh's cousin next wakes up he will be more stable.

Take care both and hope you both had a symptom-free clomid taking time.

ive already started my clomid im on 100mg take it on days 2-6 same as you. I take my last tab tomorrow so we r going to be in the same boat together lets hope its a sign and we r gonna get some good news.
dh cousin woke up yesterday but they had to put him back under as his body cant cope so its safer for him to be in the coma we are going back to the hospital on sat so hopefully we will have better news.
take care speak to you soon xxx

Baby dust to you Issy, i'm gonna take that approach this cycle, i'm done with poas!!!!! never thought i'd say that. think i'm just gonna watch my temps (cheaper that way) & they seem to indicate what ur body's planning on doing. When do u start ur clomid Hayzee, or have u already? what dose are you on? x

So sorry AF arrived Nicci.

Glad DH's cousin is improving Hayzee.

Good luck for next time both.

I'm only a week into the 2ww and it feels like forever. Trying not to symptom spot as hcg will still be in my system anyway, but keep obsessing about every little thing and not sure how much longer I can hold out without testing - hcg shot should be gone any day now.

Take care xxx

Thanks Hayzee, but AF arrived for me 2 minutes ago! so guess we're back on track together. CD 1 for me. Gonna start the clomid again tomorrow i think 100mg cd2-6. He we go again!! Glad your brothers cousin is showing signs of improvement. x How's everyone else doing?

hi all
thanks for all the warm wishes my husbands cousin seems to be improving but until he wakes up we wont no.
My period finally arrived yipee never been so glad to get my period lol so im back on the clomid currently on day 3.
Nicci keeping my fingers crossed for u xxx

Oh nicci - I really hope it was a one off drop for you. Did you leave the window open last night or wake up much earlier than usual?

Fingers crossed for you.

Well girlies HCG shot was out of my system by 9 dpo (using ultra sensitive 10 miu hpt's) At 11 dpo today and temp has taken a huge dip right down to my coverline! i guess if it's still down tomorrow then thats it, another month bites the dust i guess on the positive side, at least my LP has gone beyond it's recent 9 days (half way there i suppose) Guess there's alot to be said for not obsessing, please pray for me that my temp goes back up tomorrow, i'm beginning to think it's never gonna happen. Please check out my chart, it'll probably make more sense then ((http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/139770)) x

Just wondering how everyone is? How's the daily poas going nicci?

I realised that the only time I didn't do any early testing was my first IUI attempt which did lead, at least briefly, to me being pg. So this time am going to do the same and no symptom spotting either ... apart from wondering whether the sharp needle like pains on my right hand side yesterday and day before mean anything and looking around the ankles for swollen lumps!!! Not symptom spotting, honest !

Hi Hayzee. Sorry to hear your news. Hope he gets well soon.

Wondered if something was up Hayzee having not heard from u. I wish your husbands cousin well, & that he makes a quick recovery. How scary for you all. Once again my thoughts are with u. x

hi all sorry havent been on but my husbands cousin who is like a brother to him has been rushed to hospital and is in an induced coma so been to hospital which is 60 miles away.

how are you all doing i stopped taking the provera on monday and i think they said that i should expect a period 1-2 wks after the last tab so just waiting for it to arrive.

Hope this month you all get good news.
speak to you soon xxx

Yeah Eis, that's just the best news Here's hoping the rest of us get there soon. x

Congratulations Eis - - that's fantastic news. Sending you lots of babydust for a sticky bean.

Sorry to hear AF arrived Miloopy .

Realised when I got home and read instructions that I had given incomplete information about my Ovitrelle - the strength is 250 micrograms / 0.5ml which is apparently equivalent to 6500 IU, so it must be taking me a little longer than 1000 per day to get out of my system. Nurse said that my strange results last cycle sounded like a very early mc to her. Let's hope that one of these follicles produces a sticky bean this time.

Take care all.

I just wanted to give you guys an update.. I had bloodwork today (31 days) and they confirmed that I am pregnant! I can't beleive it! I feel like I am in a dream. They said my HCG levels were at 328 and they want to check them again in 48 hours to make sure they are rising as expected. I really can't beleive it... I really hope & pray that each of you experience this success in the near future,too... I know it will happen for you!

Oh Miloopy i'm really sorry AF showed. I understand how emotionally draining it can be (i'm certain everyone else here can agree too). Maybe the break will do you good. Christmas i suppose is time to try and distract yourself from ttc (so many people tell me it'll happen when you stop trying so hard!-much easier said than done however!) I wish u well, stay in touch with us. x

No luck for me this month, period came early. I am giving the injections a rest until after Christmas, I have found it all quite stressful and need a break for a while. Good luck to everyone else, I shall keep my fingers crossed for you.

Just a quick update from me as am at work. Had scan this morning (only day 9) and already have four follicles over 1mm (2.3, 1.7, 1.6 and 1.2). Quite a shock to be so many so big already and apparently I had one of the sonographers who tends to measure small, so they are probably bigger. OPKs first thing and at lunchtime both negative though so have to use the Ovitrelle tonight for treatment Wednesday. Womb lining only 6mm so hope it thickens. Maybe having side effects with Clomid is a good sign afterall.

My Ovitrelle is 0.5ml, so I must process it slowly as def usually takes 10 days to clear. Maybe last month I got a higher dose and that's why it stayed in my system longer, although the nurse I spoke with today thinks I had a very early mc last month.

Nicci - I get early pg symptoms after hcg shot, especially the morning sicknessy feeling, but they usually go away after about a week.

Good luck everyone. Hope you get good news from the doctor Eis.

Welcome Eis, I have to say Issy your last post was v informative! & I totally agree with what you've said. Just wanted to wish u, & of course now Eis, goodluck for tomorrow. Hope to here some positive news tomorrow pm. x
Hayzee hows things? Any signs of AF yet? I've never taken provera, how long do u take it for? When is AF meant to start after taking it? Thinking of u. x
My end, 4 dpo, nausea mild cramps/full feeling, constipation, mild heartburn & my nose has had a small bleed every morning since ovulation when blowing it!! (yes i know it's too early for symptoms but i just can't stop obsessing!) All side effects of raised progesterone & thanks to the Hcg shot, no doubt (this time i only had 5000iu -so like a true peeonastickaholic!! i'm poas daily just to see when it does leave my system, should be interesting). Spk soon

Thank you Issy42. It really helps to hear other people's stories... I am going to call my Dr tomorrow (hoping that I don't start my per overnight) and see if they think it is too soon to do a blood test... crossing my fingers, too!

Hi Eis, welcome to our little group. I think we've all asked your question at some point so I will attempt to summarise our thoughts.

At my clinic, they tell me not to trust a positive until 3 weeks after the injection as that is what the manufacturers say. They have however also told me that if you get to about 17 DPO with no period that's a very good sign.

Nicci/Hayzee - sorry can't remember which of you said this - has been told that it leaves your system at 1000 units a day so if you had the 10000 shot it should be clear by day 10.

This ties up with my previous experience where I have tested negative 10 days after the hcg injection (after previous positives). I have also read that if you test negative and then positive again in similar circumstances (eg both fmu) then you probably are pg.

A note of caution though. This month (my first with clomid and hcg) I didn't test negative until 13 days after the injection, then was negative for two days then had a positive again (although it may have been a dodgy test as the control line had a dot missing out of it) and then tested negative and got AF the day after the positive. Could have been the injection, a chemical pregnancy or a faulty test. I did wonder whether the Clomid affected the hcg too.

Testing positive 15 days after sounds hopeful so I'm cautiously optimistic for you. Good Luck and fingers crossed for you! xx

Hi,
I am new to his post, but have found many of the conversations helpful. My husband & I have been trying for over a year to get pregnant. We have done 6 months of Clomid and 2 rounds of IUI. My last HCG injection was 15 days ago(Oct 18th) and the last IUI was Oct 20th. I just took a HPT that was positive. I am afraid to get my hopes up because could the HCG injection still be in my body? Has anyone found the HCG injection to last beyond 14 day or could this really be a true pregnancy? It is Sunday, so I can't call the Dr until tomorrow....

hi nicci n issy
no im not having iui just go 2 hosp 4 my scans follicle tracking n then if n when there is an egg they inject me with my hcg shot.
good luck 2 both of u im still on the provera getting loads of stomach cramps which must mean that they r working. xx

Thanks nicci - nice to know you're looking out for me. I suspect that I will be treated next Fri/Sat so won't be too far behind you. Good luck!

Issy i was just logging on to ask after u! Lots of luck for Monday, positives vibes to u!! i'm officially 3 dpo (according to FF), it's the exciting bit of the TWW, hurry up and release that egg & we can be in it together again! x

Hi nicci - great news. Here's hoping you have a BFP in a couple of weeks.

I've just taken my last clomid for this cycle. Had a hot flush in the middle of the night last night, but no headache today. First scan on Monday (I go on day 10 as previously ov'd on day 11 and missed treatment) so let's hope there's a couple of good eggs developing.

Hayzee are you having IUI at your clinic or just the scans, if you don't mind me asking?

no going to take the provera n then went my period arrives ill just start the clomid again n then go 2 hosp 4 my scans n have the hcg shot when its needed.
im so glad this month is going so well 4 u n u finally get pregnant without the need 4 the tabs.x

Hows everyone doing? i'm quite excited, as i got a peak on my monitor all on my own (no clomid this cycle!) decided to give myself the hcg afterall, on the day of peak, as i remember the doctor saying i don't release the eggs on my own, so hopefully this will do the trick, now i'm just waiting for FF (fertility friend) to tell me when/if i ovulated! Hayzee are you going to try charting this cycle?

hi nicci
well i done another test yesterday n it came up negative so i figure that if i was pregnant then surely it would have shown by now. I decided to start taking the provera this morning there is no point delaying it i might as well just close the chapter on the 1st round and get ready 4 round 2 which hopefully will be alot better. Got to keep ur chin up n hope for the best. Hopefully we will all get pregnant b4 xmas n it would b the most wonderful pressie ever. xxx

Hayzee, i totally understand not wanting to take the tabs. I find it strange that you haven't yet had a period, as if you weren't pregnant the clomid and hcg together would regulate ur cycle causing a bleed, wouldn't they?. Maybe (don't wanna get your hopes up) but there's always the slim chance because you have irregular long cycles there's still a possibility u might be (despite the negative beta). Personally i'd wait for a period too- unless they can do an USS to see what's going on, if anything. Hope u find out soon.

hi everyone
thats good news about your reading nicci
no sign of my period yet i have decided im not going to take the tabs as i emailed a fertility dr on the net and he has told me that it is highly unusual to be this late as i had the hcg shot as the clomid can make u late if taken on its on but it should not affect u if taken with the shot. Not sure what to do for the best, i know if i take the tabs i can get on with the next round but still unsure if bringing on my period is the right thing to do until im 100% sure im going to wait. Sorry i have not been on for a while but had so much going on here xmas shopping etc. Lets hope we all get some good news soon xxx.

Excellent news nicci , hope this is your month.

Well girlies, i've got a glimmer of hope this morning, cd 17 for me, & i got a 'HIGH' reading on my monitor!! Here's hoping for that peak to follow shortly. Where are u at now Hayzee any sign of AF?

Thanks nicci, will definitely keep in touch. Any sign of ov for you yet? Here's hoping you will have a BFP on both OPK and HPT this cycle. I'll take more notice of what strength Ovitrelle I'm on this month, but I may not need it as CD14 will be a Friday.

Thanks for the info, thought it might be to good to be true, I shall keep my fingers crossed and wait! Good luck to everyone in the same boat. We will get there.

Izzy i'm so sorry for you, i'm thinking of you & sending lots of strength your way for the nxt cycle. Personally i'd take today as cd1 if AF is in full flow. We'll be there for you throughout the journey ahead to our bfp's. Keep in touch x
Miloopy, i was told it takes approx 10-14 days for the hcg to leave ur system depending on the strength they gave u. Was it 5000 or 10000? Goodluck & sticky vibes your way if it is bfp.x h

miloopy - my clinic says you can't trust a test for 3 weeks, but up until this week, I've always had a positive test up to day 8/9 after hcg then a negative two days later. This time though was positive 12 days after injection and maybe even last night (14 days after) and am not pg as AF arrived today. So in future I'm just not going to test until I'm late (at least that's the plan). Good luck, hope you have some good news in a week or so.

I had a hcg trigger last Saturday and had FSH injections rather than Clomid. I have just tested and it came up positive but from what this thread is saying that doesn't mean I am necessarily pregnant does it????

Thanks Nicci. Unfortunately had temp nosedive today and tested anyway but used the last cheap Sainsbury one as I knew I was wasting my time. It was of course BFN and AF now just starting . Now I'm not sure when to start Clomid as I'm sure last month I got told to take first tablet on second full day of period and not to count the first day unless period started before noon. I rang clinic yesterday and got told day 1 is if it starts before 6pm (by the nurse the others all check everything with). Since spotting started just before noon, I'm sure will have full AF before 6pm. Why can't they give you consistent advice? Maybe I'll start a thread to ask what others are told.

Babydust to us all for next cycle. I will now be testing next around time mc baby was due and is day of my cousin's wedding so is going to be emotional. Am going to try to just test if late though.

Thanks cutekids, it's gr8 to here your story. I'd love nothing more than to have 3 kids. i really hope i'm able to be in your position 10 years from now. x

haven't read the full thread but just thought i'd share with you: I was taking the Clomid and having the HCG.I'm going back x 11 years now.After about my 4th/5th injection (was on Clomid for a while before started having injection too), I conceived.My dd1 is now 10 and then....I conceived "naturally" x twice and I now have three: 10,9 and 8!!!!so hope that's what you wanted to hear !

Izzy it's so confusing isn't it, everyone says use the digital tests, then there isn't the confusion of is there a line isn't there a line etc etc. But i just find the 'not pregnant' word so depressing & final. I think i kinda like the obsessing over the lines (i take the digitals apart anyway, regardless of the bfn just so that i can check those lines), LOL! I really hope u get a bfp this morning, after 6 IUI cycles i think it's ur time! x Hayzee, sorry AF hasn't arrived yet, hope it happens soon so that u can start the nxt cycle with me! Know doubt i'll still be waiting for O by the time u join me! It's naff just waiting for the nxt cycle to start isn't it?! Still thinking of u x

Was posting about tests on another thread and my resolve went and just did test. It was a cheapy Sainsbury which I've had no problems with previously, but Tuesday night did two and got a faint line in the test window but an incomplete line in the control window (false positive due to hcg shot). I had a negative cb digital on Wednesday am and two clear negative Sainsburys ones on Wed eve and Thurs am. Way too much testing I know but it's just because of the injection. This time got same as Tues - a line in the test window but very, very faint this time but an incomplete control line. Don't know what to make of that. I'm going to try and ignore it and see what the clearblue digital gives tomorrow. Only have one left else would be tempted to test again tonight. Still feel periody though, definite cramps and the hcg shot means can't trust a positive until Thursday. I need a 'confused' smiley to end this post.

Hi nicci - had another bfn yesterday, small temperature drop today and feeling periody, so not holding up much hope. I think tomorrow's temperature will answer for me, though it's often higher on weekends as I sleep in.

I think it's good to give your body a rest from the drugs. I really don't like having hcg because of the false positives, but my clinic doesn't treat on Sundays, so have to have it if there's a risk of missing the right time. Would be so much easier to have a dh instead of di . Good luck!

Hayzee - hope your body sorts itself out soon.

hi nicci

no it still hasnt arrived beginning 2 think the tabs have made my cycle so much worse than they was b4 as im now on day 46 n i have never gone this long n the nurse said there is a chance of the same happening again nxt month. They are going 2 c how it goes n dont no if they will up the dosage or try me on something else. So im gonna wait a bit longer b4 i take the tabs as feel taking tabs has mucked my body up enough n dont want 2 mess it up even more. Just waiting yet again. Dont think these tabs are gonna work 4 me but suppose i will just have 2 take each day at a time n c wot happens.

Hi Izzy, any news? I'm currently cd 14 CBFM (clearblue fertility monitor) still registering low! Having a month off the clomid/hcg in the hope i may ovulate on my own, lol!! How are you doing Hayzee, did AF arrive on it's own yet? Here's to getting our BFP in November!!! x

Thanks for the info hayzee. I don't know what strength I had, my hospital is not good at details and I've already recycled the box, but I'm pretty sure it has been the same every time. Tested negative today though on a test which is 87% on day -3 so probably not preg, just got excited especially as yesterday's test was in the evening, so less likely to be positive. I hate this waiting phase.

hi issy
what strength shot r u on i was on 10,000 and i was told not to test until 14 days after as it can give u a false positive, although some people say allow 1,000 for every day.I dont think the clomid makes the hcg stay in your system 4 longer, But i will keep my fingers crossed that u r pregnant it would b nice 2 hear some good news.

Sorry to read your news hayzee. I've just had my first cycle on clomid, but have had hcg injections 3 x before. Hospital says not to test for 3 weeks after injection, but previously miscarried at nearly 5 weeks, so test to see if hcg out of system. Usually test is positive 8/9 days after injection and negative two days later. This cycle, my 6th IUI attempt, have tested positive for last 4 days (9 to 12 after injection) using same tests. Was wondering whether clomid affects how long hcg stays in system? Difficult not to get excited as way too early, but also had strong reaction to paint fumes in my office yesterday - couldn't stay in room, felt so sick. Prob reading too much into it. Af due Saturday, so keeping fingers crossed.

hi i no its good 2 have someone to talk to who is going through the same as you. We can both have our ups n downs n no exactly how the other one is feeling. I aint gonna start the provera just yet im gonna wait a few days 2 c if i start on my own i think my body has had enough interference from tabs n it aint done any good so far. Everyone is saying ur putting 2 much pressure on urself n try not 2 think bout it but its hard cos ur life seems to get taken over by tabs hospital appointments etc. I no ive got another 5 goes left but part of me does not want to carry on cos of the heartache involved but unless i try i will spend the rest of my life wondering. Thats enough of me moaning lol. Yep ill be on here same as usual as i need 2 c how my clomid buddy is doing. Hopefully u wont be waiting ages 4 ur period n we can get back on the tabs n hopefully fingers crossed get some better news next month. xx

Oh Hayzee, i'm really sorry for you, it sucks doesn't it i really thought u'd have positive news. Why does it have to be so hard, it sucks. I'm still testing like a looney!! temp dropped almost to my coverline this morning & i'm still in denial. Ovulation sticks are all low. Bet i don't ovulate this month, and i'll be waiting months for a period (PCOS V.IRREGULAR). Hope u'll stick around for our nxt cycle, it's nice to have someone to talk it over with. Have a big fat glass of wine tonight!! thinking of u x

got the results n im def not preggers im fine bout it as i didnt think i was, just goes to show that clearblue aint what they r cracked up 2 b. I even showed the nurse the test n even she said it was def pos so cant understand y. Cos its so long since my last period she has gave me a prescription for provera to induce my period. So ill soon be on round 2.

how r u doing without the tabs?

can't wait to here ur news! Praying it's bfp for u, (& for me v.soon) x

just a quick update

i phoned nurse cos got another pos n neg n she has asked me 2 go in 4 a blood test at least i will no wots going on. When i get the results i will let u no. I think i aint its just the clearblue giving dodgy results as they have got a bad write up on the net. Speak 2 u later xx

i have ordered 5 tests for 5.99 with 3 post n package n they r early tests 10 miu so going 2 wait till i recieve them which should b on monday. I am now officially late n with no sign of period thinking maybe tabs have made me late.
how r u doing?
i live in dagenham n there are pound shops near me but i dont think they are sensitive enough as when i was pregnant it didnt show.

Where do u live? have u got a pound shop near u? or a savers? they do their own hpt's, u get 2 for £1 in the pound shop or one for 99p in savers, they detect 10 miu which is really really sensitive FR are the nxt sensitive, clearblue needs 25 miu. Hope u get the result b4 wed x

the tests i used yesterday were clearblue n they were out of the same box. The 1 i used 2day was also a clearblue but from a different box. my cm is very thick n creamy gonna have 2 wear a panty liner if it carries on. well i need 2 no b4 wednesday as have dentist n going 2 b sedated (im a big fat wimp lol) n cant have it done if pregnancy is suspected. i am currently 21 days past ovulation but i never miss a period i no i get my period 28-35 days after last day of bleed (weird i no but thats how my body works its the pcos).

Well i totally sympathise if it's any consolation, having got a positive at 9 dpo and now bfn's. i'm holding out hope for both of us Hayzee as i still don't believe my bleed was a period. i don't think ur test would have been faulty, are u using the same brand? which one is it? even the same brands can detect differing amounts of hcg u know! i'd say wait a few days like u plan and try again. What is ur cervical mucus like? sorry for personal question, but i've still got ewcm which i find weird, and my temps still haven't dropped below my coverline, in fact they're going back up! spk later i hope. x

well done a test n it says neg. Guess the test was dodgy. Im due 2day so i guess ill just have to wait n see what happens but if i havent had my period by wednesday/thursday then ill try again. Getting a bit fed up with it now. Dont think im preg just think that maybe all the meds have just messed up my cycle. I no last time i was nearly a wk late b4 it showed but after yesterday i have gave up all hope now. Anyway ill let u no what happens xx

Hayzee, what's ur news this morning

Oh my god hayzee i'm so pleased for u! they say u can get a false negative but u can't get a false positive!! guess it's worked for u girly!!! Were the tests the same brand? if so whichone? how many days post ovulation are u now?? i'd say the second one was probably nedative cause u hadn't waited long enough to allow the hcg to build back up in ur urine. Unbelievable girly!! it's fantastic news i can't wait to join u. Please keep in touch.x

hi nicci
i just want 2 scream.
i done a pregnacy test about anhour ago n i got a positive it wasnt faint but not exactly dark either if u no wot i mean. I done another one bout 10 mins later n it came up neg i did have a drink in between n instead of weeing on the stick i decided that i would pee in an old plastic cup. So not sure what to think, the 1st one came up in the 3 mins they allow but not sure if drink diluted urine or if cup contaiminated urine or if the 1st is a doddgy test. So now im going 2 buy some more n test in the morning when it should be stronger. i hate my body went from elation to numb to confusion. dont no wot 2 think

thanxs for the kind thoughts. We all cling 2 hope no matter how small it may b. Lets hope that it works this month n then u can stick ur finger up 2 the clomid lol.

I haven't taken the clomid this cycle cause i just wasn't sure about the bleed being a period, i'm still in denial! tests are bfn. guess by the time i accept it hasn't worked it'll be time to start bd'ing again!! guess we'll just have to have a meds free month! & c what happens, i'm still charting so i'll be able to see if the clomid has kick started my cycle (PRAYING I OVULATE ON MY OWN) hope u get ur bfp this weekend.x

no im not gonna keep testing cos it gets me down if i see a neg. The way my periods were pre clomid was that i would get my period approx 28-35 days after my bleed, but i rarely went the full 35 days. The latest i am due on is sat so im gonna test at the weekend, but i might not show if i am cos last time i didnt show untill 5 days after the 35 but unfortunately it ended in a miscarriage.
No havent heard from ray hope everything is ok.
what have ur tests been saying?
have u started taking ur tabs again?
if i do test b4 the weekend then ill let u no as sometimes i get a bee in my bonnet n do 1 anyway. take care x

Oh Hayzee sound like ur having a really trying week. Bout time for some good news indeed! After 4 days of light bleeding i stopped and am still obsessing as i now have ewcm and all sorts of twinges/ cames down in the uterus. Still testing! lol!! have u tested again? Any sign of af Ray? hope not x

i know i complained and said that i wasnt given enough information regarding the clomid. They only tell u the basics, the way i took it was that i should have a period by the sat she told me 2 test but in fact that is the earliest they recommend u test due 2 the injection. I feel like absolute crap came down with the flu n i dont want to take any med just in case im preg so im suffering. Also i went to get pertrol last night n got hit by a driver who had no insurance, license or tax. My car is brand new only bought it from fords 6mths ago n so ive gt to foot the bill for the repairs so im not having a good wk. Hope ur both ok xx

Wow Hayzee thats really promising, helps me out too as i didn't realise clomid can make ur period earlier! fingers x

sorry to hear ur bleeding again nicci fingers crossed that this cycle will b the 1 sending extra baby dust ur way x

hi ladies
finally got my phone call returned from nurse, she said the tabs can make u period earlier, not change, or lengthen so ive got 2 wks from sat just gone to test if no period by 27 then ive got 2 go n have a blood test cos some women dont always show on a hpt till they are so many days late (im one of them). So back to the waiting game 4 me im gonna go by my original dates pre clomid n go from there according to them im due on sat so ill test then. Feel like im still in with a chance but we will have to see.
hope ur both ok n thinking of u x

God i'm so flat. the bleeding came back, so i guess i could say i'm cd 5 as all hpt's (yes i'm still testing!! nuts!!) are bfn. wish i knew why i've bled 9 dpo if clomids meant to help lengthen the LF. How are you 2 doing any news?

Hi Nicci,

Its a god sign the bleeding has stopped perhaps was bedding in bleed you never know. It seems to early for AF and if is AF then def to early are you seeking specalist.

Hi Hayzee, ive heard that clomid makes you regular too but also that it can lengthen LP as its used for people that have V short LP to try and help them.
I'm the same as u and getting very fed up with the ifs and buts and also with this damn headache that the clomid seems to be causing. Have you had any side effects.

Ps sure Af is on her way. Had sore bbs and true to form they have now gone, when that happens Af usually arrives within 24hrs. watch this space another month will be over. On to month 55 maybe a lucky number for me !!!! not likely.

hi nicci im glad the bleeding has finally stopped whats going to happen now r u going to take that as ur period ? maybe u should call ur nurse to find out what it could have been.ive still got no period it is possible that im just late but iwhen i spoke to the nurse she said when ur on clomid it makes u reg as it determines the cycle? anyway im getting fed up with the ifs and maybes just want to know one way or the other. will do the test tomorrow but getting fed up with seeing a big fat negative it disheartens u.

opps sorry that should have read 'despite', i'm sure u understood

Hi Hayzee, think the bleedings gone, hope it stays away. still gonna carry on testing depite gettting bfn's now! i sound bonkers but am hoping so so hard that i'm still in with a chance despite the blood loss. Still thinkin of u x

hi ray sorry to hear about iui not working seemed from what u said that u had a good chance i cant imagine how u felt. As nicci said dont give up hope its only 13 dpo u could have tested 2 early. im 16 dpo n i done a test on yesterday n it said neg but until i get my period im keeping my fingers crossed as i dont show till im a wk late.
hi nicci how r u hope ur keeping well still no sign of my period so going to wait till tues 2 do another test, if its still neg going to call my fertility nurse n go from there. Not sure what they might suggest as its my first month on this so got no experience to go from.
good luck to u all x.

Sorry to hear that Ray The IUI failing must have been reall hard. I'd say ur still in with a chance this cycle though as ur only 13 dpo, some people don't det bfp till a week late (or longer) Stay positive! i'm trying, despite still bleeding (been over 48 hrs now-i'm currently 11 dpo) keep us posted.

hi,

ive just had my first moth on clomid and its 13dpo did test yesterday and was big fat neg so know it hasnt worked.

I also had iui in may and had 3 eggs 50 million sperm and it failed. its a bitch.

i realy hope it works for you guys.

im so sorry im thinking of u i understand how hard it is seems all we get dished is a bucketful of disappoinment. Just look after urself x

im so sorry im thinking of u i understand how hard it is seems all we get dished is a bucketful of disappoinment. Just look after urself x

It sounds promising. i've still gotta pray as still bleeding, and now showing bfn clutching at straws but still hoping i'm in with a chance. thinking of u.

sorry comp playin up

sorry to hear that ur bleeding im keeping my fingers crossed for u. I done another test this morning and it said neg but no sign of period either. I dont usually show on a test till im a wk late so just hoping there isnt enough in my urine to show yet as i usually know when im going 2 get my period as i can feel the pressure. Got to keep hoping it aint over until she rears her ugly head. Im feeling a bit crappy today but we have got to be hopeful i no its not easy ive had everyone telling me that its early days etc but they dont understand all they have got 2 do is drop their knickers n they r preggers. If i dont get my period by tues ill do another test n let u no either way n u do the same x

sorry to hear that ur bleeding im keeping my fingers crossed for u. I done another test this morning and it said neg but no sign of period either. I dont usually show on a test till im a wk late so just hoping there isnt enough in my urine to show yet as i usually know when im going 2 get my period as i can feel the pressure. Got to keep hoping it aint over until she rears her ugly head. Im feeling a bit crappy today but we have got to be hopeful i no its not easy ive had everyone telling me that its early days etc but they dont understand all they have got 2 do is drop their knickers n they r preggers. If i dont get my period by tues ill do another test n let u no either way n u do the same x

You've got a gr8 chance if there were two follicles! Got my fingers crossed for u. At least u know the shot is out of our system! I started bleeding at work today i don't know how i'm feeling, other than confused & numb, as i've tested this pm and got a faint BFP on a FR test. I'm going to bed, praying hard for both of us! x

well i done a test a little while ago and it said negative so suppose ive just got to wait till my period arrives. I called hosp and asked them how long my cycle should be and they told me to do a test first thing tomorrow as that was the date i had been given and if nothing has happened by tues then ive got to do another one if that still says neg then ive got to call them back up. I just look at it like it hasnt worked n i had a good chance as i had 2 follicles so whats the chances of it even working. Ill let u know what happens if anything or if i finally get my period x.

Personally i think it'd be out of your system by now. Let me know ur outcome should u test. x

i had my injection on the 25 september first thing in the morning. The nurse told me that if hadnt had a period by 11 october then i should do a test. im currently on day 31, but i dont show on a preg test until a few days after my period but not sure when i should come on or if i should stick to how i used to go b4 starting the tabs.

hi there, yes i had 10,000 shot. they said it takes about 1,000 a day to metabolise. so approx 10 days and it should be out of your system. When did u take urs?

i done a test earlier but the test line was quite faint and there was a faint line also but im going to take it as though the test didnt work but might get another cos im dying to know if it has def worked. Do u think it would be out of my system? how long have u been told to do a test after the shot? also did u have the 10,000 shot? sorry about all the questions lol.

It's been 8 days since my shot & it's no longer giving me a positive so it's already out of my system. 16 days seems like a long time to wait.(hmm)

lets keep our fingers crossed im the same when did u have ur shot i was told to wait 16 days after cos u can get a false positive. Must admit im terrible for testing as well but u cant help it can u.

An increase in cm sounds like a good sign to me, keep me posted. i may test this weekend also, even though i know it's probably too early-i'm a serial tester, can't help myself! just got 10 first response tests through the door this morning (got them on ebay for just £8! Wish i'd done that in the past i've wasted so much money on bfn's! Hopefully not this time.

lets hope so, i thought i might of got my period yesterday as had a few cramps but nothing so far also having increased amount of discharge not sure if its a pregnancy symptom or my bodys way of saying not worked this month but ill have 2 wait n c. If i dont get my period b4 sat then ive gotta test so im keeping my fingers crossed. Good luck n loads of baby dust x

Hayzee thats gr8, u only need one egg afterall to make a baby!!! hope it works for you. Fingers x the IUI went well for u bamboo. I'm not being scanned no. Just had to wait foy LH surge (using CBFM) to give myself the hcg trigger shot. Should be 6 dpo today, temps are still elevated so i'm hopeful Baby dust to us all, lets get those bfp's together. x

Just had my first shot today! Am having IUI tomorrow.

well whilst i was on the tabs i was like a mad woman but no pregnancy symptoms as of yet. This was my 1st cycle of clomid, and i suffer from pcos. D u have scans? i had scan and there was 2 follicles so im in with a chance i suppose but not getting my hopes up just incase.

Super. Pleased to hear i'm not alone! keep in touch, any symptoms yet?

hi im on clomid as well as hcg injection waiting to test at the next weekend if i dont have a period b4 then

Looking for others who took clomid & hcg. I'm currently 4dpo & could really do with some sucess stories or anyone in a similar boat to me, to help me stay positive!