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to interpret this email as a kiss-off from my 'friend'? Long, sorry.

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dismissed · 15/05/2012 21:50

Have name-changed.

I have/had a friend; I will call her Lois. Lois and I work in the same field, but it is a sort of freelance/work from home set-up (so rarely actually see one another in a workplace). We met about four years ago, and became close. Lois and her DP, along with another couple, were the people DH and I would see most regularly - dinner parties at one another's homes, nights at the pub, that usual sort of thing. I also saw Lois regularly on my own; we'd have coffee or go out for drinks, and we confided in one another as friends do. I would not have been especially close to Lois's DP, or she to my DH, but we all got along.

When I met Lois I was a single, childless woman. DH and I married and I have a family of five now. I did see a bit less of Lois as a result, but we continued to socialise, to talk about work, and everything seemed to be OK. The one problem we did have was this: Lois was quite friendly with a woman who had done something underhanded to my DH and I (no, not an affair!). This other woman - I will call her Enid - works in the same field, and travels in the same social circles. I want nothing whatsoever to do with her, but have tried to simply keep my distance from her. I have never complained to Lois about her own friendship with the woman, and have never deliberately done anything to 'stir the pot' or inflame tensions; in fact, I think I have been pretty cowardly about the whole thing and just tried to avoid Enid because I am a bit afraid of her.

Now, let me get to the point. Last winter, Lois and her DP were married. I hosted a small party for them, at my home, which seemed to be a success. DH and I attended the wedding. All was fine, although I did get an email in advance 'warning' me that Enid would be there, which irritated me a bit as I was well aware that Enid would be there and was hardly going to make a scene, and had never made a scene previously, so thought "why is she saying this?"

Not long after the wedding, DH and I threw a special dinner party, marking an annual occasion and tradition, to which we have invited Lois and her DP and our other 'best couple', each year. Lois had actually asked a couple of months before if we would be having the event, and accepted the invite happily; then, a few days before the date she emailed to say that they were overwhelmed with work and could not come. I was surprised and a bit hurt, but accepted it at face value.

After that, though, Lois simply stopped communicating with me. I let it go, as I thought she was busy, and I was quite busy myself. As time passed, though, and after several casual attempts at contact went ignored, it was obvious something was going on. I racked my brain but cannot see any way that I offended her...I figured it had to be either that she felt I was neglecting the friendship since becoming a mum, or this business with Enid, who would be perfectly capable of smearing me if she had the chance!

I finally emailed her the other day (editing these as minimally as possible!)

Hi Lois

I feel as though I really ought to say something. Since your wedding and [our dinner party], you haven't seemed to want to have anything to do with me. I can't help but feel that I am missing something. Have I unintentionally done something to offend you? If you don't wish to discuss it, obviously that is your choice, but I really do feel as though there is something going on that I am quite unaware of, and I would like the chance to respond or put it right if I have hurt you in some way.

All the best,
dismissed

She wrote me back:
Hi dismissed,

Nice to hear from you. I have not been sure why we haven't been in touch with each other either. I did try getting in touch once, but we are both busy and maybe it got overlooked. Anyway, I am fine with how things are now.
All the best to you too.

See you around,
Lois


Am I wrong, or is this a complete blow-off? She says 'nice to hear from you', but goes on to say 'I am fine with how things are now' - ie, I don't want to rebuild the friendship. She signs it "see you around", which is totally dismissive. I thought my email was quite direct and even conciliatory, and I would have liked the respect of an equally direct reply, even if it were to tell me off about something - but this just seems like she in evading the topic and treating me as someone she once knew rather distantly, not even an ex-friend!

Am I being unreasonable? Am I obsessing? Should I ignore this or reply?

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StealthPolarBear · 15/05/2012 21:53

Yes, she has still got the huff and is making you sweat

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StealthPolarBear · 15/05/2012 21:54

Did you wear a big white dress to their wedding by any chance?

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BumpingFuglies · 15/05/2012 21:56

It's a blow-off. How crap for you, sorry OP.

I think you should ignore. To reply will only set you up for more ambiguous replies.

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squeakytoy · 15/05/2012 21:57

She has dumped you as a mate.... the "I am fine with how things are now" makes that crystal clear I would say...

Move on and ignore. Dont contact her again.

As an aside, did you really meet your DH, marry him AND have five kids in the space of 4 years???

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Kewcumber · 15/05/2012 21:57

yes she is dumping you. Don't reply - whats the point?

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Get0rfMoiLand · 15/05/2012 21:57

Yes - she has got a bee in her bonnet about something. She must be pissed off and I would presume Enid has said something, however why would Enid start stirring something now? Has anything else happened?

In any case she is blowing you off but in such a way as to make you feel like shit. Presumably she wants you to ask more. I would just leave it - it looks like the relatiobnship is over really. But I can understand why you are hurt.

But - Lois and Enid? I must admit I laughed at the names. Lois and Enid!

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FetchezLaVache · 15/05/2012 21:58

According to the wisdom of the Sweet Valley High books, "see you around" is what you say to people you're not particularly friendly with. I think you are right to take it as a blow-off, the whole tone comes across as not particularly giving a shit and that vile "fine with how things are now" strikes me as very PA. As you say, she should at least have the decency to level with you, not just because of the directness of your email, but also because of all the lovely things you've done for her in the past. What a shame you've been treated this way, you sound like a great friend.

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Get0rfMoiLand · 15/05/2012 21:58

I know a family who had two sets of twins one year apart.

I think I would have cried for at least 6 years if I had been the mother.

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squeakytoy · 15/05/2012 21:59

Reading her reply again...

she says "I did try getting in touch once, but we are both busy and maybe it got overlooked."

So she means (I would say), that she tried to get in touch, you ignored her... so she got the hump.

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scarletforya · 15/05/2012 22:00

Definite kiss off, that Enid one could be behind it.

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AmINearlyThereYet · 15/05/2012 22:00

I agree, and I think it is a horrible reply. Even if she has no particular reason for not wanting to see you, she should have had the decency to be more direct about saying that. I am sorry, OP.

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BumpingFuglies · 15/05/2012 22:00

GetOrf - wrong thread maybe? U ok?

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Icelollycraving · 15/05/2012 22:00

I think she perhaps left a message with your dh that didn't get passed on? I think it's the friendship equivalent of a Dear John. Hard to take,understand you are upset but don't persue it any further because I think you are laying yourself open to being hurt again.

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dismissed · 15/05/2012 22:01

Did you wear a big white dress to their wedding by any chance?

No! Grin
They had a civil service, and she was the only one in a white dress. They did not have a photographer, and asked me when I arrived if I would take photos. I did; they were not brilliant but I am a decent photographer and they were of a passable casual, asked-for-them-at-the-last-moment standard, so I don't think it is about that. I attended the service and the pub-do afterwards; I did have to leave early-ish as I had a baby at home to nurse - but that truly didn't seem to be an issue at the time either - and she and I were getting along normally at the pub after. And yes, we gave them a very nice gift.

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squeakytoy · 15/05/2012 22:02

GetOrf was replying to me I think...

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Get0rfMoiLand · 15/05/2012 22:02

Oh no sorry - I am responding to squeaky who asked the OP if she really had 5 kids in the space of 4 years. Sorry Blush it does look as if I am rambling madly.

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ivanapoo · 15/05/2012 22:03

I've got to say she sounds like she's being a passive-aggressive dick.

I can't ever imagine writing such a stone cold email to someone I was even vaguely friendly with.

You sound like a nice person and I'm sorry you are clearly hurt by this but try to move on and remember its her loss.

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SpringHeeledJack · 15/05/2012 22:04

you sound lovely

try and put it behind you for now and don't let it gnaw at you like a baby fox stuffed up your jumper eating your insides like wot I would

I bet Lois will come to her senses sooner or later (these things, ime, always get sorted out in time) and twill all be revealed

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picnicbasketcase · 15/05/2012 22:05

Unfortunately, I think any reply you could send would end up making you sound bad. It would either have a tone of grovelling which is somewhat pointless due to how dismissive she sounds or one of 'fuck off then'. Just leave it and keep your dignity.

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dismissed · 15/05/2012 22:05

As an aside, did you really meet your DH, marry him AND have five kids in the space of 4 years???

No again! Sorry - family of five - me, DH, two stepkids and one baby!


So it sounds like I have read it correctly. Grrrr.

I do think it is Enid. She may have stirred things up because she is a vile nasty cow or Lois may just have decided she could only be friends with one of us and Enid is a better bet for cocktails and partying until dawn.

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StealthPolarBear · 15/05/2012 22:06

TBH OP I agree with the others who said she aint wurf it and to just let it go. But curiosity as to what I'd done would be eating me up. Maybe another short email just to say you're sorry you hadn't realised she had tried to get in touch and to say that if there is something wrong, you would appreciate honesty from her.

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BumpingFuglies · 15/05/2012 22:06

Gah, no I'm sorry I didn't read properly Blush

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Dropdeadfred · 15/05/2012 22:06

It does sound like she is saying that she tried to/ did contact you at some point and it got ignored by you...?

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perceptionreality · 15/05/2012 22:07

Gosh, why do people behave like this? Sorry to hear this has happened OP, you must be very hurt.

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AberdeenAgnes · 15/05/2012 22:07

Wow, yanbu. That would reeeeally piss me off.

She's basically dumped you and also convinced herself she has the moral highground over whatever the hell her grievance is.

I wouldn't want any more to do with her tbh, as I'm sure her reasons would make me very Angry and it's better to leave things with dignity while you can.

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