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Feminist Pub 15: The Bluestocking hangs up its, err, stocking and hopes for a chatty Christmas and a Feminist New Year

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YonicSleighdriver · 10/12/2014 19:05

Festive greetings!

This is the 15th incarnation of the Pub and is meant as a place to drop by with random thoughts and meandering chats, on feminist or other related themes. Anything you want to mull over but not necessarily start a thread about. Alternatively, get some booze and snacks and hang out! Lurkers, newbies and oldbies welcome.

We have a pub goat, a feminist cannon for firing at crazy sexists and we cheer each other up when patriarchy grinds us down...

Last pub drinkie linkie:

Pub 14

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BuffyWithChristmasEarings · 10/12/2014 19:07

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YonicSleighdriver · 10/12/2014 19:11

Hello Buffy!

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OublietteBravo · 10/12/2014 19:15

Hello. I'd like a seat by the fire and a mulled wine please.

I lost touch with the last pub. I might not be back properly yet. December is always a particularly busy month at work.

And I should probably adopt a more Christmassy name. But I'm not feeling inspired at the moment.

BuffyWithChristmasEarings · 10/12/2014 19:21

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NoUnauthorisedParking · 10/12/2014 19:32

Evening all, large mulled wine please, with an extra shot of brandy in it.



Please may I blow up a library book with the cannon?

BuffyWithChristmasEarings · 10/12/2014 19:34

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YonicSleighdriver · 10/12/2014 19:36

NUP, only if all the copies of "Raising Boys" go with it

Xmas Grin

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SconeRhymesWithScrooge · 10/12/2014 19:39

Hey, y'all. First post with my Christmas, or as we call it in the US, Holiday name. Xmas Wink

NoUnauthorisedParking · 10/12/2014 19:39


BOOM!

Aaah. That is therapeutic, that is!

FibonacciSeries · 10/12/2014 19:43


I've been sick for FIVE DAYS now. So tired of it.
BuffyWithChristmasEarings · 10/12/2014 19:48

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SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 10/12/2014 19:49

We may be needing that cannon on the Panorama DV threads.... the poor menz brigade are out in force.

Nice mulled Wine for me in the shiny new pub Grin

PuffinsAreFictitious · 10/12/2014 19:55

MMmmmmmm virtual Gluewein.

I would very much like my stupid back to stop hurting now. The drugs are lovely, but the pain is boring now. Sending empathetic vibes to Buffy and Fibonacci.

SoMuchForSubtlety · 10/12/2014 19:58

Ooh I missed the last pub!

This one looks lovely and festive though

SoMuchForSubtlety · 10/12/2014 19:59

Sorry to hear about so many people feeling poorly Sad
I blame the darkness, only a week and a half to go (ish) then the days start to get longer again.

Alchemist · 10/12/2014 20:10

Have always felt a little intimidated but now you are at the start of a new thread I can join!

Hello!

YonicSleighdriver · 10/12/2014 20:12

Welcome Alchemist'

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SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 10/12/2014 20:27

Wine Cheers Alchemist. I dip in and out, lose track, namechange and all sorts on the pub threads - they are very fast moving sometimes, but I think I've posted on all of them Grin

Alchemist · 10/12/2014 20:41

Thanks all, look forward to talking more.

UptoapointLordCopper · 10/12/2014 20:42

Hello everyone!

Parking which book have you blown up?

I've shouted at many people today about statements insulting to women. But mustn't out myself....

YonicSleighdriver · 10/12/2014 21:36

I wonder if this is where Freddie Arbuthnot got his name?

www.cityam.com/article/1384478228/merchant-banks-no-longer-rule-city-their-influence-hasn-t-gone

Arbuthnot Latham began life as Scottish merchants, trading in India and Ceylon. But like many merchants, they found they could make more money financing other people’s trade. By the mid-nineteenth century, they were running a bank, and making their way in the City.

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NoUnauthorisedParking · 10/12/2014 21:59

Hi Alchemist, I'm a newbie too, another long time lurker. (It feels a bit rude in a way, like I've been sitting in the back of the pub earwigging!)

LordC, I don't even know the name of the book and this will totally out me to anyone else at story time today and it will sound mad and trivial, and I don't think I'd even try to tell anyone about it except dh and you lot, but: some sort of crappy toddler book about Christmas, one where you press buttons and it makes sounds appropriate to the pictures, like sleigh bells or a reindeer passing wind and the suchlike.

So, one of the pictures was a girl facing front, blushing slightly, and a boy sideways on, kissing her under the mistletoe. The caption "a lucky lad gets a kiss, under the mistletoe" or thereabouts. And, it was a weird experience, all this stuff was hitting me: male gaze; woman as object; man as subject; woman as passive sex-object; man as sexually active; woman as sexual gatekeeper; man as sexually active, autonomous agent; woman as ... not. I felt we were suddenly transformed into a horror movie, toddlers and all. It just felt so wrong.

I looked at everyone round the room. I think everyone else just saw a noisy, colourful book for small children.

It's not the book itself, obviously, the toddlers don't care who's kissing whom - it's the fact that this is our culture. It was totally unremarkable and was totally unnoticed, because this is our culture.

Do you think I'm overthinking this? I wasn't thinking at all tbh it was more a wave of emotion.

Rant over. Thanks for listening!

Get well soon, all you sickly people.

UptoapointLordCopper · 10/12/2014 22:05

I don't think you are overthinking Parking. It horrifies me. Angry

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