right time for new thread here apologies for the title being a bit bland

afternoon lovelies. good to hear of sleeping babes Daisy and i 2nd PMK, gloat away, you deserve it. In fact just as we should be free to offload, we should also be free to gloat big stylie!!!

Dysgu, youve had a nightmare of it with 2 premmie DD's, well done to your strong girls.

NJAN 3 stone in 5 months!!!! well done, thats amazing.

Trace stop reading and get back to your presentation (can i have some banana bread, its one of the 5 a day at home, even McDonalds sells it!)

Katie youve got my tummy i knots, i can't imagine how you feel, i think i want it to be positive, i hope its the outcome you want.

PMK how on earth did you find where Daisy lives you sly thing, did you hack into the mumsnet files.

We all went to our local pool for a swim today, we used to go most fridays all three of us but since DS2 was born it has just been DH & DS1. It was so much fun going all together. It was great to see how much DS1 has come along and DS2 loved splashing about with his brother and playing with all the floaty things they have for the toddler family session at the pool.

DS2 has finally worked out how to slowly lower himself down from standing at the sofa so he is banging his head a lot less today, only a couple of times. I had been thinking of bringing the baby cage thin up from the basement but i put him in the baby cage in the change rooms at the pool today and he went a bit mental so maybe not. PMK both my boys where wrigglers (still are) pad out your house and get yourself fit sweetie thats all i can say, oh and get ready for lots of fun. In fact you'll be fine you've got a dog, going to the park with all my boys (inc DH) is like taking a dog. Is your DH happy he got the post, that was the one he wanted wasn't it.

Kayz, we got a Thomas clock this for DS1 to help him stay in his room. It's eyes close when you touch the button on top and then open at the time you set. DS1 stays in his room until Thomas opens his eyes and just plays (most times)

I have to admit that we have not really persevered with the cup so far with DD2. TBH she drinks hermilk and that is about it as far as liquid goes. DD1 had loads of cups- I wonder where they ended up?

DD2 has been sleeping through since she was 2 months old although I have always sad that NICU trained both my girls really well!

Today she slept through until 7am (usually gets up wit DP around 5.30am) and went for a nap at 11am and is still asleep. Actually, I have just come upstairs to wake her as this is unheard of! She is usually a real catnapper - although aybe this is a sign of things to come.

pmk you dads name isn't whitfield is it?? My dad remembers some Whitfield's going to Oz many moons ago...a long shot I know!!

Daisy how funny!
I used to live in England for a short working holiday about 16 many years ago <showing age!> and I visited up that way as I have some relatives up there on dads side but long story short I was driving up when they cancelled at very short notice as something had gone on - I never found out what, but think it was their marriage related, so I ended up sleeping for a bit in the car as I couldn't get a hotel, then turned around and went back to Dorset, but I did decide to drive past the house my dad was born in! I've still not ever met those relatives to this day as I was a little pissed off to say the least with how they treated my potential visit!

Tried the cup in the Bumbo and the prob is, he can't get the angle right to get anything out even when I fill it right up, and therefore gets very frustrated! He will half assed hold onto it while he's in his bouncer though....

row that sounds terrible - you poor thing. glad DS is on the mend.

I really can't be bothered today. Often feel like this by Friday. And DH is out with work again tonight (she says smiling sweetly in supportive wifey way) so won't be home until 9ish. And left before 7:30. Long old day. And it's raining so I can't do any washing. And ho hum this is what my life has become .

Sorry - I actually have nothing to moan about - so should just give myself a kick and get on with it.

daisy sorry about your friend. That must be so hard.

Oh have just remembered. I can watch the cricket . sun starts shining in lal household.

wg I think your body hangs onto a bit of weight while you're still bfding. Both times as soon as I've stopped have gradually lost half a stone (ish).

pmk like you I have every cup under the sun. at the moment DD prefers drinking out of my glass to anything else.

spiggy I found an Ella's kitchen with prunes in it. Old school, but seemed to do the job.

spot lovely news about your sister's baby.

Am going to test myself this weekend, and try to spend a whole two days not worrying about pig flu/thinking about mad inlaws/stressing about long car journey to france/worrying about going back to work. Quite what I will fill my head with I have no idea.

hello all,

not got time to read all the posts I have missed, so sorry but I hope everyone is well.

We've had a nightmare here, I thought N was teething but after 3 days of been screamed at I took him to the docs and turns out he had tonsillitis - I felt so guilty. So he was on atibiotics which worked quickly but they gave him a really bad belly and was needing nappy changes every 2 hours throughout the night, plus they also seemed to give him insomnia. Then after a few nights of this I started throwing up all night as well and I really started to not cope very well for the first time. All my family live in manchester so I didn't have anyone who could help out for a few hours and I really felt it. Anyway he has now finished his antibiotics, his poo is back to normal, I've stopped throwing up and I can feel a tooth so hopefully he'll be a bit more cheery this weekend. Sorry for long moan - it was a nightmare!

Cups - he has the tommee tippee cheapy cup and he does drink from it himself (not much in one go, but a few sips) - but that is more because he rams anything into his mouth and sucks it I think.

Thanks v much for the toy ideas all, will def get a few of them soon, though I suspect T will truly come into his own when he can run about .

Kayz we also have an early riser here, I'd heard that all babies come into a light sleep between 5 and 6am and will chatter for a bit and will either go back to sleep if they are able to self settle, or nothing getting in the way (poos, teeth etc). T has done this about once in his life, we otherwise go up and try to give him dummy/water to settle. Sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Am hoping he'll grow out of it but it's hell while it lasts.

Hooray for Daisy! That's so great, you must feel like a different person. Gives hope to the rest of us . As does baby ZJ* and her super napping. So sorry to hear about your friend though. It must be v tough.

T has started to do this new weird noise here he goes purple and grunts and strains for ages, it's not a poo, almost looks lie he's so cross he's about to burst a blood vessel. Any suggestions?

Oh, and T is pretty certain to have a girl cousin (i knew it!) but apparently the scan was pretty unclear so they could be in for a surprise. Most imp was that baby ok and healthy.

Mmm, dont know then Kayz. I remember DS1 doing it and he just grew out of it in the end. I did try a lot of things and I'm not sure any of them worked. DS2 did it a few times but stopped when I put the blind and foil up.

I just remember that 30 mins makes such a difference. If I was up at 5:30 I would feel terrible especially if I was working. If at 6am I would feel a bit rubbish, at 6:30 am Ok.

Trace, that used to happen to me and stopped when I got a new oven. (bit of an expensive fix ). My ovens have both been gas and I wonder if when they get old the thermostat goes a bit ? Might be worth leaving them in for 5mins or so longer ? Do you use greaseproof paper on the bottom of the loaf tin ? That might also help. One thing might also be worth trying are those silicone cases. You can get a loaf tin version now that I would like, I use them for cupcakes. A bugger to wash though. Sorry I dont know if thats much use. I think cakes are a bit like a mysterous science, DS1 and I love baking them and eating them

NJAN we have got blackout curtains. So it's not the light that wakes him up. I don't think he is hungry as he tends to refuse a bottle or food until about half 7.