The virtual girls' holiday in Ibiza thread - moving on from mc with or without ttc but with plenty of wine and virtual all night dancing

[freelancegirl]

Ok ok I succumbed to peer pressure to create the thread. This is a place for some of us (and anyone else who wants to join) who have been through the downs of mc and are ready for brighter days and a place to chat nonsense away from the How Are You Feeling Post MC thread. The How Are You Feeling thread should still survive, especially for those newly going through the process, but here we can move on to hopefully brighter days.

Really (newly minted with a BFP and therefore the first of the group to be properly ttc) can kick us off with her no doubt filthy dalliance with a Geology student (was it?) in Crete and we can all pretend we are in a girls' holiday in Ibiza. Grab a glass of sparkly and plonk your (this is virtual so we can look exactly as we want to) toned bikini bodied bum on a bar stool! xx

Freelance, you are a superstar.

Right here goes. I shall put down my sambuca.

I seduced a lovely greek geology student in Crete by doing an entirely innappropriate dance whilst shouting 'igneous, sedimentary, metamorphic!'. It worked a treat.

There. And then we do unspeakable things on a sun lounger. I think he was a bit disappointed though that I didn't actually love rocks the same way he did.

Right, well I'm off to WW. Not entirely sure since I haven't actually followed it and I am newly minted with my BFP so it means I can't actually follow it. I might go and get some of the nice sweeties though.

Big waves! I shall be back for more girl's holiday later.

Ah Ha - found you both!!

Really how racy - fantastic!
So clearly since my dc's are now back at school I have far too much time on my hands!!
I'm off to hang the washing - how glamourous!!
Dont drink my bubbles while I'm away free!

Hehehe - hi there y'all x

Yes I remember having a similar experience REALLY...somewhere in the dim-dim past.

Oh and I LOVE the idea of my bum being super ton xed& tanned, I've also got a flat tummy & no celulite & look GORGEOUS in my inee weeny bikini

I'm actually at work,but as I'm now addicted to m/n....posting again... can I manage two threads at same time, I can be on both can't I?

Pixie x

Pixie you look gorgeous. Such a lovely yellow bikini. Goes nicely with my red one. Here, pass me another cocktail. They are calorie free you know.

Am not sure if I could even spell igneous, sedimentary and metamorphic if i wasn't able to copy and paste but I love the idea of such utterings in seduction, especially when dancing inappropriately in a bar. I actually spent at least three summers working as a "PR girl" in Spain - i.e being paid to chat up men and get them into the bar and then dance on the bar until the small hours of the morning afterwards. It sound seedier than it was. And boy was I fit! All day on the beach, all night dancing... bar dancing is so good for the thighs!

Yes Really back away from the WW. You are now allowed to eat for at least five being that you can't now quaff wine like it's going out of fashion. Maybe we should sod the meet up in London on thursday and just get straight to Gatwick, passport in hand.

What lovely bikinis you both have. I have a black one with gold trim.

Yup, I am backing away from WW now. I did actually lost 2lbs which is the wonder of no wine drinking for 5 days. Will just keep sensibly for now. And maybe some cake and some ice cream and some chocolate and some crisps.

Free That sounds like such a great job! You must have had such a good time. Where in Spain did you work? Are you fluent in Spanish?

Pixie! So good to have you back! I did love the French keyboard though, very funny! Of course you can be on both boards. Are you still free on Thursday too?

Hello there!

Marking my place, but am off to bed now. Will enjoy reading of your holiday stories over my breakfast tomorrow. (For Pixie's benefit, I live in the land of Oz)

just off to pack my holiday stuff - turquoise bikini, flip flops and a good cheesy novel. see you later x x (In work but will post how it all went on the other thread later!)

Yup. I'm around Thu. I can get to waterloo for bout 6.15 (depending if waterloo&city line is working properly)!!! & I don't mind to wine or not to wine...coffee,food...

Ohhhh everyone looks soooo lovely, fit, healthy & these pina coladas really r rather delicious ...& I'm loving the 1980's disco music ... x (or should that b rave music-seeing that we r in ibiza...-I never was any good at telling the difference) x

Pixie x

Thnx bll. Was wondering ...

Lig - sun lounger saved here for when u arrive.

I really should get back to work...

I have just arrived late cuz i overpacked as usual and had to leave some at the airport! lol
Ive got my lovely tiny coral bikini on. My lovely trim stomach on show :)
I have 5 cocktails lined up and gettin a lovely golden suntan.
Where are we headed tonight ladies? can't wait for lots of inappropriate dancing and plenty of wine!
I have plenty of stories from previous holidays but all a little odd rather than exciting!
Hope everyone is ok and enjoying the sun xx

Hello all!

Nice new thread free, thanks for starting it!

It's great to hear from you all.

I can't remember who said what, so will offer some random replies to previous posts....

I think it's natural and (in most cases) inevitable that a post mc pg will be viewed somewhat more nervously than otherwise. OK, most of us will probably be totally paranoid about it. I think the best we can do in that situation is try and relax about it as much as possible while accepting that we now have the sad knowledge that not all pgs work out. Yup, Travel Hopefully...

free, if you're not sure about whether to have children, that's totally fair enough! There's no doubt your life will change completely and irrevocably and if you don't think children will add value to your existence in any way, there's no need to go ahead and have them if you're feeling dubious about it! I certainly wouldn't think any the less of you!
I would still recommend the book I recommended on your "not sure about all this" thread - Naomi Stadlen "What Mothers Do..." - it may help you decide one way or another. It's an interesting read, in any case.

There are a few interesting threads here and there in the Feminist/Women's Rights section of MN that look at the situation wrt SAHMs etc. It can get pretty feisty on there, but I for one have learned LOADS since I started lurking then posting there.

Welcome home, pixie!

How's it going so far Really?

Great to hear from everyone else - sorry not to do copious name-checking.

Just one more, though - michy, how are you doing?

IC - thanks for welcome home - we ordered a cocktail (or 2) for you x

FREE - I think it's incredibly honest ot say that about wanting/not wanting children.

I think there is a pressure on women to have them - & then on top of that, if we, as a woman start TTC, it's hard to then turn round & say that you're not sure if you really want to/should etc... but it's only normal, i would say - as if you are used to your life one way - then you ttc & have m/c - the thought of putting yourself potentially in that position again is hard -

well, it's hard for me - so i understand about the not sure bit - x x x x I am 40 & have always wanted children. now I;ve had 2 m/c's & getitng on a bit (in my childbearing years) - I also don't know as per what I said already about not wanting to put myself in a potential painful situation & also not sure about the change to my/our life, toddlers groups, play dates (that can go so horribly wrong! ! ! !) URGH - am I made of stong enough stuff to manage these things? or would it be dreadfully mean of me to keep my child (if I'm blessed enough to be able to have one) away from these things, just becuase they fill me with dread/horror/disgust .....

... not sure if i understood your post properly, but hope so?

ohhh - where are those drinks -

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
that's better x hichic ;ust be the qll thqt zine xxxx

pixie
x

On a serious note - ladies -

I have a something to ask you all - It's kind of a confession actually - & as I'm gonna meet face-to-face with some of you & also because everyone else on here is/has been SO lovely, I wanna tell you.

I'm a bit affraid also, as I was on another post/thread on here whilst pg & once I told some people, their pm's & replies on m/s stopped... (v.sad face)...

anyway, here goes,

when I say DP it's not becuase my partner & I are not married, it's because it is a women ... (& so am I)

I really hope this is okay for everyone & that I can still be on the thread?

Thanks.

Pixie
x

Hi pixie thats awful that everyone stopped replying.
I think it is ur choice who you are with and if ur happy thats great!
Please ignore all the small minded people.
Knowing all the others here i am sure there will be more positive responses on the way :) xx

thnx PNJ - that's comforting - I don't want to hijack this thread this that - just wanted to let people know x

pixie x

ps. just in case anyone was wondering - we're v. happy (smiley face)
x x x x

I'm astounded anyone would stop talking to you for that reason, pixie!

Of course you're welcome here!

I have a number of friends who have a child or children and are in a same sex relationship. Including at least one who I know for a fact had a mc with her first pregnancy. After that she went on to have two lovely boys. They're very lucky to have two mums if you ask me (and their dad too - it was an arrangement, but he's on the scene as well).

Oh and I'm also 40, so fellow feeling there too.

Hello everyone - you all look so tanned and relaxed on this new thread - Ibiza suits us all!
Very jealous of a meet up going on - have a few for the rest of us!
Pixie - I'm really sure its not the sort of thing anyone here is going to think twice about - really hope all goes well for the next pg.
And I'm not far off 40 too - so lets raise our pina coladas to the grandmas of the group!!
PNJ how many more cocktails do we need to ply you with before we hear those odd stories!

Pixie- I am so sorry that people reacted like that. Not sure why it makes a difference to some people - i think the fact that you are happy is the main thing! I think a happy relationship between parents is the most important thing for children rather than whether it is conventional!!

Thought today was the day to start moving on from my mc - but after a brilliant early morning with healthy eating and a long pre-scan workout my morning was shattered - but think i will leave that for a different thread. just off to start a new thread.....

Pixie I for one am disgusted and will never talk to you again...:) (Sorry, I realise written jokes don't always come across as funny. But you hopefully know I am joking...)

Have you really had people not talking to you again? Bloody hell!! Mind you, I have occasionally lurked on some of the relationship threads and elsewhere on mn and there are some scary people out there. I just haven't yet encountered them on our mc/conception or back on the pg threads. I guess all I can say is that if they don't speak to you after that they are certainly not people you want (or we want) to speak to at all anyway. But still, quite hurtful and a bit confusing I guess in this day and age. I find I have the same thing on the very few occasions I have encountered racism (am mixed English/Asian). It's such a shock that people can have attitudes like that in this day and age that the most upsetting thing is not necessarily that they are clearly a twat but just that it comes as a such a shock to find out there are still twats out there of that ilk in this day and age.

Oh, am 36 (and 9 months...) and have spent most weekend comparing saggy knees and cellulite with my best friend so I don't think age is an issue here either :)

Shit LIG what happened at the scan? I will check the How are you Feeling thread to see.

I must get that book IC. I was planning to get it when I was pg but then fate bit me in the ass anyway. And yes Pixie I completely agree with you about the dilemma of wanting kids but being a bit scared of the playdates/toddler groups and everything else that comes with it. But like Really has said we don't have to do it like Mary Poppins and it's ok to bugger off without the kids sometimes too.

RIght, on to more important things than boring old miscarriages (they are SO Last Thread :) ) who is up for meeting on Thursday, where and what time.

Really and I have decreed it to be Waterloo but I guess we can change if we need. Am I right in thinking it is myself, Really, Pixie and maybe LIG ? Can't wait to give you all a real life hug! xx

PS I hate it when it does that weird bold thing.

Just to say that yes it happened. I pm'd a couple of people for advice & once I'd mentioned to one person I was in civil partnership & to other person I Had a girlfriend neither ever replied again... hey hon like u said, don't want to know those kinds of people. Thnx so much to every one here to restore my faith in people. It must b awful FREE for u to experience that in this day & age.

Waterloo is good for me, or most of London. I'll b coming by tube so most places ok to get to.just let me know. Does anyone know of good pub there?I know of good Turkish restaurant TAS. Can't wait to show off my ibiza tan x xxx

Ooh I like Tas - just next to Southwark tube? There are also a couple of bars there next to Thai Silk behind the tube station. I was also thinking, if weather is nice, the south bank. Really and I had tentatively suggested the Royal Festival Hall as she met for drinks there recently and I am sure I can find the bar there too. Also, if we are eating, there is always those two Italians on Gabriel's Wharf. Might be better off in a pub first? It would be nice to find one with seats so we can sit and chat but might be too busy on a Thurs. So maybe food and table is better. Can someone who is better at making decisions just tell me what to do. Am a not a very good decision maker in these circumstances (oh yes, the meeting a total bunch of strangers who have had mcs circumstances :) which of course we are all so used to)

Anywhere around there is good for me (assuming I get my brain into gear and can make it). trying to think of somewhere a bit quieter for a drink.....

I am sorry Free you have also had such horrible predudice - I am really not sure why people are the way they are - I like to think it is just naivity and for some reason they think that sexual orientation or skin colour makes them different.

How will we recognise each other.......i think i am fairly non-descript and won't be wearing a turquoise bikini unless the weather improves dramatically

So wish i was there to meet u all! Hope u have a fantastic time!
mopeymaybe just a few more
pixie its nice to see everyone else has been so lovely! i reckon a lot more people have had a same sex experience or thought about it more than they let on! A few more cocktails and the stories may begin lol
free i too have started to think maybe i should just enjoy life a little more before trying again but maybe it will be to late then hmmmm decisions.
Well me and my partner are looking at moving. We both want new jobs and a change of scenery. Any suggestions?
really hope ur 1st trimesters symptoms arent too bad yet? hope your drinking plenty in Ibiza as ur not able to at the moment
ligHave just read about ur scan will post on other thread
Big waves at BLL and IC hope ur enjoyin your drinks xx