Teachers' salaries, qualifications and sick leave to be published

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That is fucking outrageous!

I think publishing qualifications is fine (don't they do this in private schools) and pay can be easily worked out anyway. But sickness? That can't be right - it's personal info surely.

I think the Information Commissioner might take an interest in this idea...

our primary PE teacher had the best part of last year off with a hip replacement

That would look awful in a league table

BUT he's been at the school for 25+ years and taught generations of children sports and games, and on his return was greeted with rapture and adoration by the children

now THAT can't be tabled

That's appalling Horribly intrusive, and frankly none of our business.

Surely teaching is a graduate only profession, so they should all have degrees?

Also v short sighted to think that more qualifications = better teacher!

Who will compile all this information? I thought the ConDems were all for small Govt, with reduced bureaucracy?

The word popping into my head is "spiteful".

They'll be making them teach PE in their knickers next.

Would it be just a general indicator of overall rates of absence, though, rather than listing individuals' sick leave? The latter would be a DP issue - the former possibly already available through FoI? Bad data, though, as it means nothing without context. The Govt seem awfully keen on this semi-raw data everywhere- despite the fact that they themselves pay skilled civil servants to analyse it for them...

I don't really see the point of this TBH. Waste of money.

Correct me if I am wrong but I assumed all teachers in the state sector had to have the relevant qualifications and their pay is determined by a national pay scale.

What a bizarre idea - and what a waste of time. Most schools I know publish the qualifications of their teaching staff and anyway whether you have a doctorate or a PGCE doesn't have very much bearing on how you shape up in the classroom. It's very easy to find out how much a teacher earns if you know how long they've been working for and the sickness thing - well - if a teacher has a lot of sickness parents don't need that published in a document - they need to know what mechanisms are in place so their child is still able to make good progress.

Qualifications seems reasonable. I would like to see that and not even all private schools do publish that data. It would be useful to me as a parent.

Pay and sickness not useful so no need for me to see it.

Teaching is almost all graduate however there are a small number very close to retirement who may still have a teaching certificate and not a full degree.

As long as this applies to Teaching Assisstants, Administrators, Head Teachers, Gps, Nurses, Consultants and pretty much any other job where they are paid by the Government and where people get a "choice" about which one to choose.

Thoroughly ridiculous. You could have a first class degree, attend no end of courses and never have a day off sick and yet be the shittest teacher alive.

Most of the teachers at my school who qualified in the last 3 years have Masters degrees.
Would it really be helpful to know my qualifications, mostly completed by 1984?

Teaching is one of the best examples of masses of qualifications counting for nothing. It is about imagination, creativity, management and most importantly your rapport with the children above all else.

My school has a high staff turnover and a high staff absence/sickness rate. It is a barmy high school in one of the most deprived wards in the UK. I honestly don't think there's much more we can do to improve things.

This ties in with Dave's big idea about sacking all the people who actually hold government to account - the Audit Commission and statisticians - and pretending that the state can be made accountable by putting dribs and drabs of information online. Because of course an individual sitting in their bedroom with broadband after a hard day at work and then several hours volunteering for the Big Society is going to be able to hold public services to account...

Never mind the fact that there will be nobody to analyse the data - they are getting the sack - so it will be impossible for members of the public in their spare time to either get usable data or get a handle on it.

Oh, but never mind, the private sector can audit local authorities and the NHS... and of course the private sector will be very, very keen to provide information that isn't very palatable to the people handing out the contracts. Oh yes sirree.

A lot of schools do, weirdly imo, list the staff and their degrees, although not the class.

Am I to look forward to seeing my doctor's pay up on the digital signage at the surgery (quite high if going by the personalised no plate on his sports car) or the absence rates of policemen?

I look forward to seeing the sick leave of each member of the government published. With reasons and full medical records.

I look forward to seeing the qualifications and salary details of bank employees in companies where more than 50% of the shares are owned by the government.

What an unbelievable waste of time.

From the Torygraph link given above
"Individual teachers are unlikely to be named, although reports will spell out the number of staff qualified to certain levels."

So nothing that personal will be given out. Don't see this as a big story, probably a waste of time/effort/money.

I would like to know exactly what grade teachers got for their A levels and degrees. I'm not sure I'd want my children being taught Further Math A level by somebody with a third class degrees from No-Hope Uni (ex Poly).

As a teacher I am relieved to see so many supportive comments from parents who are not fooled by this latest nonsensical and outrageous proposal. I am looking forward to retiring from what has become a nightmare of a job over the last decade. The effectiveness of teaching is marred more by the expectations of constantly proving we do a good job instead of allowing us to use our abilities, time and energy to actually do it. My youngest daughter has recently started teaching and she is struggling with the 12 to 15 hours a day she is having to work on school days and still having to give up huge chunks of her weekend in order to keep up. She will get sick and like most teachers she will continue to go in rather than set cover for her classes.

Your daughter is a teacher?
My two have decided that they will never, ever be teachers.

I just don't get the Govt's idea that publishing all kinds of random often unrelated data = choice and accountability because data on its own is not an indicator of anything and can be interpreted how you want to see it.

This is just beyond daft and a waste of time and money...smoke and mirrors to make it look like transparency, accountability or whatever...