Ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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Just to start us off.

May this be a happy and lucky thread for all of us.

Hear!Hear! Yes, let's all get bfp's and sticky little babies.

Hippy, I am so sorry that you are going through this again. You sound really good, and I think you should definitely try again. I really do believe that it is just a matter of time and the right egg, and you seem very strong.

Jolly, thanks for starting the new thread.

Not much happening for me.Absolutely no symptoms whats so ever. I wish I had a fertility monitor to at least give me some warning, but have decided I can't afford it right now(it's more important to buy groceries!!) and am hoping to maintain a relaxed attitude towards this.

I'm feeling quite sad for my sister as she went ahead with the termination yesterday. She phoned me while she was in the waiting room, and she sounded so sad. If circumstances were different she would have had the baby. Even though she made the decision, it is still a loss, and I imagine she'll be feeling sad for a bit.The rest of her life is still all over the place, but I think she might be coming to some sort of resolution with that too, which doesn't include either of the men(which is a good thing in my opinion).

Oh, DS just spilt milk and cereal all over the floor!Bye!

Hippy thinking of you.

Lia so sorry it seems the choice is being taken away from you.

Gum so sorry about your sis.

It is a sad time and it is hard but I must say that a nice chirpy phone call with a lovely, dear friend has cheered me! She is single, no kids, would love to be married and have a family and makes me realise how lucky I am!! Despite her call I am still feeling a little bit cr*p I think. I feel my choices are limited by money, if we had more money we could try more treatment! But DH does not want any more treatment. I have always dreamt of adopting but now it is a possibility I am not sure I am strong enough for it all!

Pollyanna we are really only at the start of thinking about adoption. My DH does not want any more treatment and say he wants to look into adoption, but I am not sure if I will end up being the driving force! I did not want to wait anymore for fertility treatment, (but in Spain there is very little wait involved! It was the wait that was putting me off!). This is adding to my feelings of conflict!

In a way I might be just trying to come to terms with DD being an only child. Feeling quite unsure whether adoption will be our route. Just not sure if I am strong enough for it all. As I say, I keep dreaming of flying off to Spain for more treatment! Crazy, we can't afford it and DH does not want it. So hard to finally put this TTC thing to rest!

Diege what happened with your sis, did she adopt or not, can I ask?? You said ?. There were 2 on the panel that turned down my sister's application due to gender pref, so as you say, maybe better to keep it quiet!? Does that mean that she got turned down ? that seems so unfair!

Just a quick post. Got a BFP yesterday... eek! Quite faint, but a line nonetheless. Had to test as was visiting acupuncturist so needed to know. Am very neutral about it, particularly as have had that spotting a few days ago. So am 4+2. Such a ridiculously long way to go. And after 2 MMCs my chances are only 52% IIRC.

But wanted to let you know, and it didn't feel right posting yesterday after Hippy's post, but thought if any of you were lurking on the MC thread you would have seen it.

Gum - so sad about your sister, but I guess the right decision for her situation.

Wave to all. Hope your strawberries are doing ok Hippy, we got 10 lovely ripe ones yesterday, which DS devoured in about 5 seconds!

Here's to third time lucky Jolls, have everything crossed for you that this is your sticky one

just getting myself on new thread.

Had my scan, everything looks "fine" said sonographer. Just have to wait to see cons now, started on vits today, feeling bit better now sickness bug is fading away.

Hope everyone well,

hippy thinking of you. ((()))

Bloody hell that'll teach me to read quickly

woohoo jolls wishing you a very boring and uneventful 8 mths.

jolly You are such a fertile murtle!!

Well done honey. OMG - now I defo want to try again, so we can be preg together.

There is absolutely nothing I can say about being positive and remaining calm cos you've been here before and we both know you will have days when you feel positive and days when you don't.

Please, please please universe - don't let my friend jolly down

Make sure you get early scans this time and try try try to enjoy it.

update on me - bleeding has died down a bit and cramps almost gone. I know this can't be it - it can't be this easy. So i'm still waiting for the sh*t to hit the fan. It's like being told - you will have pain soon but we can't say when and we can't say how bad!! - arrgghhh

Am getting quiet sharp pains up my girly bits. It's a bit like the scrapping feeling you get when you have a smear. I did get them when preg with this one and the last one.

Does anyone know what it is?

I'm guessing it could be the cervix opening or something similar (but if that's the case it was defo a bad sign that I had them during the pregnancies).

I got my blood test results just now and on Monday the hgh level was 210 which is conclusive with 10 days after fertilzation. So it looks like the egg and sperm met and implanted but then stopped pretty much straight after that.

Then my body hung on to it for a while. So hopefully it shouldn't be much worse than a late period and thus it shouldn't take my body long to recover.

OMG I can feel myself leaning towards trying again!

Thanks for the new thread Jollsterand many congrats on your bfp, that's lovely news and is a great start to the new thread
HippyI can absolutely 100% see you trying again I'm in admiration of how well you're getting through this;as Gum says, you do seem very strong xx
Gum that is sad about your sister,though as you say,maybe now she can move on and up.
Italian, re:my sister and her dh,they were cleared in the end,although I can't remember if it was a majority decision, or if they got through on appeal - the former I think. Anyway, yes, def accepted and now waiting for a match up
cd 7 here, so may start weeing on opks again soon-ish
On and brace update (esp for Hippy) had filing between teeth today (eek!!!) and buttons glued on to teeth so that the aligners attach properly. Dentist had England match on- nurse kept on telling him to focus , my heart was thrashing about my chest!! All ok though, though quite sore now!

Jollster - huge congratulations , just keep hoping this one stays put for you and snuggles up for the next nine months.

hippy - looks like you might be passed the worst of it. And you are more than leaning towards trying again, you will be back on the bandwagon in the next couple of weeks definitely!

lia - glad you are feeling better now the bug has departed.

I have to go sort out dinner for the kiddies, so big wave to everyone else.

Hippy thinking of you.

Jolly well done.

Hugs and waves to all.

Told DH tonight I need a break to think things through and not think about adoption too soon. I am not sure I have really grieved the whole fertility thing yet and still have dreams of doing one more attempt. I know DH not AT ALL keen on fertility treatment so we will just see. I feel I just need to get fit, get sorted at home, get DD's naughty behavior sorted and then look to the future!

love to all.

I do feel quite strong this time - perhaps it's just to make up for how totally feeble I was after my MMC. I was so heartbroken then.

Somehow finding out that my levels were so low on Monday has helped . I feel like maybe there isn't a whole load of pain coming my way after-all and I know now that there was no way this was ever gonna go anywhere.

Also, once again my body was happy to be preggers and hung on even after it all went tits up. So hopefully if I did get the right egg I could rely on my body to get on with it.

Still not definitely decided though, will see what my GP says on Tuesday (but I know she wants me to go for it again).

DH would probably be glad of the sex - since I started spotting he hasn't been allowed within a mile of me .

jolly was this the first month you tried after the acupuncture finished?

My poor reflexologist is gonna be like, "What? Back again? How many times am i gonna have to help get you up the duff?"

Love to everyone else.

You are all so supportive on here. Also what i like is that we're all at different stages and varying degrees of happy or sad BUT there is usually someone up the duff - which is great.

rainbow how you doing. Knicker checking like mad would be my guess Hang on in there love.

Sorry italian crossed posts.

Maybe a break would be a good thing. I'm guessing that you have to wait for the adoption thing anyway so you wont be actually losing time there.

Plus as you're not planning on using your own eggs for anything (except maybe that miracle baby) it wouldn't matter if you decided to have one more go at doner eggs in a few months.

Unlike us over 40's your doner would not have that ticking clock thing going on - (lucky cow )

Hope that makes sense.

I wish I had a magic wand and i could get you fit (I'd wave the bloody thing over me too!!)

hippy it was the first cycle I was "allowed" to TTC by my acupuncturist! She basically said she wanted a few cycles to treat me knowing I wasn't pg. I'm still seeing her - in fact she now wants to see me weekly again now I'm pg. Had a very different treatment this week compared to the previous ones. In my head and back this week - before always tummy and foot and hand. Lots of encouragment on that thread you posted in Pregnancy - really good to read.

Hi to all - thank you for all your lovely wishes. As I plan to tell virtually no one in RL until I'm much further along, it's so nice to share on here. Must go to bed - am shattered! (just cos I am old, not cos I am pg! )

Oh, How lovely Jollster - congratulations.Quite a few of the oldies are pregnant now aren't they? We might need a roll call so I can see where everyone is at.

Finally I've had some sign that something is stirring (PMS most likely).I've had some breast tingles...rather than tender boobs. But I had no tenderness last cycle at all, so maybe it's a good sign? Unlikely though.

However I had a wonderful dream this morning where I did a first response test that came up positive straight away.I'm hoping that's what will happen next week.

Italian, I really hope you are able to have another go at fertility treatment. It sounds like you aren't quite ready to give up on it and I understand.

Now my DS is emptying my wallet! Gotto run!

Jollter congratulations!

I'm feeling very sorry for myself (sorry self indulgent post coming up). I had a bfp (2 in fact) this month, and then rtd appeared amid great cramps and pain. So I'm guessing this is another chemical pg (last one in April). It's not as if I'm testing early - 31, 32 days - but I am feeling very defeated atm. It looks as though I am dtd and getting fertilised, but what can I do to aid this? I am feeling very upset at the moment and wondering how I can ever get past this stage.

No doubt will get positive soon (eg I won't feel sick on holiday, I can carry on with my diet and fitness push), but not feeling very so at the moment.

Sorry for rant.

so sorry Polly, it's an awful disappointment, happened to me in March. Happened to ILGH last year too -- we're both now pg, if that helps? Just seems to take a lot more disappointment before the good egg comes along at our age.

Only thing I'm doing is lots of vitamins... took iron supplements (spatone or floradix both seem to work well) after MMC and chem preg, which helped me get my energy back, and as well as preconception vits, I also took an extra folic acid as I read somewhere you can get pretty depleted and it's essential for cell formation for the embryo -- no harm in taking extra, some women are prescribed more than ten times the standard 400 micrograms, so it does no harm, and might help.

The other thing that may be worth doing is seeing the GP, tell them about your early losses, as it means they'll take you seriously if you want them to run tests now would suggest Antiphospholipid Antibodies that's to test for sticky blood. From what I could find out, this is the main cause of recurrent mcs that they can do something about, ie give you low dose aspirin and possibly heparin too. It's worth the test if only to exclude it. Helped my confidence no end to rule it out.

Sorry you feel so awful just now, it really is a horrible feeling.

Big hugs for you and for Hippy. I read your trying again thread Hippy, so encouraging, sounds like you will go for it, and I'm hoping for the very very best for you that you get your good egg soon.

Personally I'm bricking it can't concentrate, can't stop crying, desperately want to hear good news tomorrow (12 week scan) and really worried that we won't........ Doing my very best to think positive, someone slap me and tell me to snap out of it, I know I'm really lucky to have got this far.

Jolls and Rainbow -- sticky vibes to you both.

polly So sorry to hear that. I remembr when i got preg with my two boys and a BFP meant a baby in 8 months time. God, it's so much more complicated now isn't it. How many CP's have you had? I think mine was probably meant to be a CP - in that it hadn't progressed very far but my body didn't realise.

alba SLAP - You'll be absolutely fine tomorrow. Will keep everything crossed - come back and tell us all about it lovie. All good advise you gave Polly.

Went to get my second lot of bloods done today. Passed something very sac like at 5am this morning - but can't be sure - sorry TMI!

On the one hand I do want to try once more - but can't see me going through it numerous times.

But I sat waiting to have bloods done with my little bit of paper saying miscarriage ???? and thought, "Flippin' heck I could be back in this position really soon - what is the point of it all???"

Just feeling a bit negative today but I do also agree with someone on the other thread that in 10 years time I would probably wish i'd tried again.

Yay jollster, lovely news.

Sorry you're having such a scary time Alba, like hippy said, come back and tell us all about it, sure you will be much relieved tomorrow.

Thinking of you Hippy hugs to you and Polly too.

Thanks Hippy and Alba. Is it worth me taking low dose aspirin anyway? I was (after reading threads on here) thinking of taking vit b6, zinc, and evening primrose oil. What about agnus castus? Also, i think that some of those should also be taken before ovulation, but can't remember which one! (perhaps should do a bit more research....)

my dr isn't very helpful unfortunately, just puts everything down to my age.

hippy hope everything is bearable with you. It is so difficult isn't it, the thought of trying again and failing. i must admit I do find it very depressing on the various threads the recurrence statistics after the age 40. (and my dr just reinforces this negativism). On the other hand as you say, it may be that we would regret not trying more in 10 years time, and plenty of people do have babies after 40.

Goodluck for you tomorrow alba.

gum oooh!

Liah, I also had the sickness thing this week, and wondered if that had an effect on changing my positive test to a negative. Good news that your scan is ok though. What vits are you taking?

italian prob a good idea to stop to take stock. I know a few people who have/are seriously considering adoption, and it is a big step to take I think. Hope you get some clarity.

Hello! Just a quick one from me as mad busy at work.
Alba I'm sure things will be absolutely fine tomorrow - I felt exactly the same before my nf with dd2,sick with nerves, but all was well. What time's your appoint?
Hippy Fingers crossed the worst of the bleeding,cramps etc is over for you. FWIW I did find my mmc extremely draining,and feel that I would have coped better with an earlier one (though I don;t know that that would be the case). The disappointment at the scan after getting to 10/11 weeks is unbelievable. Give yourself time, things are so recent,and it's entirely normal to rush from one emotion to the other.I do think that you seem to be veering towards ttc -ing again though
Polly How gutting having got a bfp . The vits I take may be useful (certainly so if you read the blurb) - they'll the Zita West Fertility Plus ones.I'm also thinking about starting her omega ones, but not sure if you need to while ttc?
Big wave to all - back to the exam board prep!

Polly, sorry to hear that your bfp turned into AF. I suppose that's why waiting to test, or wiating for two missed periods like they did in the old days, meant that you didn't know if it was a chemical, which was probably better. But I'm hopeless, and would never wait.My last two pregnancies I had a bfp very early(9dpo).
Maybe now that I'm officially old I should learn to wait as I'm much more likely to have a miscarriage (are the stats s high as 50%?)

alba, I do hope your scan is reassuring.Come back and let us know.

Polly, I wouldn't worry about taking Vitex unless you have irregular periods.But I would take extra folic acid (I take 800mg a day),fish oil,and a multi.I also take Co Q 10,Bee pollen and maca powder(supposedly good for fertility - both partners).I also take evening primrose oil up til ovulation.I'm not taking aspirin as I don't like the effect on my stomach, but I would if I knew I had a problem with sticky blood.

I took a long walk with my DS this morning.I'm resolving to get fitter.I've been a couch potato for long enough, and the broken toe is all healed, so there's no excuse!I'm hoping that the increased circulation will be good for blood flow to the uterus and ovaries - to make for better eggs with luck! And it'd be good to be fit and healthy, especially if we have a baby at this age - I want to be around to see them grow up and have their own children one day.

Best get ready for bed, it's late...

Quick question for all you clever bods.

I have been getting sharp shooting pains in my legs (like bad pins and needles) since the night before I started bleeding.

Should I be worried about this - i keep thinking Deep Vein Thrombosis or something lethal like that.

I will of course ask the Gp but wondered if it is part of MC or something unconnected.

Dh says it could just be stress but I was much more stressed in Feb and didn't have them then.

Is it to do with that sticky blood thing? - gulp!