Short Luteal Phase Thread 4!

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maplebaby Fri 17-Jun-16 17:19:13

Hope you don't mind the newbie starting the new thread but thread 4 for those with a short LP!

Will try and add previous thread link later - no idea how to on my phone!

maplebaby Fri 17-Jun-16 17:20:37

Hope you all find me here confused
Waiting with plenty of wineand cake

sunshinegirl12 Fri 17-Jun-16 18:00:41

Found you Maple, thanks for sorting for ussmile. It's the serenity natural progesterone cream I'm using, I ordered it online.

Friendly, it sounds like both our NHS areas follow the same processes with going straight on to IVF.

Glad to hear you're staying strong Mrsunsure.flowers

I've been really good this month, taking all my long list of vitamins, absolutely no alcohol or caffeine, chinese herbs, natural progesterone cream and actually managed to avoid getting stressed or upset about anything (which is a massive effort for me) until last night on the way back from lovely relaxing acupuncture was in a car accident so feel like most of my good works gone out the window, I'm totally stressed and need wine!! winewinewine

Friendlycav Fri 17-Jun-16 18:23:46

Thank you for the run down of IUI Maple, I really appreciate it. I'm going to do some serious research about it this weekend as perhaps this is our next step before IVF.

Oh no Sunshine, I hope you're ok??? It sounds like you are doing all the right things, so sorry to hear about the accident. You deserve a glass of wine flowers

Friendlycav Fri 17-Jun-16 18:24:25

And thank you Maple for setting up this new thread! x

Mrsunsure123 Fri 17-Jun-16 19:59:55

Thanks Maple.. And thanks for all that info also, very interesting and definitely something I would like to try as a next option. I actually feel like the NHS in my area seem to be very good as nothing yet has been rejected and I've paid for nothing except prescription for 6 months Clomid and 3 months progesterone at £8. I've even AMH and al blood tests. I do know and feel that I'm very lucky!

Sunshine I really hope your ok? Your sounding very good I've had a terrible month food and drink wise. I've also given up basically all my vitamins but I'm going to get back on it next week!

Maple you mentioned another thread your on with Clomid ladies.. Can I join because I would love to speak to people with Clomid experience as its not the easiest thing to take?

maplebaby Fri 17-Jun-16 20:42:35

Sunshine blimey you definitely deserve lots of vino!! Hope you are alright after the accident and no one else was hurt?

No problem friendly - i was told I get 3 goes before moving onto IVF. I only get one round of IVF though - bloody postcode lottery!

Mrs I've been impressed with my hospital too and I've had my AMH tested, I didn't realise not all did this. I think some people are offered unmediated IUI first but mine goes straight into medicated.

The other thread I'm on is the one called "anyone done or doing clomid/ovidrel/IUI?" There's only a few of us on there. Feel free to join us!

Mrsunsure123 Fri 17-Jun-16 20:57:00

Thanks maple!
Yeah I think some of the ladies on here (sorry if I'm wrong) have had to pay for certain bloods and have not been lucky enough to have all options on the NHS e.g progesterone etc.

Maple sorry just remind me of you story? Do you have any children? And have you had all the tests?

maplebaby Fri 17-Jun-16 21:18:49

So we've been trying 16 months now. Was previously on the pill for 10 years. I went to the GP quite early on because my cycles ranged from 28 to 38 days and because of the spotting (cycles now averaging at 33 days). She did blood tests straight away and DH sent for a SA. First results came back slightly low morphology so had a second which came back normal. Also had my first experience with dildo cam!

Then got referred to the fertility clinic after a year and saw the consultant when we were on cycle 13. Had all the usual blood tests done again (as well as AMH, estradiol etc) and another ultrasound and also a Hycosy. All came back normal / clear tubes etc.

So got my non diagnosis of unexplained infertility and here I am now! Waiting to see the fertility nurse about IUI next month!

Oh and no children sad TTC #1.

maplebaby Fri 17-Jun-16 21:19:14

What's your story Mrs smile

maplebaby Fri 17-Jun-16 21:20:19

Ignore me Mrs I scrolled back and realised you have told me, sorry!!

Mrsunsure123 Fri 17-Jun-16 21:25:54

Pretty much the same as you maple!
Except I've had one pregnancy after 18 months which ended in miscarriage at 8 weeks but I'm sure this was because of low progesterone!
I've had every test possible but haven't had the HyCosy as I've been pregnant so it's not top of the list.
DH all fine and my only bad results is the low progesterone, that's why they started me on Clomid to try and lengthen LP and stop spotting. But it didn't work this is the 5th cycle and even though my progesterone has been really high my LP has not lengthened and I've still been getting spotting so the progesterone is the next hope! I just really hope it works and there's nothing else going to crop up.
We've been part of the fertility clinic since March and it's been fantastic I cannot fault them. I've had a million scans and bloods and DH has done his sample. We've been offered the chance to do another 6 months with Clomid and progesterone and I think we will take that option to give progesterone a chance too!

maplebaby Sat 18-Jun-16 15:53:22

Mrs I didn't know they give clomid if you have low progesterone - how does that work?

Mrsunsure123 Sat 18-Jun-16 15:59:57

Clomid is supposed to suppress one hormone I think oestrogen but maybe wrong in order for your body to create a stronger egg and therefore more progesterone.. I have had much higher progesterone levels but not a longer LP so it's worked for strengthening ovulation but not the LP. I just hope the progesterone will work.. I can't think about much else it's just a waiting game really isn't it!

sunshinegirl12 Mon 20-Jun-16 11:21:37

I'm ok other than a few little aches, was more worried about the stress of it all.

So am 10dpo today, having period pain already and feel like AF will start today, usually manage atleast a 10 day luteal phase so the progesterone cream doesn't seem to have worked.

I really need to try the progesterone suppositries but I don't want to book another private appt at a further £125 if he still won't give me a prescription!! I'm thinking of maybe emailing to see if he will prescribe it over the phone but not sure if thats a bit of a long shot??! x

Friendlycav Mon 20-Jun-16 11:39:25

I would definitely give it a go Sunshine as you have nothing to lose. I really don't understand why it is such a battle to get progesterone - even privately. It is such an easy fix for a short LP x

Friendlycav Mon 20-Jun-16 12:30:53

Mrs and Maple, you really are both so lucky with the NHS treatment you've had. Other than bloods and the HSG, honestly feel like I've been given the bare minimum. I would like to try medicated IUI but wonder if it would make better financial sense in the long run to go straight for IVF as will need to go private. Never thought it would come to this and not sure where we are going to find the money but I can't take the disappointment each month and feel like my life is in limbo.

mascaraisamust Mon 20-Jun-16 13:34:50

Sunshine I agree, be blunt and ask for it. My private consultant wrote me the prescription and I just dropped by to get it rather than pay for another appointment. X

maplebaby Mon 20-Jun-16 16:47:39

Thanks Mrs will still mention it to the nurse next week and see if she will give me progesterone!

Sunshine I agree with asking, you've got nothing to lose! Hope AF stays away.

Friendly are you via NHS? Could you ask about IUI or would you have to pay for that too?

Friendlycav Mon 20-Jun-16 17:13:19

Hi Maple, yes I'm with the NHS and unfortunately they don't offer IUI. I wish they did! x

maplebaby Mon 20-Jun-16 17:22:38

Sorry friendly I have a memory like a sieve! You did tell me this already blush

sunshinegirl12 Mon 20-Jun-16 17:40:27

Friendly, think we are in the same position as to what is available with our local NHS, do you know how much medicated IUI will likely cost private? I feel the same as you, shocked that we have reached this stage as it never really occured to me we would be 'infertile'.

When AF arrives I will contact my private consultant to ask about cyclogest, fx x

Friendlycav Mon 20-Jun-16 19:13:18

Hi Sunshine, agree and sorry you are in a similar position to me.. it really sucks. I think a round of IUI privately is approx £800-1000 so really not cheap and chances aren't much higher than trying naturally. I've been looking at Create Fertility and a round of IVF is approx £2,500. Gulp. I found this website really informative re: techniques and prices www.createhealth.org/ Keeping my fingers crossed that AF stays away for you. I'm 4dpo and wondering whether to give progesterone a break this cycle. DH has been away and really not sure we dtd during my fertile window. Cyclogest costs £40 for 30 'bullets' privately.

maplebaby Mon 20-Jun-16 19:20:11

If you do have to go down the IVF route, have you considered going to the Czech Republic? I know a few ladies who have done so and its a lot cheaper than in the UK with better success rates I believe.

On another thread I'm on one lady has had experience with Reprofit. It's something I would definitely consider if I needed IVF, especially as I only get one "go" with the NHS (postcode lottery!).

sunshinegirl12 Mon 20-Jun-16 19:21:01

I've emailed the nurse at the fertility clinic about the cyclogest, i really hope they will give me a prescription esp as I'll be paying for it, it's not like they'll be losing out.

Thanks for sharing that website, I'll have a read later. It is alot of money, esp as there is no guarantee its going to work hmm Would you be able to have IVF on the NHS though? x

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