Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 6

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Hi all,
I just went to post on the old thread and noticed it had been locked, so here is a new one!
Come on in!

Hello.

I wasn't sure whether to start another or not, but glad you have done it, rowing!

Hi Horton,
I know! I did wait, to see if anyone else started one, but wasn't enjoying the 'wilderness' of having no thread.
I refuse to go on one of those 'buses'.

Cerubina Just tried to go on old thread to say CONGRATULATIONS and then found it was all full up.

I hope all our old friends find this one soon....where are you all?

Hi Rowing and Horton, very nice place you have got here.

Cerubina you must still be in shock!

Hello and welcome to DachshundsRule, LissySilver Loujalou, Idreaminfruitandnut, Keziahhopes, MM, BB, BagofHolly, Levistubbstears, SassySusan, lateatwork, Law, Londonlottie, RunLyraRun, KC11 and Sootykalucy - in no particular order!

And we have not forgotten Mojangles, Dueling Isle, Gingerwine and PerfectDromedary* from the old days.

chocolate boobs to all.

Hi again,
sorry, I had wanted to say how sorry I was to hear about your twin MM. I don't think there is anything I can say, but I hope you manage to allow yourself some time to grieve your little one and then look forward to holding your new baby.

Cerubina multiple congratulations to you. Take it easy now!

Goody, I'm glad you started a new thread rowing!

Off to second scan tomorrow. Hoping they'll find more follicles, as they've upped my dose. Weird how I'm on the same protocol and responding so differently...

Good luck, Lissy. Hope the follicles are growing nicely and there are lots more!

I have two days until I test.

Pretty sure it hasn't worked, though. I don't feel in the least pregnant.

Dropping in to chocolate up the new thread!

Hi Ladies!

Oh Cerubina - that's fabulous new:-) I got goosebumps reading your announcement post xxx

Welcome RunLyraRun. Grab a choccy biccie and get settled in :)

Ciao Italian xx

Well this morning I finally gave in and made myself an appointment with the counsellor at the fertility clinic. I'm struggling to get past feeling sad, angry and frustated and stomping my little feet and shouting "it's not fair" to get in a more (re)productive state of mind. I don't know if it'll help, but it's worth a shot...

Night ladies xxx

P.S. Was wondering - what does "BESH" stand for?

Idreaminfruitandnut best to get some counselling, it does help a lot and you can then move on. No idea what BESH means!

Night night all.

Barren Something Selfish Hags or similar, I think.

Elderly?

Evil! Otherwise spot on Horton. Best of luck for testing on Thursday. Your 2WW has felt at least 3 weeks long to me - must be worse for you too - let's hope your intuition is off kilter and actually you do have a little bun in the oven. Keeping everything crossed.

Thanks all for good wishes and excitement. We are gradually telling our friends and family and so far have had two ladies well up on our behalf, which is very sweet of them. Everyone is delighted for us. I'm feeling quite bleuch at the moment, wrung out and nauseous and have the attention span of a particularly inattentive gnat. I'm just glad to have some symptoms as it helps reassure that hormones are on the rise.

Idream it sounds as though counselling would be really valuable. I definitely missed a trick not getting some after my first m/c and I think it definitely kept me in the slough of despond quite a while longer than I might otherwise have been there. Can you get some from your clinic reasonably easily?

Good luck for the scan Lissy. Let us know how you get on - hope the follies have really got cracking in the last couple of days.

A bumper packet of double chocolate chip cookies to everyone!

PS I hope you don't mind me still loitering around here as I don't feel quite confident enough to leave my mothership and go anywhere else yet!

hope no one minds me butting in here, thought some of you ladies might be able to answer some technical stuff!

Background: TTC for about 2.5 years, got pregnant on 4th round Clomid but MMC at 12 weeks. Currently undergoing IUI but just had first round cancelled after failing to respond well to my dose of Puregon and Buserelin. I was wondering at what levels of these drugs I should be on. My FSH results have been ok but my last reading was 10.9.

I was on 75 Puregon (on the pen injection) and 0.3ml Buserelin for 10 days.

Best of luck all on here.

Hi there,

I am sending a test email as I have had some problems trying to log on.

newbishad

Hello all,

I have finally, finally posted.

Hello everyone.

Cerubina: Congratulations. You must be delighted.

MM I am really sorry to hear your news. It must be terribly difficult to stay positive whilst dealing with the death of one twin. I can only imagine what it's like. Lots of love through cyber space.

Idreamfruitandnut: Counselling can be of huge benefit. I tapped into it last night.

Good luck for the scan Lissy.

I have had a bit of a hard time of it as well. I have been lurking here for several years, sharing your stories. I have a DD (now two and three months) after my first IVF cycle three years ago.

I have been doing an FET cycle for the past 3 months, taking a cocktail of suprefract injections, estrogen and clexane. Everything was going fine until the big thaw. Only one small day 6 embryo survived (out of 4) and was put back yesterday so I am now on the 2ww. (anyone here got experience of day 6 blasts) I would love my DD to have a sibling but I realise (trying to be realistic) things might not work out. It is hard to stay clam and serene in order to give this embie the best chance when I have so many thoughts floating around in my head. We cannot afford another cycle, ect, ect, ect.

To make matters worse things were handled clumsily at the clinic yesterday. I was given a time to ring to find out how things were doing, but when I rang at the alotted time no-one could give an answer, although reading between the lines I thought information was being withheld. Half an hour later I was told all had been thawed, even though only two were scheduled for thawing. No-one, nurses, doctors, not anyone could tell me how many were due to go back until two minutes before transfer in theatre. Then they said, "Oh, only one has survived" They gave no indication of an average attition rate and I had to press for information about which of the 4 had survived. Oh and one final moan (I know I am feeling sad because I lost three embies and that is colouring my memories of the clinic)but they gave me the wrong day for testing, thinking I had day two embryos instead of blasts and they had to go away and check.

Anyway that's it for now. Good luck everyone and I'll talkkk again soon. I feel a bit better for writing it all down.

Thanks for listening

Newbishad

Hmm. 75 of Puregon sounds v low to me Barbie. That's the lowest dose the pen can do, isn't it? I was on Gonal-F pen for my round so I'm sure they don't equate exactly but IIRC was on 400 per day. I don't want to set hares running but it does sound as though they didn't give you a big enough dose and should have checked you early to see how you were responding so they could ramp it up.

Having said this, I found the below on some website -
"The dose usually starts at 75-150 IU daily. The dose is continued for at least 5 to 7 days. If there is no response, the daily dose will be gradually increased until an adequate response is obtained. The daily dose
is then maintained until a follicle of adequate size is present."

So starting you on that may not have been a mistake but it does sound as if you could have safely been given a bigger dose to see what effect it had. On the upside they will know better next time and you will also have the information to challenge them if they start low again.

hello all!

so I had my first IUI on Monday and am now officially in the 2WW.

My official test day is 29 Sep.

Barbie I've been TTC for 7 years and this is my first IUI - they put me on 100mg of clomid and the progynova 3 times a day to thicken my lining. My FSH was 11.4, so don't worry too much about the 10.9.

Fingers crossed for a positive outcome.

I had a question for all you ladies out there who know about this stuff though - the drugs made me feel really bad before the IUI - I think (as the symptoms have gone now) that it was to do with the follicles growing etc. but I had really bad cramps and pains - is that normal? The clinic didn't seem particularly bothered, but I was in a lot of pain and I'd like to know whether to expect that next time if this time is unsuccessful (which I think it will be).

I'm wishing luck and sticky baby dust to all who are on their 2WW. Horton, hang in there sweetie.

Another scan today showed only six follicles. Last cycle I had nineteen! Slightly nervous and upset, but what can I do? It looks like my EC will be Saturday...

Welcome to all the lurkers!

DachshundsRule I never had any real pain with the drugs for IUI.

Just aching hands and most recently aching boobs, which were well documented here with Buceralin, which is used in IVF.

I would ask the clinic again and try and get some concrete info from them.

LissySilver it's been well said before but it is quality not quantity so all the very best for egg collection. We are all rooting for you.

Barbie welcome, I am afraid I can't help with info but wish you all the best.

newbishad1 welcome. I am so sorry you have had a tough time and I can certainly sympathise. I lost just one embie at clinic last May and felt gutted. It may be that there was nothing they could do at all ut it is a shame clinic was not more clear with you. So are you now on the 2 week wait? Good luck.

Thinking of you all, choc, Horton, MM (Please come back and say hi when you can), cerubina BB and all you lovely ladies.

All the best.

Hi there,

I feel a bit better went for a long walk this afternoon and cleared the cobwebs. Thanks Italiangreyhound for your best wishes. IVF really is a rollercoaster isn't it.

Good luck Lissysilver.

Horton fingers, toes and everything crossed.

Newbishad

newbishad that all sounds incredibly tough and I'm not surprised it upset you.

Many thanks for everyone's kind good wishes and I hope everyone else on the 2WW isn't finding things too bad. I am pretty convinced that I am not pregnant and am basically waiting for my period to start.

Dachsund I think it depends very much on the drugs. My first cycle with Gonal F and Cetrotide wasn't at all painful but my recent Gonal F and Buserelin cycle made my tummy very sore pre-EC.

Six follicles is plenty, Lissy. I believe there are people here who've had four eggs or even fewer and managed to get pregnant! I think you have every chance of a good outcome. As Italian says, it's quality not quantity! What was your fertilisation rate like last time?

MM, how are you? Hope you are getting lots of rest and being looked after.

Good luck to choc and Italian re counselling. It sounds like a good plan for both of you.

I have a blood test booked for tomorrow at 10, if my period doesn't arrive before then, so I should know tomorrow afternoon what's happened.

Love to everyone.

Also, meant to say, Cerubina, it's lovely to have you still around on the thread. Nice to see the successful outcome in action which is what we all want!

Thanks for all the well wishes. I guess I'm still thinking about my last cycle, where at this time I had 19 follicles.

Horton--Last cycle was 19 eggs, 12 mature, 7 fertilized. I had two implanted, and only one made it to sufficient quality to freeze.

As it turns out, my EC will NOT be on Saturday. I have to shoot myself up tonight and tomorrow night, then go for a scan on Friday. My trigger shot is in the fridge, waiting to go...

Hi ladies, quick post.

Lissy good luck.

Horton Thinking of you.

I lost 4 and a half pounds today at my first Rosemary Conley weigh in and was slimmer of the weight.

I am delighted.

Horton I am due to have a visit to the councellor at the our clinic appointment this month, so you are right. I hope it will be helpful.

Once we have seen the consultant and ordered the drugs for treatment we will be ready to go. I am now looking on the weight, hopefully 8 months at the end of September, as a preparation time to get into tip top condition. I need to lose a lot so my goal is two and a half stone by Christmas (which is 2 and a half pounds a week, eeeek!)

Love to you all.

That is a Freudian slip, I said weight and meant wait!

Oooopse another Freudian slip I've spotted, I said slimmer of the weight and I meant slimmer of the week!

night all!