Genuinely don't know who is being unreasonable here. (Puppy related).

(215 Posts)
PinkPjamas Mon 28-Dec-15 23:18:31

I'll try to keep this short.

A friend of a friend (FoF) is a backstreet breeder-being an animal lover I 100% disapprove.

One pup of the last litter was rejected by Mum.

I was advised about this in the middle of the night, pup was one week old, I went to emergency vet and purchased pup formula and rushed over with it.

Three days later, I was called by FoF, pup won't take formula, again, me being an animal lover-morals told me to go and help. I went to supermarket, purchased greek yogurt, syrup, a syringe, goats milk, stuff I knew is okay for pup to have, drove the 45 mins there to help, got pup to feed, came back.

BSB then tried to raise pup herself but couldn't cope with litter of pups, two other dogs, Mum etc. Pup fell and hurt herself few times and also had narrow misses with Mum who was still out to kill her. I took pup on myself. I live with a friend who I checked with if this was okay and if he was willing to be part of it as obviously he would be, living with us both. He doesn't work-I do so I had to ensure he could and was willing, to take care of her when I wasn't about.

He's also daft for animals, like me and agreed and has done the care when I've not been here.

Since then I've taken pup to vet twice, taken care of her, done night feeds, bought food and more formula you get the picture.
I realise, I didn't have to do any of this and it has all been my choice.

Now, my friend and I have a dog each, so we live together with our two dogs. Luckily both okay with pup.

Friend's said he doesn't want pup to go back to BSB, doesn't want her to end up in a potentially dodgy home, thus will happily keep her himself. However, BSB wants paying for pup.

BSB has now sold all other pups, and has said she'll give my friend a discount, meaning instead of paying £4-£600 , he can have pup for £200.

People aware of the situation have all said, pup would be dead without mine and his intervention, therefore BSB shouldn't charge him at all.

I honestly do not know. Some people have said haggle, others have said point blank pup should be given to him, as the situation means pup would have died if not for our intervention.

What do you think?

PuntasticUsername Mon 28-Dec-15 23:20:46

I think the BSB has more front than Blackpool.

HeartShapedBox Mon 28-Dec-15 23:22:16

I think the woman who bred the pup has a fucking cheek.

Total greeder.

OwlinaTree Mon 28-Dec-15 23:23:23

I think she can whistle for it.

MrsTerryPratchett Mon 28-Dec-15 23:24:53

Dreadful bastard. Her, of course.

I don't live in the UK but would the RSPCA do anything?

Alternatively, make up an invoice for your time, supplies and mileage and tell her to shove it where the sun don't shine pay it.

BernardsarenotalwaysSaints Mon 28-Dec-15 23:25:18

She should be paying you...the time you have put in to raising that puppy over the last 7+ weeks far exceeds £200.

knaffedoff Mon 28-Dec-15 23:26:26

I wouldn't pay and would invoice cheeky mare for the call outs, expenses and others costs including time and labour.

abbsismyhero Mon 28-Dec-15 23:27:02

chip the pup she can take you to court if she wants the money my guess is she wont

TheHouseOnTheLane Mon 28-Dec-15 23:27:42

Tell the cow to take it out of your face. Warn her that you will report her to RSPCA if she EVER has another litter that she can't look after and tell your housemate that this person is not a friend.

PuntasticUsername Mon 28-Dec-15 23:27:48

Add up how much you've spent on emergency vet fees, formula, food; and add in a suitable labour charge for you and your friend's care of the pup. With an unsociable hours premium for the night care, of course. Bet it comes to more than £200.

Then bill HER.

IMurderedStampyLongnose Mon 28-Dec-15 23:29:04

No fucking way should you pay,that bastard owes you if anything😡😡Poor wee dogs.

AnchorDownDeepBreath Mon 28-Dec-15 23:29:14

If you pay BSB for the puppy, you are supporting their "business". That's why the RSPCA et al say not to buy puppies from backyard breeders even if they are poorly.

I'm glad your puppy is okay now but absolutely do not pay for him/her. Don't support the puppy farm any further.

MsAdorabelleDearheartVonLipwig Mon 28-Dec-15 23:29:37

I agree about totting up all your expenses this far and presenting her with a bill. And then reporting her as a puppy farm. That sort of thing is very looked down upon these days and might get her in enough trouble to prevent her doing it again.

Scarydinosaurs Mon 28-Dec-15 23:31:23

Bill her for your services- such cheek!

CloakAndJagger Mon 28-Dec-15 23:32:20

I agree that you should tot up all of your out of pocket expenses and bill her for those and your time.

Or suggest that she backs off.

MrsTerryPratchett Mon 28-Dec-15 23:33:19

Also, I wonder if she reports the income to the tax man. <whistles innocently>

PinkPjamas Mon 28-Dec-15 23:33:23

Thank you, everyone. I was hoping for that answer but honestly was fairly confused over it.

I agree with all the people who've said about her breeding. And I've wanted to report her, believe me but my friend who is her friend,is quite scared of her for various reasons. I don't want to cause trouble for her, either sad .

PinkPjamas Mon 28-Dec-15 23:33:57

MrsTerry believe me, I've thought that, too. She's on benefits.

tazzle22 Mon 28-Dec-15 23:34:38

pup would be dead if it were not for you and friend .. you were called upon to help out which you did ... saved pups life... pup will be bonded with you not other dogs so may well need very competent and understanding human as these pups do not always socialise well with other dogs....

Yup. Also tell BSB this pup not worth full price anyway as may be behind in development due to poor start, might not reach standard if its a pedigree etc

soo worth £300 max to anyone who knows anything about pedigree dogs (if it is) or dog development in general.

Tak away all the food , petrol and expenses never mind your time.... she owes you !!!!!!

PinkPjamas Mon 28-Dec-15 23:37:25

Thank you. I'll figure out a way to tell her we aren't paying for her. I love animals and no way could have lived with myself had I not intervened.And yes, being hand reared she will be difficult, I realise. It's really not been easy with her-let alone the getting up 3 times a night to bottle feed and stuff.

DirectorFury Mon 28-Dec-15 23:42:42

I bet BSB isn't declaring earnings to HMRC and therefore isn't paying tax on them.

I'd be tempted to mention this to her while refusing to pay for the pup (she should pay you, tbh!).

And then report the fucker anyway in a few weeks. Can't stand people who just see animals as a way to make money angry.

DirectorFury Mon 28-Dec-15 23:43:51

X-posted, just seen she's on benefits. Definitely get onto HMRC asap, and maybe give them some helpful pointers about where the pups are advertised wink.

PinkPjamas Mon 28-Dec-15 23:46:39

Thanks, everyone who has replied. Anchor trust me I completely agree with you. But an animal who I was asked to help with, I just couldn't let her die knowing I could do something about it sad .

abbsismyhero Mon 28-Dec-15 23:47:11

can you prove she is selling the pups? do you have a copy of the advert? if you have proof you can report her

if you're really scared of her tell her the pup developed serious difficulties and had to be pts if she is never a guest in your home she will never know and im sure your friend will keep her mouth shut too

PinkPjamas Mon 28-Dec-15 23:49:22

No abbsismyhero. I think most if not all, of it has been word of mouth. But yes, obviously lying isn't something I would endorse but, this situation may call for it. Thanks.

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