Conway Hall no-platforms Rad Fem Event

[Nyac]

The group formerly known as women is not allowed to organise politically. The law disallows it.

conwayhall.org.uk/statement-regarding-radfem-2012

"Statement Regarding RadFem 2012
In consultation with the organisers of RadFem 2012 and our legal advisors, Conway Hall has decided not to allow the booking in July 2012 to proceed. This is because it does not conform to our Terms and Conditions for hiring rooms at Conway Hall. In addition, we are not satisfied it conforms with the Equality Act (2010), or reflects our ethos regarding issues of discrimination.

We had sought assurances that the organisers would allow access to all, in order to enable the event to proceed at the venue. We also expressed concern that particular speakers would need to be made aware that whilst welcoming progressive thinking and debate, Conway Hall seeks to uphold inclusivity in respect of both legal obligations and as a principle."

[KalSkirata]

lets just negate women shall we
This is awful.

[Northernlurker]

[Nyac]

Conway Hall once provided a venue for the National Front:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Lion_Square_disorders

[KalSkirata]

fucking hypocrites. They dont have full disabled access or changing facilities or hoists. So they are fucking hypocrites.

[KalSkirata]

and they didnt mind a general feminist conference exluding men right?

[Northernlurker]

Wow - the management of Conway Hall are...............men.

Who'd have thought it?

here

[Leithlurker]

NYAC. Once again you have chosen to wilfully neglect the facts in order to not miss out on an imaginary slight at anyone with an ovary.

1974 was when the national front held that rally, not any time since the disability discrimination act and then the equality act came in to place. Instead of seeking to blame men for not agreeing to a women only event, perhaps you should have a go at the inept organisers who have had at least two years to learn how to fill out the booking form correctly so that the event could meet all the onus of equality duty placed on the halls management committee.

[SardineQueen]

In 1974 everyone knew the NF were racist violent bastards though

[Nyac]

"Once again you have chosen to wilfully"

That's enough to tell me that whatever follows is not going to be worth engaging with. Don't speak to me like that.

Moving on, women being censored and having our voices silenced, by male organisations and laws - that's not good.

[Northernlurker]

The Conway Hall statement means nobody could be excluded. No women born as men or men living as men. I don't find that acceptable

[CardgamesFTW]

It's very alarming, Nyac. I've encountered the idea and debate before that women's only groups and spaces are "sexist against men" (and now also transphobic) but recently there have been a lot incidents where this idea has been put into action.

[RulersMakeBadLovers]

FFS, do the group formerly known as women have to anchor a ship 12 and a bit miles offshore in order have a political meeting?



As I said on the other thread - in 10 years time, when feminists can only talk about trans-women applicable topics in public forums and the rights of women have regressed because there is no meaning in the term "woman" and Dorries-a-likes have little organised opposition, I will remember this week.

[SigmundFraude]

Cheer up. My DH has got a shed on the allotment you can use, he's not bothered if you ban people. He does politely request that you leave the spuds alone, and don't nick the polytunnel.

[EatsBrainsAndLeaves]

The Equality Act does not stop women born women events. Conway Hall have taken this decision, but there is no legal reason to take this decision.

[ecclesvet]

If there's a male-only space: "Old boy's club! Archaic! Smash in the name of feminism!"
If there's a female-only space: "Safe space! Necessary! Defend in the name of feminism!"

[SardineQueen]

Black only space
Gay only space
Trans people have trans only events
And so on

Just FAAB women who aren't allowed to meet or talk about things that matter to them like maternal mortality or FGM or any number of other issues.

[VashtiBunyan]

Some male only spaces are needed to address specific issues. I don't know what the point is of strawman arguments.

[SardineQueen]

Yes Vashti

[Nyac]

I've reported your personal attack Bruxeur.

Back to the subject - yes XX people are the only people not allowed to set our own boundaries and define ourselves. Apparently men won't let us.

[bruxeur]

That's a bit desperate, nyac. And untrue.

[WidowWadman]

"As I said on the other thread - in 10 years time, when feminists can only talk about trans-women applicable topics in public forums and the rights of women have regressed because there is no meaning in the term "woman" and Dorries-a-likes have little organised opposition, I will remember this week."

Paranoid much? The only trans women I know acknowledge feminist topics which aren't directly related to trans issues as important too. If someone wants to shut down topics like that it's not because they're trans, but because they're arses.

I guess there'd be much less animosity if it wasn't for some radfems openly demanding the repealing of rights trans people have fought hard for.

As it is, you can be an arse no matter what your sex is.

[Nyac]

Why don't you engage with the topic of the thread instead of trying to make it about me bruxeur.

A radical feminist event has been no-platformed. This is censorship - other people taking it upon themselves deciding how women conduct our politics.

[bruxeur]

"I've reported your personal attack"

"this is censorship"

Oh lol. PhD in insight for table 4 please!

[Hullygully]

Surely they can find another venue?