Downton Abbey Discussion continued...

[ErikNorseman]

Here!

[HoldMeCloserTonyDanza]

Ethel is going to be Isobel's cook (possibly replacing the oul bitch who wouldn't pass her a tray).

[HoldMeCloserTonyDanza]

Re: Mrs H, she was not especially sympathetic by our standards but she's gone above and beyond by 1920 standards. Giving her food, writing on her behalf, meeting her in public.

I do wish she'd given her a hug at the end there though

[WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes]

Daisy and the new kitchen maid are going to be at each others throats. Poor Daisy, she could do with a happy storyline.

[tribpot]

So Pickle's clearly gonna do a bunk for Ireland, I can't believe identification was so sophisticated in 1920 that he couldn't just pretend to be his own cousin for a while without getting rumbled. They've hardly got retina scanning at customs, after all.

V disappointed not to hear Dame Maggie advising anyone to chillax.

So now that Ethel has given up Charlie, Isabel is going to offer her a job? I like the fact she's willing to practice what she preaches, although it'd be a darn sight easier for Ethel to get a job with one of Isabel's sympathetic friends, where no-one knows who she is (note point about retina scanning above).

Could the Anna and Bates story finally be over? I do hope so.

And go Edith - time to get your radical on.

[Chubfuddler]

I have just about contained my hysterical sobs now. Amy Nuttall is a fantastic actress I loves her.

Mrs h had a big problem with the shagging but she was quite kind about the baby.

[LizLemon007]

I missed it. What is Edith up to? is she over the wedding that didn't happen?
and bates? did he do it?

[Mama1980]

Just marking my place. Ethel made me cry this week

[tribpot]

Edith has decided to become a radical. She wrote to the newspaper to complain about the lack of universal suffrage for women and they printed the letter, to Lord 6's horror (and Carson's for that matter).

She barely mentioned the wedding-that-wasn't, just banged on about having to come downstairs for breakfast because she is a spinster.

It seemed from the trailer that Anna has proof that Vera killed herself and deliberately set Bates up to take the fall for it. Hope so - mainly so the bloody storyline can come to an end.

Btw Lord 6 referred to Syb-wig as 'Lady Sybil Branson'. Surely she has forfeited her title in favour of a life of pickle-related humour?

[dementedma]

Ooh good episode tonight. Cried at little charlie being taken away. Pickle is not above seeking refuge with the English aristocracy when it suits him. He is a shit.

[LizLemon007]

Oh thanks, good for Lady Edith. what's the pickle reference?

[Moln]

Lizlemon do you want to be told orwatch on the player?

[WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes]

I think she can be called that but not Lady Branson or Lady Jack Branson or whatever his name is.

[LizLemon007]

I don't think I can watch it on the player with a dongle

[HoratiaWinwood]

Nope, she will always be Lady Sibyl rather than Mrs. I may or may not have relevant family members so I know this for a fact

I think Bates did it. From a plot perspective I think it would be more interesting if he had!

Poor Daisy helplessly chasing daffy footmen.

It's a bit ... obvious this series though. A bit soapy and transparent. Loving it but not exactly challenged.

[Chubfuddler]

Surely JF has dropped a massive clanged with lady Sybil Branson? There's no such person. She's mrs Branson as pickles wife and lady Sybil Crawley as fatty bum bums daughter. It's not a mix and match kind of thang. You'd think JF knew that.

[Moln]

Hmmmm exactly HOW long did it take me to write that v short sentance?

[HoratiaWinwood]

DH and I were discussing how Tom (lol at "Pickle") had started off all huffy but very quickly got used to feather beds and cigars and port. Speaking of which, Matthew seems to be enjoying those too!

Amused by the scene where Matthew thought Mary was going to tell him she was pg but she pretty much said "God no, you must be kidding". Arf arf.

[tribpot]

Ah yes Horatia I see from Wiki that "The daughters of dukes, marquesses and earls are by courtesy ladies; here that title is prefixed to the given and family name of the lady, e.g. The Lady Jane Smith, and this is preserved if the lady marries a commoner, e.g. Mr John and The Lady Jane Smith."

[LFCisTarkaDahl]

Lady Sybil Grantham not Crawley surely,

[HoratiaWinwood]

surely JF has dropped a massive clanged with lady Sybil Branson? There's no such person. She's mrs Branson as pickles wife and lady Sybil Crawley as fatty bum bums daughter. It's not a mix and match kind of thang. You'd think JF knew that.

Erm, no. That is how it works. Mr and Lady Sibyl Branson.

JF slips this stuff in to catch you out. Like Cora calling the bloke who died in series one "duke" - cue sniffy but wrong letters to the papers. The huge research team wouldn't let wrong stuff through.

[LizLemon007]

Is he that 'lower class' though? he is IRISH but that is not the same as lower class. He can read and there was some reference to his family being respectable in the last series.

what did he do in this episode that was bad?

[HoratiaWinwood]

He is Robert Crawley, Earl of Grantham. Surname Crawley. Hence Mary didn't change her name when she married Matthew.