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can i just point out to BALD that what i organised for TWR was a surprise. i am assuming by "surprise" you think she knew about it? i am not sure what you mean by me getting in on the act. i was just trying to do one good turn for another.
We had the World's Crappest Troll (tm) on a sci-fi forum I used to moderate. He was ALWAYS inconsistent with his bollocks stories, but the final straw was when he posted a picture of himself - it was actually a still from a Johnny Depp film
We called him out on it straight away, and it caused much amusement
i was considered a troll once. (my biggest online fear is that i still may be considered one)....anyway mn helped me with the problem i was having (when i was being accused of being a troll) at that time. no one these days can help me with my current problem: no matter what i try, fenu greek seeds, cabbage,onion juice i can't seem to produce enough breast milk.
but in general, some mn'ers do seem to need more help a lot more regularly than others. but then again whose to say that they aren't falling on severely hard times or not?
Or maybe she just needed help and support. Like some other people on here do too.
There's always a risk that you may be taken in by someone on the internet but equally or probably more likely the person is genuine. Whether someone chooses to help or not is up to them. If they do it doesn't make them a mug.
Nine times out of ten the troll accusations on this website are incorrect. Just people who think they have some kind of special knowledge and can see through a computer screen into someone's heart.
speaking of trolls, (the naked little ones with funky hair) does it not bother anyone that with all that hair up top, they don't seem to have matching hair like that anywhere else?
My concern is that it is often the least emotionally stable people that pile in to lend emotional support, perhaps because they know how much of a difference it can make.
These people are sadly often the least well equipped to cope with any fallout from giving that support and getting too involved.
I'm not sure there is much you can do about it, but I do read some of the threads and shudder sometimes, before quickly pressing 'hide'!
theres my details cod, feel free to avail yourself of all my money.
COV, i don't think they were on the phone biull thread though. I think they had given money/material things for a diffeent reason and when it all kicked off they assumed that they would be repaid as well. asfarasiamaware that is what happened anyway. I don't have any contact with her anymore for my own reaons.
everyone is entitled to their opinion on posters, some vocalise it, others don't. I think that in cases where posters (real or otherwise) are using a lot of their time and emotion over and over then MNHQ needs to send an email that simply says "please be aware that people are not always who they make out to be when they are online. We have noticed you are supporting and just wanted to send you a reminder, there is no need to be suspicious" (or something like that)
sending money or gifts is pretty obvious that you should only do it if you know and trust the poster. giving your emotions to someone is often hard to take a step back from if you are involved deeply
There was a birthday appeal organised by her friend that was completely separate and was above board.
I had visited TWR, i sometimes work in an office a few miles from her so dropped in for a cuppa. We also spoke on the phone a few times.
Other people had contributed to her separately off their own backs and that was up to them. So some didn't receive money back but all who contributed to the phone bill appeal were paid back as far as i am aware. She had stated on that appeal thread that she would pay everyone back for the phone bill.
There was no request for her to pay anything else back.
I do think she gets bashed a bit. Nobody was forced to help her.
TWR received help from some mumsnetters to pay her phone bill as she was going to be cut off. She then got a budgetting loan and as far as i am aware paid everyone back who had contributed to that bill. It was not a scam. However, there was then a long debate on whether or not she was relying on mumsnet for money to bail her out, it all got quite nasty and she has not been here for a while now. She was not a troll.
Thanks for that Carrie, hope it didn't cause a sleepless night for you all!
By carriemumsnet on Thu 02-Oct-08 10:28:00
(from MNHQ)
Hi all
First off, apologies that we weren't able to make a statement on this last night, but we needed to do a bit of digging and investigating (not to mention that it was all kicking off way past some MNHQers' bedtimes .)
So, just to clarify, EC was not connected to CvQ, or indeed to any other Mumsnetter. EC was misleading people on the boards and because of that has now been banned.
The people doing the badgering thought they were going to get the real name of the EC troll. Instead CvQ was dragged into the EC thread for no good reason.
EC was questioned by a few people about inconsistancies and EC, after saying she was being hacked/other people were using log in, fessed up and then said she was ECs mum, had set up account for teen mum daughter but used it herself. Then said 'it had you all going tho'
On another thread, people wanted MN to out who EC was. Lots of speculating. Psychomum and flame both said they were suspicious or someone after that person used a childhood story of theirs in their post, after much pressing, they admitted it was CvQ. No one said CvQ was EC. A few other names were mentioned too and I'm sure they feel just as bad
I think MN should come on now and clarify who EC was, if she is a reg, or just say if she was a new poster trolling
certainly can't see anyone would blame you PSM5 and Flame did only start a tiny fire which then got fanned into a much bigger blaze by others. And yes she was badgered into starting it, but she did start it.
because, if you were there on the thread, people badgered and also she wasn't alone in naming names and so it's unfair to slate only her in the whole fracas especially now as thread's been pulled.
therefore Ethan not a reg, but recent poster, whose mother started posting under her (ethan's) name, and ethan didn't realsie, and ethan's mother has now got ethaninto trub.
I am not going to say on the board what happened between me and CvQ, that would be unfair of me in light that it will reveal something about myself I don;t feel completely comfortable with releaving here, and also, it will reveal something told to me in confidence and I am not the person to reveal that either.
everything here tongith has gotten blown completely out of proportion, and it is not just flame who named names, so please, stop blaming her.......there were others who said stuff too, they seem to be lost in the haze tho and there is no proving either way as the thread has been pulled.
suffice to say, flame did as a friend does, and for that I love her.
One thing I've noticed about Mumsnet is that there is always a never-ending supply of excuses and rationalisations for meanness.
In my book "She did it because she's my friend" doesn't cut it. I'm sorry you got hurt Psycho, but that was a terrible thread for Flame and others to start stirring shit about CvQ.
I think you might need to spell it out for me Phsycho, because I just am not getting it.
You (I presume willingly) got involved in helping CvQ and you got into it more than you felt comfortable with? She then said something that affected you, so you felt you had to withdraw your support from her? What part of that led to CvQ being exposed as a potential troll? I just cannot see the linkage between your getting too involved and someone else being a troll?
PSM5 what a horrid position you are in. Sorry. I do worry whether that thread (about ec) the right place to voice those concerns about Cvq though. I think that in the kind of situation you describe, withdrawal is probably the only option.
all I can say is that MNHQ have been supportive to CvQ so they believe that she is not a troll. No, I don't suppose they do know for certain whether or not someone is a troll but I am sure they feel that this is a support site and that thread was far from it.
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And it was Christmas. 
