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Toddler with trapped wind at night

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Tellytub Mon 02-Mar-09 09:16:39

Hi, I am new to mumsnet. I have a ds 18 months, who has suffered terrible tummy pain and trapped wind since birth, being unable to sleep for any length of time at night. He has seen so many docs but we are told that he will most likely grow out of it. We have had trials avoiding all sorts of foods but it seems that all food upsets him. I am constantly searching the internet on information on toddlers with abdominal pain and trapped wind and came across a message on mumsnet from Fimbles who has dd, same age as my ds, with near exact symptoms. Alas the message was posted at the end of 2003. I am desperate to find out if fimbles found a cure for her dd but unable to contact her by CAT messaging. If anyone knows or is in contact with fimbles I would be most grateful if you would let her know of my message. If anyone else has any advice to offer please help. My son has recently been started on Lactulose 10 ml twice daily and Senna 10 ml at night. Initially he passed a lot of wind and slept pain-free for 5 nights but his symptoms recurred and he has been in agony again for 2 weeks. There is also a question of silent reflux and he has been on Ranitidine syrup for quite a while but again we are not really sure if this helps. He also now seems to be in pain, holding his bottom, when passing stools which is maybe once or twice a day.

Jo2007 Mon 27-Aug-12 22:01:10

Also to add that I still use a homeopath but not for allergy testing but Classical homeopathy - maybe worth people knowing there are different approaches with this treatment. Society of homeopaths website gives more info.

bobbins31 Thu 06-Sep-12 09:15:33

Hi all...im gutted this thread is old! is there anyone still out there!?..my one yr old has suffered since she was born...the last comment was made last yr...i hope that someone is still out there to help!?..x

twinplusbigsismum Mon 10-Sep-12 23:47:57

For Jo2007, my daughter also starting school in a couple of days, I am going to send packed lunch. She virtually lives on homemade bolognese with passata, grated carrots and courgettes, mixed herbs, stock cube (beware of some) I use baby ones or knorr. I guess you could use quorn mince? Rice, rice pasta, lots of fresh berries, (lots of meat, sorry!), (she will also eat cod fillets, smoked mackeral and loves tinned or smoked salmon as the free from fish fingers have potato in the coating.) DS gluten free crispbreads with pure sunflower spread, these are the main things she eats daily. I have found she can tolerate genius white bread too (despite the potato starch). I am hoping she will have a sandwich or crispbreads, meat/fish and some berries for lunch and her main meal at tea time. This will be a big change, as we have always given ours their main meal at lunch and a light tea so they have more time to digest it! (It's the getting her to school by 8.30 I'm dreading too!)

Re the allergy testing thing, I did see your post. It seems although a lot of people mention food allergies and tests/results. On a recent visit to pedatrician they have referred the twins for food testing now and I await an appointment. Will let you know how it goes. If its any good I will pursue getting it for 4 yr old as with her all I got told was that it was separation anxiety!

Jo2007 Tue 11-Sep-12 22:25:48

Thank you for the reply twinplusbigsismum. It is interesting to read, and perhaps show how different these children probably are in reacting to foods. My DD can't tolerate rice but she does ok on maximum of 2 slices of brown organic bread toasted for tea with dairy free spread - but not if it is not toasted and salmon she reacted to on eating, and I have just had to take out sardines as she seemed to not be doing well on this. Quorn is out for me as she is awful with mushroom from which Quorn is produced. Maybe I should try more meat but I tried her with chicken once and it didn't go well so it put me off.
I hope the start at school has gone ok. I too give the main meal (if you can call it that) at lunch and I was too worried to change it so very limited on the work front for me with her coming home for lunch. But she is still struggling and I really feel any change would mean the sleep would go again.
I remember reading about how you were told it was seperation anxiety. One of my GP's said to me that he didn't know who he was treating, me or her - suggesting that I was making it up!
Will look out for further updates.

lucylookout Wed 19-Sep-12 09:59:11

I'm here too. DS is only 9 weeks old. Since birth he has grunted through the night, but for the last few weeks he wakes up crying due to trapped wind and barely sleeps between 2 and 6am. At around 6 I take him into bed with me and this morning he managed to manoeuvre himself onto his front and slept like that for an hour or so. He had been displaying more reflux symptoms too (pain during, after feeding and throwing up quite a lot) but I gave up dairy a couple of weeks ago and I think maybe that's helped. It's just the trapped wind that's left. I also took him to a cranial osteopath last week and will be going back this week. She's doing some work on his diaphragm.
I hoped he might grow out of it at around the magic 3 month mark, but am a bit depressed looking through this thread at how long it can go on for!

onelittlemonkey Wed 26-Sep-12 22:56:32

windy DS here too - with the same writhing about, screaming and kicking for 40 minutes or so...culminating in some loud trumping and a relieved cuddle. Poor wee thing. It's only once every few nights thank goodness.

I have a dairy intolerance so he might too, and he eats a lot of raisins so I'll try cutting those out, marking my place incase anyone else joins with any suggestions.

SJmumofamonkey Thu 08-Nov-12 11:39:09

Oh wow reading some of these posts is like reading a diary of the last 14months of our lives. It has inspired me so much I have registered and posted after many months of stalking these pages. I had problems BF DD from birth, she would constantly fuss, pull off and arch her back screaming, this ended up in me developing an absess which I was hospitalised for. The whole thing was traumatic, I felt like such a failure, racked with guilt, and the BF support people kept insisting I must have been doing something wrong. As a result DD ended up on formula. This was when the extreme screaming started, she would refure feeds, vomit, arch her cack and writhe around, she was so strong at 8 weeks from all the wringgling. HV said sounded like reflux, GP fobbed us off repeatedly until at 4 months I took her to A+E because she'd choked and stopped breathing. She ended up on ranitadine and gaviscon and lactulose and things settled for a while. At 1 when we introduced cows milk she stopped sleeping. She's sleep 45 minutes at most and wake up in agony writhing around trying to pass wind, after 2 weeks of no sleep we switched to lactose free, less wind more diarhoea, up to 10 times a day for weeks, we switched to soy, no different again. Finally 2 weeks ago her bum was bleeding it was so bad and we snapped and insisted the doctors referred us to a specialist. Within 30 mins and no tests he diagnosed MSPI. We have cut all soy and milk except baked products, so far so good, she is 80% improved and has slept through 3 nights in a row. She has never slept through. I am in 2 minds about eliminating from cooked products I am hoping to avoid it.

It has been such a hard 14 months. I only hope this time we have cracked it. 2 weeks ago DH and I were in the depths of depression and now I am starting to let myself hope this is the end. This whole experience has left me scarred though, I wanted more children but I dread having to do this all again...sorry for rambling blush

SJmumofamonkey Thu 08-Nov-12 11:49:27

Oh wow reading some of these posts is like reading a diary of the last 14months of our lives. It has inspired me so much I have registered and posted after many months of stalking these pages. I had problems BF DD from birth, she would constantly fuss, pull off and arch her back screaming, this ended up in me developing an absess which I was hospitalised for. The whole thing was traumatic, I felt like such a failure, racked with guilt, and the BF support people kept insisting I must have been doing something wrong. As a result DD ended up on formula. This was when the extreme screaming started, she would refure feeds, vomit, arch her cack and writhe around, she was so strong at 8 weeks from all the wringgling. HV said sounded like reflux, GP fobbed us off repeatedly until at 4 months I took her to A+E because she'd choked and stopped breathing. She ended up on ranitadine and gaviscon and lactulose and things settled for a while. At 1 when we introduced cows milk she stopped sleeping. Se was clingy and cranky and couldn't be put down. She'd sleep 45 minutes at most and wake up in agony writhing around trying to pass wind, after 2 weeks of no sleep we switched to lactose free, less wind more diarhoea, up to 10 times a day for weeks, we switched to soy, no different again. Finally 2 weeks ago her bum was bleeding it was so bad and we snapped and insisted the doctors referred us to a specialist. Within 30 mins and no tests he diagnosed MSPI. We have cut all soy and milk except baked products, so far so good, she is 80% improved and has slept through 3 nights in a row. She has never slept through. I am in 2 minds about eliminating from cooked products I am hoping to avoid it.

It has been such a hard 14 months. I only hope this time we have cracked it. 2 weeks ago DH and I were in the depths of depression and now I am starting to let myself hope this is the end. This whole experience has left me scarred though, I wanted more children but I dread having to do this all again...sorry to ramble but once I stared I couldn't stop blush

Jo2007 Sun 18-Nov-12 17:08:07

Message for twinsplusbigsismom. How are things going at school for your dd? I tried beef with my dd but no good, same with stock cubes. Have also recently tried coconut milk and coconut water and dairy-free pro-biotics - no good for us but maybe worth a try for someone. Also tried slow cooking all veg, but again no better, in fact think it made her worse. Do you still use the digest aid you mentioned? I really wish someone would post to say that their little one grew out of this!

NiniLegsInTheAir Sun 09-Dec-12 22:01:01

Sorry to resurrect a zombie thread but I'm worried about my DD (2 next month). She had severe colic when small for her first 3 months, and still gets nights, tonight being one of them, when she wakes up crying in pain until she manages to fart it out.

I admit I've been a rubbish mum by not giving her anything to take for it lately, every GP I've seen has said she'll grow out of it but I'm worried that it could effect her forever and could be a symptom of something serious?

Any advice on where to start? What causes this? sad

Satine5 Sat 29-Dec-12 08:26:43

Hi Nini, I am afraid that I still have no answers since my original post. My dd is now 18 months and after some improvement at night, we have been back to square one with her night gas last week. I gave up on GPs, went the provate route but that didn't give me much either. We did the allergy tests, all came back negative and the pediatrician concluded it could be cow milks protein intolerance and immature gut. However, I have been on dairy free diet for months before and dd is also but she still gets terrible trapped wind. Oh, i have also stopped soya.
By trial and error, I also try not to give her raisins, sweetcorn, peas, onion and garlic. But she still gets horrible nights like last night, when she was up 4 times, wanted to nurse constantly and cried in pain. She let out a few massive farts eventually first thing in the morning and afterwards was like a completely different baby.
I am not sure if this will help you or not, hope you get your answers. Btw, my dd suffered from silent reflux as a baby and I wonder if this is connected.

quinster80 Fri 11-Jan-13 23:57:14

Just saw this thread and had to write.
Have a 21 month old who's had a floppy larynx since after birth ish. Has never slept more than 4 hours in a go. Screams with trapped wind...will head butt and throw himself around trying to get rid off it. Hates being in a car seat and buggy..I think for the same reason. Hates gaviscon! Have been seeing an osteopath which helps but he is pretty exhausting to look after. For the last week he's been particularly hard work...managing about 1 hours sleep a few nights which is just mindnumbing really.
Anyway glad to hear there are others like me out there struggling with out windy kiddies.
Got a go appointment next week as osteopath suggested getting his lactase levels tested as this could be affecting his wind.
When I'm up most of the night patting his back and rubbing his tummy I'll be thinking of others like me doing the same!

twinplusbigsismum Fri 25-Jan-13 12:08:22

Hi all! Sorry Jo2007, haven't been on for ages! Will this nightly nightmare ever end?? Boys are on whole a lot better than they were, masive improvement. Worse affected seeing a specialist now at a different hospital. Last one waste of time. He is on movicol. Waiting for other 2 to see same specialist! Still tinkering with diet! I have come to the conclusion that sugar and anything containing this or sweeteners is a big no no, even sweet fruits I believe to be a problem. I find berries best! Hope this may help someone. Off all milks too now! Soon there will be nothing left to eat! My daughter, age 5 is the main problem of late. Trying to get her to sleep nightly is a nightmare. She tends to end up in our bed one way or another. Interesting, Jo, you mention digestaids, I had her off them, as was working with a homeopath, but no real joy and can't afford to keep throwing away fortunes, but am going to put her back on. Daughter doesn't get enough sleep and I believe her education is suffering already and her behaviour at times is testing. She is a different child when her tummy is not right! Mornings are Hell! x

Jo2007 Mon 28-Jan-13 16:32:49

Hello, Twinsplusbigsismum - I have sent a message to your inbox on here.
Just to let others know that there are elemental milks available, such as Neocate which some children do well on and they are for hyper-allergenic children, with all the proteins broken down. Neocate didn't suit my DD but it may be fine for others.
All the best once again.

DantesMummy Wed 06-Feb-13 10:18:06

Hi all!!
I am also new to mumsnet and like the rest of you am looking for advice, solutions, support!!! Mainly a solution though - which -from reading what ive read is no easy quest!!
I don't have too much time to write or read everything so I am slowly working my way through but felt it important to keep this thread going as there really is no help for this type of problem in older babies and toddlers...doctors tend to think im an overprotective mother - when really my little boy is in writhing agony and has been used to this since he was born! Really upsets me as im sure you can all relate to!
I will be back with more details and I am seeing a chiropractor for some sacral work/cranial...we've established when I massage his head it either stimulate the trapped wind causing him pain and or he burps or pump/farts/trumps etc...so were starting there... its beginning to look like the cranial osteopathy is the way forward perhaps?

bobbins31 Wed 20-Feb-13 09:59:55

I'm so glad this thread is still going! It amazes me that so many babies have the same symptoms but the only answer is that they'll grow out of it.
My 18 month old has suffered with trapped wind since birth. Silent reflux...milk protein intolerance...constipation...food intolerances (not proven..just guess work..) and back and forth to the docs and hospital to be told she'll grow out of it. I'm literally exhausted. Not one night of sound sleep. My marriage is over. And I'm dreading ever finding another partner..as not only does she wake up crying every half hr I co sleep with her. Is there really NOTHING that babies can take for trapped wind? I've been told to up her movocol to 4 sachets a day but that seems to make it worse. Last night was a bad night, no sleep til 3am. Then up at 4, and 6. Anyone out there that can help?! Thanks in advance. Oh..and can't really afford cranial osteopathy. So if there's anything that the docs should be giving me but aren't I'd love the heads up!
Deb

Worc1361 Mon 04-Mar-13 10:37:19

Like everyone else, I am so glad to have found this post.

My son is now 13months old. Colic for the first 2 months and reflux of constant throwing up until 9 months old. He has never slept through the night properly. He cries 2-3 times every night in pain, then passes wind and then goes back to sleep.

I, too, have been dismissed by my GP saying that he is fine as he is happy and growing, and he will eventually grow out of his colic/reflux/bad wind....

During the day, he is a happy and active boy. Hence GP is not doing anything for it.

Have found that the wind problem at night is getting worse now that he is eating a whole range of food.

Going to see GP to see if she will refer me to cranial osteopathy and food allergy testing. Wish me luck! Keep posting!

twinplusbigsismum Mon 11-Mar-13 00:47:15

My gosh, I find it incredible that this problem is ruining lives and that the doctors/other professionals seem to have no clue! Our last visit to a specialist team and a recommended hospital was a waste of time and I ended up having a bit of a run in with their dietician, who virtually accused me of being the problem by cutting so many things from their diet. They only seem interested in challenging the diet, but provide no ideas to improve the problem you,ve gone there for, children who suffer and can't sleep properly due to wind! The blood tests taken for one of mine showed nothing, by the way. Don't bother putting your child through it, if you're thinking it might help!

Recently had a really rough week, interestingly my oven was broken, so instead of the usual roast meats that my lot eat like you wouldn't believe I was cooking bacon for breakfast on the hob. I think the salt messed them up majorly. As well as terrible nights they had rashes and sore bottoms. It's all guess work though!

Don't know what avenues left to explore in terms of trying to find a solution. Feel like I'm on my own with this one! Know I'm not the only one though!

Satine5 Wed 13-Mar-13 15:25:57

We are still suffering...although it is now a bit better and DD is 19 months. I have recently read somewhere, that excess fibre is not easily tolerated by some toddlers. I am not sure if this was mentioned earlier in the thread but i am going to give it a go (even though my DD hasn't got an upset tummy, just excessive gas) However, I often find undigested bits of food in her nappy (sorry for TMI). I think I found it on netmums:

''Toddler diarrhoea is the most common cause of persistent diarrhoea in young children. It mainly occurs at 1-4 years of age. It is not a serious problem and the child is usually well and their growth is good.

Children with this problem generally have 2 or more watery loose bowel motions (stools) per day. Sometimes it can be as many as 8-10 times per day. The stools tend to be more smelly and paler than usual. Bits of undigested vegetables (for example, sweetcorn, carrots etc) can often be seen in the stool. Mild stomach pain sometimes occurs, but it is unusual. However, parents can find the diarrhoea both a worry and an inconvenience which can lead to possible problems with potty training.
Toddler diarrhoea will usually resolve itself by 4-5 years of age.

What causes toddler diarrhoea?
The cause is not fully understood. The food we eat is broken down in the stomach and then absorbed in the small bowel (the first part of your bowel). The large bowel is responsible for absorbing excessive water and producing formed stools. In toddler diarrhoea there may be an imbalance of fluid, fibre and undigested sugars that reach the large bowel and excessive fluid is passed out in loose stools.

Toddler diarrhoea is not due to poor absorption of food and is not a serious bowel problem. Your child will usually still get all the nutrients they need from the food they eat, and continue to grow well.

What is the treatment for toddler diarrhoea?
Changing the types of foods your child eats usually helps. Foods which are high in fibre or sugar, and drinking plenty of fluid can lead to toddler diarrhoea. A low fat diet can also contribute to it.

Sugars
Refined sugars and sweeteners in a child’s diet include fizzy drinks, squashes, sweets and chocolate and table sugar added to foods (e.g. breakfast cereals) and can cause toddler diarrhoea. Even fruit juices, which are often seen as a healthier option, still contain natural sugar which can also cause a problem, especially pure apple juice due to the fermentation process of the apples.
It is best to only give your child water or milk to drink. If they currently will not drink water, gradually make their squash/juice more and more dilute until they are just taking water.

Fluid
Excessive drinking can also cause diarrhoea. Children need plenty of fluid (5-8 drinks a day) but some toddlers like to drink almost constantly! This is often more for comfort than because of thirst. It is a good idea to plan set times for drinks e.g. with snacks and at mealtimes and don’t offer drinks in-between. Use distraction methods if necessary. Children will drink enough to quench their thirst so don’t worry about dehydration.

This dietary advice sheet gives some general information to help you make the recommended changes to your child’s diet. If you need more detailed advice or if your child is following a special diet that makes it difficult for you to make these changes, please ask your doctor to refer your child to a registered dietitian.
Dietary Management of Toddler Diarrhoea Fibre Although we usually encourage a good fibre intake as part of a healthy diet, young children often cannot tolerate high fibre foods very well. Foods that often cause loose stools are high fibre breakfast cereals,
especially oat based foods e.g. Weetabix, porridge (compare fibre content of different cereals to find out which ones are higher or lower in fibre), flapjacks, certain fruit and vegetables such as grapes, raisins, peas, sweetcorn, baked beans (see food list on the following page for more details).
Fat Fat in the diet slows down the speed food moves through the gut and therefore giving your child a reasonably high fat diet may help. It has been found that especially giving a small amount of a high fat food at the end of a meal can help to reduce loose stools e.g. yogurt, ice-cream, full fat mousse and other dairy desserts, full fat milk or even a cube of cheese!

Food groups
Drinks:
limit: Fruit juices, fizzy drinks and squashes including sugar-free versions
include: Full fat cow’s milk, water

Fruit
limit: Grapes, raisins
include: all other fruit

Vegetables
limit: Peas, baked beans, other pulses, sweetcorn
include: all other veg

sugary foods
limit: Sweets and chocolate*, added table sugar to food/drinks

Cereals
limit: High fibre breakfast cereals e.g. Weetabix, Ready Brek, cereals with raisin/fruit, muesli , Wholemeal bread
include: Lower fibre cereal, e.g. Cornflakes, Rice Krispies White bread

Dairy foods
limit: Low fat versions of milk, yogurt, mousse, ice-cream etc
include: Full fat versions of milk, yogurt, mousse, ice-cream etc

All meats/fish/eggs/cheese
limit:
include: All meats/fish/eggs/cheese

Does my child always need to eat like this?
No, a lower fibre and higher fat diet is usually needed while your child is experiencing loose stools and they should grow out of toddler diarrhoea by 4 – 5 years. The recommended healthy diet for children of 5 years and over is to have plenty of fibre and not eat too much fat. What if these dietary changes do not help? If after one month of making these dietary changes in your child’s diet, your child is still having more than two bowel motions a day, please ask your GP or Health Visitor to refer your child to a Paediatrician or Paediatric Dietitian.''

Jo2007 Thu 21-Mar-13 13:54:47

We still all seem to be on that quest to be believed when what we need is more help and support. I have just been told by my child's consultant that whilst she does have intolerances to a number of foods, she is now extending that learned behaviour to other foods for attention! Is it me or is it just plain obvious that a 5 year old wanting to eat all foods and enjoying trying new foods would then wake herself up in the night to cry and say her tummy hurt, pass lots of wind, knowing that then she would not have that new food again. Yet I am the one made to feel wrong in all of this and now also being told that I am 'confused' about true reactions to foods.
I am so glad this thread exists as we can't all be wrong!
Keep posting everyone and maybe we should plan to all turn up together at a hospital one day so we don't have to keep suffering the stress of not being taken seriously.
All the best to all.

twinplusbigsismum Fri 22-Mar-13 00:22:25

Hi! With you Jo! I don't even feel that close family 'GET IT' and feel that everybody thinks that it is all somehow my fault that my children can't get to sleep or wake in the night and that all the wind issues I experience and witness are somehow made up. Every night is hell again here. Two of my three having problems every single night at the moment, if not all three. One of the twins, 23mths screams for hours before eventually sleeping and I can't think of anything at all that I have changed. So here we go again, cutting more things from the diet to see if change occurs. I'm currently trying to eliminate fruit juice, funny enough, re prev post, but they are hardly drinking anything now, which is a different worry, as they don't like water on it's own and can't take milks. HELP!

Jo2007 Sun 24-Mar-13 16:30:44

Hi there twinsplusbigsismum, don't know if it's worth a go but I find my DD is very bad with concentrated fruit juice but OK - well as ok as you're going to get - with small amounts (after breakfast and at 2 snack times) of pressed apple juice slightly diluted with water. After lunch and tea she has Lemon and Lime 'This Water' - half water and half the juice, again this is pressed not concentrate. I find that although she will drink water on its own she actually does better with this juice.
Hope your nights improve and yes, re family understanding this can be hurtful and adds to the problem, but people do just find the condition so unbelievable don't they.

twinplusbigsismum Mon 25-Mar-13 23:33:42

Hi Jo and anyone else following this thread! Put mine back onto their usual drink day after my last post, as I was too concerned the babies weren't drinking enough. I give a very small amount of Pomegreat juice diluted with water. Didn't really think this was the problem, but you clutch at straws often, when going through a tough patch! Had a few much better nights. Now trialing Metagenics Ultra Probioplex ND Powder (Non-dairy L. acidophilus NCFM and B.lactis Powder) Food supplement. Will let you know how it goes!

Tobasauras Sun 07-Apr-13 02:20:26

Wow so glad to find this page. I am reading from Australia and was crying as I read through these posts.
I have found real improvement with a couple of products so I thought I would join in and will try to give a brief history of the past 14 months.
Basically we have had problems from birth, she couldn't sleep lying flat and we held her or put her to sleep sitting upright in a rocker until she was 11 weeks old and diagnosed with reflux. Started losec and she could finally sleep in her bed. She then suffered diarrhoea that lasted a month and required feeding every hour (cause of diarrhoea was never determined) and eventually needed formula top ups as I could not supply enough breast milk to keep up with the demand. She also started solids at 16 weeks as her weight was now in the bottom 3% for her age. We had a great 3 months after starting her on a probiotic (inner health plus for kids) and she slept 12hrs solid every night plus 3-4 good days sleeps.
Around 7-8 months it all changed again when her formula brand changed recipes and made her vomit so we switched brands and she started waking in discomfort every night and her days sleeps just about disappeared altogether. By 10 months she was luckily to get 45 mins sleep at night before waking in such discomfort that she would take several hours to resettle. By then we had tried every formula on the market but nothing made any difference. She was now up to 2 formula bottles a day and 2 breast feeds. I tried to go back to just breast milk but she wouldn't take it. Finally she was diagnosed as severely constipated and put on Lactulose which helped but it wasn't until we doubled her losec dose that she finally settled back into a decent routine of 2 day sleeps and 2-3 wake ups at night but she was quickly settled with Colic Calm which is a charcoal based gripe water that seems to settle her gurgling belly.
Around a month ago I ran out of probiotics and decided not to buy anymore as she now has yogurt so I figure she didn't need both but within a week of stopping the probiotics we were back to her screaming in agony all night long so I whisked her straight back to the paediatrician who said she was severly constipated again with poo all the way to her colon. This surprised me as she was pooping 2-3 times everyday but another couple of weeks on Lactulose has cleared her out but she is now suffering terribly from gurgling in her belly and still waking up several times a night and only sleeping if she is sitting upright with her knees bent. Our paed recommended keeping her on Lactulose indefinitely but after reading on here that it causes wind and bloating I have cut her down to just one small morning dose instead of both morning and night and we have already seen some improvements in her sleep again its still not great. Last night took 3hrs to get her to sleep and her gurgling stomach was so loud we could hear it over the tv. Finally took her to the emergency room just to get someone to listen but after 2 doses of colic calm it settled shortly after we arrived at emergency and decided not go wait several hours to see a dr.
I have tried eliminating dairy but she would not take a lactose free or soy formula so I cut out cheese and yogurt but she still had formula. She has just been tested for celiac and the results are not clear. Most likely negative but she has some abnormalities in the results that suggest she might be celiac but I don't think either dairy or glutin are the cause as we have had good periods when she has been consuming both.
My only 2 remedies that seem to consistently work are the probiotics which I found works best in the morning as it seems to get her to fart all day and sleep better at night. And colic calm which we get out of America (www.coliccalm.com). Cost about $25 for a tiny bottle but it has really worked for us and is an all natural product. Otherwise I cook all her food, she doesn't have sugar except in yogurt but no lollies, cakes etc, nothing processed, nothing deep fried, she drink water or formula, she has cows milk on cereal and very occasionally diluted fruit juice, she eats lots of fruit, loves meat, veggies are a bit of a struggle but I manage to get a decent amount into her. I haven't been able to find any pattern as to what causes a good night or bad night except thst bread seems to constipate her. She has 2 formula bottles a day now both after her day sleeps and no breast milk anymore. Like everyone else on here we can't get a dr to even acknowledge a problem beyond the constipation because she is always worse at night and just get told babies are fussy, babies want attention, babies are hard work blah blah blah. She is a very placid baby who self settles, loves to sleep when she can and is happy playing on her own so I don't believe this is behavioural for one second. Apologies for the novel, I could keep going but will leave it at that.

GirlOutNumbered Fri 19-Apr-13 13:49:26

Hello
Just wanted to put a bit about what I have found that finally worked for us.
DS2 has big problems at night with wind, he has a cows milk allergy but it was just getting worse and worse since weaning. It felt like he was intolerant to everything, waking every two hours and moaning all night. Only pooing once every week.

So, yesterday I only gave him one type of veg which ws sweet potatoe, I gave him warm boiled water after both meals, loads of tummy time, tummy massage before bed and a bit of infacol. Last night he slept 7-5, woke for a feed and slept til 7. He did two poos yesterday and one just now!

I am doing the same today, but he is having carrots. I am going to reintroduce foods one at a time so I an monitor what's happening.

I really appreciate some of you are facing much bigger issues,but I just wanted to jot down what had worked (so far) for us.

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