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to ask people why they don't want to be my friend?

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I know this has been done to death on here, but I have no friends. There are people I talk to at the school gates from time to time, everyone knows who I am, but they all have their own circles of friends and I am just not a part of that and don't seem to be able to become a part of that.

And thing is, I don't know why. I have never fallen out with anyone, people do talk to me, they just won't cross the boundary between chatting at the school gates and moving on to more meaningful friendship, i.e. coffee, or coming round in any way shape or form. I have been there for some of them on occasion, they've chatted to me about their personal lives, some have confided about their marriages, but as soon as I extend myself and try to say, invite them round, they back off completely and will sometimes avoid me altogether. And it's not because they have such busy social lives, they are constantly round each other's houses for impromptu bbq's/drinks etc, in fact I've been standing amongst them as they plan their evenings out together, to which I am not invited.

So given they clearly don't consider me too be a friend, I've thought about asking them what is so terrible about me that it puts them off, so I would at least know, and can then change so I don't put people off in future.

IBU? Or would that seem ve childish?

I just don't know what to do really. I don't think I'm a bad person, but I've always struggled so much to make friends that there has to come a point when you admit that it can't just be that all the people I meet are horrible, that there must be something about me that puts people off. sad I just don't know what it is, and no-one has ever told me.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Mon 06-Jul-09 13:31:06
I think meeting others at the school gate should just be left to 'hi, nice weather today' type of chat. I personally think if your life is already fulfilled with a good mix of friends, what's the point of making your already full calendar even fuller at trying to make more friends who really won't have much more in common than they also have kids like yourself.

getting a hobby is the way forward I think, rather than focusing in on others with kids.
walk further!
'Cos you'd run out of people otherwise?? grin
Why stop at 28 days?! grin
Two thoughts:

Boden's response made me wonder if blokes ever have this kind of angst. I imagine not.

Tattifer put me in mind of the Feng Shui dictum that you should greet a new person every day for 28 days without asking for anything or complaining. That is supposed to find you friends and/or improve your luck, I think.
invited, even blush
Agree with everyone who's said don't ask - it exposes your vulnerability and that generally scares people. Also, if you have to ask you also have to kind of accept they're just not that into you - as it were!

I talk to all kinds of people in all kinds of situations during the average day - work, lady at the checkout, person out walking dog etc but the school gates is a place I decided I was never going to excel at. The few that are my kind of people talk to me and I to them, because they're my kind of people. Don't get me wrong I tend to judge people on they're honesty and down to earthness, not income etc. Enterainment value for school yard conversation or I tend not to bother!

I have a small handful of excellent friends, a few others whom I'd like to get to know better and street loads of people who I will happily chat to but who will never be invitined homegrin
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sun 05-Jul-09 20:49:42
Dandy - thanks for explaining that point - not sure I entirely agree - as MN is huge by comparison to the school gates - and I think if you are one of life's non-conformists, the more people you "meet" the better chance you have of finding a connection.
Assuming you don't work at the moment, will you be doing so any time soon?

I found it really hard when we moved when DDs were 6 and 4. Lots of "cliques" were already established and the members just didn't want to know, but there was also a tendency for people to snap you up as new blood, socialise with you for a while then move on to the next person.

I now have a core group of friends who I feel like I'll have forever.

Working has helped a lot - they're all men and it's made me realise quite how difficult and judgmental women in groups can be (a generalisation, I know, but my experience).

I'd repeat the earlier advice to get involved in something non school related. Do something that interests you and you'll have a head-start of something in common.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sun 05-Jul-09 20:42:39
Jeez, I need to start editing before posting.

Should be " you can be my friend." (providing you don't judge my awful typing...)

And just realised that Total Chaos, you didn't actually say whether your (originally) online friends were through MN or other sites, I just assumed it was MN so sorry if I was wrong. But anyway, lots of people have made RL friends through MN.
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