To think boys should be able to do Brownies?

(560 Posts)
PrinceCharming7 Fri 15-Jul-16 20:14:14

I'm a bit confused why they don't? Girls are allowed to do Scouts/Cubs/Beavers, so why can't boys do brownies?

Junosmum Fri 15-Jul-16 20:16:06

Can't they? Or do they just not?

PrinceCharming7 Fri 15-Jul-16 20:16:34

They're not allowed sad I think it would suit DS more

LordEmsworth Fri 15-Jul-16 20:17:18

Because Guides and Scouts are different organisations. Scouts decided to start taking girls, Guides didn't decide to start taking boys.

Mov1ngOn Fri 15-Jul-16 20:18:45

Scouts only opened up to girls as they had fallen numbers.

They're separate organisations so I see no reason why a girls only organisation should admit boys. (Half wondering what happens if a boy identifies as a girl..)

Emochild Fri 15-Jul-16 20:19:20

Why do people always lump scouts and guides together?

Different organisations

Different rules

LilacSpunkMonkey Fri 15-Jul-16 20:19:52

No. Brownies is for girls. I agree 100% that it should just be for girls.

Girls should be allowed to have some things that are boy-free and Brownies is one of them.

Euphemia Fri 15-Jul-16 20:20:12

Girlguiding UK wants there to be a place just for girls.

Emochild Fri 15-Jul-16 20:20:38

mov

If a boy identifies as a girl, they will be allowed to join guides

NE14T Fri 15-Jul-16 20:20:49

I think it's wonderful that girls ate able to have a girls only club like rainbows/ brownies to go to. There's a lot of emphasis put on good body image/ physical health and it's a safe space for lots of girls as well as being lots of fun!

That's not to say that I don't think boys should have an equivalent male only space... Perhaps they should but the scout organisation decided that wasn't right for them.

myownprivateidaho Fri 15-Jul-16 20:21:01

I don't know if this is the reason, but I think some girls benefit a lot from an all-female space. It would be a shame to take that away. I didn't know Scouts etc were mixed, but can you try to find a troupe with a high proportion of girls if that's the factor? Otherwise I'd imagine they're doing more or less the same thing.

rascalchops1 Fri 15-Jul-16 20:21:07

It's sexist. I think they should be separate. There is nothing wrong with boys only being with boys and doing boys stuff.

Floggingmolly Fri 15-Jul-16 20:21:49

Why do you imagine Brownies would suit your son better? That's kind of odd

ChocChocPorridge Fri 15-Jul-16 20:22:12

YABU - GirlGuiding is for girls and women, study after study shows that the moment there are mixed groups, the males dominate. Girls need a place where that doesn't happen, and Guiding is strongly of the opinion that they are that place.

AuditAngel Fri 15-Jul-16 20:22:47

Both were set up by Baden-Powell siblings. The scouts was first, then, after some girls gate crashed a scouts event, Agnes Baden -Powell started the guides.

NE14T Fri 15-Jul-16 20:23:09

That's fine rascal feel free to set one up!

PrinceCharming7 Fri 15-Jul-16 20:23:28

Because he prefers all the crafts, etc. Which I have been told is what they do

Ifailed Fri 15-Jul-16 20:23:29

if we lived in a completely equal society I'd agree with you, but we don't.

cheminotte Fri 15-Jul-16 20:25:01

Girls should be able to have some boy-free space to just be themselves.

ChocChocPorridge Fri 15-Jul-16 20:25:40

I think it probably depends on the brownie pack - we probably did more outdoor stuff than craft (plus being taught to wire a plug - I imagine they don't teach kids that now)

Blueberry234 Fri 15-Jul-16 20:26:21

I'm just irritated that beavers places around here are like gold dust name went down at 1 and unlikely to get a space yet and yet if he could join rainbows he could start next week

Gothgirl78 Fri 15-Jul-16 20:26:25

I agree, It's sexist.

Euphemia Fri 15-Jul-16 20:26:32

I found this quite from a spokesperson for Girlguiding UK:

'Our young members, whom we frequently consult, have repeatedly told us enjoying a safe girl-only space is one of the things they value most about their guiding experience.

'Throughout our 100 years we have always maintained this safe girl-only space for our members.

'We strongly believe that in today's world there remains a vital role for such a space, where girls can be themselves during a formative time in their lives without the pressures of having boys around.'

Ivorbig1 Fri 15-Jul-16 20:27:14

Also in addition to choc....
The brownie leader I know told me that .,.Some families only allow their daughters to attend brownies "because" no boys are allowed. If that changed girls would have no where to go.
I'm not sure if I think Yabu, I'd have to think about that one.

LilacSpunkMonkey Fri 15-Jul-16 20:27:49

My daughter did circus skills, star gazing, environmental care, the odd bit of craft.

Rather than trying to push your son into an all girls group, you could offer to volunteer and run some crafts at your local Scouts group, OP.

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