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To think boys should be able to do Brownies?

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PrinceCharming7 · 15/07/2016 20:14

I'm a bit confused why they don't? Girls are allowed to do Scouts/Cubs/Beavers, so why can't boys do brownies?

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Junosmum · 15/07/2016 20:16

Can't they? Or do they just not?

PrinceCharming7 · 15/07/2016 20:16

They're not allowed Sad I think it would suit DS more

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LordEmsworth · 15/07/2016 20:17

Because Guides and Scouts are different organisations. Scouts decided to start taking girls, Guides didn't decide to start taking boys.

Mov1ngOn · 15/07/2016 20:18

Scouts only opened up to girls as they had fallen numbers.

They're separate organisations so I see no reason why a girls only organisation should admit boys. (Half wondering what happens if a boy identifies as a girl..)

Emochild · 15/07/2016 20:19

Why do people always lump scouts and guides together?

Different organisations

Different rules

LilacSpunkMonkey · 15/07/2016 20:19

No. Brownies is for girls. I agree 100% that it should just be for girls.

Girls should be allowed to have some things that are boy-free and Brownies is one of them.

LindyHemming · 15/07/2016 20:20

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Emochild · 15/07/2016 20:20

mov

If a boy identifies as a girl, they will be allowed to join guides

NE14T · 15/07/2016 20:20

I think it's wonderful that girls ate able to have a girls only club like rainbows/ brownies to go to. There's a lot of emphasis put on good body image/ physical health and it's a safe space for lots of girls as well as being lots of fun!

That's not to say that I don't think boys should have an equivalent male only space... Perhaps they should but the scout organisation decided that wasn't right for them.

myownprivateidaho · 15/07/2016 20:21

I don't know if this is the reason, but I think some girls benefit a lot from an all-female space. It would be a shame to take that away. I didn't know Scouts etc were mixed, but can you try to find a troupe with a high proportion of girls if that's the factor? Otherwise I'd imagine they're doing more or less the same thing.

rascalchops1 · 15/07/2016 20:21

It's sexist. I think they should be separate. There is nothing wrong with boys only being with boys and doing boys stuff.

Floggingmolly · 15/07/2016 20:21

Why do you imagine Brownies would suit your son better? That's kind of odd

ChocChocPorridge · 15/07/2016 20:22

YABU - GirlGuiding is for girls and women, study after study shows that the moment there are mixed groups, the males dominate. Girls need a place where that doesn't happen, and Guiding is strongly of the opinion that they are that place.

AuditAngel · 15/07/2016 20:22

Both were set up by Baden-Powell siblings. The scouts was first, then, after some girls gate crashed a scouts event, Agnes Baden -Powell started the guides.

NE14T · 15/07/2016 20:23

That's fine rascal feel free to set one up!

PrinceCharming7 · 15/07/2016 20:23

Because he prefers all the crafts, etc. Which I have been told is what they do

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Ifailed · 15/07/2016 20:23

if we lived in a completely equal society I'd agree with you, but we don't.

cheminotte · 15/07/2016 20:25

Girls should be able to have some boy-free space to just be themselves.

ChocChocPorridge · 15/07/2016 20:25

I think it probably depends on the brownie pack - we probably did more outdoor stuff than craft (plus being taught to wire a plug - I imagine they don't teach kids that now)

Blueberry234 · 15/07/2016 20:26

I'm just irritated that beavers places around here are like gold dust name went down at 1 and unlikely to get a space yet and yet if he could join rainbows he could start next week

Gothgirl78 · 15/07/2016 20:26

I agree, It's sexist.

LindyHemming · 15/07/2016 20:26

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Ivorbig1 · 15/07/2016 20:27

Also in addition to choc....
The brownie leader I know told me that .,.Some families only allow their daughters to attend brownies "because" no boys are allowed. If that changed girls would have no where to go.
I'm not sure if I think Yabu, I'd have to think about that one.

LilacSpunkMonkey · 15/07/2016 20:27

My daughter did circus skills, star gazing, environmental care, the odd bit of craft.

Rather than trying to push your son into an all girls group, you could offer to volunteer and run some crafts at your local Scouts group, OP.

Auti · 15/07/2016 20:30

YABU

Brownies for girls!
Brownie places are like golddust round here ;)

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