to be shocked that less than half of people in London are white

(412 Posts)
Ilovecoffeeandchocolate Tue 11-Dec-12 18:11:13

I was reading the article below and was shocked to see how much this country especially London has changed over the last ten years and feel concerned that immigration is too high for what is an already overcrowded island especially in the south east!

www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/dec/11/census-2011-religion-race-education?intcmp=239

Just because someone isn't white doesn't mean they aren't British, you know? A lot of black people will have been born here, a lot of them will be as cockney as white cockneys.

I really don't see your point.

valiumredhead Tue 11-Dec-12 18:13:48

I was listening to this on the radio earlier.

BalthierBunansa Tue 11-Dec-12 18:14:18

A lot of POC in London are 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants, therefore British born.

Roseformeplease Tue 11-Dec-12 18:14:18

And it is fewer, not less. Racist and doesn't have good ENGLISH grammar!

StuntGirl Tue 11-Dec-12 18:15:44

It also states that 86% of people are white. Hardly a minority is it?

Not all british people are white...

Also the news said this was on par with most of Europe. We can travel and settle at whim to most places in the world so everywhere is getting more
Diverse now and thats not a bad thing in my opinion.

TandB Tue 11-Dec-12 18:17:29

I'm not shocked. We are a multi-cultural society and, as such, our ethnic make-up is constantly changing.

I am, however, a little surprised. I wouldn't have thought we were anywhere near caucasion being the minority ethnic group. I actually thought I had read that the proportion of black/asian people in London was actually surprisingly low. Maybe it was the countrywide statistics I am thinking of - I remember thinking "Really? That low?"

PeoniesPlease Tue 11-Dec-12 18:17:36

Oh, ffs. What everyone else said. You can be British without being white, you can be white without being British, blah blah blah.

What I'd like to be told is why there is an unwritten rule in some people's minds that you must stay in the country you are born in?

TandB Tue 11-Dec-12 18:18:39

Oh. 86%.

Yes, OP. If you think that 86% is less than half then I can see how you would be shocked. You do know that there are one hundred percents, not two hundred, don't you?

DystopianReality Tue 11-Dec-12 18:18:46

My BIL is 2nd generation Sri Lankan. He went to cambridge and contributes to British society is a way that many, many 'white British' people don't.
Does that 'shock' you?
I am proud of our multi-cultural society and live and work amongst it.
I, too am struggling to see your point.

SantaWearsGreen Tue 11-Dec-12 18:19:02

I don't really see a problem with any of it.. 85% are white British in overall UK population.

Stuffingballs Tue 11-Dec-12 18:19:16

Do you only have a problem with non-white immigrants? OP

Goodness me there are some people with twatty, ill thought out opinions on here today.

HECTheHallsWithRowsAndFolly Tue 11-Dec-12 18:19:49

On a related note - Can't link to it because I can't find it but I read this morning that mixed race couples are more accepted now than ever. I was shocked to read that only in 1987 50% of the population of this country were opposed to people marrying outside their ethnicity.

It went down to 40% in the 90s. The 19 90s and it's still at 40%!

Now it's apparently 15%.

I had no idea it was that high. 50% is something I would have expected to see in the 40s, not the 80s

laptopdancer Tue 11-Dec-12 18:19:59

I will be in London next week.

I am white.

Oops. I am an immigrant shock

StuntGirl Tue 11-Dec-12 18:20:31

I'm dying to leave England baubles. I hope other nations don't hold the same viewpoint!

BalthierBunansa Tue 11-Dec-12 18:21:26

Also OP, there is a lot more mixed race children being born, who also count as 'non white' and British

TandB Tue 11-Dec-12 18:21:41

Stuffing - but non-white immigrants are different , don't you know?

My late gran got quite racist in her old age. When I pointed out that she was the daughter of an immigrant, she always claimed that was entirely different. When I pushed her on it one day, she admitted that it was because he was eastern european and white, and therefore not a real immigrant.

msrisotto Tue 11-Dec-12 18:21:44

My black Jamaican born colleague was saying how bad it was that whites could be a minority in a traditionally white country. I guess things change and that's not necessarily a bad thing!

"You do know that there are one hundred percents, not two hundred, don't you?"

She probs learned that off Jeremy Kyle, where people are always "200% POSITIVE" about things.

StuntGirl Tue 11-Dec-12 18:23:30

The 86% was for the whole of England and Wales, the figure for London is 45% white.

Skiffen Tue 11-Dec-12 18:23:33

I'm far more bothered that my children are growing up in an area where less than 2% of the population are anything other than white British - I miss the cultures and diversity of a more mixed area.

My first thought on reading your op was, "you don't have to be white to be British," and my second is that the ethnic make up of an area does not in any way indicate immigration levels are too high - sheer numbers of people may indicate overpopulation but there ethnic origin and skin tone has naff all to do with it.

Your post comes across as racist - if you didn't mean to be so rude you may wish to rethink it.

rainbowinthesky Tue 11-Dec-12 18:23:44

There are vast amounts of white immigrants living in London. What on eart is your point? It's clearly just a colour of skin issue for you.

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