"Corbyn is clueless about the working class" Janice Turner in The Times today.

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I found this article powerful and quite moving. Summed up a lot of what I instinctively felt about Labour but wasn't clever enough to express. Thanks Janice. I'm not sure how to share...

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Hi Trewser that article is behind a paywall.

Unfortunately can't read it as I'd have to pay

So sorry. I know there's a way to share but I don't know how to do it

The times is owned by Rupert Murdock it will be biased.
Unless you're that way inclined (Tory) I wouldn't bother

It's a great article and some of PPs' responses sum up Labour's problem.

"I want something for free"

"I disagree with someone so I'll ignore them"

Yep, that's why you lost.

Yes history only read what we tell you to read. Do you never learn.

"I want something for free"

😂😂😂 Certainly don't vote Labour and no I won't pay to read an article about any political party or other subject for that matter!

I've taken her advice and re joined

Whereas Bozo is a guru of first-hand knowledge. At least Labour (who I did not personally vote for) had some policies aimed at benefiting the 'working class'.

Thanks Trewster..I'd like to read this, maybe somebody has a share token. If not, I'll drag my arse up to the newsagent.

Janice and the Times are doing a fantastic job higlighting the risks to women of self ID - something Corbyn and Abbot were happily endorsing this week without a thought for the working class women who could be forced to share their intimate spaces with men.

Mind, in fairness, all parties have a terrible record for this.

I have a subscription. Does anyone know how you get a share token?

I thought it was spot on, and really quite moving about the ordinary working class who felt forgotten by Labour.

The UK exists beyond London. Most political parties forget this, and Labour is as guilty as anyone of this.

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/corbyn-is-clueless-about-the-working-class-683k78n7z?shareToken=92d74c8c12fbf358b4fff52cd3989286

Thanks Lemon

Thank you @LemonRedwood !

Here you go.
(Editorial independence was a condition of the sale of the times/Sunday Times to Murdoch, fwiw, it carries a range of opinions. )

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/corbyn-is-clueless-about-the-working-class-683k78n7z?shareToken=a902a2ddb8ab08cec271f0186ea1ef05

@Trewser , I use the app, there's an icon in the bottom right with options for sharing including Copy

Thank you Errol!

Thanks for higlighting this Trewster
Another astute piece by Janice.
Especially happy that Owen and Ash were cited too.

God owen and ash are just awful beyond words.

I wasn’t expecting to agree with the article but to my surprise I find she has it spot on.

How would she know? Anyway, Times journalists think the working class don't exist.

Absolutely agree with what she is saying here. Shocking at the number of predominantly working class areas where the Tories not only retained seats but have taken previous Labour strongholds, and for this to happen in the current economic situation even more shocking. Labour really does need to consider what and who it stands for.

How would she know? Anyway, Times journalists think the working class don't exist.
Janice Turner was born in Wakefield and brought up in a working class family in Doncaster. Guardian journalists and their momentum mates think the working class are all scrubbing around in the last remaining coal mine while walking their whippets to the Working men's club. Wonder if Owen Jones will be calling out Lily Allen and John Hannah for calling the white working class thick, racist misogynists for voting Tory on Thursday? I won't hold my breath on that one.

Great article. Janice is spot on as ever.