Cat weeing anywhere

[icelollycraving]

We have a Persian boy ball of fluff. He will be two in April. He has started to wee anywhere (as well as in his trays). Not spraying up but squatting & weeing. Generally not really in the day but from about 7pm. All vaccinations up to date,kidneys fine,weight fine. He eats the Royal canin Persian food. He is going in to be neutered this week.
I am really hoping this will resolve it,has anyone got any other advice?
We clean the areas with simple solution stuff to neutralise the area.
He's such a sweet natured pussycat & ds really loves him but the permanent weeing is getting me down.

[Aphie]

Does he do it in one spot more than others? If so I'd put a tray over that area and slowly move it to somewhere better. Is he an indoor or outdoor cat?

[icelollycraving]

He's an indoor cat. The vet said to put food where he's weeing to deter him but I can't have twenty dishes out! There are a few favourite areas but actually there is not one room now that he doesn't wee in. This morning he miaowed to come in to my bedroom (usual) & walked straight into the ensuite & did a wee. He has weed in the bath,on tiles,on carpet,on toys etc. I'm a clean freak & it is making me really anxious. I've tried felliway too.

[Aphie]

Maybe once he's been neutered have any carpets cleaned with pet odour remover so that he can't smell where he's been. I had this problem with my young girl, combination of shutting doors to rooms I didn't want her weeing in and putting food and trays down all over the place. I had one in every room at one point. Does he wee in the room where he is fed? If not maybe just a small bowl in each room could deter him.

[icelollycraving]

He gets fed in the kitchen. He has weed there too. Not right near the bowls but in there nonetheless.
We do close the doors to rooms to prevent him going in if we aren't with him.

[Aphie]

You could try moving the bowels to over the spot in the kitchen where he has done a wee. Rehashing what you've already been told I know, someone may come and tell me I'm wrong for this but maybe rub a citrus peel over the area to deter him.

[cozietoesie]

That's a pretty late neuter - to all intents and purposes, you have an unneutered tomcat there. I'd clean the place to within an inch of its life and wait to see what happens after the op. ( Be warned, it may take a week or two for the hormones to die down post-op.)

[icelollycraving]

We were thinking of him being a stud but not going to do that. I've always had cats,some outdoors,one indoor but not had this issue before.
We had asked advice from the breeder but he'd said it was most likely stress. I don't know about the cat being stressed but I know I am!

[cozietoesie]

I'm sure you are!

The 7pm thing is a little revealing to me. It almost sounds as if his blood is singing to him and telling him he should be outside on the razzle. I suspect he needs his mind taken off 'other things' so when he returns from the vet - and is OK ie not absolutely immediately - I think I'd try him with some games/activities to distract him for a bit.

[icelollycraving]

I did say to my husband that he's the cat equivalent of a frisky man in his prime

[cozietoesie]

[Wolpertinger]

Neutering. Pet odour remover. Masses of litter trays - at least number of cats + 1.

If neutering at abolishing smell with odour remover doesn't stop him then you have to turn cat detective. I can't rate Vicky Halls' books highly enough - discovered our rogue cat thought textile underfoot = place to wee, possibly due to having been ably to wee on towels as a baby. All rugs, washing etc were picked up off the floor but finally put a stop to it when I eventually caught her in the act, not two seconds too late, and told her off. Never did it again.

[icelollycraving]

Thank you. I thought I'd get a bollocking for neutering late.
We see him doing it & stop him,place him in tray whenever possible.

[Whoknewitcouldbeso]

Yep, I think this is a classic case of neutering late and being a pure breed. I think all you can do is get his furry plums chopped off and hope this does the trick.

When we had a cat that weed in the house we ended up ripping up the carpet and replacing with Lino as the carpet just got totally ruined. Is there anyway you could go for a solid floor downstairs and have carpet upstairs but stop him going up there by using a stairgate?

[icelollycraving]

We have tiles in hall,loos,bathrooms & kitchen. Carpet everywhere else. Tried a stairgate,he jumped onto it & over!

[cozietoesie]

Later this week for his op you said?

[icelollycraving]

Yes on Friday.

[cozietoesie]

I'd be guessing that he's a confused cat right now. He's used to being indoors but has 'urges' which are telling him he should be out on the prowl with the wind blowing in his hair etc etc etc.

You're very lucky indeed that he hasn't been spraying, I think. If he were a Siamese - which is the breed I know best - there's no way you'd have been able to keep him inside I reckon.

Do you ever see him sort of pacing around, seemingly aimlessly?

[icelollycraving]

He is very calm & placid in the day. In the evening the really loud squawky miaowing happens with the weeing. It is driving me demented. Hopefully having the chop will do the trick.
He never poos anywhere but his trays. He's really very sweet natured.

[cozietoesie]

Out of interest, do you have any cats who might come into your garden of an evening? (I'm wondering if you might have the odd tom outside who is making him extra edgy.)

[icelollycraving]

No. We always close the curtains & I've not seen any other cats at all in the vicinity.

[cozietoesie]

Ah well - it's entirely possible that he's just conflicted then. (One half of him used to Love, Mummy, Warm and the other half feeling 'Get outside and Git Some!') I can see that he might pee with fair abandon in those circumstances.

See how Friday goes - plus a few days (to allow hormones to die down as he's such a late neuter.) It might be a good idea to start on the distractive game-playing in a gentle way as soon as he's physically up to scratch again after the op. Does he have any toys at the moment?

[icelollycraving]

Yes,he has toys & a scratch post.
He likes me grooming him when it's very quiet & dh & ds are in bed.

[cozietoesie]

Try some more active-involvement games when he's back to himself post op would be my thought.

[icelollycraving]

Thank you. What kind of thing? We have balls,toys,fluffy things on sticks etc. Is there anything that is great?

[cozietoesie]

You know him best. Whatever seems to appeal I think.