Daisy Goodwin, I know you will be reading MN this morning, so go away now and go watch this instead.

[kiskidee]

caring for babies caring for parents

[Poohbah]

Or enrol on a child protection course, where you might begin to realise the damage and harm that you are doing, you pathetic media fuckwit person

[Twiglett]

who the farkin hell is Daisy Goodwin?

[BettyBatShapedSpaghetti]

I thought she was a writer/poet and the woman who does the poetry programmes (Britains Most Loved Poems or something like that)

Whats her connection with this?

[SqueakyBroomstickBrushes]

yes, who is she?

[moodlumtheWOOOHOOHOOhoodlum]

Is it the same Daisy Goodwin who's "perfect weekend" was in yesterday's Telegraph?

[slayerette]

She's the producer of Bringing Up Baby and has an article in The Times this morning defending her programme against those who say that to show a childcare routine that allegedly promotes completely ignoring your newborn's needs is irresponsible. She quotes MN in it, but only quotes someone who posted in favour of a routine for a baby Can't think why she might have chosen that post over the thousands that loathe and despise her programme...

[pagwatch]

She is the producer of Bringing up baby with claire verity. She writes a piece in the times this am defending the prog and quoting mumsnet opponents.

[BettyBatShapedSpaghetti]

Just found this article -about to go and read it but it seems Daisy Goodwin is responsible for the Bringing Up Baby prog.

[slayerette]

Note the 'allegedly' there, btw, all those child-care-guru-lawyers who read MN with avid interest.

[AitchyBabesHugz2AllUHunnis]

she's interiors queen jocasta innes' daughter, tv producer and sometime presenter,she's a partner in Silver River Productions and the woman who's been bleating on about how Claire Verity is nice really and everyone who thinks that she isn't is a hysteric.

she's had a tough time, her own mum left her when she was five and she wrote a fairly touching book about it. i find it hard to separate the two things, tbh.

i've lost a HUGE amount of respect for her since all this. she has a child of her own, the very least she could have done was include the govt guidelines in her programme.

and that's without even getting into the fact that when she saw Claire Verity crowing about 'who's boss' while two tiny babies screamed their hearts out alone and separated in two enormous cots, she no doubt grinned and thought 'great footage'.

[BettyBatShapedSpaghetti]

maybe she should stick to her poetry programmes

[slayerette]

Ooh, no, just reread the article and the Mnetter quoted hates the programme! How could I have doubted us??

So which parenting forum does the supporter come from??

[fishie]

oh look she's got a book to promote. that should be a fun read.

[Marina]

Her piece in the Daily Telegraph yesterday about her perfect weekend was fairly dire - so she thinks CV is a Good Thing I deduce?

[moodlumtheWOOOHOOHOOhoodlum]

If it was her in the Telegraph (and indeed if I were her its not a claim to fame I would be articulating anywhere) she does have children, which I think is surprising, because you would think a mother would know better?

If it wasn't her in the Telegraph, apologies and allegedlys all round obviously.

[Marina]

It is her moodlum. "oh no, I spent so much on my trip to the farm shop near my bijou weekend retreat that the cashier remarked on it. Did I mention it was over £200?"
Do these feature writers have the faintest idea that the world they appear to inhabit bears no relevance whatsoever to how most of this nation live?
I could not possibly take anything Daisy Goodwin thinks about any subject after reading that smug, boastful, self-congratulatory article "and then our dear friends Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall and his wife would drop round". You don't have any credibility in my world Daisy. So I would not have expected you to be capable of having a rounded perspective on childcare. You inhabit a little bubble full of other people with weekend homes and maternity nurses.

[moodlumtheWOOOHOOHOOhoodlum]

I know I know. What sort of person says that? I'm always suspicious of people who feel they have to drop their famous friends names into conversation and that remark about the cashier clinched my dislike of her.

[ruty]

very disappointed and will not bother to watch any of her programmes again. She can quote me.

[ruty]

LOL Marina. how true.

[Tamum]

Link to another current thread discussing her. Marina, I can't remember when I last saw you so riled but completely and utterly agree

[kiskidee]

see the article in today's sunday times which morgansaunt linked earlier this morning on this kinda old thread. and my not so kind comments regarding it

[WideWebWitch]

I think working in tv can make people who start out as reasonably nice people into really quite vile people.

My sister is a tv producer/director (of a much more serious and highbrow type than Daisy Goodwin, not that that would be hard) and at the start of her career she made some programmes where sensational footage was a good thing. I think she would agree now that saying "oh it was FAB because then she hit the old lady" wasn't her finest hour. She was filming undercover at an old peoples home so it was good footage. I'm NOT suggesting that my sister is a horrible person, far from it, just that if you are making that type of programe you need conflict and drama and you won't necessarily care at whose expense you get it.

But it doesn't matter, Daisy Goodwin is trying to defend the indefensible and as the mother of a child she should know better. It does sound as if her view of parenting has been skewed by her own awful abandonment though.

She's Jocasta Innes daughter? I didn't know that. Did she write The Pauper's Cookbook or am I imagining that?

Off to read the links now.

[shreddies]

WWW yes, Jocasta Innes did write the Paupers Cookbook. Agree with you about tv desensitising people - I was a current affairs producer for a long time, but by the end of my tv days (ie when I had grown up) I couldn't film people without being absolutely sure there would be no negative comeback for them/ they wouldn't regret it.

Daisy Goodwin, India Knight - am sick of all those smug, rich middle class pontificators (I know it's controversial re IK now she has a SN daughter, but she remains part of the spoilt snobby elite as far as i'm concerned)