How does this gel with your thread on your moderation policy MNHQ??

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lougle Sat 19-Nov-16 13:05:08

Apologies in advance for a thread about two threads - I don't want to derail either thread but I'm genuinely curious as to how you've reconciled your stance on moderation with your response to squishysquirmy's poem about Donald Trump?

On your Moderation policy thread Justine says:

"This doesn't mean that it's a complete free for all. Of course we do and will continue to remove posts that break our rules – for instance personal attacks and those that break the law or promote hate."

Then on Squishysquirmy's Help-What-rhymes-with-cuntweasel? thread you've promoted the thread to classics because it contains a 77 line, very clever, very amusing, poem about Donald Trump, which is

-clearly a personal attack
-encouraging others to ridicule him

I'm absolutely no fan, I have to say, but what was the thinking here?? How does this get promoted to classics when other less offensive posts have been deleted recently?

I do think there needs to be some level of consistency if you want people to accept that you are making rational decisions about what you delete.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Sat 19-Nov-16 13:08:27

That is a very very good point lougle

I will be very interested in MNHQs response.

PolterGoose Sat 19-Nov-16 13:09:25

Interested too.

tiredvommachine Sat 19-Nov-16 13:10:29

Good point.

MsMarvel Sat 19-Nov-16 13:11:32

Marking place as interested in MNHQ reply...

QueenMortificado Sat 19-Nov-16 13:12:58

Interested here too...

Soubriquet Sat 19-Nov-16 13:14:42

I think it will be deleted now you've called out on it

Very inventive poem, but against the guidelines as you've said

MrsRyanGosling15 Sat 19-Nov-16 13:20:41

Fair point actually.

IPityThePontipines Sat 19-Nov-16 13:22:58

Why don't you just ask Mumsnet to change their name to GenderCriticalNet - for the Gender critical,by the Gender critical and have done with it?

All this bellyaching just because you weren't allowed to freely insult Paris Lees.

You are aware that threads critical of Victoria Beckham, Lily Allen, Madeleine McCann's parents and David Cameron's parenting have also been previously deleted, aren't you?

I also remember posters getting a bollocking from MNHQ for filling a Gok Wan webchat with snide questions and MNHQ saying that such posting wouldn't be tolerated.

Although, as none of those examples involve trans woman, I suppose it doesn't count as an offence to your womanity for a website to delete those threads.

You are persistently trying to bully the owner of a website into making a grovelling mea culpa to you. I don't think it will happen.

Manumission Sat 19-Nov-16 13:24:36

Pontypines why are you so very invested in the whole transgender thing?

FannyWisdom Sat 19-Nov-16 13:27:06

This thread stinks of bonfire and piss.

More and more popular these days.

IPityThePontipines Sat 19-Nov-16 13:27:23

Manumission - because I think it's grim nasty bigotry against a group of people dressed up as feminism.

Your use of "the transgender thing" is telling.

Manumission Sat 19-Nov-16 13:28:41

Your use of "the transgender thing" is telling.

In what way? What do you want me to call it?

IPityThePontipines Sat 19-Nov-16 13:30:21

Manumission - because I think it's grim nasty bigotry against a group of people dressed up as feminism.

Your use of "the transgender thing" is telling.

IPityThePontipines Sat 19-Nov-16 13:31:04

Transgender people would help.

Manumission Sat 19-Nov-16 13:32:37

I didn't mean transgender people,I meant the whole political (small p) issue surrounding transgenderism.

HoneyDragon Sat 19-Nov-16 13:33:09

I think the poem would fall under satire wouldn't it?

CaesiumTime Sat 19-Nov-16 13:35:17

Yes, agree with HoneyDragon

DonkeyOaty Sat 19-Nov-16 13:36:20

Ponty sorry to be a bit dense but OP is asking about Trump-insulting and you're a-froth about trans issues. I'm kinda not seeing the connection. confused

Manumission Sat 19-Nov-16 13:39:15

That's sort of what I was getting at Donk.

<hangs around and prays for enlightenment>

zen1 Sat 19-Nov-16 13:42:24

Agree with pp. Read Lougle's post several times and no mention of trans issues, so don't know why it's being brought up on this thread.

GingerIvy Sat 19-Nov-16 13:44:47

I reported a few particularly nasty posts calling Trump's wife thick and other things, but I notice they've not been deleted. I'm no fan of Trump, but I think an all out bash on his wife was really uncalled for. Some pretty vile comments on here as well. Looks like a "free for all" to me.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/2776500-Melania-as-FLOTUS?pg=1

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2777471-to-think-Donald-and-Melania-will-have-trouble-keeping-the-staff-Title-edited-by-MNHQ?pg=3

IPityThePontipines Sat 19-Nov-16 13:49:32

Go and have a look at the Moderation Policy Thread OP has linked to and see who's shouting the loudest on that and all will become clear.

MilkTwoSugarsThanks Sat 19-Nov-16 13:51:03

I think the link to "the transgender thing" is that recently there has been a lot of threads about moderation from people who have been stamping their feet a bit because MNHQ aren't moderating exactly how those people would like. It's been mostly connected to threads about transgender people or disabled people.

DonkeyOaty Sat 19-Nov-16 13:52:35

No ta.

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