Private education - would you?(77 Posts)
If you could easily afford private education, would you choose it for your kids? Have a son starting secondary school in September, husband is keen on private, I'm not so sure but worried I'm making the wrong choice I might regret. The local high school we have applied for is fine with a relatively good rep, not considered crap and son is quite happy with it. Hate that we are running out of time.
You have probably left it too late for this year.See how you feel about your high school a year down the line and apply a year or two later.I did this with my dd1.I have to say i am so glad i did this.Her very bright previous compatriots are all choosing drama/woodwork/art gcse's [some doing no foreign languages] even though they are well able to get good university degrees.The so called 'good' local comp.doesn't seem to care about their pupils futures.The phrase 'poverty of aspirations' really does echo in my mind at the moment.But there are some good state schools and some bad private schools[dd1 was in a very bad one overseas for several years].Your ds will learn tenacity and perseverance and how to push himself forward.These are valuable lessons and will help him if you transfer schools at a later date.
OP you've left it too late to do the 11+ to be honest.
And if you were to think of entrance to public school at 13, what will you do with your son in the meantime? You might get a place at prep if you're lucky, I suppose.
Anyhoo, for what it's worth, DH and I went to...^ahem^...challenging comprehensives and did well (got to Oxbridge, earned a buck etc). We decided to go private for our DC. Had misgivings prior. Big ones actually...but not any more. They're teenagers and doing wonderfully well.
I haven't read the whole thread.
I would send my child to the private school I went to. Or to various other selective private schools. But no boarding. And no single-sex schools. My DC would also have to be relatively academic and self confident to cope in that environment so it would depend on my DC (at the moment DC1 is 21mo and DC2 is due in August.)
I work so we can afford to send our two girls to a private school. If I did not work we could not afford the fees.
In primary school I think there are more options for a reasonable state education but our local secondary schools are DIRE and eldest did not pass her 11+ so GS Not an option (hopefully will be for the younger one though) Thankfully she has received a scholarship offer to a great senior school which helps with the money side!
Hubby and I both consider the money well spent as the children are in small classes, have an enormous amount of clubs based at school to choose from and are doing really well academically.
That is true Talkin. Both DH and I got away with soooooo much in a large comp. Not taking the risk with my two DCs. Not with our genes!
If you include the SEN support staff, the pupil : teacher ratio at a comp is not far off that in many private schools!
and indeed, the resource budget makes a huge difference.
But the biggest difference is the fact that NONE of the children at a school like Eton will have parents who do not care whether they get an education ....
Talkin - I dont think the comp I went to had quite the same teacher/pupil ratio at Eton, surely thats the issue rather than the size of the school per se. We didn't have quite the same budget per pupil either!
The size of the school should not be an issue.
Eton has 1300 pupils after all - larger than many comps.
Round here the schools are huge and the sixth form college even larger but aspirations are high
(but declining as Gove's stupid Baccalaureate means schools will not get credit for teaching extra subjects so they will stop stretching bright kids and as the schools are Academies the LEA cannot lean on them)
I totally get the 'would go private rather than have petrol bombed low achieving comp' thing.
But 'private every time' I don't get. There are some dire private schools, and some great comps, and vice versa.
Both DH and I went to large state comprehensives. Have sent both of our private for secondary. Need I say more!
We are delighted with the inde's our kids are at, they are sooooooo lucky and I wish I had had the chance of the kind of rounded education they are getting. It is costing us hugely and we can't do all the other things we might have wanted to, but for us it's worth it.
OneLieIn, not dealing with bullying is not resticted to state, believe me. Plenty of private schools out there refuse to deal with the issue.
And dh agreed because I wouldn't let it go. Then he went to look around, saw the climbing wall, the pool, the rugby pitches, the sports hall, the well behaved boys and that kind of did it too.
Well when I take dd to look at some great private schools so she has a choice, hopefully she will love it
It's not hard, it's just annoying. Dd was bullied recently and the school did NOTHING other than one teacher who spoke to her kindly when she was crying.
She will go private. State over my dead body or maybe my out of work or divorced body
wht does your daughter want? must be hard having one in each and hoping you're doing the right thing by them. sounds like your son is thriving, how did your husband agree to send him private?
Ds needs more "help" and dd is "naturally bright"
Ds has just got a report card that is fab and such a move forwards. It is worth every penny. Parents evenings where they don't just know who he is, they know how he is and talk about how he can improve and they take action immediately.
Dd naturally bright but I phoned and asked to speak to the teacher twice about a problem and never got a call back. She gets by because she is bright but she isn't pushed and they definitely don't make the most of her abilities.
It will involve a huge disagreement between dh and I. His priorities are 1. House and 2. Education. Mine are the opposite. I want really well educated kids who get great jobs so they can earn loads and look after me in my dotage
oneliein - curious, why is your son at private but your daughter state?
help. dh and i went to the same low achieving comp. the head's office got petrol bombed, the school buses used to get driven to the police station etc. it was ugly with crap facilities but a few kids still went on to uni (not me, i bombed out)i sixth year). i would definitely go private if that was the option. hoping the comp we have chosen is a vast improvement. i hear good things about it and it's exam pass rate is much better.
Yes private every time.
Have just sent ds private and would send dd but can't take on the fight of a comp educated dh. There's some famous economist on tv that dh went to school with and he constantly says "he didn't need private" as though that's a real argument.
We are busy parents that work hard and we are not on our kids cases about homework etc and need the school to do that. That's why we pay for private for ds. One of the reasons.
I will say that I really resent the fact that I work hard, earn a ton and can afford to send dd to private but have to have a massive fight to do this and be made to feel like I am letting her down in some way by not letting her go to state and achieve without "help".
No, I would resist private education for as long as I possibly could. The only reasons why I might capitulate would be a) if we were absolutely loaded, not just wealthy enough to be able to afford it and b) if there was a particular local school that my dd or ds had set their hearts on and could give me really good reasons for wanting to go there. But even then I would only be letting them go out of a sense of fear that they might resent me in later life.
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Yip, damn choices, sometimes having choices can be a real pain in the arse (half joking)!
You can't make a generalisation about whether private schools are better than state, or vice versa. You need to look at the options available to you, and choose a school from them (or hope they choose you!)
If you can afford private, it just gives more options.
I have one DC at a state school, and two currently at private. I am confident that I have chosen the best schools for them from the options available.
I was at day private, my sister was a public boarding, DH was at state comp. The kids are at state comp. Financially neither the selective private or the non selective private are an option.
if I had the money, I'd move them to the selective private like a shot, with DH's support.
I think both of us are still pleased with having done state primary as it gave the kids a breadth of world view that kids in prep schools (like I was) never get till they hit the real world at 21 (or enter politics to avoid).
I there is an EXCELLENT state school that the child can get into for secondary, then I wouldn't. If not, then I wouldn't hesitate to pay. You only get one chance at education.
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