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DP. Facebook. Woman. Lying. Need I go on?

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SnotRagWoman · 21/12/2010 14:01

Sorry for the namechange but I frequent certain sections of mn and don't want this to follow me around for the next few months! So basically a few weeks ago DP lets on that an old school friend had added him to his facebook friends list. I wasn't really that interested but smiled and nodded in the right places and forgot about it! Then by accident I saw that they'd been private messaging. Never got to see the content, just a hotmail message saying "you have a new private message from ** on facebook" etc. I didn't think too much of it but wondered why he never mentioned that they'd been chatting. Still, I let it go.
Then we got into a conversation when I thought I'd slip it in "so, hows things with
**?" He pretended to not know what I was on about so I said "the girl you were chatting to on facebook, the girl you knew from school, how is she?" and he replied - quite nervously "oh! her! no idea, don't care to be honest! hehe" Hmm I said "oh Hmm thought you were friends" so he said "nah I hardly know her". I said "so you've not spoken to her at all then, not by private message or anything?" and he said "nope! not at all!" in a rather OTT defensive fashion.

So by this point I know he's lying. But why? So I get into his hotmail account and read a number of private messages between them. Starting off with "hi, how are you, long time no see" etc etc and eventually getting to "so what are you upto these days?"

DP told her he was divorced (true) but did not mention me at all. He said where he was working etc but no mention of the fact that he was in a relationship, even when she pressed on the divorce thing, he STILL didn't mention me. The messages then went to things like "remember when we used to go together? remember this? remember that? etc etc.... all it needed was a "lets meet up for all times sake"!!!

So I asked him again, "did you say you hadn't spoken to that girl on facebook by private message?" he said "no, why? I told you I hardly know her".

Then one night I'd just got out of the shower and came in the living room. DP simply closed down the laptop and sat there looking wierd and unnatural.

I later checked his hotmail messages again and there was one from her saying "what happened then? you just disapeared! did I upset you asking about the divorce? hope not, sorry ... please come back Sad " and he replied with "course you didn't upset me, silly sausage, my laptop crashed"

So he closed down the laptop quickly when I walked in the room because he was chatting to her? if its all so innocent, what's he panicking over?

I watched a few more messages back and forth and it was getting to the point I believe where they were going to suggest meeting up and he'd still not mentioned me. So I came clean, told him I knew about the messages and asked why he lied to me. He denied it all, even when faced with the evidence but eventually admitted the private messages and said he lied because he "knew I'd act like this" if I found out, even though it was innocent.

He then sent her a message telling her all about me, she sent a half hearted message back (not nearly as in depth as her previous ones) and he never replied to it.

So, how would you react in this conversation?

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emmyloulou · 21/12/2010 14:08

Me? I'd leave him. Do you have kids? Or is it a newish relationship?

He lied, lied, lied and lied. If not caught, I think it's a given something would have happened, re a meet.

He has been hiding it, rpobably because he knows full well his feelings were wrong.

He turned the blame on you when he did come clean and only them mentioned you.

I wouldn't have it.

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proudnscaryvirginmary · 21/12/2010 14:08

What on earth do you expect anyone to say?

He is cheating on you, or he intended to cheat on you or he intends to cheat on you. 99% surety that it's all three.

It really cannot get any clearer than that.

If you don't have children together and have not been together for very long then simply end this relationship now and save yourself years of lies and heartache.

If you are more involved with him than that, you need to make a very big decision here. But to be asking how people would 'react in this conversation' - it's a bit beyond that isn't it?!

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SnotRagWoman · 21/12/2010 14:10

I just wanted to make sure I wasn't over-reacting. When someone tells you over and over again that you're unreasonably paranoid, you start to believe them.

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HolyTaxAccountant · 21/12/2010 14:13

You give no idea as to anything else in your relationship. Duration, previous behaviour, current state of affairs etc.

Given the small amount of info, he's a prat. But I just don't know enough to say more than that.

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proudnscaryvirginmary · 21/12/2010 14:13

Oh Snotrag, sorry didn't mean to sound so harsh. I was kind of incredulous that you were even asking. I'm sorry, this is a shit situation. But you must know he is a liar and a cheat and is very unlikely to change.
Keep posting if you want to 'talk' x

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SnotRagWoman · 21/12/2010 14:19

Its ok Mary, I realise it came across a little like I didn't see the big deal, I do I'm just getting to the point where I'm wondering if this is even worth it anymore. He's lied to me so much, not just about this but about money and everything else. He lies and lies, even when I push the evidence right in his face he continues to lie until I even start questioning my own sanity! He promises it won't happen again but it always does. It could be about stupid things (like saying he didn't want dinner because he felt ill when really he'd had Mcdonalds on the way home) or bigger things like telling me he'd never used any of his credit card cheques until I find out he'd paid himself money into the bank from the card. Then this.

I obviously cannot trust him at all but he threw a guilt trip at me "she has cancer, why are you being so nasty about her?" and it all gets turned around as if I'M the one being unreasonable.

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QuintMissesChristmasesPast · 21/12/2010 14:21

I would leave.

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proudnscaryvirginmary · 21/12/2010 14:25

You haven't answered whether you have children with him. Have you?

If no:

LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM LEAVE HIM

Please, love, read what you've written above. Imagine if you read that from another poster.

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SnotRagWoman · 21/12/2010 14:27

No, no kids together. The trust is gone, therefore I think you're right Mary.

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atswimtwolengths · 21/12/2010 14:27

I would leave and I would change your name! It's disgusting!

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QuintMissesChristmasesPast · 21/12/2010 14:28

She has cancer?
If you did not read that in the private messages, then he is talking to her through other means...

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SnotRagWoman · 21/12/2010 14:29

I did read it in the private messages.

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quietlysuggests · 21/12/2010 14:30

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QuintMissesChristmasesPast · 21/12/2010 14:32

I would not be with a man who has no concept of truth.

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tribpot · 21/12/2010 14:33

But you aren't being nasty about her in any case. A bigger question might be why he is taking advantage of someone who is already in a vulnerable state by lying about his relationship status with the probable aim of messing with her emotional wellbeing. That's a shit thing to do to anyone, let alone someone dealing with cancer.

Maybe ask him what kind of turd does that?

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CheerfulV · 21/12/2010 14:50

I would leave him. And no you're not paranoid; he's an arse. End of story, end of relationship.

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WhenwillIfeelnormal · 21/12/2010 14:52

Well it doesn't surprise me that there's a history of lying about other things, but it's pretty obvious that had you not intervened, this would have led to a meeting. I also agree that it takes an especially horrible individual to mess with the emotions of someone who's ill, but that said, I'm puzzled why she didn't ask him at any point whether he was in a relationship? I do think that some people avoid asking that direct question, to absolve themselves of responsibility, if it turns out they are having an affair with an attached person.

He is clearly someone who will lie even when the proof is incontrovertible and then claim that he was "forced to" because of your jealousy.

Can I also add to his list of faults, stupidity? Anyone who was given that many chances to come clean - and still had no suspicions that you were checking his messages is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, is he? I expect you'll say he is arrogant too. So sorry, but cut your losses with this one. Sad

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ensure · 21/12/2010 20:50

I would leave him too!

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stillhurtin · 21/12/2010 20:57

Facebook is a cog in the wheel of me having to leave my wonderful home, pet, extended family, hopes and dreams. If it wasn't for Facebook I might still have the partner I adored. All it takes is "misunderstood" man + flirty young sexpot + Facebook = MESS.

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LittleMissHoHoHoFit · 21/12/2010 22:00

Save yourself an awful lot of heartache, wasted life and broken heart... Leave him.

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BringOnTheGoat · 21/12/2010 22:03

FB is not the problem - it's feckless arseholes.

Do you know about gaslighting? Have a look and see if it rings alarm bells. Wish I'd heard of it years ago!

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QueeferSantaland · 21/12/2010 22:15

Does his fb page not say he's in a relationship?

Doesn't matter really. LEAVE HIM!

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commeuneimage · 21/12/2010 22:47

He was flirting behind your back, didn't want to upset you. Yes, he lied - but he hasn't met her or had online sex. It's not as bad as all that surely? Don't leave him just because of that!

Mumsnetters can be incredibly judgmental.

Discuss it, think about it and get it in perspective is my advice.

He's a flirt, not a mass murderer.

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Thingumy · 21/12/2010 22:54

agree with commue

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ChaoticChristmasAngelCrackers · 21/12/2010 22:58

commeuneimage he's a liar. The op has already said he lies about everything even when presented with evidence of his lies.

OP he probably would have cheated on you if he'd had the opportunity but in one way that's a red herring. How can you trust a man (I use man in the loosest possible terms) who constantly lies to you.

Leave him, you can do better.

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