To Kumon or not to Kumon. That is the question.

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megabored Sun 17-Jun-12 00:28:30

DD is starting school in September. Below are the Pros and Cons I have been debating recently.

1. She is bright, so should be okay without extra help in school
2. It is too early to put her through this
3. Kumon is expensive and time consuming.

The Pros

1. It may give her that bit of extra confidence at school
2. Earlier is better as then she can grow with that system
3. Its not so expensive as to be prohibitive.

I really cant decide either way. Please someone help?

Cloud2 Mon 24-Aug-15 10:51:52

Nicolepowell999, maybe you can buy some book from shop and do it youself? Like Bond nonsense math, If he stuggles, you can try year 7-8 first. There are free worksheet from Bond website too. The nice thing about do it youself, is you can find out what your DS is struggling about.

I always think there is not enough practice in primary school now, some children may be fine. But most children would benifit from a bit practice. Like my DS2, he is at the top math group(finished Y2), but is still not very quick at 8+7, 17-8 this sorts of basic question. He can get it, but need thinking.

I buy books from shop, download worksheet from website, we do 2-3 papers a week, everytime it takes 10 minutes. I think this is enough.

ImperialBlether Sat 22-Aug-15 21:36:07

My daughter was very good at Maths. My son wasn't, so he did Kumon and I enrolled my daughter on it, too. She was about 9 and started on 1+1 - by the time she left, a year later, she still wasn't at the point she'd been at when she started.

It's money driven, that's the problem with it. It's a good idea, but by making children start at the basics, the students who find Maths easier will be very, very bored.

Cookie122 Sat 22-Aug-15 21:29:27

i done kumon and found it soooo boring and some days so stressed out. BUT it did help me soooo much I really struggled with maths and it totally helped me

nicolepowell999 Mon 17-Aug-15 19:57:55

Hi sorry to bring this back up but my son is the youngest in the year and struggles a bit with a lot of work and support from me he now has no extra help at school but this scares me and I thought about Kumon but my goodness I am confused! Is it any good for a just turned 8 year old boy who could do with some help?

mrz Sun 16-Nov-14 06:38:08


mrz Sat 15-Nov-14 12:16:48

Con she isn't even in school yet!

Feenie Sat 15-Nov-14 11:21:14

Yes, that's definitely what's missing in Reception, endless worksheets.

portico Sat 15-Nov-14 10:24:00

Just use schofield and sims, and Bon test paper books. They are age relevant. Good for diagnostic testing, short bursts of work and can be done at home.

efrieze78 Fri 14-Nov-14 22:30:13

We learnt a lot from Kumon - both my DDs did it for a year in Reception to "kick start" them.

spanieleyes Sat 08-Nov-14 17:13:29

Your name wouldn't be Sarah by any chance?

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Feenie Sat 15-Jun-13 21:40:51

And you definitely can't up three old threads to do so.

Feenie Sat 15-Jun-13 21:35:41

I don't think you are allowed to conduct market research on MN without permission.

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margarateishere Mon 25-Feb-13 23:17:28

I did extensive research on this topic and those are the most insightful research papers I was able to digg up:

A study of the Kumon method used as an in-school supplemental program to traditional mathematics instruction in the fourth-grade
Hughes, Raymond Carroll. The University of Mississippi, 1994. 9431566.

Significant Improvements in Statewide Test Results As A Consequence of Using A Japanese-Based Supplemental Mathematics System, Kumon Mathematics, in an Inner-Urban School District. ... by Barbara Oakley, Doreen Lawrence, Jesse Petway, Mark Jackson, Pat Dessert, Darrin Hanna

Using the Kumon Method to Revitalize Mathematics in an Inner-Urban School District. Barbara A. Oakley, Doreen Lawrence, Walter L. Burt, Broderick Boxley, Christopher J. Kobus

Elaine28 Sun 24-Feb-13 20:01:32

I decided to give Kumon a go after watching DS play super mario bros. He was only 4 and had started playing it with his big cousins. He was more than happy to repeat the same thing over and over till he corrected his mistake and was able to move onto the next level. He wasn't bothered that he kept having to do the same thing again till he got it right. Kids seem to like repetition, they don’t mind watching the same show on tv for the 100th time. Millions are spent developing these games and millions of kids love them so they’ve got something right.

Sure enough he loves the challenge of doing his Kumon and trying to beat his own time. Yes some days he whinges and doesn't want to do it, but then sometimes he doesn't want to tidy his room and sometimes he doesn't want to go to the toilet when he's dancing on the spot, so I guess that's life!
£55 is a lot of money, but he doesn’t do Judo or tennis etc. and I'd rather spend the money on giving him something that gives him so much confidence in school.

mumofteen Fri 22-Feb-13 17:25:51

Kumon works! Surely everyone realises we learn through repetition. How does a baby learn to talk, how do we learn to play an instrument. In order to be good at something we need to practise it over and over till we have mastered it. Andy Murray has hit more than a few balls to get to where he is today, Tiger Woods has put in a good few hours of practise. If you want to understand why the Kumon Method works read "The Talent Code: Greatness isn't born. It's Grown" Daniel Coyle and "Bounce: The Myth of Talent and the Power of Practise". If you want to master something you need to practise it a little every day. I have two DD's doing Kumon, both were middle of the road students before they started. Now DD1 is in the top Maths set in the top school according to the Times List, this is not a coincidence. Is she overworked and pushed too hard - No! she does 15-30 mins maths a day, and still manages to squeeze in 4-5 hours on facebook/TV smile
If your thinking about Kumon give your child a chance and decide for yourself, you wont regret it.

Feenie Thu 21-Feb-13 20:52:01

You have to pay for those kinds of opportunites, margarateishere.

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Deepdiver Sun 09-Dec-12 07:48:45

I have an 11 year old and a 7 year old. Both went into the Kumon system early (pre school) and benefitted greatly. I disagree that it does not give them confidence - being able to answer questions in class that others cannot is a great source of confidence and pride. They both achieve at the highest level, I know I'm very lucky - this year they got gold and silver and double gold at the awards. BUT - we are now looking at reducing the amount done drastically, obviously more for the 11 year old, theres still valuable lessons for the younger one. They have learned the basics that Kumon does well and now the benefit curve has begun to slow, allowing us to consider other ways of developing their abilities.

And it never meant they didnt play, or read. Kumon took up twenty minutes or so a day - we did it either straight after school or immediately after breakfast on a weekend. Easy peasy.

HRHLadyG Tue 06-Nov-12 20:25:23

Let her settle, let her play and explore her new school world without pressure. These first years are about learning to learn and enjoy learning NOT being top of the class. She's more likely to develop good self esteem and self confidence if she feels she's able to be as she is!

Crouchendmumoftwo Tue 09-Oct-12 23:51:33

Your poor daughter she is only 5 let he be a child and enjoy her childhood without forcing more restrictions on her and what you think is best. Let her be creative, play with friends, have free time and none of all this pressure. She has plenty of that to come, she has school. She is going to be a very subdued put upon child at this rate. Lighten up and let her be a child and enjoy herself a bit!
I really feel for her it doesnt sound like there is much fun in store for her. Take her to the park in her free time, make cakes, have giggles dont stick her in a room and put pressure on her. It sounds ghastly! Most of all lighten up she is just a little child.

Seth Tue 09-Oct-12 22:30:08

sorry posted previous message in wrong thread - will move

Seth Tue 09-Oct-12 22:29:16

Hi. I have a question re home schooling and wondered if anyone had any first hand experience of what a parent has to do in order to homeschool. I am not asking for me my DD is in year one at a local school. It's actually more of a concern for a friend of mine. She works full time and her DH is full time carer for their DS who is 4. He has never been to nursery or a playgroup and there are no plans for him to. He doesn't have any regular interaction with children his age

Now it transpires that the plan is for him to be homeschooled. This is a decision taken by my friend's husband. You could say this is none of my business, and I suppose it technically isn't but I am quite concerned about the whole thing (along with some other friends of ours). The Husband is very strong willed, very religious and does not see a need for his DS to have any interaction with other children. He thinks that all he really needs to know about is God. The DS is a truly lovely boy but is lacking in confidence and would really benefit from seeing other children and being in a school environment

I have googled home schooling to see what one has to do in order to home school and unless I am wrong it doesn't seem that there are any real checks or assessments done in order for a parent to do this. I hope I am wrong and am missing something ?

I haven't even had the chance to ask my dear friend how she feels about this as he was there last time we saw each other but I do know that she feels as if she has less of a voice due to the fact that she is out at work all day. I know it may seem as if I am sticking my nose in but I am not going to try and interfere, I just want to know a little more about it if anyone has any experience of this. Ultimately it's their choice regardless of what I think! Thanks.

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