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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE Fri 31-Jan-14 13:58:10

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
https://sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

LucindaE Fri 31-Jan-14 14:15:37

Chaffinch You won't believe this, but this very morning, not having seen your message, I was doing some research of rabies being endemic in UK wildlife prior to controls...Talk about improbable co-incidences or to a grand term, 'synchroniciy'!

Due Dates
Jen 15 February (nearly a Valentine's Day present)
Chaffinch 25 March
Meerka 30 April
PunkStar 8 June
SliceofLime 2 August
IWorry 8 August
What 14 August.*

Sorry, New did you give a date? I'll check back...
xx

jenpatnim Fri 31-Jan-14 14:43:40

Hi all, just here to mark the place.... feeling a bit miserable today.

petitlapin1 Fri 31-Jan-14 15:13:05

Long time reader, first time poster. Can I join the puke club?

24 weeks with our first after an early loss in June last year. 2 admissions for fluids so far, one at 16 weeks, the other a few days ago. Admissions seem to be triggered by infections- uti first time round, dental infection this time. Loving my ketostix! (Although does anyone else find they have to fight to be believed when they ring up and say they've got 4+ ketones? "How do you know? Who gave you the ketostix? Why are you testing? Are you a midwife?!")

After a bit of trial and error metoclopramide seems to work for me, when it'll stay down. Has anyone brought it back up to find out it's blue?! (White tablet+neon bile = bright blue vomit!) Still have the nausea and wretching but minimal vomiting unless i'm tired or up before noon.

Not been at work for nearly 2 months now, but still too poorly to contemplate 13 hour shifts in a physically and mentally demanding job.

Thought i'd join up now i'm coming to terms that it might not miraculously resolve for me before 12 weeks 14 weeks 16, 18, 20, 24 weeks birth.

Looking forward to sharing the next few months with people who won't suggest ginger biscuits or travel bands and who will offer humour and sympathy when i've had a particularly horrific episode (the shower with the water sickness and the lack of pelvic floor muscles, or the sneeze-bile-vomit in asda etc).

livingzuid Fri 31-Jan-14 15:49:14

'waves' lucinda can you add my due date to the list? 6 June <clapping excitedly in her head at the thought of having her body back!>

petit sorry you are here but it is a lovely supportive thread smile I just stopped work at 16 weeks. Fortunately my contact ended and I'm not exactly forcing myself to look too hard for work! It's lovely being at home and able to rest. Don't feel bad about it hg really takes it out of you.

chaffinch clasps is genius. I am so far removed from an earth mother type goddess thing who seem to be able to bind their babies up and trot off happily. Going to look for some now.

I missed a post from dizzy on the last thread, hope you are doing better.

Psychiatrist explained to me today that lithium levels were on the increase and that I am one of those that does better with a lower dose. They are keeping it the same for now thank god. But my dosage will be massively increased for the first month after pg. Sigh. Have a barrage of blood tests to do now. The reassuring thing is to feel the baby kicking away. She's active today!

Back to my reclining position on the sofa...

livingzuid Fri 31-Jan-14 15:52:21

jen I cross posted, just the usual misery? sad

SliceOfLime Fri 31-Jan-14 16:25:13

Hi petitlapin sorry to hear you've had such a miserable time, this thread is a godsend for sympathy and actual help. I think we should have a sign made up to hang round our necks that says "offer me a ginger biscuit and I will throw up on you" grin

living yes I am super cool in my pyjamas smile I wish I could achieve pregnancy glamour... I suspect I will never manage that! Was it you wondering about slings? I have a BabaSling I got secondhand when DD was tiny but never got on with it, it's in exllent condition, I would happily pass it on to you if you like? I've no idea where it is at the moment but when our builders have finished and it's finally safe to move back in I will dig it out.

jenpatnim Fri 31-Jan-14 16:52:21

Living, not so much, no. There has been a hint of nausea today but not too bad. But I was up half the night with serious acid in my throat, plus trapped wind and backache, so I feel worn out and down today. It is the first time in a good while that I have been properly hit with low mood and I just feel generally crappy. I have mooched around the house all day, not really eating, starting to do things then wandering off half way through to do something else.... I kept thinking I would go back to bed but then didn't quite make it upstairs.

Plus I have this strong feeling of pressure all over, it is very strange. All I can hope is that the baby wants to come sooner rather than later... I am looking forward to getting back on my antidepressants and feeling more normal.

BlingBubbles Fri 31-Jan-14 16:57:14

Hi ladies,

I had terrible Hyperemisis when pregnant with my DD who is now 2.6years old, DH and I are now talking about trying for a second but the thought of being that sick again and this time having a toddler is putting us both off.

I honestly feel for all of you and wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy!!

StarsInTheNightSky Fri 31-Jan-14 17:12:12

Hi all, how is everyone feeling today?

newly and petit welcome to the club smile
petit I'm on metaclopramide at the moment, and yes I have witnessed The Azure Horror as my DH calls it, he thinks it's like something from a 1950s horror film! I've been signed off work until I start maternity leave at 36 weeks, as everyone says, don't feel bad, HG is hideous.

Chaffinch as sliceoflime said, it does make it sound like something cool and trendy, the crazy squirrel made me laugh too grin

sliceoflime pjs sounds great, I have some maternity jeans from JoJo and they are amazingly comfy. I'm just managing in big size Sainsburys PJs at the minute, but the fit is getting pretty awkward around the bump now.

dizzy hopefully the medicine will start helping soon. I get pretty anxious from time to time, as you say spending so much time alone doesn't help, and I find that having gone from being busy and working full time, to having spending most days in bed or on the sofa it's difficult to adjust. Also, being under a lot of medical supervision I think is difficult, and you've had a tough time of it lately, so perhaps that could be contributing too?

jen are you ok? <offers ginger biscuit so that it can be ritualistically stamped on and ground into a pulp>

living and Punk your due dates are really close to mine, I'm 1st June grin
living great news about your little girl having an active day, I love feeling the movements, sorry to hear about the blood tests and increased dosage for the 1st month after she's born, but if it helps then it's all good I guess.

lucinda as others have said, thank you for this thread and for your support, I know I'd really be struggling otherwise. flowers Also, I haven't been on to reply to you, but yes thanks, consultant has referred me to the cardiologist to see if I can be put on steroids instead of metaclopramide, and the meta just doesn't seem to be working. Well, some days I think it's working, and then it seems to be useless again. I know nothing is going to be a miracle cure, but if it could just be a bit more under control that would be great. Not sure what cardiologist will say though as I have heart problems, hence the reluctance to put me on steroids so far, still fingers crossed!

I've been having another day on the sofa, and feeling miffed at our hospital, they've helpfully booked me five appointments in two weeks time, all on different but consecutive days! Grrrr, I'm going to phone and change them, I don't want to be up there five days on the trot!
Still, hopefully that will get things sorted as will be seeing the cardiologist about hopefully going onto steroids instead of metaclopramide for the HG, seeing the consultant anaesthetist for her to decide for definite whether I should have a planned c-section or can try for a vaginal birth (I'm keeping everything crossed that I can have a waterbirth grin) seeing the orthopedic consultant and neurologist to see what my spine/pelvis/spinal chord are doing (to help anaesthetist decide whether c-section or not). Then last of all seeing our obstetric consultant for a routine check up and for him to discuss what's been decided with me. hmm

StarsInTheNightSky Fri 31-Jan-14 17:16:44

jen sorry, crossed post due to my slow typing! Fingers crossed it means baby's getting ready to appear, my SIL felt very crappy and depressed for about five days before her baby arrived and she kept saying she had a feeling of pressure, with none of the other more traditional signs of labour, so perhaps it is a sign? smile Sorry you're feeling so rubbish though.

Newlywed2013 Fri 31-Jan-14 17:26:09

Marking my spot!

livingzuid Fri 31-Jan-14 17:46:59

lime I'll PM you smile

stars that is so annoying. I find it really tiring to get to appointments plus if you're trying not to vom it makes it even worse! Blood tests I can live with I just hate needles and sometimes they take so much I feel like a pincushion! Still all worth it so long as the baby is ok!

Jen fingers crossed that the baby puts in an early appearance how wonderful would that be to have a couple of weeks early freedom from HG! I get so uncomfortable in the evenings. Bloated, really uncomfy lower back, my legs are what I can only describe as 'floopy' and super fidgety but then with the discomfort I can't move comfortably. Pregnancy meh.

I now have a horrible, disgusting taste in my mouth. I am eating anything I can to try and make it go away but NOTHING works sad gaaaa it's awful!

Meerka Fri 31-Jan-14 18:42:27

waddles in glumly holding the sickbucket very start of the 3rd trim and it's getting nastier again .... oh god, can't we fast forward time?

hi newlywed

glad you got more meds dizzy and yes depression is very normal. take a healthy woman and turn her into a miserable puking shadow of herself unable to go out and dealing with shitty medicos ... depression bloody predictable really. Do really hope the scan is ok. don't worry about the movement though - I've forgotten is it your first? took me til week 22 with first, around week 19 with this baby

I knew squirrels were deadly ...

ChaffinchOfDoom Fri 31-Jan-14 18:46:09

dizzy sorry to hear you're feeling anxious
it does sound as though everything is ticking along nicely, some people just don't feel movements till 20++ weeks, it depends a lot about where the placenta is, and where the uterous is floating about to, I think.

yes Loopy Lou rabies syncronicity very strange grin

well I for one am rocking the pregnancy glamour. to match my green tinged face Ive purchased a pair of men's cheap tracksuit bottoms from asda as warm slouching gear. they are a large <already tight yikes> £6. I know how to treat myself.

ChaffinchOfDoom Fri 31-Jan-14 18:49:22

x-post a bit there Meerka

agree the depression thingie, hyperem is a depressive condition, it is bloody hard, wearing and exhausting. is there anyone in RL you can see for a hot water and lemon Dizzy ? / flat lucozade / ice lolly grin

we must be the world's most dreaded visitors
If I go to my mum's I'm like 'What time's dinner? exactly?'

Iworrymyselftosleep Fri 31-Jan-14 19:33:46

dizzy I spent much of my first pregnancy alone in a cold flat (heating made me vomit) while DP was at work. He'd come home each night, after being made to eat elsewhere (takeaway on the car often) and then I would sleep upright on the sofa on my own due to insomnia /vomiting / heartburn. I have never felt so lonely and alone. Hg is a depressive condition and when it's been bad this time, I sat and cried - it seems to be easier to handle if I don't tell myself that I shouldn't be sad; of course I'm bloody crying, I've vomited so hard my nose is bleeding. It doesn't mean you don't want the baby, you just don't want the sickness.

Hello to the other names I don't recognise <waves> petit and stars I think but daren't check as I lost a post last time I pratted while using my phone to post.

anyway I can beat you all in pregnancy fashion. Uh huh. I am stylish - you'll be well jel to know I received dungarees in the post this week. And you know what, I can't bear anything around my tummy, even huge granny sized knickers bother me so they're perfect grin DP hates them grin

LucindaE Sat 01-Feb-14 10:27:29

Welcome, Petitlapin So sorry you are still suffering at a late date.
I am [angry[ that they argued about kesostix result - how absurd, that's horribly high. 13 hour shifts? I found eleven hours shifts in my library days bad enouigh in full health, you shouldn't even think about it! That awful
sneeze-bile-vomit in Asda is just the sort of thing that happened to me!
blush. I am amazed so many people are such tidy pukers, and always make it to the loo or anyway, a sink...Your right, met is blue! Vrey decorative...
Dizzy I missed this post, but if you are anxious, would the midwife check the hearbeat - not sure at what stage this is easy?
Stars It is a pleasure giving a bit of support to such brave women!
I know Punkstar and MurderofGoths were greatly helped by steroids. They by passed Ondansetron,then, for medical reasons or whatever?
Jen That tightness and moodiness might be a good sign, then...Fingers crossed.
MeerkaReally sorry it's coming back in the third tri. That is so disappointing when you hoped it was on its way out. Hugs.
Newlywed How are things?
Livingzuid Re; that taste, I found parma violets a bit puke making, though I tried them a bit. The only thing that helped me was those barley sugars or - you'll laugh - I chewed fresh mint out of desperation!
Chaffinch and IWorry SliceofLime grin about men's trackies and granny knickers. It was the Passion Killing Nightdress for me, with a lavender sachet held to my nose in case OH didn't get the general idea - he smelt awful to me...
Blingbubble Thank you for message of sympathy. It is a shame this prevents women from doing it again, it did me, and I do regret that now.
Due Dates
Jen 15 February (nearly a Valentine's Day present)
Chaffinch 25 March
Meerka 30 April
Livingzuid 6 June
PunkStar 8 June
SliceofLime 2 August
IWorry 8 August
What 14 August.

Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.
xx

Hi all

Just found the new thread! How is everyone?

Thanks for all the good advice about the general sadness/depression I've been feeling. I know it's completely logical- I'm not sad at life I'm sad at the lack of life right now!

As for the midwife listening for the heartbeat, I seem to be under the care of some absolute jokers. I've seen three different midwives- each less friendly or personable than the last- and at my last appointment she spent the whole time fielding phone calls and said at the end "sorry we've not had time for any questions- but if you've got any you can always ring the triage" confused

I did have a scan at 16 weeks after a hospital admittance and was told everything was ok but then got a letter yesterday telling me I needed one at 19 weeks because of my hospital admittance. When I phoned and asked why no one knew so that's only served to worry me hmm I know it's probably fine but the care I'm getting does feel a bit shit.

Iworrymyselftosleep Sat 01-Feb-14 17:11:06

dizzy that does sound awful - I really get disappointed by 'bad' midwives as some can be great and I get cross when I get a not so great one. I think feeling so ill means I'm hoping my midwives will be 'people who understand and help' and when they don't, I get really downcast. I hope the scan proves reassuring but how long do you have to wait?

lucinda and blingbubble I was put off doing it again (hah) but I had three miscarriages and my response focused on overcoming that rather than how I would feel when I was pregnant. I wish, really wish, that my consultant and gp had paid more attention to me when I said I had had hyperemesis before as the attitude of doctors towards this makes it so much worse. It shouldn't be that they'll only treat it when you're firmly entrenched in the vomiting and nausea. I have had really dark moments during this pregnancy where I've thought thoughts I'm ashamed of but it shouldn't be that we're left to get so desperate.

I threw up today in the street. And in the busy toilets of a shopping centre sad public vomiting is my big fear... I also caught a glimpse of myself in a mirror when I wasn't expecting it. I looked awful sad

Meerka Sat 01-Feb-14 18:59:16

not vomitting every day now but the evenings are pretty horrible. Just feel so down .. row with husband and not being able to do much at all with son just doesn't help. I hate it that I can do so little. Read him a short story and just talking triggered the vomitting afterwards. Son got out of the bath to pat my hair .... I just wanted to cry, he's so nice, and I can pay him so little attention

Lauranne Sat 01-Feb-14 19:42:10

Checking in, am 16+5, due 14th July,currently on metaclopramide, so also have the delight of blue sick. This is my second pregnancy, but first HG pregnancy if that makes any sense.
It's so nice to find you all, I find myself not daring to go out without wearing a tena lady, as no way can I control my pelvic floor in a puke attack.
Feel so miserable, and just would like to able to enjoy my pregnancy, and my 9 year old before he stops being an only. I know you all feel the same so feel safe saying that here. I totally get the rage when people suggest ginger biscuits, just the smell would set me off.

Iworrymyselftosleep Sat 01-Feb-14 20:23:47

lauranne - ginger biscuit rage. Forever the benchmark to be used to separate those who understand and those who don't grin

meerka and lauranne I get the sadness at not making the most of DS being an only. I wish I was doing more with him - I have all these projects and plans and yet every day I fold. The other night he woke up in the night as I was being sick and I was trying to supervise him peeing in the dark while throwing up in a bucket. DP stayed in bed while DS was desperately trying to aim while shouting over his shoulder "mummy I want you to be ok"

I've got 10 days til this scan. I'm not mega worried as they said at 16 weeks everything was fine but I'm kind of worried by the fact that a) this week I've been on insanely strong antibiotics and codrydamol and b) no one at my hospital seems to know what the hell they're doing grinconfused

Big hello to the new ladies. I fully understand feeling down. With you all.

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