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By Mercy on Thu 24-Jan-08 16:46:35 there seems to be a huge gulf in the type of programmes shown on Cbeebies and those on Cbbc. My dd (nearly 7) has nearly outgrown Cbeebies but many of the programmes shown on Cbbc seem to aimed at a pre-teen/early teen audience and are unsuitable imo. I would like to see more programmes aimed at 6-10 year olds to be shown after school. What do you think?
I agree with her, i think that there should be a cbeebies, cbbc and cbeens (for young teenage cbbc watchers) in order to spread out the viewing so it's age appropriate for all the target audience all of the time!!
By Mercy on Thu 24-Jan-08 16:46:35 there seems to be a huge gulf in the type of programmes shown on Cbeebies and those on Cbbc. My dd (nearly 7) has nearly outgrown Cbeebies but many of the programmes shown on Cbbc seem to aimed at a pre-teen/early teen audience and are unsuitable imo. I would like to see more programmes aimed at 6-10 year olds to be shown after school. What do you think?
I agree with her, i think that there should be a cbeebies, cbbc and cbeens (for young teenage cbbc watchers) in order to spread out the viewing so it's age appropriate for all the target audience all of the time!!
We have only about 1 hour CBeebies everyday here in Forces Tv, which was a real culture shock when DD arrived here from the UK. Could you see if BFBS can buy in more AND schedule it when children are home from school and not at school. We have to rely entirely on DVDs as the only chance we get to watch the 3/4 programmes a day is when she is on school holiday. I do know we are only a minute sector, but please help!!
Califrau, DS1 (3.9) said, "D is for Double savings, F is for Four years interest free credit with the first year payment free, S is for Sofas" the other day. He had the intonation perfectly - he's a good mimic! He's always telling me they have the best sofas and, look, they're half price!
ROFL. don't people from the BBC speak funny. 'i've tasked my people to create blah blah blah'. good job, Mikey, but really, it's a long time since Birt. <mourns GD>
And if he wants to talk over the format of a programme that can include positive messages about breastfeeding for the CBeebies audiences, he can, of course, contact me.
Oh god, Two Pints is possibly the worst programme ever. I seriously object that I in any way pay for the production of it, even if it is less than 0.0000000000000000000000000001p per year
We did get a couple of hard plastic ones on wheels once from the comic - but they didn't "blob" about. If yours is squashy or squeezy in any way we'd be more than happy to give it a good home
This reminded me of a conversation myself and DP had last weekend. It would be great if the license fee system could change, so that you can opt for what areas you would like to fund, and opt out of subsidising those you have no interest in. Also if it wasn't a fixed amount, but a minimum payment with the option to pay more if you can, and wish to do so.
Thereby more funding would go to the things we actually want, rather than what a board have decided we want.
It would all be very lovely and democratic, though no doubt a nightmare logistically.
Plus theres always the worry that a large contingent would opt for just sport and reruns of men behaving badly.
Thank you Michael - you sound like the kind of bloke I'll be happy to hand my licence fee over to - keep up the fab work and thank you on behalf of 2 very satisfied children (5 and 2.5)
Diversity is a key value of CBeebies and I have worked hard to make sure that we represent all sections of our community. You'll see real kids from different economic backgrounds, gender, and race.
This is reflected not just in specific programmes like Something Special, but is implicit in everything we do, from story telling to our entertainment shows - even in animation. We're introducing a wheelchair user in the new series of Postman Pat. I'll continue to make sure CBeebies reflects society.
Oh boogie beebies LOVELY. My dds can often be found singing the 'at the airport' chorus complete with actions. And tasty presenter too. I',m sure you realise how important that is, Michael.
Hello mellowma - I have about £8m to spend each year on orginal production. That allows me to do about 100 new hours. I have to fill over about 4,380 hours. As you can see, repeating some programmes is a must - besides children really to get a lot out of repeats: they see things they hadn't seen before and feel empowered when they know what is about to happen, etc. I can understand that parents get annoyed but we come from a different perspective. I have to provide a service which is value for money - and at roughly 0.3p per licence fee payer!
Cap, no of course I havent taken it the wrong the way, i completely agree with you. I do think most severe and profoundly disabled children do tend to go around in 'packs' due to the nature of suitable schooling for them. Plus I feel my dd's peers are very similar to her iykwim. But it is more likely that a child with phsyical disabilities alone would be attending a mainstream school setting amongst their contemporaries and this should be shown more readily now that inclusion is normal
Hi CathKidston - I don't have a qualified answer for you. What can I say... boys like blue and girls like pink - a huge generalisation but one we can't ignore. We find that boys love animation and girls prefer real people telling stories. I do everything I can to question the gender stereotypes on CBeebies but there is only so far I can go before I start to alienate our audiences. Lunar Jim has a very large female skew and Nina and the Neurons attracts lots of boys - go figure!
hunker there was a woman breastfeeding on there the other day aswell, cant remember which program it was. But they were saying so and sos baby sister gets mummys milk and blah blah blah
well atleast two of us have mentioned the excat same show that is on Milkshake as being a really good example of a programme that catches the attention and needs of a 4-6 year old. Big School, It is real life and relevant. Please try and put out some more things suitable for those who are in this age bracket, interactive, real people and things that relate to them or that they might be worried about that could help them understand things better,
Hi Michael - did you see this question by this incredibly well-informed, tenacious and likeable poster?
By hunkermunker on Wed 30-Jan-08 13:58:31 Any chance of a programme that shows breastfeeding (in a casual way, as part of everyday life) - to help normalise it among children and benefit them later in life?
thanks for something special btw. My dd uses makaton and her sld/pmld school find it wonderful. We are a bit pissed off the dvds are more expensive though when it is shown on a mainstream channel.
Thanks. If you get time, could you do my question about the music? The balance of music has definitely gone more poppy, and loud. My 21mth MUCH prefers the more gentle music.
even if you don't get to answer the disabled children question (since you have answered one of mine already) please take it with you in your heart
disabled children do not always roam in packs and showing them interacting with their able bodied peers is immensely important at an age when all children are making their minds up about difference
By OliviaMumsnet on Wed 30-Jan-08 14:18:30
(from MNHQ)
MascaraOHara - don't panic - we are thinking of extending CBBC for older children not CBeebies. I know that if I went beyond 7 p.m. I would have to leave the country!
tortoiseSHELL - Apart from Tots TV I haven't come across a 'language' programme that actually works for the audience. However, I am very keen to find something that does expose young children to multiple languages. There's no short term solution, but we will continue to work on it.
Oh, yes Boo was great (see one and only pic on my profile), ds2 watches it on dvd a lot!
We love CBeebies and I have been watching with various offspring for 7 years now. Autumn/Spring watch is my favourite and I am a little sad that no more new stuff is being made, but older two kids (7 and 5) like the Ecobeebies stuff too so we're happy enough here .
Hi Meemar - thanks for your kind comments. I did indeed have a hand in the partnerships between Sid / Andy and Pui / Chris. They are four very talented and dedicated presenters who I hold in high regard. They are very popular and I'm thrilled they are connecting with our audiences so well.
Does anyone remember the bbc programme where a giant pen (perhaps with eyes) drew out letter shapes along with a running commentary 'up and round and flick' etc That was so great.
My2Weegirls - no plans to adjust the opening and closing hours of CBeebies in the foreseeable future. The website of course is available 24 hours a day and we have introduced new content including CBeebies Radio (from our live broadcast on BBC7) and more video streaming. So plenty to do there.
Dear yetanothername - you've raised a question which concerns others - Springwatch and Autumnwatch. I love these two initiatives and I've been a great supporter, however, with the current savings requirements and the pressures on delivering value for money, it is simply not possible to commission new events. I did repeat the last Springwatch which went down well with new audiences and certainly showcased a fantastic production. What I plan to do is extend all that is good and great about Springwatch and Autumnwatch with EcoBeebies across the entire year!
Yes, good point Hunker, not anything like 'and here is Mummy feeding the baby' just Mum sat feeding the baby in the background, normal stuff. A show like Me Too or Balamory where you see parents and kids anyway.
Ds (2.9) and I occasionally get the chance to watch the phonics programme at 8.50 together - its fantastic in its presentation and great for him to watch with me. However, I was horrified the other day when, watching the 'U' programme I saw a picture of an immature coot - I wondered what this had to do with a 'U' sound - it was apparently a 'duck'. My son can recognise a coot and a duck and knows the difference between then - and could see that the bird shown wasn't a duck. Why, oh why couldn't an easy picture of a duck be shown? Surely its a bit of a basic mistake to put a picture of the wrong sort of water bird on something like this?
OH, I see I hope she found time to wash that cardi
I really really really really really feel sad that ds2 knows not the joy of Cbeebies, apart from the website.
and what was that about TV centre being sold? What will happen to that fountain around which a record breaking line up of juvenille tap dancers tap danced their way in to the record books with Roy Castle? Will pieces be snatched for memorabilia like the Berlin Wall?
Any chance of a programme that shows breastfeeding (in a casual way, as part of everyday life) - to help normalise it among children and benefit them later in life?
DS has a singing boo, (cost £35 on ebay, madness!) and I have tried to convince him that a tiger and duck from elc are the ones from the programme but he's no fool.
Mine are too old for CBeebies now (10,8,6) but we did watch for years.
Can I just say that they REALLY loved The Shiny Show. I just wanted to say that. It was a good show, so is Come Outside. Please don't overlook the factual/quiz sort of things in favour of too much narrative based weirdies in suits - the factual stuff really hooks them. And The Shiny Show was good because it had a competitive element - most unusual and rewarding.
Just wanted to say that. Perhaps there is something nowadays that does this, if so please ignore.
Suzy, they were different kids that's why she said 'lets see who's at the nursery today' and then named them as they came in. She did have trouble with her short term memory though, asking your child what his/her name was every day!