Here.

It's too early in the morning to get my blood pressure up, but my response was ** off. Have you ever felt like you were going to split in two? No, because you're a man, and you've never bloody given birth!

Tosser.

Maybe if women weren't so bloody messed about with in labour with artificially induced labours and speeded up labours there wouldn't be such a need for drugs.

strangely enough I think that is part of what he is saying wmmc.

Sad he had to mix it up with a load of mysoginistic patronising wanky bollocks.

how in the world does pain prepare a woman for the responsibility of having a baby? No-one seems to be suggesting men need 18 hours of pain to become a good father.

Of course there are issues around epidurals and medical management of births but if he's been reported accurately the prof doesn't understand them.

Haven't read this but my gut feeling is he may be trying to say that women should be encouraged to listen to their bodies in labour and move appropriately. I doubt he was saying that women should not be allowed pain relief. We mess around with women's bodies in labour so much and as a result many have pain relief that they may not have needed if only they had been left alone.

Harnes the technology and the need for pain relief will go down. BUT if you still want that epidural you can have it (as I did).

Jolly he is saying that the NHS should stop routinely giving epidurals on demand and that

"Pain in labour is a purposeful, useful thing, which has quite a number of benefits, such as preparing a mother for the responsibility of nurturing a newborn baby."
TWAT

He's not saying no pain relief though is he, but fewer epidurals.

Well he sees pain as important for bonding

I think he has a nerve, to be honest.

PS

Dr Denis Walsh, for example, is a twat.