Hutton: what do you think?

[OldieMum]

I am getting cynical in my old age, but even I didn't expect Hutton to exonerate everyone in the Government for everything they did over the dossier and David Kelly and to blame the BBC for what they did at every stage. What do other people think? And who leaked it to the Sun?

[Starsky]

I don't agree that the govt weren't too blame. I don't see how you can say that having endless discussions about how to release his name without doing just that and then taking the decision to leak info about him and then answer any guesses is not being responsible for leaking his name.
I was against the war anyway and agree with Charles Kennedy who says that the real issue of why we went to war including what was in the dossier, how true it was and how it was presented wasn't addressed at all. I believe it should be.
I also wouldn't be surprised if it was the govt who leaked the report - they leak everything else don't they?

[OldieMum]

I agree, Starsky. And the whole row with the BBC looks like a diversion from the real issue, which was the use of faulty intelligence to justify going to war.

[Starsky]

Totally, and I just can't see how just because Lord Hutton has said the govt aren't to blame for Dr Kelly's death vindicates Tony Blair from the decision process and way information was used to persuade people and parliament to go to war. Tony Blair has said that people who questioned him should now apologise - eh??

[Trifle]

Cant believe the amount of time and money wasted on Kelly who was a weak lilly livered spinless individual who selfishly took his own life. The Goverment should spend our money on worthwhile issues rather than wasting it on this pathetic has-been.

[kiwisbird]

Three sides to every story, suicide may be the soft option, but it isn;t for his family and they deserve every respect in this.
Dr Kelly served the country adn the made what would seem to be a fatal judgement error.
How Mr Campbell got out of this defies belief, how long til he's bakc in cabinet meetings then?
Surely he only went to deflect attention from Blair.
Intelligence HA it came from the US, ummm anomaly what?

[kiwisbird]

PS Trifle
Feudian slip
Spinless
Fab!

[aloha]

I feel really depressed by the whole thing. The sight of Blair bumptiously jumping up and down makes me sick, almost as sick as Alistair Campbell. He clearly did 'influence' the dossier and 'change' it - the evidence was presented to Hutton. Also it was clear that intelligence sources were NOT happy with the way it was presented. Er, wasn't that what Gilligan's report said?

[morocco]

yet another diversion from the real issue - where have those weapons gone then? I get so angry when I see all the media attention given to the hutton report and hardly anything at all about why we went to war in the first place. I wasn't even totally anti-war at the time but surely if there are no weapons, hence no reason to go to war, then blair should resign? can't believe the head of bbc has to go over hutton report but blair gets to stay over a cockup that big.
bit harsh though trifle - it must be terrible to think that suicide is the only option you have left

[princesspeahead]

whitewash.

and how can hutton so confidently say that kelly killed himself when three reputable independent doctors have said (a) there wasn't anything like enough blood at the scene to suggest he bled to death (less than a pint compared to the 5 pints it takes) and (b) the co-proxamol in his blood was only slightly above a normal dose and many multiples below what it would take to overdose?

that statement alone makes the hutton report slightly dodgy in my view.

[eddm]

Well, I think No. 10 clearly chose someone they knew would be supportive of the establishment ? Hutton has a record of supporting those in power against criticism and was involved in the highly controversial Diplock courts in N Ireland where judges sat without juries. Even with that background, this report is amazing in its complete bias. His judgement on every tiny detail is to take the politician's word for it but to hang the BBC out to dry. He completely ignores the background ? Campbell's campaign to slur the BBC as having 'anti-war bias' for daring to report the views of those against the war as well as those in favour. And appears to think there's something improper in journalists daring to speak to this country's leading expert in weapons of mass destruction.

[bossykate]

utter whitewash - i hope the public aren't fooled.

[Twinkie]

i think this is all terriibly sad and don't believe for a moment that David Kelly killed himself (and sometimes people are pushed to that and it is not weak or lilly livered if you have been pushed far enough and are depressed trifle!!)

The very sight of Blair makes me sick, he obviously influenced the dossier and changed it, that was stated in the reports and by other officials and I am at a loss to see ow the BBC cann be at fault - surely it is in the publics interest for Blair to be uncovered as lying about this WOMD stuff and the BBC was just doing its job by reporting it - Kelly was in the wrong by speaking to the BBC but the buck can't then be passed to the BBC once he has been despatched(as I really believe he was).

I am just terribly sad to think that something like this - so much lying, covering up, passinng the buck and finally murder can happen and be purpetrated by the British Governement.

God do you think one of us will write what really happened on ere and then some spy from the government will come and bump us off - like the Pelican Brief???

[Jimjams]

Tony Bliar has made me feel sick for a long time. Now he makes me utterly nauseous.

He's a very interesting homeopathic case study though. Sorry roger irrelevant but he's come up a lot in study days (dangerous man- too much self belief).

I'm off to buy my Bliar t-shirt today.

Trouble is he belives so much that he is right in absolutely eveything he does that he's going to believe the report and not even realise that he's been let off the hook.

[twiglett]

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[alibubbles]

Blair has to go.

I think jimjams version is good - Bliar!!

Did any one ever think that the outcome would be any different, it is all a cover up.

If Hutton had come up with anything different he would have been put in the tower and then had his head chopped off

[Jimjams]

wish I could take credit for it alibubbles- t-shirts for sale in the back of private eye

[oliveoil]

Blair is a arse, cannot stand to look at his grinning gimp smarmy untrustworthy face any longer. Bring on Michael Howard.

[Carla]

Totally agree alibubbles. I for one never expected the outcome to be any different.

[StressyHead]

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[WideWebWitch]

I'm as outraged as everyone else here. I may well buy a T shirt too Jimjams. Did anyone read The Guardian on Saturday about the US government awarding billions of dollars of contracts to rebuild Iraq to US companies and then insuring it with tax dollars? All utterly, utterly despicable.

[suedonim]

I was staggered at the totally one-sided result because the evidence Blair and Campbell gave at the inquiry appeared to damn them out of their own mouths. Surely the govt will be the only ones who will have any faith in this report? (Ps I think Trifle's comments are a bit off, too.)

[Tinker]

Greg Dyke has just resigned now!

[Sari]

Sidetracking here but, if anyone knows anything about palmistry (I don't), apparently Tony Blair has a double Simian line (ie head and heart lines fused into single line on both hands). I believe this is very unusual and seen in mass murderers and religious fanatics!

[valleygirl]

you can sign a petition on this site:


owos.info/index.php

it is to demand that the gvmt hold a full INDEPENDENT judicial enquiry as to why they went to war.

i mean it says it all when even the US Chief Weapons Inspector has resigned and stated he believes there are and never were any WMD in Iraq.

The whole thing makes me sick.