'Number 10 link to paedophile ring'-Press association

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kweggie Wed 24-Oct-12 15:59:44

'There is "clear intelligence" suggesting a historic paedophile ring may be linked to Downing Street and a former prime minister, MPs have been told.

Labour MP Tom Watson alleged a member of a notorious group was connected to a former No 10 aide'

Am I the only one who thinks I may have been living my who;e life in a parallel (decent)universe.....
how much more sleaze is going to emerge......I'm shocked

seeker Fri 26-Oct-12 06:53:55

It's awful. But naming people on a thread like this then saying "I'm not for one moment suggesting......." is how rumours start.

WorriedBetty Fri 26-Oct-12 07:23:46

Ok, lets follow this logic. American-type political activity happening here:
1. Anti abortion tory wives
2. welfare cut to below poverty levels
3. Employers paying similar wages to welfare
4. Employment rights being eroded.
5. 'Give them something to fear' politics. You want something that cuts the nation to its core to make it introspective, paranoid and nervous so you can exploit them and they won't complain.

What troubles me is that the more distant men are from children and women, the more problematic behaviour that emotional distance will trigger. I think that the more everyone suspects everyone else of being a paedophile, the more fractured we will become as a society.

Our right wing press will relish all these outcomes,sadly and fan all the flames. I just wish our tabloid press would fan our society upwards, not downwards. Its sad, it really is.

Greythorne Fri 26-Oct-12 08:02:47

What seeker said.

Mrsarchie
I am sure you did not mean to be malicious but I have reported your thread as I think it is completely irresponsible.

cornybeefhashtag Fri 26-Oct-12 08:08:15

I'll report mine as well as I quoted her.

EdsRedeemingQualities Fri 26-Oct-12 08:16:46

Oh crikey...they had better delete mine as well then!

RebeccaMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 26-Oct-12 10:31:23

Hi all,

Many thanks for the reports.

We have removed those posts now, we know that the intent was not malicious.

Can we please ask you all to stray away from speculation about individuals involvement as we really don't want to have to delete another thread.

Many thanks

Tipsandshoots Fri 26-Oct-12 20:55:51

28 Febuary, 1973. The Times. ‘Heath fund aids tax men’s children’s treat.’ ‘A cheque from the Prime Minister was pushed under the door of Mr William Tyzack’s Tottenham terrace home yesterday as a donation from the Edward Heath Charitable Trust to the London Taxi-Drivers’ Fund for Underprivileged Children. [...] With its money the drivers’ fund will finance another outing to Southend for East End children. Mr Jimmy Savile, the disc jockey, will join about 300 children in a convoy of a hundred London taxis headed by Mr Tyzack, the fund’s secretary.’

21 November, 1979. The Guardian. ‘Spinal injuries centre wins cuts reprieve.’ ’The internationally renowned National Spinal Injuries Centre at Stoke Mandeville has been reprieved from further cuts under the Government’s public expenditure plans. The reduction of beds and services is to cease, Health Minister, Dr Gerard Vaughan, said yesterday [...] However the centre will need a private cash appeal – headed by disc jockey Jimmy Savile and backed by the Minister – to remain open.’

24 January, 1980. The Guardian. ‘Minister stands back as hospital cash floods in. By Melanie Phillips.’ ‘The Health Minister, Dr Gerard Vaughan, and entertainer Jimmy Savile yesterday launched a £10 million hospital appeal. The cash is needed to rebuild the National Spinal Injury Centre at Stoke Mandeville [...] The Government has said there is no public money available for the scheme and has welcomed Mr Savile’s appeal as an example of the “partnership” between Government and public that it is hoping to promote.’

21 October, 1981. The Times. ‘Reception.’ ’The Earl of Snowdon, Patron of PHAB (physically handicapped and able bodied) and Mr Jimmy Savile (president) were hosts at a reception and dinner held at the Mount Royal Hotel yesterday to launch the charity’s silver jubilee celebration for 1982. Among the guests were: Mr Hugh Rossi, Minister of state for Social Security and the Disabled [...].’

6 November, 1981. Hansard. Speech by Norman Fowler, Secretary of State for Social Services. ’One outstanding example of what can be achieved when the National Health Service, the community and voluntary interests are working together towards a shared goal is the national appeal which Jimmy Savile is mounting for the rebuilding of the spinal injuries unit at Stoke Mandeville hospital.’

6 May, 1982. Excerpt from the diary of Auberon Waugh, quoted in The War Diaries, eds. Alan Taylor and Irene Taylor, 2005. ’Mrs Thatcher should use this [i.e. the Falklands War] as a golden opportunity to blow up the huge grain silos in Northern Argentina, containing all the wheat intended for Russia. In fact, I was urging her to do this long before the Argentinians invaded. But nowadays she listens only to Ferdinand Mount and Jimmy Savile. I might as well babble of green fields.’

2 January, 1983. The Observer. ‘How Britannia Runs the Shop: The Thatcher Phenomenon. By Simon Hoggart.’ ’In the evening there might be a reception at Downing Street. Whisked between official residences in official cars, Prime Ministers soon become sealed off from the real world and begin to place exaggerated store by their meetings with ordinary people, whether across a factory bench or a gin-and-tonic. But nobody, introduced to the Prime Minister, is going to start by attacking her. Reality soon begins to disappear [...] Which is more real, which (if any) tells you more about the British people: a girl in a chocolate factory, mumbling politely into the fondants; Jimmy Savile, paying one of his frequent visits to Downing Street [...] or a crowd of yelling demonstrators? ‘You see, they all go mad, they all start hearing voices,’ says an MP who has studied several Prime Ministers.”

2 January, 1989. The Guardian. ‘Savile helps 60 Broadmoor patients to move out.’ ’Sixty patients at Broadmoor are to be transferred to less secure hospitals under a scheme developed by television presenter Jimmy Savile. A new management team was established at Broadmoor last year by the then junior health minister, Mrs Edwina Currie. Mr Savile, a voluntary helper at the hospital for 20 years, was recruited to the team’s task force. A spokeswoman for the Department of Health said: “It is fair to say Jimmy Savile can take a lot of credit for this. Broadmoor has existed for 125 years and a lot of the procedures there are outdated.”‘

28 March, 2004. The Sunday Times. ‘Tony’s secret is to be the perfect chump.’ ’[...] Alan McGee, the man who discovered Oasis, described to me a toe-curling dinner at Chequers. McGee was keen to talk class war but found himself next to Sir Jimmy Savile and Dame Judie Dench.’

McGee’s own recollection of this event, quoted in T. C. W. Blanning, The Triumph of Music, 2010. ‘When we drove up to the house, there were SWAT teams everywhere: guys crawling around on the grass, with guns. He [Blair] answered the door wearing jeans, with a pint in his hand. We went in, and that was when it got totally fucking psychedelic. Judi Dench was there, a guy from Psion computers, that author, John O’Farrell… and Jimmy Savile. I introduced him to Kate [McGee's wife], and he started kind of sucking her fingers. It was all totally weird.’

Tipsandshoots Fri 26-Oct-12 20:59:24

Thats how he met rich and famous but how did he get there. I wonder who the 60 people were and where they went and how old they were?

Tipsandshoots Fri 26-Oct-12 21:01:02

The 60 who left who left broadmoor that is.

AnyaKnowIt Fri 26-Oct-12 21:26:52

shock

Darkesteyes Fri 26-Oct-12 21:50:38

shock

Darkesteyes Fri 26-Oct-12 21:53:13

Bloody hell Tips. Those headlines.

Christ.

<been on MN for 14 months and have only just figured out how to work the emoticons> blush

AnyaKnowIt Fri 26-Oct-12 22:01:14

I'm still speechless over it

edam Fri 26-Oct-12 22:06:17

Wow, where did you dig those cuts from, Tips?

AnyaKnowIt Fri 26-Oct-12 22:25:01

After taking over as Broadmoor’s task force chief, Savile organised for 60 patients to be released to less secure facilities or other NHS hospitals, claiming they had been cured.

Taken from here

Tipsandshoots Fri 26-Oct-12 22:45:43

Sorry for the delay I pottered off.
http://cabinetroom.wordpress.com/2012/10/26/jimmy-savile-the-british-government-the-power-of-plausible-implausibility/

Tipsandshoots Fri 26-Oct-12 22:47:00
Tipsandshoots Fri 26-Oct-12 22:53:59

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223400/Jimmy-Savile-scandal-Investigators-look-BBC-accomplices-flagship-show.html

Bloody hell I bet someone in France is getting a bit worried

Tipsandshoots Fri 26-Oct-12 22:54:40
Darkesteyes Fri 26-Oct-12 23:04:25

I"ll bet he is Tips.

NigellasGhost Fri 26-Oct-12 23:05:51

those taxis used to drive past our house in the summer every year, tooting and waving. We used to all go out and wave to the children who looked so happy.

Tipsandshoots Fri 26-Oct-12 23:28:59

Yep I was only thinking about the taxis last month. I always wished I could join in. They always lOoked so exciting

AnyaKnowIt Fri 26-Oct-12 23:31:20
JennyPiccolo Fri 26-Oct-12 23:36:27

Lots of people must've known about this. They should be locked up.

Darkesteyes Sat 27-Oct-12 01:35:26

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