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Tessa Jowell splits with husband, believe it?

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SecondhandRose · 04/03/2006 23:15

The cynic in me says as they've been married 27 years she's trying to save her job and they think it's the only way to do it.

Anyone persuade me otherwise?

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mrspink27 · 04/03/2006 23:23

No youre not the only one! my dh and I had a long discussion about this... and we totally agree....

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ShouldKnowByFriday · 05/03/2006 01:01

agree!!

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SecondhandRose · 05/03/2006 08:49

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dinny · 05/03/2006 08:51

Trying to save her job. How sad.

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Twinkie1 · 05/03/2006 09:08

He said yesterday they are still working at trying to reconcile their marriage!! - they will be abck together when this is all blown over if he not banged up in Milan that is!!!

And even if she goes then Tony will have her back in another role soon enough just like he did with his other filandering crooked friends!!

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carla · 05/03/2006 09:12

H and I don't believe a bit of it. Especially as on the news last night his solicitor said it was just a 'temporary' thing. But then I also can't believe they would think a nation so gullible ......

The whole thing beggars belief.

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fairyjay · 05/03/2006 09:13

Very convenient separation imo.

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ruty · 05/03/2006 10:10

i don't believe it. I also don't believe she didn't think about where the 350 000 quid was coming from.

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WideWebWitch · 05/03/2006 10:15

I don't think she can get away with 'I didn't know' - we are supposed on the one hand to believe she's this pathetic but on the other to trust her with £ms of public funds? Hmm.

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Caligula · 05/03/2006 11:03

I think it's very cynical to think she'd dump her marriage for her career. I know we tend to think that politicians are a different species from us and don't have the same feelings and decency, but I very much doubt that they'd make an unholy agreement to separate for the sake of appearances. Even politicians have some shreds of decency left, even those in government. Well, some of them anyway.

It's difficult to believe that someone intelligent and successful can have an area of their life where they have no control or can be so totally deceived, but it does happen. It's possible that they've done a deal to pretend to split for the sake of appearances, or that she's just dumped him in a cold-hearted, calculating manner to save her career. But imo the most likely reason they've split up is because he was hiding stuff from her and the level of his deception has come like a bolt from the blue and put their relationship under a strain it can't sustain at the moment. Men hiding stuff from their wives happens all the time - I'm sure there'll be another thread along on the subject soon.

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harpsichordcarrier · 05/03/2006 11:13

good lord
I must say I think this thread is very distasteful indeed.
these are real people with real feelings, ot just some caricatures made up for our amusement. to make these kind of accusations based on - what exactly? that she's a politician? - betrays a deeply cynical and inhumane view of life.

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Piffle · 05/03/2006 11:17

She once famously said she would throw herself under a bus for Tony Blair so yep

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pashmina · 05/03/2006 11:28

I think she just lost her trust in him...marriages fail for much less

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ruty · 05/03/2006 13:02

i don't think i have an inhumane view of life just because i don't trust certain politicians!

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rey · 05/03/2006 13:25

totally agree ruty
totally agree secondhandrose, twinkie1, and my thoughts exactly WWW.

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rey · 05/03/2006 13:28

As DH said to me, if he (my DH) came to me with papers to sign for paying off our joint mortgage he would have to have a very good explanation of how he had managed to find all that money and would without needing to be asked, produce the evidence of where the money came from.
And I trust him fully but I was not born yesterday either so would not just sign papers without even casually asking questions!

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Blackduck · 05/03/2006 13:35

Have to admit when dp told me this yestrday I raised my eyebrows and said 'how convenient'.....www - spot on - we are not talking about £50 here.......

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Cassoulet · 05/03/2006 14:20

Time was when an MP's actions were not transparently honest they would resign as they had lost the trust of their constituents. OK this was a long time ago - how times change. The trouble is that there seems to be very little difference in what is seen as appropriate and inappropriate behaviour, and after all we are stupid enough to believe anything. We can vote against them, but from their point of view by the time the election comes we've forgotten. I'm thinking of setting up a web-site of the life of a parliament, giving the basic headlines and letting people 'vote' on whether each is good or bad so that when the next election comes you can just refer to it and decide from the history who you want to vote for!

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MaggieT · 05/03/2006 14:26

I don't understand why she thinks that splitting with her husband is going to help her. All the previous actions which she is being criticised for are still there.

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UCM · 05/03/2006 16:38

This woman did sign several huge mortgage agreements. I would be very worried if someone who has such power didn't know what they were signing. If she is so niaive that she didn't know what she was signing for (yeah right), she should not be in the job she is in. If she has left her marraige for the sake of her career, she is barking and it worries me that a woman, once again in a powerful position, would give up a 27 year marraige to stay in Whitehall. Their marraige must have been awful, that is the only explanation. I wouldn't leave my DH over my job. Not ever.

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carla · 05/03/2006 16:43

Caligula, the BBC's correspondant said on the news last night that as a minister you either have to . Sorry, awful lot of wrongs there, but you get the gist of what I was trying to say he said.

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DominiConnor · 05/03/2006 16:45

As Tom Clancy puts it "you can only be betrayed by someone you trust, everything else is just business".

My perspecitive is a little different. When I set up my company, money went out of the door quite quickly, and in particular to a young woman I'd hired at 12 K per month after chatting to her in a ocffee shop. Looked just like the "real-life" stories you get in trashy womens magazines about a dodgy husband who ran off with the wife's money.
But I told my wife about it all of course, and actually I was more stressed about it than she was.
So I ended up telling her more about the company's transactions than I think she really cared about.
As it happens we've both been in employment where it would have been seriously illegal for us to tell the other about some aspects of our work, so couples do have secrets in their work, quite legitimately.
Nowadays, I don't bug her with individual transactions, but that's not the same as "secret".

As a smart City lawyer, my wife is in a rather different league to a Blair Babe, but the fact of the matter is that if I wanted to hide a big cash flow I could, even though she knows enough ways to execute dodgy transactions to fill a whole Sunday newspaper.

I'm not dodgy, but the nature of my business like many others has lumpy and somewhat random cashflows. One bank had failed to pay a big invoice with the excuse "oh, is that an invoice ?", then sent us a pile of money.

Given that Mrs. Jowell is neither smart, nor has any experience of business, with all due modesty I would have no difficulty whatsoever pulling the wool over her eyes, and to be fair as a minister she could do any number of things I would never detect.

By far the easiest way would have simply been to tell her nothing. Ministers are under a lot of time pressure, and unless they were worried, one of either sex would only be too happy if the bureaucratic crap of life like tax returns was taken care of by a trusted person.

Although a Blair babe, she's a bit "old labour",to whom almost any money making activity is dodgy.
Also her husband would know that anything to do with Italian politics smells bad, even on the rate occasaions times it is legit.
Thus he may genuinely have been trying to protect her and/or trying to avoid rows at home. I'm pretty confident that my wife wouldn't object to the rather dull activities of my company, but our first major row was over different perspectives of of how do deal with a defective co-worker.

To get her to sign documents, he'd have to have lied to her, or perhaps worse deceived her by using jargon she wouldn't quite understand. Although dumber than the things that live under my fridge Mrs. Jowell is an important person who reckons she has "common sense", ie no real understanding of anything, so confusing her would feel more of a betrayal than lying or withholding the truth.
When the truth became clear, she'd have ejected the shit she married without any hesitation, wouldn't you ?

Thus the flaw in Mrs. Jowell is that of poor character judgement, which is supposed to be something she is professionally good at.
However, I don't think there's anyone round here who can claim we've never been over-generous in our assessment of the quality of the person we love.
Of course, we don't know what she wasn't in on it.
But I doubt it.
It's just too nakedly corrupt, and given the nature of the people involved, even a BB would have spotted it.

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carla · 05/03/2006 16:56

Do you work for the government, DC?

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Flossam · 05/03/2006 17:16

I don't think this does have much to do with emotion. I reckon her husband will be filmed coming out of her hotel room or something equally as condemming in the very near future.

I refuse to believe that any half educated woman today is going to sit back and agree to 'remortgaging our house for more than it is actually worth, just for a little bit of business, you see dear, nothing for you to worry about, just sign the papers and we'll have the money back again in double quick time!' Oh Ok then! Why not!

Rubbish. I don't believe she is sacrificing her marriage for her career. I do believe that they have an agreement, because they have both messed up royally. I think that when the air has calmed they will be back together. They are still together, just both trying to save their arses.

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