MumsnetGuestPosts (MNHQ) Mon 20-Jun-16 13:23:22

EU referendum guest post: Priti Patel – "We are better off out"

Staying in the EU is far from being the safe option its supporters claim, says Priti Patel MP. Read Helen Pankhurst’s opposing view here.

Priti Patel

MP for Witham

Posted on: Mon 20-Jun-16 13:23:22

(106 comments )

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"This referendum is a fantastic opportunity to achieve our full potential by taking back control."

We all share a responsibility to keep hate and violence out of our democracy - and whichever side you end up on in debates, arguably the most important thing is to turn up and vote. Following the tragedy of Jo Cox’s death last week, this is even more pertinent.

It is my belief that the UK's best days lie ahead of us. The facts are on our side. We have a stunning future ahead of us if we have the self-belief to vote Leave on June 23. That means believing the UK’s future is truly bright, that the prospects for our children and grandchildren outside the EU have never been better. As a mother, I want my children to have every opportunity to travel, to enjoy rewarding careers, to take part in the next stage in the growth of what can become the most successful country anywhere - creative, fair, and open to everything the world has to offer.

This referendum is finally allowing the people of Britain to decide who is in charge of their country. It is a fantastic opportunity to achieve our full potential by taking back control of our democracy and our laws. By leaving, we will be able to call time on the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels whose main interest is taking over power for themselves.

For years, governments of all parties have given those powers up time and again without the people ever being given a say. It has now got to the point where six in every 10 of our laws are written by the EU.

Those rules are doing huge damage to Britain and British jobs, imposing £600m a week of costs. Entrepreneurs and small businesses bear the brunt. They could be sprinting forward, creating even more new opportunities for our young people if Brussels was not holding them back.

If we vote to leave the EU and take back control, it will be up to us to design the laws and the free trade agreements with the rest of the world that will be what our economy needs, not 27 other very different countries.


If we vote to leave the EU and take back control, it will be up to us to design the laws and the free trade agreements with the rest of the world that will be what our economy needs, not 27 other very different countries.

Leaving is the optimistic move for our young people. The level of immigration into Britain is making it harder for them to afford a home, for local authorities to find enough places for the growing school population, and cheap labour is forcing wages down. My family moved to Britain to escape persecution in Idi Amin’s Uganda and I’ll always be someone who thinks we should be a welcoming country to those in need. But because we are legally required to keep our borders open to all EU migration, there is little we can do to reduce the pressure from people who do not urgently need to move here. We will always want skilled people such as doctors and talented entrepreneurs to come to Britain, so we should move to an Australian points system that lets us decide who is allowed to come here. That is only possible outside the EU.

I also want to leave because we can make much better use of the £10 billion net that Brussels takes from Britain every year. The Leave campaign has proposed putting £100 million extra into the NHS every week. We could afford things like the new anti-breast cancer and anti-HIV drugs that are currently so hard for the cash-strapped NHS to afford. These will be decisions for parliament, but another way we can use the money would be to abolish VAT on pensioners’ gas and electricity bills. The EU and its judges, who are the ultimate arbiters of our tax system for now, forbid us from cutting this tax, which hits those on low incomes the hardest.

If we don't leave, we risk being sucked into the disaster of the Eurozone, being told to cough up either to rescue the countries left destitute by the currency’s survival or sweep up the mess if it collapses.

The crisis has left millions of Greeks, Spaniards, Portuguese and Italians unemployed. It is worst for the young - more than half of them are jobless in Greece. This crisis has accurately been described as “the economic crime of modern times”.

Staying is far from being the safe option its supporters claim. My great concern is that a Remain vote will mean Europe thinking we are fully signed up to whatever they dream up next.

We are better off out. The fastest growing economies are all outside the EU and building strong ties with them is the surest way of my children being able to get good jobs in the years to come. I’m voting for them next Thursday and I’m voting to Leave. I hope you’ll do the same.

By Priti Patel

Twitter: @patel4witham

Millyonthefloss2 Mon 20-Jun-16 14:20:53

Very good post from Priti Patel.

Millyonthefloss2 Mon 20-Jun-16 14:26:01

As a small business owner I agree with everything that Priti says here and what I particularly like is that her view is so forward looking and positive.

PortiaCastis Mon 20-Jun-16 14:37:12

Good post Priti

RortyCrankle Mon 20-Jun-16 14:57:01

Excellent post from Priti Patel, totally agree with your comments.

Many thanks

rumblingDMexploitingbstds Mon 20-Jun-16 15:45:54

Very well put post. Thank you.

GlassOfPort Mon 20-Jun-16 16:23:51

I disagree on some points of fact

- The EU is ruled by a parliament that is democratically elected

- 95% of EU laws affecting the UK were passed with the support of British MEPs (there is an impartial analysis here )

- I don't see how Europe could see that the UK is fully signed up to anything, given that any developments requiring a treaty change will trigger a referendum

More broadly, I too am a mother who hopes her child will grow up in an open and tolerant country. I have personally benefited from freedom of movement and my workplace is thriving because of it.

I genuinely believe that in giving us the opportunity to work, study and retire abroad the EU has been a great force for good.

OrangesandLemonsNow Mon 20-Jun-16 16:33:51

Good post

Jelliedeels Mon 20-Jun-16 16:52:28

Glass -
*- The EU is ruled by a parliament that is democratically elected*

UK gets less than 35% of the vote. The rest is other countries.

IamSlavetotheEU Mon 20-Jun-16 16:53:33

Thank you Priti great post!

IamSlavetotheEU Mon 20-Jun-16 16:55:46

More broadly, I too am a mother who hopes her child will grow up in an open and tolerant country

Hopefully when we get out of the EU and we can at last get a handle on the madness that is the EU migration, we can calm the whole country down and all this angst about immigration will finally be over, and we can start to concentrate on other things, however still within an open and tolerate country which is what we are known for - sadly until the 2000s'.

GlassOfPort Mon 20-Jun-16 16:59:09

UK gets less than 35% of the vote. The rest is other countries

I am not denying that, but the idea is that the interest of different countries will converge in many areas.

For instance British Labour and French socialist MEPs are likely to have similar views on laws affecting worker rights (an area where EU legislation has had a very positive impact).

GlassOfPort Mon 20-Jun-16 17:06:51

IamSlave, there is no guarantee that leaving the EU will allow the government to control immigration.

The government has full control of the laws regulating non-EU immigration and still hasn't managed to bring the numbers down. That suggests to me that controlling immigrant numbers is not so simple, if you do not want to damage the business and services that need to recruit skilled workers they can't find here.

Besides if we join the EEA post-Brexit, we will still have to allow free movement of people.

AnnaForbes Mon 20-Jun-16 18:20:47

I am a mother hoping desperately for Brexit. This is 100% down to my belief that the future is brighter for my children outside the EU. The best legacy we can leave them is the opportunity to elect and unelect those in charge.

Ifyoubuildit Mon 20-Jun-16 18:23:17

Firstly, I'm offended you'd bring Jo Cox, an proactive Remain supporter, into this.

Secondly the facts are not on your side (unless you ignore the many hundreds of prominent figures in the worlds of economics, academia, business, the arts and sport, to name but a few).

Thirdly, you're admitting that the price of my house is likely to decline. Not very motivating and an indication that leaving might not be so good for the economy after all...

Fourthly, your campaign is covertly xenophobic, racist and lead by individuals who are clearly about political ambition and ego. To imply you're campaigning in my children's name is an insult to my intellect.

And lastly from me, my children will need to support an ageing population. Without extra help from, yes, immigrants they will be stuffed. Voting out for their future is, by pretty much all accounts, nonsensical and slightly insane.

Mrsraypurchase Mon 20-Jun-16 18:49:32

Absobloodylutely Priti. Well said.

Rattitude Mon 20-Jun-16 18:53:31

I am really uncomfortable with these Guest Posts on Mumsnet.

I appreciate that there is another one which is pro-Remain, but Mumsnet seems to have become (somewhat unknowingly) a mouthpiece for the Brexit campaign.

There seems to be a lot of NEW posters, probably employed by the Brexit campaign, who start threads, but also deliberately reinforce the Brexit messages on threads, including this one.

Any ordinary Mumsnetter who has come on this forum with genuine questions has not been provided with the measured answers they could have expected from the usual pool of posters, but instead threads have been hijacked by professional pro-Brexit posters.

I find this deplorable.

For anybody who is interested in getting some more valid answers rather than pure slogans from Brexit (or even Remain) campaigners, I recommend this video from Michael Dougan, a professor of European Law at Liverpool University, where he addresses issues of sovereignty, constitution and trade post-Brexit. It is factual and informative.

AnnaForbes Mon 20-Jun-16 18:53:40

Firstly, I'm offended you'd bring Jo Cox, an proactive Remain supporter, into this. Remain have done nothing but exploit this, far more so than the Leave campaign.

Plenty of prominent figures on both sides. Let me know if you would like a list.

you're admitting that the price of my house is likely to decline. If our children are ever to get on the housing ladder, prices must fall. This is a good thing. One might even suggest it is selfish to want house prices to continue rising.

your campaign is covertly xenophobic, racist Oh please, this has been discussed time and time again. It is not racist to have concerns over the sheer numbers of people coming here. It is realistic and pragmatic.

and lead by individuals who are clearly about political ambition and ego. Not like Cameron, Osborne, Brown, Blair or Mandelson then? hmm

With regards to your last point, yes we need immigration. Has anyone suggested we close our doors to the entire world? No, thought not. We need to control and adjust immigration to suit our needs.

Voting Remain is insane and very short-sighted.

Littlemisslovesspiders Mon 20-Jun-16 18:54:13

Voting out for their future is, by pretty much all accounts, nonsensical and slightly insane.

Sorry but you are calling those that may be voting leave 'slightly insane'.

How nice.

So much for nicer debates

Roonerspism Mon 20-Jun-16 18:54:58

Excellent and succinct summary - thanks.

Why on earth is the answer to the aging population quandary to bring ever more people here who will also soon age? This baffles me

Rattitude Mon 20-Jun-16 18:59:38

I am amazed that a few posters have said how 'excellent' Priti Patel's post is. It is all vagueness and lies at its best. (see my earlier post mentioning profsessional Brexit campaigners invading this forum though, as a possible explanation).

How can the Leave campaign promise an extra £100M per week on the NHS when a) they are not in power; b) economic constraints are likely to make this completely unrealistic for any government in power. I find it shocking that emotive promises relating to specific drugs targeting breast cancer or HIV are used here. Is the message adapted for male forums to mention some prostate medication, I wonder.

Re. her statement 'The fastest economies are all outside the EU'. Of course, they are because they are typically DEVELOPING countries with poor workers' rights, low salaries and low standards of living, so they are competitive and their economies will grow. However, I am glad to have enjoyed the standard of living I have had whilst growing up in Western Europe, even if it means that the EU cannot grow as competitively as other developing nations.

It would also be good if the source of any quotes were made clear in case readers assume that these come from established institutions rather than parties who are not impartial. 'The economic crime of modern times' comes from Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, the International Business Editor of the Daily Telegraph. He may have some credentials but he works for a paper that is definitely not neutral.

“it will be up to us to design the laws and the free trade agreements with the rest of the world” Euh… no! It will not be up to the UK to design these. These will need to be negotiated and will need to be approved by the other parties too.

“that will be what our economy needs, not 27 other very different countries”. “very different countries”… So, Priti Patel, have you travelled at all in the European Union or in the rest of the world because the UK has a lot more in common with the other European Union countries than the rest of the world: from a shared history and culture, a history of exchanges and trade deals. Does the UK feel zero kinship to countries such as Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and Sweden then?

There will be countries such as the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand that the UK relates to well, but the rest of the world will be a different ballgame altogether when trade deals need to be negotiated, because if you think Poland is a very different country, there will be a massive culture shock when dealing with Africa, South America, the Middle East and Asia.

The emphasis on non-existent differences within the European Union is divisive and pathetic.

“I want my children to have every opportunity to travel, to enjoy rewarding careers…” So, why are you choosing to curtail their options with a possible Brexit and making travel more difficult within the European Union, their nearest neighbours (not everybody can afford to travel long-haul, you know…) and stopping them from taking on employment in the rest of the EU. An employment stint in other European Union countries has long been advantageous to the careers of professionals as are similar stints in the rest of the world. However, the opportunities are plentiful in the European Union but will be more limited post-Brexit, if they become restricted in the EU.

I realise that the unbounded optimism of the Brexit campaign is charming and appealing to the masses, who feel perhaps disenfranchised. However, it is not substantiated by any real facts: it is a collection of empty promises, which for the majority will not be delivered. Then what?

If the Remain campaign is Project Fear, then the Leave campaign is Project Unicorn.

AnnaForbes Mon 20-Jun-16 19:02:38

Maybe you could point to those posters who are probably employed by the Brexit campaign Rattitude. I hope you don't mean me. I was one of the first people on MN 16 years ago. The Referendum wasn't even a twinkle in my eye then. Maybe, just maybe, they are long-term posters who change their name.

Regarding your "expert", he is partisan not impartial. Here is a link to Toby Young's excellent video explaining how undemocratic the EU has become.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gILTIDr4Ra8

I am really uncomfortable with these Guest Posts on Mumsnet. You do not have to click on them.

Littlemisslovesspiders Mon 20-Jun-16 19:11:10

but instead threads have been hijacked by professional pro-Brexit posters.

Have you got proof or is that your way of discrediting posters.

Quite disingenuous

lljkk Mon 20-Jun-16 19:13:19

Maybe PP just meant "please vote" but I am offended that PP brought Jo Cox into this essay. Everyone else agreed to suspend politics around the meaning of her death. Keep things that way.

Dollius01 Mon 20-Jun-16 19:14:30

Oh god, Toby Young. Well that seals it for me. Never mind all the world leaders and economists that have warned this is a crazy idea, we have Toby Young. Thank god for that...

FFS

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