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Anxiety just not going away... Please help

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CharlieBoo Tue 24-Sep-13 13:30:48

Ive been suffering from a relapse in anxiety for the last 2 and a bit weeks. I've never had anxiety like this before. It is really hard to even function at the moment.

I'm on citalopram 20mg, started for a few days on 10mg 2 weeks ago and have built up to 20mg. This has been 2 weeks also with the citalopram and its not getting any better. Do y think the dose isn't right or it not the right drug?

It's also giving me awful insomnia so I'm living with this anxiety 20 hours a day and its crippling, I just want to be back to my old self. I have a review with my dr on Thursday which can't come soon enough. I've been doing the linden method which I thought was good and was helping but it's not.

Please any tips for anxiety, I'm getting desperate.

dingdangdong Tue 29-Oct-13 09:21:50

Hi discussion

For what it is worth, read up about trauma (intrusive thoughts would fit that); we have found EMDR - eye movement desensitisation reprocessing in the hands of a good psychologist to be profound in rewiring responses. It is in NICE guidelines too - it works even if you do't know the original triggers. Anxiety is a symptom not the cause.

Helpyourself Fri 11-Oct-13 08:32:05

How's it going Charlie?

bacon Mon 07-Oct-13 11:25:13

I found ADs made my anxiety worse and you may need to find a different drug that suits you or a even a treatment.

Helpyourself Mon 07-Oct-13 08:23:55

Hi Charlie! How are you?

Helpyourself Thu 03-Oct-13 14:22:01

Really good. I spoke to my manager about taking half term off as I was stressing out about working and leaving the DCs home alone- they had a very feral summer. She was very helpful and we also had a reassuring chat about parenting- at her instigation! It was bolstering as she always seems so confident and sensible but she has exactly the same anxieties as me. That thing about insides and outsides matching and us judging ourselves harshly!

CharlieBoo Thu 03-Oct-13 09:54:57

Hi Helpyourself. Anxiety still there but at the moment am trying a new thing where I let the images come into my head, let my imagination run wild and surprisingly in that controlled environment I'm fine....it's when they pop up in the middle of an conversation with a school mum that throws me! Dd is off today as she was up for hours in the night with a really high temp and night terrors, so hardly had any sleep, but lovely to have my little girl home to hang out with. How's you? Xxx

Helpyourself Thu 03-Oct-13 06:38:38

Morning Charlie-how's it going?

peachypips Tue 01-Oct-13 21:31:44

Mirtazapine is another antidepressant that acts differently and is normally used to augment a normal SSRI antidepressant. It gives you wonderful sleep and slams anxiety when coupled with an SSRI. Very effective.

Helpyourself Tue 01-Oct-13 21:08:53

grin all that rushing about with passes and drop offs was for the 3 teenagers.
Sounds like relevant and useful advice about mitrazapine, Charlie

CharlieBoo Tue 01-Oct-13 20:54:54

Yes I have got sleeping pills, only took one last night so will take 2 tonight. What is mitrazapine? I begged mt dr or something else to help with the anxiety but she would only give me sleeping tablets. X

peachypips Tue 01-Oct-13 19:19:55

I second the Mirtazapine- I felt almost instantly a lot better!

susanalbumparty Tue 01-Oct-13 15:16:28

Hi Charlieboo - I am going through something similar at the moment. I am also citalopram but my GP dd offer mirtazapine which she said was better for helping with sleep. I dont know if this is an option you might want to discuss with your GP? Insomnia just makes everything worse doesn't it and I am sorry you are going through the mill with it. Did your GP offer sleeping tablets?

CharlieBoo Tue 01-Oct-13 13:18:17

Wow you have a big family! How lovely! I can only imagine the stress teenagers bring! I have all that to come. Am pleased you're anxiety free, if a little envious! After a great start this morning I we t on a walk and felt panicky again. My images have died off but I'm so terrified of them coming back its fuelling my anxiety. Still lovely wwII recipe to make with the kids after school. Egg free sponge cake! Hopefully ill feel a bit better, it passes it always does. Xxx

Helpyourself Tue 01-Oct-13 13:04:43

Very! 3 teenagers off- two very short school runs and one journey back to deliver a forgotten pass. Into work via another lost pass hmm and now I'm at work doing some quite close writing.
I'd say I was pretty much anxiety free nowadays, but I had a real panic when DD,17 didn't text to say she was in school (she's a bit upset at the moment- friend stuff). I sat on the thoughts for a while, ran through the likely scenarios- lost or confiscated phone, delayed train, switched off etc. In the end I 'phoned school and asked them to confirm she'd signed in. It was unnecessary perhaps, but I chose to just fix the problem rather than stew on it. Just as well as she didn't switch her phone on and see my messages til just now.
So... do accept all the help you can. I probably rushed through the CBT as I was embarrassed that I was getting help because of my drinking, but you have nothing to be ashamed of.

CharlieBoo Tue 01-Oct-13 10:01:55

Even if I got into bed I couldn't sleep. I think the citalopram may be keeping my brain too active and its hard to switch it off. I've never taken tablets like this before so it was a bit scary taking them. Turns out they did absolutely nothing so nothing to be scared of! Haha. Busy planning a wartime recipe for ds to cook with his friend tonight for a school project! Just need whole meal flour. Are u keeping busy today? X

Helpyourself Tue 01-Oct-13 08:14:29

Sorry you didn't sleep well sad
Keep going today- resist the urge to crawl back into bed like I used to and you'll be set for tonight.
Why are you afraid of taking the tablets btw?

CharlieBoo Tue 01-Oct-13 07:48:57

Yes funny isn't it I wake feeling like that every day but as soon as I get up and get going it passes. The sleeping tablet didn't work so I will have to take 2 tonight. It said take 1-2 on the box but I just took one to start with but obviously not strong enough. Have a good day x

Helpyourself Mon 30-Sep-13 21:24:31

I have- I woke up a bit anxious and overwhelmed but it passed as soon as I got going. Don't be nervous about taking the sleeping tablets; I bet she's only given you a few day's worth, hasn't she? Good news about the CBT.
Sleep well.

CharlieBoo Mon 30-Sep-13 20:56:05

Hi, have not had a good couple of days. Was awake from 1 am last night trembling in sheer panic! Went back to the drs this morning as for 3 weeks I've not slept properly and I'm exhausted. She's given me some mild sleeping tablets and pushing through my cbt as urgent. Bit nervous about taking the tablet but I need sleep. Told her all about my intrusive images and she says its all anxiety and I'm not going mad and will get better soon. Looking forward to the cbt and hoping it can break down my negative thinking. Thanks for popping back in to check on me. How are you? Hope you've had a good day xx

Helpyourself Mon 30-Sep-13 19:46:47

How are you today charlie?

CharlieBoo Sun 29-Sep-13 10:05:46

Thank you working9while5. That makes me feel better...it is just imagery but the fact it's there scares me. I know that I need to ignore it but its hard.

Thanks for sharing your story though and I'm very sorry to hear about your sister in laws baby. How awful. Good luck with your pregnancy. X

working9while5 Sun 29-Sep-13 09:08:49

Hi Charlie.

I have imagery. Mine have always been fantastically gruesome. I've learned though that I am a very visual person and I play out scenarios of all sorts endlessly in my head. Have you ever tried paying attention to the non-scary imagery in your head? It's probable you have mini-soap operas and chick flicks in there too, but these won't draw your attention nor will you imagine they say all sorts of things about you.

I can still see my horror movies. My sister in law recently lost a baby at 20+ weeks and I am pregnant. I visualized every step of her induction, every sad contraction, the silence on his birth, meeting him, sobbing when he was taken away, the heavy emptiness of going home. I could see it all. Happening to her, happening to me. I did this endlessly through my last pregnancy often with vastly gorier and bloodier images. Yet this time my emotional reactivity to it is entirely different. I can see it in all its horror without the desperate endless scramble to push it away, the cold sick creeping horror. It comes into my mind and it goes again. I don't have to work to push it out or even grit my teeth til it goes. It is like a background jingle, the radio in the hairdressers or muzak in an elevator. I know it is there but I don't need to do anything with it.

It is, in the end of the day, just your imagination. I know when you're in it it seems so overwhelmingly powerful that seems almost a flippant statement... but it is. Just an overactive imagination.

CharlieBoo Sat 28-Sep-13 18:43:44

It's so important to have the support of a loving family. We are both blessed there then. Xxxxx

Helpyourself Sat 28-Sep-13 18:41:00

Grr. Parents and dh stood by me! grin

Helpyourself Sat 28-Sep-13 18:39:46

I consider myself very lucky! I'd rather be where I am now having hit rock bottom and come back than the for years low level but still paralysing anxiety. And like you my parents and dh sells by me. That did wonders for my self esteem.

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